Good topic Peter. I love my borders. This shows that a heavier bow doesn't always out perform a lighter bow. Bow weight is only what is on your fingers and not the energy transferred to the arrow. My dad has killed boar with a 37# @26" border with a well tuned arrow he had pass throghs on all 3.

I’m currently at 300 lb. my Doctor says if I get down to 220 lb. I’ll be a lot faster. Nice video.

Your countless hours of filming and editing are not going unnoticed. Please keep up the hard work Brother 👍

His form is so good he gets the same speed almost every time! Great archer.

As my Uncle Martin said, back in 1957, When he took me on my 1st bow hunt .." it's not the weight, nor the draw, or the tackle, it's the shooter and how well They stay consistent in their form.. The results all come down to 3 things : breathing, form consistency, n the amount of practice one puts in ! Then .. Your harvest will be a good one!" All of the years later ... Those wisdom of Uncle have stood true! Thanks for sharing!

Very informative test Peter! Although I think what's more impressive is the fact that your shooting form is so consistent that you hit the exact same speed three times in a row with each bow.

The bows efficiency outweighs the poundage every time . There are a lot of variables that go into making an arrow fly fast . Great video Peter . Your draw and release are very consistent, makes me jealous !

Peter, you nailed it! I have made the experience, that traditional archers act like they are competing or comparing their dicks regarding their draw weight.. I am glad to follow your content

Best archery video I've seen!!!!! Easy to follow, easy to understand, easy to watch and extremely informative. Nice

Pretty cool. Thanks for posting!!! Love the simple testing by an expert bowman to get direct answers. Let the data show the way . . . Well done!!

Thanks for your response and keep the videos coming

Great points! The great organization PBS for years had a minimum draw weight of 50# to be a member. I always felt that this was an archaic rule and random. Your video proves my argument.

Thanks for the video, great info, different outcome than I expected.

Oh, yes friend. Your teaching lesson is benefiting me, too because I am bows lover like you do. I shoot between 70 pounds and 85 pounds in my Mathew bows. Mathew bows are kinds of my favorite bows. I’m very excited watching you in KZfaq. Thanks for sharing your technique.

It's a very good archery lesson. More than the weight is the geometry and the speed of your bow that impells more speed to your arrow. Thanks Peter!

Wow, that is counterintuitive. Thanks for posting this video, Peter, you've got a new subscriber. I'm an old guy, 62, hopefully I have enough years left that I can learn some more!

Excellent, thank you, Peter!

Very good analysis of speed and draw. I enjoyed your video very much, thank you.

Wow, the finish with 190fps really blew me away! Great video, nicely done test!

Had a longbow for a while which was 47lbs at 31 inch. I switched to a 40lbs recurve at 31 inch and it was noticeable faster, by me and everyone I shoot with. Amazing how a little curve can make such a huge difference.

Even though you were close that was some mighty fine shooting I enjoyed the video very much.

Great video Peter. What I have been preaching ever since I started making and hunting with bows. A lighter draw super efficient bow is all that is needed. Will be able to enjoy shooting it for many years and your joints will thank you for it. Of course with the proper arrow design and someone skilled enough to send it to the spot needed is where the task is completed. 👊

Thanks, super fun to watch!

You really got your form down consistent there👍 Love my Borders, @ my 31’ 45# is plenty 🤠

Interesting experiment - thanks for sharing it.

Excellent video Peter. Very interesting.

Interesting test..Thank you!

Interesting video and very much food for thought. Thanks for posting.

It all comes down to the amount of energy stored into the bows limbs. That is the reason why they use a minimum draw weight because they aren't regulating who shoots which bow. Great video!!

Well done. Thank you for posting

Scientifically Peter 👌 You have isolated some questions regarding application 🤔 and reading the comments that have been posted 😎 This Vlog has been very educational 👍

Hey, found your channel just 12 minutes ago 😉 Now that was a very informative video, thanks for sharing these interesting results with us, Peter. Liked and subscribed 👍

Thanks for the info, helped me decide how I will buy my next bow

Great,really helped a lot. Im going for a 40lb recurve after your advice. Many thanks. Subscribed.

Great form...great follow through

Peter: Thank You! I really enjoyed that considering I shoot 49 lbs with a 27" drawand a modern hybrid it is very relative to me. Your consistancy on draw is impressive.

The poundage your holding at your fingers, the design of the bow AND the weight of the arrow are the most important factors to determinate the speed of the arrow I guess. Great, informative video again Peter, and it also shows very well you have a very consistent shot (draw lenght, release) since the speeds were always the same over the 3 arows you shot with each bow!👍🏻

Very interesting! Thanks!

