How Mercedes Made The Most Powerful 4-Cylinder Engine In The World

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Mercedes AMG has cranked out a gem of an engine. The hand built M139 is a 2.0L turbocharged inline four-cylinder that makes 416 horsepower! That makes it the most powerful turbo four-cylinder engine currently in a production car! The M139 engine is used the Mercedes GLA45, CLA45, and A45 vehicles. 416 horsepower at 6,750 RPM and 369 lb-ft at 5,000 RPM. With a displacement of 1991 cc, the M139 makes over 208 horsepower per liter! It also has some of the highest peak combustion pressures of any engine.
How did Mercedes do it? Clever engineering. From the engine layout, to the roller-bearing twin-scroll turbos, to the block and forged internals, to the cylinder head, to the spray on cylinder liners, the engine is packed with brilliant engineering features. How does it all work? Check out the video for full details!
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@RMosher11 4 жыл бұрын

How did Mercedes make the most powerful 4 cylinder engine in the world? Simple. Boost. Boost. Boost, with a generous helping of yet more boost.

@Error-30h3 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe afterwards we can get some boost to celebrate

@henryon400cc2 4 жыл бұрын

Ye the boost is important here, but they also had good decisions and ideas presented in this engine , like he said in the beginning in the video

@D7mo0o0on 4 жыл бұрын

its easy to boost but its hard to make a boosted engine and put a warranty on it

@RMosher11 4 жыл бұрын

Everyone and everything uses forced induction now. I personally don't find it very exciting or interesting myself.

@afrosheenix 4 жыл бұрын

This thing needs a supercharger though, looks like you have to rev the crap out of it to hit peak torque and hp. My twin charged volvo s90 does it right, minus about 100hp. It can use the supercharger and turbo at the same time and I've seen it pushing 23psi.

@abaj006 4 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile, at VW, "how can we make a plastic engine block..."

@gepixelt7712 4 жыл бұрын

VW: "We saved 180 pounds on the new Golf!"

@Elias_g1 4 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@urib1184 4 жыл бұрын

Haha you’re not wrong, I swear the 2.0t in my b6 Passat and vw cc are like 30% plastic on the top. A brittle broken nightmare.

@Mufassa85 4 жыл бұрын

Ve vill make make a plastic engine und.... more boost? (Um-tsss Um-tsss)x2

@wysetech2000 4 жыл бұрын

@@gepixelt7712 180 lbs is a lot. Must be more plastic! I guess it will fall apart 180 times faster then.

@thebravegallade731 3 жыл бұрын

konigsegg: hold my beer *makes a supercar with a 3 cylinder*

@jli801010 3 жыл бұрын

You mean "hold my Pripps blå"

@jimmyb4982 2 жыл бұрын

These 'hold my beer jokes' are getting old, fast.

@justz9435 2 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyb4982 you don't need beer jokes when you have family

@alialsafaar6147 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and 2 electric motors what u tryna say

@justz9435 2 жыл бұрын

@@alialsafaar6147 even without it's still 600hp. That's gotta count for something

@positivesquad 3 жыл бұрын

Mercedes : We have the most powerful 4 Cylinder Honda Civic Drivers : But we have V-Tec

@fryke 3 жыл бұрын

And if the name isn't enough, an additional plastic badge saying V-Tec will do the trick. As long as you don't actually have to compare them in a race, when screaming "V-tec!" on straights and corners won't help. ;)

@shabutir1820 3 жыл бұрын

Mercedes has ALWAYS been at the forefront of car technology. They have pioneered almost all major improvements on cars. They were one of the first cars to have fuel injection in the early 1950s. Of course Mercedes is going to do it better, they are anal retentive Germans. I love Mercedes, but theres something to be said for Honda engines reliability and being able to handle power. I have seen many tuners be able to get 450hp out of their 90s K motors and the new type r civic can produce over 350hp with a simple engine tune and while it may not be as much as the Mercedes, its nothing to sneeze at.

@thenotoriousjoey9956 3 жыл бұрын

Shabuti R18 Audi is better

@ToxicPwny 3 жыл бұрын

@@thenotoriousjoey9956 yes the audi is better but the type r is $15000 less and much more reliable 😂

@thenotoriousjoey9956 3 жыл бұрын

@@ToxicPwny when you own German you don’t care about reliability

@willchen9014 4 жыл бұрын

Well I guess it only has to last until the warranty expires!

