TMs at the Game Corner should be allowed IF a Pokémon can't win without them. You could easily categorize it differently, like with the Struggle list. Also, if a Pokémon can't beat the Rival because their starter consistently blocks them, they should be allowed to retry with a more favorable starter MU. The goal is to win on minimum battles. The battle count doesn't change based on the rival's starter. Again, you could categorize them differently, too.

Game Corner TMs should be "broken" category TMs, both because they are, and also given the effort involved in getting them "naturally" (accumulating and selling berries, or working the game corner games properly). So big point loss for using them, but they should be allowed.

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The Stick raises Farfetch'd's critical hit rate. Speaking of which, Farfetch'd's name got glitched.

Bayleef Tackle (Brushes it off, knocks you out) +6 with Curse + Swift 😲 Dead 🤣🤣🤣

Using the game corner rewards is probably only on the same level as using a tm, although admittedly really good ones. If you're able to use a tm, you should be able to use the game corner.

As for game corner TMs, I say allow them, since the challenge is minimum battles, and while it would be tedious, you could theoretically farm coins just by gambling and resetting if you lose too much, all without any additional battles (Full disclosure, this is also my justification for cheating coins in my nuzlocke runs). However if you feel like it goes against the spirit of the challenge, the coin case is locked behind a technically-required battle, but that battle isn't really required until you have to do the basement section of the Rocket plotline, so I could see not allowing it until that point, but to me it feels more arbitrary not to allow them entirely.

I agree that Game Corner TMs (Thunder, Blizzard and Fire Blast) should be allowed for this series, but only if a Pokemon can't reasonably progress without learning them On the other hand, Goldenrod Department Store TMs should be fair game - the three elemental punches, Headbut and Rock Smash are good, but not broken. Return _might_ count as a broken TM, but should still be allowed

Looking at Dewgong's stats, it was destined for an easier time against the Bayleef - much higher Special Defense meant that it might even have survived a crit Razor Leaf from full health, and with the speed advantage and enough damage to two-shot, the risk was mostly bad rolls from the Gastly weakening you enough to go down to that crit Razor Leaf. Game Corner TMs...I think that if we're just talking about the next section or the Morty section, I would put those in a separate tier for "possible but unreasonable" if that got them through, just because the Game Corner is so unreliable as a means of profit and you have so little in the way of available funds that I don't think you could get them without an oppressive time investment. Unless you found a way to cheese the slots, but I don't think that exists. But it would be worth seeing, I think, if that made the difference for any of them, and if it did then seeing if there was a way to make it more viable as a strategy, since this exercise IS more about exploration and potential. (After the game opens up following Morty, I think there's a chance to come across enough money for one of them, so it'd be allowable.)

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I'd probably categorize game corner TMs as another 'minimum experience' category, where yes it's still minimum battles, but it's not realistic from a time perspective. You would have to gamble for a really long time so it's definitely not something most people would want to spend the time to do, but it is still technically possible, so a "Gambling addict" category would make sense for these pokemon.

Regarding the Game Corner TM's, assuming you're using an emulator there's a fairly easy way to get the coins for them. You can use save states in order to get easy wins at the card flip minigame. I'd say it's fair, since the game was balanced around Pokemon wanting these moves on their movesets eventually *cough*magneton*cough*. I'm sure Misdreavous will want an inaccurate move that can at least do major damage.

SPOILER for quick recaps... ... ... Slowking: Curse makes Bugsy easy. Rival 2 does take some luck to get Curse set up without taking too much damage, but it is within reason. PASS Slowbro: Curse still makes Bugsy easy (as long as Tackle doesn't miss). Lower Special Defense means Bayleef is more of a problem, so Mud-Slap and Swift were needed to make things doable. PASS Slowpoke: See Slowbro. PASS Magneton: Bugsy is easily electrocuted. Rival 2's Quilava is a problem, but some luck with opening move choice, Supersonic confusion, and/or paralysis will get it through. PASS Magnemite: See Magneton. PASS Dodrio: Eats the bugs of Bugsy's gym without much issue, and Rival 2 isn't much of an issue either for this powerful bird. PASS Doduo: See Dodrio, but with more luck needed with Fury Attack to do enough to Croconaw. PASS Farfetch'd: Swift is needed just to get past the well Rockets. Past that, see Dodrio. PASS Cloyster: Aurora Beam absolutely annihilates Bugsy, and Rival 2 just needs not getting paralyzed by Lick or a Razor Leaf crit. PASS Dewgong: See Cloyster. PASS Seel: Having only Headbutt and Growl gives Seel too little to work with to get past Bugsy, to say nothing of not being able to hit Gastly. FAIL Muk: Poison Gas and Harden plus Bug resists gets past Bugsy. Rival 2 requires Mud-Slap to hit Gastly, and then Harden helps with dealing with the rest of the team. PASS Gengar: Once again, the biggest obstacle is not having anything to hit the Normal-types used by the well Rockets except for Struggle. After that, Gengar can slowly Lick past enemies until learning Curse after defeating Bugsy's Metapod, which makes Scyther and Rival 2's Croconaw easy with Hypnosis support. STRUGGLE Haunter: See Gengar. STRUGGLE Misdreavus: Swift gives a more reliable damaging move than Psywave, and Confuse Ray can disrupt Scyther's Fury Cutter. Rival 2 is a luck-fest between confusion luck and Psywave, but can be done within reason. PASS Wobbuffet: Bugsy is possible with Counter, but Rival 2 has a unique issue in that Counter doesn't hit Gastly, which has no special attacks. Struggle doesn't work well either as Zubat can do too much damage with Bite. FAIL Final Results: PASS: 12 STRUGGLE: 2 FAIL: 2