It all comes down to how fast the bow returns to the static state He proved it GREAT I subscribe he he but old chap Peter smile a bit xxx

Nice video Peter, well done

Peter new subscriber here. I subscribed because you pull thru the shot with Back Tension & that’s how bows should be shot.

Very, very interesting. Thank you for sharing.

185 pound crossbow. 500 grain arrow. 387 feet per second. All because I've had two rotator cuff surgeries on the same shoulder. I miss longbows, recurves and compound bows. Great video 👍

I love your smooth release...

Awesome video!! Very informative!

I'm gonna check that out, If the rain ever stops here!!☔️🙄😖🌨 😂😂 Thank you Peter.👍🏻👍🏻

Thank you, this was good.

Great informative video

Incredible constant release peter!! Miss your blacktail!

Very good thanks

Thanks for the interesting video... i am brand new to this sport, my uncle gave me his old bow on our last moose hunt... 52lbs @ 28", its an old Damon Howatt... i am interested in finding out what my actual draw length is and the poundage at that lenght, i am 6ft tall, so I'm guessing lenght is pretty close to that... once i get more consistant with my form i will start wanting to cruch the numbers!! its pretty exciting to get into this, kinda like when i first got into firearms, so much info out there and so many variables... really enjoyed this video, some of the info suprised me a little and will be watching part 2 next

Great video. You taught me something today. I always thought that the higher the poundage the faster the arrow but you proved that wrong. I'm mostly shoot between 50 and 55 lb at 29 inch draw. Definitely some good information.

Great video, really shows that the bow matters more than the pounds of the bow ,

Very interesting thanks

This experiment may not be " scientific" but the information is still very valuable and useful! I'm new to archery, and I always thought draw weight correlated to arrow speed. Apparently not! I would much rather shoot the 49-pound bow. Good video! JA

Very interesting!

Thanks for this great Video (even with the Wind noise). Yes - draw lenght is the main reason for Arrow speed. You can easily see it with crossbows that have different cock ranges, but same pounds. My drawlengh is 27,5", so i am looking for short bows like the Bodnik Kiowa. I highly recommend this bow, if you have only 27" - it´s very fast.

Good video I have always said how many lbs means nothing there is to many other variable that matter more. Bow design,drawl length, arrow weight and release style are just a few. Darren

I was amazed good work me lad very good

Great experiment! Yes your draw length is the factor....I too have a Falco bow...the Storm model. I took this to Mongolia as to compare to there traditional horse bow. I don't know if you ever heard of BAMA BOWS? but I have 3 of them, they are fine Bows ...some of the best I have ever owned. But in my opinion, and it is a fact really...you can have the most expensive ornate Bow out there, but it always comes down to the arrow. I enjoy your videos my friend...keep up the good work!

Very good video Peter, greetings from the Basque country.

Yes, it’s very beneficial videotapes share for us to see. Thanks anyway.

Interesting video Peter. My 50lb bow pulls 55lbs with my 30 inch draw length. It's like a built in turbocharger 😄.

Interesting, thanks

Great video. 👍🏻

Thx.. Good video.

Great demonstration 👍 I struggle trying to explain this to customers

Awesome video

Great video

Shows the difference between recurve and straight limb, recurve gives more speed to the arrow as the limb has more curl to it giving it more stored energy when pulled back

Great video thanks

You have a VERY consistent draw length. I am impressed.

Great video again Peter!!!! I draw the same 27" and it not so important on the speed but the right draw weight that you're the most accurate. Draw length is also important to know to help with a good arrow set up youllt need to hunt with. Thanks for sharing love your videos

Thank you I learned a lot

Most people don't consider that some materials take longer to spring back into shape than others do. So a bow made with better materials can have a faster cast or throw than a bow of the same design but with a heavier draw weight - with the same weight arrows. The real advantage to a heavier draw weight is usually getting the same speed as a lighter bow, but with heavier arrows.

A very nice and interesting video sir.

Very interesting, so you don't need a high poundage bow, to hunt with, because a lower poundage bow, with shoot the pretty much the same speed, and is just as lethal. Thank you for sharing this video!

I suspected this with my bows, and that’s why I’m keeping my #50 recurve and selling my longbow @ #60. The longbow is very much slower, but my physical excursion so much higher!