@truantray 4 жыл бұрын

That would be a first for Mercedes.

@matthewkuhl79 4 жыл бұрын

That's been what i've been thinking about all these new preposterously-high output engines.

@jeffreysouthflorida7008 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t expect longevity for the vehicle with this engine. I predict the vehicle with this engine will lose 90% of its value in less than five years.

@valentinuiliqnow6198 4 жыл бұрын

Which is better and why Twin Scroll turbo OR mazda 4-3-1 exhaust whit Ejector Effect ? Psl !help!

@markoz673bajen8 4 жыл бұрын

You mean Maserati?

@656hookemhorns 4 жыл бұрын

Four minutes in and we get the answer, 30psi of boost.

@johnludtke4416 4 жыл бұрын

Slap that turbo on almost any other 4banger, see what happens. That's the point. Edit: people need to open their ears to key words like IN PRODUCTION TODAY.

@johnludtke4416 4 жыл бұрын

But just a couple minutes later, you get the answer of how it can withstand that pressure. 😆

@Trident_Euclid 4 жыл бұрын

Boost pressure doesn't always translate to more power.

@JohnSmith-vi6dq 4 жыл бұрын

Forged internals.

@johnludtke4416 4 жыл бұрын

@@Trident_Euclid that is true.

@dooder126 2 жыл бұрын

In my experience, I’ve found the heat saturation gains from mounting the turbocharger on the firewall-side of the bay can also aid in catalyst light-off and therefore reduce tailpipe emissions. I would not be surprised to hear this was also a consideration with the new EU 7 targets on the horizon.

@MrCapi55 4 жыл бұрын

Great improvements from Mercedes Benz and also by me, because I now understand your drawings and can follow the explanations through them, Jason. Thank You. What is the most impressive technology for me, is the Nanoslide that "sticks" the oil to the cylinder walls that reduces the Friction BY 50%! and the TWAS which also compensates the Closed Deck Heads.

@BentHestad 4 жыл бұрын

You just have to love people who knows what they are talking about, like this guy! Greetings and many thanks from Trondheim, Norway!

@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Bent!

@valentinuiliqnow6198 4 жыл бұрын

Pls help ! ! ! Which is better Twin Scroll turbo OR mazda 4-3-1 exhaust whit Ejector Effect

@JQB45 4 жыл бұрын

@@valentinuiliqnow6198 I guess at this point you should just look up the two technologies and read about it.

@wysetech2000 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, Jason is very knowledgeable but he doesn't have to own the junk his video's are about.

@nickking1510 4 жыл бұрын

wysetech2000 I don’t think he’s turned many wrenches or painted many cars or any modification or rebuilt and blueprinted an engine or supercharger lolo

@NCSUFutbol 4 жыл бұрын

The $54k driveable German grenade!

@blurglide 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah- stick a potato masher handle on the back

@banner7310 4 жыл бұрын

Yup mercedes are built like crap. Ull get the same reliability driving a baked potato size car.

@GoldenGrenadier 4 жыл бұрын

@@banner7310 I agree with what you said(I think) but were you high when you thought up that analogy?

@SBCBears 4 жыл бұрын

@Lassi Kinnunen Maybe Benz knows it's potential buyers of new models won''t keep the car beyond 50k miles.

@Runmeerkat 4 жыл бұрын

@@banner7310 you don't know what you are talking about

@Atanyrhate 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed this video immensely. I appreciated your excitement about this engine.

@shmoofgang 4 жыл бұрын

Love your videos man i learned a lot, your hard work is paying off!!

@thatguy1919 4 жыл бұрын

Honda Civic Type R: *I have the most powerful 4 cylinder engine* Mercedes: *Hold my engine oil*

@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын

Haha, to be fair, the M133 was also the most powerful (and more power than the Civic), but now there's a new one. :)

@carlosdeleon9593 4 жыл бұрын

Engineering Explained The Focus RS has more hp than the Type R?

