lmao real

And that implies playing the game more

Playing the game more to play it less

Speedruns: Least Time Min%: Least stuff No X: Not interact with whole mechanics I think you get the point

Gotta figure out how to play less of the game so you can do it more times.

Yeah, challenge runs come in 2 flavours, that can be boiled down to "You" or "I". "Can I beat Dark Souls without taking damage?" Is a showcase of personal skill and technique when playing the game, with possible allowances for unavoidable damage. "Can You beat Dark Souls without taking damage?" Is a discussion of forced damage sections like the lava floors after getting the orange ring, or the first room with Seath. And in the second type, you can go "OK, so I couldn't do this glitch, but here's footage of a speed runner who did." Or "If you're Lucky, yes, so while I didn't, someone Could."

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@@calemr Your comment feels really peculiar to me because I thoroughly agree with what I assume you actually mean but the way you phrased it slightly bothers me. I was going to explain what I mean exactly but I'm currently drunk and also lazy as fuck in general. Anyways have a nice day

@@Armin_Akoyim "I'm drunk and lazy but anyway have a nice day" is a sentiment that deeply resonates with me. I hope you have a nice day too stranger~

⁠@@Armin_Akoyimyou real as hell for that one dude Have a great day internet stranger

This is the first thing I thought of when I saw three turns be added. I’m glad someone else thought of it too.

What about a Boo in the audience triggering it? I've seen that in a TAS

One Jumpman

You don't f%&$ with-a Mario!

Mario's canonical power level

yeah. Despite what we saw, this adventure is actually pretty casual for Mario 😭 he had a tougher time against Bowser and the star rod 😭

@@kingfree4109 you'd think he could use the ultimate power of struggling to live with 10 badges pinned all over to just bonk the star rod out of Bowser's hand, but apparently not

Plus using Bomb Squad on Shadow Queen can remove another turn on top of that

Yeah, was looking for this comment. Weirdly enough paper mode makes your whole hitbox smaller or something.

in the original paper mario i know that you can skip the cannons by running away from the bills. so that could reduce the total if i works in this game.

@@gbyt034 He counted them if they were "unavoidable"

Knowing speedrun tricks about this game when I played it casually many years ago makes a lot of these comment sound very familiar to me

Teleporter room early would skip to chapter 8 and save more no?

@@SPZ-gv2on Teleporter room early takes you to chapter 7, not 8, but you don't get partners out of it so it's impossible.

You guys are missing the biggest glitch of all, ACE can be done in petalburg remember? Also goomba trio and blooper can both be skipped

@@sythrus What's ACE?

@@chwaftka9775 Arbitrary code execution. With the correct inputs, you can make the game do whatever you want, such as play the ending cutscene.

I know that this is 13 years later but also in Paper Jam with King Boo and King Bob-omb

i never played Superstar Saga until much later and i had the same misconception. the game just conditions you to not wanna jump on people with spiked objects on their head so its a reasonable assumption to make.

I went through it and listed the turns saved: - 1 turn on Blooper - 1 turn on Gold Fuzzy - 1 turn on Hooktail - [-2 turns because Bringle didn’t count running away from Doopliss] - 2 turns due to ruleset difference in Chapter 5 (first striking Embers) - 2 turns from skipping cannons in Chapter 5 - 1 turn on Crump [mentioned in the video as a possible save] - 3 turns from skipping cannons in Chapter 8 - 3 turns due to ruleset difference in Chapter 8 (first striking bones enemies) - 1 turn due to ruleset difference(?) by skipping Shadow Sirens + Doopliss - 1 turns on Shadow Queen by using Bomb Squad Total: 14 (but really 16 after accounting for Bringle's error) Breakdown: - 6 turns caused by a ruleset difference - 5 turns for cannons - 5 others

@@comexkwhat’s the video called? I couldn’t find it

The 1 turn blooper is peak crackhead energy lol. Thanks! Don't think I'd have found this vid otherwise.

Thanks for the shoutout GOAT!

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This interaction also is weird and can also save a turn during the Cortez fight, as the bomb squad goes off after Cortez transforms

@@sandwiches42 That can't save any turns, as Bomb Squad goes off at the start of turn 3 if used on turn 1, and you can already beat his phases in one turn apiece.

@@jdaster64 Well Dang it. Oh well, I thought I had something, I forgot it took 3 turns.

I remember a TAS manipulating an Audience Boo into attacking Shadow Queen, which somehow _counts_ as one of the three "turns of invincibility", bringing it down to two _real_ turns you have to wait...

It works by bomb squad being weird.

Funnily if a stage hazard hits the Shadow Queen during her Invincible Phase that would also count, needing only two turns to finish that phase.

Merlee will never trigger in the entire run if it is played optimally (technically it will trigger during the Shadow Queen fight at best, but it is not useful there). At best, it trades two extra turns somewhere to save this turn. Her first curse takes 5 to 10 turns to go off, but the counter doesn't decrement until starting on the second turn of battle. The counter and type of curse are also not set until the first time the second turn of battle occurs after talking with her, meaning you effectively need a sixth turn that isn't turn 1. That means you have to get a curse before Hooktail. You then go through Hooktail (optimally 2 turns, very much possible but absolutely miserable RNG required unless you rank up FP first), Iron Clefts (2 turns), and Cortez (3 turns). At this point, you have taken 4 turns after the first turn of battle and never have another battle last past turn 1 until the Shadow Queen. Maybe one more turn for Crump 2 if no answer is found for him, but we are still a turn short. The entire party is fully healed after getting a Crystal Star in all versions of the game except the Japanese one, so setting up during Cortez does not work for Crump unless we are willing to play the Japanese version.

I mean, this game considers it a turn, the glitz pit requirement says "Beat the enemy within 5 turns" and they mean five whole rounds The game just calls it turns

And for whatever is worth, a "turn" in warhammer 40k is when both players play, so at least there is a precedent of some way.

It’s less shade and more a meme at this point, even among the Dream Team.

@@eroraf8637 only the dream fanbase would be deluded enough to think cheating is a meme

@@the1whoplayz At that point, you're just fishing for reasons to hate on him. They don't think that his cheating is a meme, rather they're memeing about his cheating. (Ooh! That rhymes.)

Flurrie solo is one of the easiest partner solos. She can attack everything you have to fight except flame enemies, which she can deal with using items or Gale Force, and she is absolutely impossible to kill. The hard partner solos are Bobbery and Mowz.

@celestialspark5697 well what if it was a duo or trio with Bobbery and/or Mowz? Always switching to whoever is least optimal for the given fight?

You are not lying

I think you have to be in paper mode right? It has a smaller hitbox i think

Yessssss I was thinking about that 😭 it was bothering me so I checked the comments. I used to walk between the bullets and just slowly walk between the bill Blasters

In paper mode, yes

I could be misremembering, but I'm almost certain I've done it without being in paper mode

I don't know for certain if point swaps are usable outside of battle, but i see no reason that they wouldn't be. if thats the reason they were overlooked than that's understandable lol

Are you certain you can use Point Swaps out of combat? I do not remember that being possible.

Thanks for the info! I was wondering the same thing lol. It's because there is no way back to Rogueport with Bobbery until after the fight right?

Speedrunning tricks are usually great for these challenges