Very nice video

Most important to choose a bow that is comfortable to hold draw and shoot. Weight is not that important unless your hunting, but even then all you really need is 40lbs the right arrow,and sharp broadheads. When I was younger I shot 70lbs now I shoot 45 or 50 max,and they take game just the same. 👍👍👍👍👍great video.

It's not necessarily poundage, it's how much of that poundage can be transferred to the arrow. The more effiecient a limb is at transferring energy, the faster that arrow will fly. The draw length is a factor here too because the more time the string has to accelerate the arrow, the faster the arrow can go. Of course all that energy will be wasted if the arrow isn't properly matched to the bow, incorrect arrow spine will cause the arrow to expend energy fishtailing, and an arrow that is too light can't store all the energy the bow is capable of giving. Great test, it was enjoyable to watch!

Love that border😍

Very interesting 👍👍

limb design helped some but I agree with your findings over all. I had read years ago about someone shooting a 32 lb longbow and shooting a razor sharp arrow thru a deer at about 12-15 yards. I believe that a very sharp broadhead on a good arrow shot in the proper kill areas will result in a good clean kill. even with a lighter bow, in fact, too many people are over bowed and this can cause a lot of problems as we all know. enjoyed the video

excellent teaching thank you

That was very interesting

Very cool 😎

Well done. I shoot a 35# recurve but it is 45# at my 31" draw. With 430 gr arrows it gets 175 fps. It is a cheap chinese amazon bow 100$ canadian to my door and it shoots as well as the Hoyt Buffalo i shot for years before this one. I would like you to try one and do a review on this inexpensive bow. Its a Sinoart 56" recourve. Only about 80$ USD . At its short length and my long draw it should not even work but it is really an amazing little bow. Give it a try, easy to re- sell if you dont like it.

Good demo! That was a pretty smooth shooting 55lb bow. I think what you can draw and shoot smoothly is also key. I have a 52 inch 55 lb at 28 inch draw Kiowa. I would like to upgrade to something with fast foam core limbs, a little longer and a little more forgiving.

Good morning my friend thank-you

nice one

Awesome video makes me curious on what mine would be I’m a 31” draw but I shoot a Mathews mainly

Great upload Peter! I've always shot the compound and thought that new technology always prevailed! I've found a new respect for u guys who shoot the trad bows.. A purchase is just around the corner 😁👍 so great info Peter thnx brother

I have a Bkack Hunter takedown bow , and it shoots 180 fps with carbon arrows . However, I must say that the weight of the arrow itself can change sleed dramatically, and you used at least 2 different arrows that I could see. I liked your video so decided to subscribe.

The reason for draw weight minimums for hunting is just that's the only convenient measurement that the regulators [whether legislated or by executive decree] could come up with as a lower limit [with the ostensible intent to prevent hunters with inadequate equipment from wounding a lot of game to the detriment of everyone.] When those regulations were enacted decades past, electronic chronographs weren't a thing, and exotic bows for the most part didn't exist [recurve or traditional longbow, take your pick!] Yes, we're more technically astute now & can recognize that modern equipment that can cast a carbon-fiber arrow much faster than the tackle on hand when those regulations were developed. The fact that they haven't changed over the years indicates that they were adequate to their intended effect, so what's not broken doesn't require fixing. Meanwhile, thanks for the excellent demonstration of what really counts, flight speed & accuracy [& of course, cutting diameter: keep those broadheads SHARP! ;-) ]

excellent video that debunks a major myth.

I think that limb design is a factor for sure, but for hunting gear, you need good quality broad heads and heavy arrows for good penetration. My 40 pound bow with good carbon arrows and 150 gr. broadheads will blow right through a deer, no problem. That said, I think for Elk or Moose, I would step that up to 50 pounds with 400 gr. broadheads for better penetration. That should be plenty to kill just about anything you want to have for dinner. Good video.

Makes sense, energy transferred is a function of the distance over which the acceleration force is applied.

1st thing that stood out to me was just how slow your arrows were flying my 48#s with modern limbs gets 50fps more, honestly didn't expect it So this actually makes complete sense: The longbow is slower for its weight because recurves are more mechanically efficient, the 3rd bow has a higher velocity for its weight because the more extreme curvature of the limb is more mechanically efficient. So when the law says min 40#s its at your draw length, my 48# hunting recurve was assembled by putting 40# target limbs on a 17" riser yielding my 48#s and not 40 Personally I look at momentum more than velocity because a higher momentum will result in more penetration The point of the law though is to decrease wounding because there is a point at which a bow, no matter the skill of the archer, simply does not have the energy to penetrate and deliver an ethical kill (Edits were to spelling)

Jolly good chap