@vortifyne 4 жыл бұрын

@@carlosdeleon9593 The Focus RS Has a 2.3L engine, not a 2.0L like the others :)

@ej1_drew 4 жыл бұрын

naturally aspirated *

@johnsteele8073 4 жыл бұрын

Except one will run for hundreds of thousands of miles trouble-free and the other one will probably blow up before 50,000 miles

@mitchellbarnow1709 4 жыл бұрын

What an incredible engine, it’s too bad that many owners won’t know anything about their amazing engine! They drive it because it’s an AMG and therefore has a lot of power.

@Captain_Coleslaw 4 жыл бұрын

I work for Mercedes, and we sell quite a few of the old gen 2.0 380 hp 4 pots. And most of the people who drive them do care, and do understand quite a bit about them... Trust me, you dont get a high power 4 cyl if you dont know about cars... Its going to cost a fortune to run if you dont treat it right. The type of people you are thinking of buy massive E and S classes with V8's ;) IE the E63s and the S63 and S65 Coupe

@mitchellbarnow1709 4 жыл бұрын

Captain_Coleslaw I’m really happy to hear that!

@danielross5931 4 жыл бұрын

@@Captain_Coleslaw "i work for mercedes"...seems legit.

@soundseeker63 4 жыл бұрын

Its really not incredible its just a really heavily boosted 4-pot. Nothing new or innovative about it so far as I can see. Just makes a lot of power from few cc.Would MUCH rather have the character and vocal delights of the V8.

@nickb638 4 жыл бұрын

@@soundseeker63 where did you get your mechanical engineering degree from?

@nunyabidness4946 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome breakdown. You have great content. Thank you for your efforts.

@davidstowar6636 2 жыл бұрын

Not many people in the world share your talent. My engineering experience is limited to watching nerdy videos on KZfaq. The way you compare things is always a relevant comparison, the way you explain things is always so easy to understand but still very detailed and technical. No fancy computer graphics but you don't need to, I can pause the video and analyse your whiteboard and it all just makes sense. Every piece of data you use is valid and if you have to estimate then you research the heck out of it to make sure your estimate can't be more than maybe 1% out. You carefully select the right words to use so there's never any confusion about what you're saying. Every video you make is like this. Really impressive. Thank You.

@itsalgud1459 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jason, for explaining some very complicated technology extremely well. The specific output of modern engines astounds me, having become interested in cars in my middle teens in the early 60s. At that time, American muscle was hitting about 1 hp/cu in on the hottest cars (about 61 hp/l.). The fastest European cars were getting close to 100hp/l, which was about what race cars got. I’m fascinated by this technology which makes more than 200 hp/l possible ON A PRODUCTION CAR! 😵

@valentinuiliqnow6198 4 жыл бұрын

Pls help ! ! ! Which is better Twin Scroll turbo OR mazda 4-3-1 exhaust whit Ejector Effect

@sloth0jr 4 жыл бұрын

@freezeme360 Yeah, the 70s was a performance wasteland known for bringing us the 165hp Corvette. Early emissions equipment and super high gas prices didn't exactly make the case for the big block 60s American muscle. The thing that blows my mind is cars have gotten heavier, more complicated, more powerful, safer, and MORE RELIABLE. That's some pretty amazing progress.

@K20EF8 4 жыл бұрын

It uses forced induction at over 30lbs of boost. Not really that special.

@K20EF8 4 жыл бұрын

@freezeme360 He was talking about HP/L. 200hp/L isnt that special at over 30lbs of boost

@fidelcatsro6948 4 жыл бұрын

at the end of the day it is all about making engines that can run and sustain the tremendous pressures forced induction can throw at it

@8peterp 4 жыл бұрын

Turbo roller bearing ,spray on coating ,electric waterpump.. sounds like endless money pit around age 6 years old.

@brysonshires9742 4 жыл бұрын

It's a money pit brand new, people who buy these have the money to "waste" except you can't say waste exactly because they're paying for the luxury, not the reliability

@vulekv93 4 жыл бұрын

Just in time your lease ends, so you renew contract and get new model.

@emocan126 4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes internet rambos. Never driven one, no sorry sat in one but endless talk. Listing some things and then saying: wow mist be unteliable Just stfu

@truantray 4 жыл бұрын

Vy make a car last beyond zee lease period?

@nicoleibundgut534 4 жыл бұрын

The Ballbearing Turbos are not that unreliable anymore.