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Great video! Love this series. Funny to see Magnemite easily win after Magenton struggled 😂. I gotta vote no on game corner TMs for the Whitney section though. You'd need $110,000 to buy them or spending countless hours gambling. Just like how you dont allow relying on more than 1 critical per battle i dont think its reasonable to just let anything learn them in the next section. Id obviously be fine with using them closer to the elite 4 though

I'm actually worried about the magnemite line vs prior to Rival 3 since quilava upgrades to flamewheel for a fire type move, although overleveling is possible by clearing mandatory trainers in the lighthouse early if you allowed it.

I love these runs on your channel! I wonder if there's a generation or official game where none of the Pokemon can win on minimum battles with what you've reasonably got to work with?

Ok I think wabuffet could have made it. That first round of struggle you went in and got statused a lot. You could have gone in with 1 safeguard pp and used it to prevent confusion and paralysis and then have much more health to use going into the final mon

I feel like game corner TMs should be perfectly allowable. I feel like the essence of this is weather the average person can beat the game with these Pokemon on minimum battles, and unless they are applying challenge restrictions, there's no way anyone would exclude powerful TMs by whatever means they are available.

before i watch this video i am guessing only 3 will fail . am hoping that only least 1 will fail would be happy and surprised if all them passed :) really enjoying these episodes :D tho i will say when you finally do get to Whitney/ golden rod i feel like underground part should be off limit mostly because dont need go down their (YET )!! but do feel like those two extra battles wont really effect out come if do them or not . if you do ill be happy ether way :) that's just my opinion that's all . hope don't take it wrong way

for next challengers dunsparce is mostly Pokemon that worried about i don't know its moves very well . DARE i say that all them will pass !!!! its Pokemon never thought using TBH. its a Pokemon that can be easily missed in Pokemon Crystal think only way get one is to wait for Anthony to call you . perhaps be lucky enough for it spawn in union cave. i didn't know this for very long time .............

I'd allow game corner TMs. Without them there's basically no good TMs in the whole game. like pryce gives you icy wind ffs. Also so many slow pokemon could get walled by morty using curse because you don't have any good moves to beat them in a reasonable amount of resets. Also the accuracy and pp of the big elemental moves makes them more likely to fail against larger teams with accuracy shenanigans like in the e4

Game corner TMs, grinding for extra friendship (if needed) for Return, etc. should all be allowed. But your game times should reflect this. I know you don't prioritize time as much for scoring/ranking, but it'd be another useful way to show the steps required to finish the game than 1-4 points taken off these mons' final scores.

I think the pink bow increases the damage of struggle? While struggle is typeless, I’m pretty sure gen 2 is bugged such that normal types get a STAB increase on struggle, and I think that extends to the pink bow doing so as well. Not for sure on that but it might.

For the move Curse, it's a ???-type in gens 2-4. Should we have a custom icon that shows a question mark?

I pronunciate Girafarig as I pronunciate Gif. Jokes aside, it has a hard G at the end, so I think it should have a hard G at the beginning as well, considering it's a palindrome.

I predict 15 pass, 1 fail this time around.

Wild Farfetch'd are found in Route 43 in Crystal and has a small chance to hold a Stick. Use Thief then run away.

Even if you give Wobbuffet 1 PP in Safeguard, it'll still lose to Rival 2.

I feel like wobbuffet could win if you just go into the battle with 1 pp of safeguard. Would help with the status early on and could sweep. You should give him another shot before writing him off.

The Slowpoke Well guy should be dubbed Jimmy Proton. I made a similar comment earlier and yes, he is meant to evoke Jimmy Neutron.