@TheAdanChannel 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing video!! thumbs up for you and thumbs up for Merc for giving so much thinking on their engines, I meant this truly is race engineering applied on streetcars.

@CTKenKaniff 4 жыл бұрын

One of your best videos I have seen to date - Amazing Merc Engine... 416 HP out of that little 2L is looney tunes! (And people ask what F1 does for road cars...) Also, TURO is awesome - I have been using it for 5 years now and its AWESOME!

@technobrend0 4 жыл бұрын

Right after I heard the words Turo I was expecting to hear about its quirks and features.

@drdoolittle5724 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent - you really are the best lecturer out there, thank you. Did you mention improved mpg?

@Ruhailzy 4 жыл бұрын

h bethune watch the video and check if he mentioned it

@LocPH. 4 жыл бұрын

I think he only mentioned increased low load fuel efficiency, cylinder walls have less fiction.

@Paul-pj5qu 4 жыл бұрын

At this point I am assuming Mercedes said nothing about MPG and therefore the difference is marginal or not as good. The engine would seem to be more efficient, but is generating a lot more power. I am not an engineer, but it seems the basic answer is what is greater the increase in power or the increase in efficiency?

@LocPH. 4 жыл бұрын

@@Paul-pj5qu Well power itself has nothing to do with efficiency. Depending on what you're comparing the power increase to, it's probably higher than the efficiency gains. On the other hand, just an increase of say, 5 mpg, is a lot.

@blu3flare25 4 жыл бұрын

It would be somewhere in the ball park of 1600 grams of fuel per minute at full RPM.

@arielnyc2005 4 жыл бұрын

Really happy to see port injectors, I hope MB adds it to more of their engines.

@PROJECTDRIVEN1 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant engine! Nicely explained & this was very informative

@thefrenchiestfry5495 4 жыл бұрын

M139: *Exists* K20 with cheap ebay turbo kit: im About to end this mans whole career

@OG.Salinas 4 жыл бұрын

Furries are disgusting with low boost making 350 whp

@siopowar 4 жыл бұрын

The keywords are "production" and "luxury". If thats not for you, then K20. But people making enough money for an AMG dont have time for that hobby, which is why they hire us to maintain their cars. All about balance and options.

@OG.Salinas 4 жыл бұрын

Aaron Powell no one said anything about what your talking about bro

@siopowar 4 жыл бұрын

@@OG.Salinas really? not a single thing?

@riteshnayak80 4 жыл бұрын

Then comes K24...and says "what're the girls upto?"

@nazhif1 4 жыл бұрын

But didn't Mitsubishi make a 440hp version of the Evo X ?

@8Hshan 4 жыл бұрын

Did. And, sadly, past tense is very meaningful here...

@Alex-di8ti 4 жыл бұрын

Yes in the FQ440

@shhhdontshout 4 жыл бұрын

Its a tuned engine. Tuned by UK ralliart.

@nazhif1 4 жыл бұрын

@@shhhdontshout And this isn't tuned by AMG?

@Fit.digital 4 жыл бұрын

Theres people with 900 hp evos

@ashleylemmer8016 4 жыл бұрын

Really enjoy these technical videos, you don't get this elsewhere.

@dooder126 2 жыл бұрын

Another note on addition of PFI: it is very difficult to get a DI-only engine to meet soot requirements as there’s often a lot of trapped fuel, so a side benefit would be better performance on PM emissions. Also, PFI generally handles low load conditions (idle) in a much smoother fashion than DI. It’s crazy how much advanced tech goes into the modern ICE!

@pauldascenz5356 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! 416 Hp out of a 2.0 liter 4 Cylinder Turbo! That’s amazing! How many miles do you think this engine will last?

@corok12 4 жыл бұрын

Paul D'Ascenz 7

@SungHyunKim1 4 жыл бұрын

@donbrashsux 4 жыл бұрын

Paul D'Ascenz 3

@chicago2370 4 жыл бұрын

maybe 20 if you drive slow

@diazzsama 4 жыл бұрын

Forever, ever

@xdygmnyrdf 4 жыл бұрын

They should make a V8 version of this engine, with 800 horsepower.

@nickmotsarsky4382 4 жыл бұрын

It doesn't typically scale like that.

@omarhasan2083 4 жыл бұрын

@@nickmotsarsky4382 unfortunately

@josephjocson1385 4 жыл бұрын

xdygmnyrdf me i want inline 6 between 150-200hp/l

@Eman7335 4 жыл бұрын

Inline 8? Lol

@randomperson8000 4 жыл бұрын

Eman7335 4.0 double i4 quadturbo. They should hire me in the marketing department

@glorious_help 4 жыл бұрын

Insane progress from Mercedes, throwing everything at it

@chariflakchiri 4 жыл бұрын

I'll take two M139 engines please, in a V8 configuration!

@juanordonezgalban2278 3 жыл бұрын

How about 4 of them in a w16? Isn't that what powers the chiron?

@NSUScooter 3 жыл бұрын

You’d do better with two Hayabusa engines IMO

@cowboythomas5904 3 жыл бұрын

Go with a Honda NSR500 which makes 200hp.

@talisikid1618 2 жыл бұрын

V8s are going the way of the v10/12s.

@dreadpirate6469 2 жыл бұрын

One in the rear as in porche that powering the rear wheels . How about that

@Mr.Investor89 4 жыл бұрын

I would like to thank you for this video, i was looking forward to see it. Thanks 🙏🏻

@QuickTrickTools 4 жыл бұрын

Phew, 54k for the CLA45? Hopefully we see continued innovations like these, so that these engines may become more accessible. I'm sure we'll see more of these pop up in European drifting as time goes on.

@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's actually reasonable in my book. I was looking at a mercedes dealership job, and the prospect of owning one of those was intriguing.

@ristekostadinov2820 4 жыл бұрын

BMW M50 is good engine for building power on a budget in Europe.

@steffenkawa8374 4 жыл бұрын

Only if the engine survive the first 2 years of leasing. Those cars are getting fucked by their owners. You get special leasing conditions if you work for Mercedes Benz in Germany. No car guy wants a leased car because we all know these cars are done.

@steffenkawa8374 4 жыл бұрын

@@ristekostadinov2820 definitely a good engine. Is a saw a fully modified e30 with an M50 with over 900hp on the Hockenheimring.

@Tehsheeeep 4 жыл бұрын

shame the a45 and cla45 look like a chav edition merc

@xaira12 4 жыл бұрын

Great vid, actually watched the whole thing

@arianamirgholami9555 21 күн бұрын

People say it's just 30psi of boost but something most people don't know is you can run this engine on 91 octane which is mind blowing with these kind of pressures

@rztrzt 4 жыл бұрын

310kW 500Nm (157.7kW/l) for those used to sane units.

@AmashingaMusic 4 жыл бұрын

loving this Channel all the way from South Africa :)

@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@donbrashsux 4 жыл бұрын

Amashinga Music .. do you live in Brownsbay then..

@darkness5702 4 жыл бұрын

LoL Africa, how's life with all the AIDS down there?

@jamesburnett7085 2 жыл бұрын

Still love your drawings and crystal clear explanations. Totally awesome.

@TheMick26 4 жыл бұрын

Nanoslide? Another slick video is what 'twas.😋 Thanks again, Jason!

@renmaru4485 4 жыл бұрын

30.5psi. great. engine will be done after 50k miles

@xdygmnyrdf 4 жыл бұрын

Interestingly enough, many diesel engines have peak cylinder pressure about 200bar, and they last for many many miles. This one is at 160bar, Mercedes could make it long lasting if they wanted to. But instead, the cylinder is made from aluminum, coated with some smartass coating. And the piston skirt is of minimal size. So yes, this engine will wear out quickly.

@eziux 4 жыл бұрын

Haha thats like a dollar per mile till it goes boom.

@spoton3278 4 жыл бұрын

Let's not get crazy here. If anything goes on this car it'll be the electronics or something. I'm sure the engine will last at least 100k

@charlieward7606 4 жыл бұрын

at least its not a diesel PSA engine ahahah

@WinterCharmVT 4 жыл бұрын

@@xdygmnyrdf smartly made coatings are not necessarily bad. I don't understand why the car world is so averse to these new coatings, and new technologies. For people that have embraced things like turbochargers and torque vectoring, why is it that technical and non mechanical stuff like a chemical coating scares you all so much!? Just like you can retool or machine new parts you can get stuff re-coated, if the coating wears out.

@cocoaliveson3235 4 жыл бұрын

That engine compartment looks like the Hieronymus Bosch painting "Hell".

@mrlowcarsales 4 жыл бұрын

Your video are awesome. learned lots of new stuff here. 👍

@gatordeen2528 4 жыл бұрын

Jason, thanks on a great explanation. From your white board description, the turbo is on the firewall side of the engine, but the video looks like it is near the front of the car. What did I miss? You are doing a great job on your videos.

@dman09191964 4 жыл бұрын

Motorcycles engines(sportbike) have been making over 200 horses per liter(normally aspirated) for years.

@bigpig187 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, they are reliable and incredibly cheap compared to this engine. I was expecting something that can reach at least 300hp/l like a NA 2 stroke

@RiloElton 4 жыл бұрын

Because motorcycles are light, they only need little amount of torque to get going. They will make great power at high rpm, but no torque down below. It's a different approach.

@dman09191964 4 жыл бұрын

@@bigpig187 If they are going to talk about the most power per liter street engine then that award goes to Kawasaki's H2R at 326 hp per liter. But that bike really isn't street legal is it? But a 2 liter version would put out 652 hp. Just sayin'.

@bigpig187 4 жыл бұрын

@@dman09191964 Yeah, but the H2R isn't street legal. for race engine i think that the NSR 500 is still on top.

@dman09191964 4 жыл бұрын

@@bigpig187 You are right on both statements. The Mercedes engine is nice though,for a car engine. I would love to drop that motor in my Ford Focus ST,which only puts out 252 hp stock. But when it comes to engines I am all about sportbike motors. Just amazing pieces of art to me. Just waiting for Suzuki to unveil their new 280 hp(I'm guessing you know) Hayabusa to the world. God allowing that will be my next bike. My ZX14r is feeling a little slow compared to these new bikes

@RaminHonary 4 жыл бұрын

Forged pistons + dual-scroll turbo + two-stage fuel injection + high-tech cylinder liner == *EXTREME* (ly expensive).

@x7royalhbb943 3 жыл бұрын

@Bmw EM unnecessary ,why ????

@leonh.3251 3 жыл бұрын

First thing to do on every of your video is to click the Like Button. Such high quality education. Love it greets from Germany.

@DC-rn1fc 3 жыл бұрын

... als deutscher Ingenieur im Fachbereich Motorenentwicklung stimme ich dem absolut zu! Wir habens sowas von drauf, daß wir drauf SIND, haha... No, seriously - I strongly agree with this.

@mentalkangaroo4228 Жыл бұрын

all I gotta say man is keep doing what you're doing, the people need your content to make it through without having to sift through a boring article about Mercedes to find what they want.

@federox86 4 жыл бұрын

Practically, in these years nobody is inventing anything exceptional.

@singular9 4 жыл бұрын

Except Toyota... They just made a new tank

@WinterCharmVT 4 жыл бұрын

Sure they are -- it's just all on the EV side. Look at the Lotus Evija.

@kenkalajdzic 4 жыл бұрын

@@WinterCharmVT Most of the exceptional EV stuff comes from Rimac tho.

@cargillmonteque2311 4 жыл бұрын

@@WinterCharmVT and ev tech has been around for decades

@rhubarbpie2027 4 жыл бұрын

I saw a GLA45 AMG trim while in Bastogne, and it was FAST. The anti-lag between shifts sounded good, too ;)

@rvymvn 4 жыл бұрын

The backfire you're hearing from it isn't anti lag.

@rhubarbpie2027 4 жыл бұрын

@@rvymvn what is it? I was thinking the snap crackle pop was unburnt fuel keeping the turbine spooled up between up and downshifts.

@rvymvn 4 жыл бұрын

@@rhubarbpie2027 if I remember correctly its just ignition timing because it sounds cool. Antilag causes a lot of heat and wear on the turbo, no company would but anti lag on anything that isn't a race car. (Sorry I should have said what it was rather than just that's it's not antilag. Ultimately, I'm sure it's not antilag but no sure of what causes the pops)

@frankodwyer9532 4 жыл бұрын

Toyotas absolutly have anti lag on their 90s 3sgte powered celica. They were factory equiped in some models with anti lag. Just for future reference

@rvymvn 4 жыл бұрын

@@frankodwyer9532 from what I've just learned those were only for homologation cars and didn't actually work on the cars sold. I had no idea about this!

@rickbullock4331 2 жыл бұрын

I love those diagrams. This info is way above my pay grade and I’m guessing you attended all your classes in University. Some super impressive numbers coming from this engine. I remember when 1 h.p. per cubic inch of displacement was a big deal but over 2 is amazing to me. I think if I had had teachers like you I might have gotten through high school.😬👍👍🇨🇦

@1205shyam 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent as always!

@GuHKSBASS 4 жыл бұрын

LANCER EVO FQ-400: 400hp 2.0L: Seen. EVO FQ440: 440hp from 2.0L: has left the conversation. Mitsubishi did this like more than 10 years ago, and did it while keeping reliability.

@wyrazowfkp 4 жыл бұрын

It was 5 years ago in 2014

@robeley514 4 жыл бұрын

And Honda made 240hp in the s2k without the use of any turbocharger back 20 years ago. People are flipping out because this is some bs peoplemover car. Mercedes doesn't make a single thing that excites anyone, so this, well, they jumped on this

@brunobegic3841 4 жыл бұрын

only 40 fq440s were built, so that shouldnt really count as a production car

@brunobegic3841 4 жыл бұрын

@@robeley514 they are making nothing that excites people anymore?????? Ok, then why are their sales so high, and why are their cars so damn popular everywhere in the world? In 2018 they sold 316 thousand luxury cars in the USA alone, more than BMW and a lot more than Audi

@wyrazowfkp 4 жыл бұрын

@@brunobegic3841 Only 64 McLaren F1 were built, so that shouldn't count as well :) It was (fq 440) a factory car, you could buy in dealership, with warranty --- so it counts.

@shanemitchell5807 4 жыл бұрын

Geez high boost, strong engine, never heard that formula for high power before....

@justanotherinternetexpert7743 2 жыл бұрын

No kidding, not exactly a brain buster.

@aaryeshg.6526 2 жыл бұрын

@@justanotherinternetexpert7743 all while meeting current emissions and regulations. Complete with factory warranty. That's what's nice about it. Sure you can tune older engines and will definitely make that power but it won't have the efficiency and meet current emissions regs. Not everyone wants to buy a car to tune it, some like to have a car with that performance out of the factory. These aren't designed for people that buy used cars only tbf.

@marcelzimkowski9380 4 жыл бұрын

You are awesome man! You made me more confident in getting my automotive engineering degree! Wish you the best and I hope we will meet in the future :D

@Tsagami 4 жыл бұрын

The Abarth 233 ATR 18S 1,759 cc Inline-four engine combined supercharging and turbocharging. The engine generated a maximum output of 490 PS (360 kW; 483 hp) but some sources even claim that the engine was capable of generating 507 PS (373 kW; 500 hp). In 1985, when Lancia engineers tested an S4 engine under extreme conditions, it developed around 1,014 PS (746 kW; 1,000 hp) at 5 bars of boost pressure.

@dmdaithim 4 жыл бұрын

Hadn't Mitsubishi a 400bhp engine years ago in the Evo. The FQ400. It was 2.0ltr also.

@dmdaithim 4 жыл бұрын

@Ross Bourne Yep. But it came to the market years ago.

@dmdaithim 4 жыл бұрын

@Ross Bourne got ya. 👍

@pk6336158 4 жыл бұрын

There got a 440bhp FQ440 so this video is misleading

@pk6336158 4 жыл бұрын

@@Ytytfytfujbyddutrxrt That`s isn`t the point bro

@dietznutz1 4 жыл бұрын

Yes but didn’t it require a rebuild every 6k miles or something it wasn’t a practical engine

@Dj.maddox89 4 жыл бұрын

Don't let this distract you from the fact that Hector is gonna be running 3 Honda Civic's with spoon engines. On top of that he just came into Harry's and ordered 3 t66 turbo's with NOS's and a Motec System Exhaust.

@berndbornhauser1423 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! You rock!

@ladamyre1 4 жыл бұрын

When you got to 8 minutes and was talking about the cylinder coating I was reminded of GM and the first Chevette engine with cylinders that were Teflon coated. They were a disaster. 10,000 miles and the customers were pulling into gas stations and saying, "Fill 'er up with oil and check the gas."

@AOTanoos22 4 жыл бұрын

ladamyre Mercedes is using this Nano slide technology on all of their engines since 2013, the previous a45 had it too, so it's really not the first time they do this. Also the Teflon coating is something entirely different.

@ladamyre1 4 жыл бұрын

@@AOTanoos22 I get it. I'm not complaining or criticizing, I just thought of it because I'm a retired ASE master Tech who was trained at the GM Training College in Atlanta and there are a lot of stories about the Chevette. That car probably cost GM a million future customers who will never, to this day, buy another GM made car.

@AOTanoos22 4 жыл бұрын

@@ladamyre1 yes i understand, thats very interesting as well

@glockmat 4 жыл бұрын

Koenigsegg: Who need for cilinders, I can make 600HP with 3

@not12listen 4 жыл бұрын

Also 2.0L of displacement...

@Julian-zh1nj 4 жыл бұрын

@amarjit singh yeah but you cant compare a racing engine with a street engine ( regulations, reliabily .... )

@AmRFuKYaH 3 жыл бұрын

@Amarjit Singh what?

@willriccio7524 3 жыл бұрын

Nice train wreck there Glock!

@sportscarnut 4 жыл бұрын

The 4-cyl turbocharged engines MB has are excellent, also very well balanced.

@sportscarnut 4 жыл бұрын

@Sandy Lee Clearly you have not driven a modern MB 2L turbocharged. - silky smooth.

@sportscarnut 4 жыл бұрын

@Sandy Lee Of course they are balanced to counter the natural imbalance. The point is MB does it extremely well. Power loss? Sure, but I am perfectly happy with the end result. And yes I have driven 4 cylinders from the '50s and I tell you... they were fun too! Fun can be found in many places.

@RobHTech 2 жыл бұрын

Cool vid. Thanks a lot. I didn't even know anything about this engine. very cool. Wonder how reliable it is.

@jrjon738 4 жыл бұрын

@engineering explained I just watched your "Open vs Locked Differential" from 2012, and to this, I just made it to 0:24 before I noticed you are WAAAAAAAYYYYY more passionate 8 years later haha!

@healthyhuman2360 4 жыл бұрын

My GLA45 has been making 440whp for the past 3 years. It’s my daily driver. Best 83k I’ve ever spent.

@madcap2003 4 жыл бұрын

Healthy Human yea me too!!

@Hitomaru-shiki.sensha 4 жыл бұрын

now if only they can make cars that dont fall apart so soon

@fidelcatsro6948 4 жыл бұрын

planned obsolescence amigo..

@erenkaslte8046 4 жыл бұрын

Nope.. Their just trying to make a sale.. most people will be trading it in 8 months later when the new one comes out..

@fidelcatsro6948 4 жыл бұрын

@@erenkaslte8046 mercedes charges 250dollars for a 25cents plastic dashboard switch...hehehe

@campkira 4 жыл бұрын

@@fidelcatsro6948 actually it more like a trap.... lure you in with nice sexy car and take all your money will all you got.. i just see brand new one that headlight already broken..

@fidelcatsro6948 4 жыл бұрын

@@campkira many buying them are already growing money on trees hehehe

@ritvikpatil4703 4 жыл бұрын

Just loved it man!!!!!

@everythingonline7983 4 жыл бұрын

u make very inforamative videos thanks

@caglioso 4 жыл бұрын

Really is kinda nuts when you look at cars like the Stinger or G70, which are awesome, but they’re using two turbos on a V6 to make roughly 50 less hp. Crazy.

@vali69 4 жыл бұрын

But the i4 engine with the best hp/l is an engine made by Kawasaki for their street illegal motorcycle, the ninja H2R which has a 1 liter supercharged engine witch makes around 310 horsepower... so a bit over 100hp/l more then the m139... also the bike is the fastest thing in a straight line u could buy for under 100k even beating an f1 car in a 1/4 mile race... too bad its illegal to ride it on the street... but at least we have the normal h2 which its engine is still supercharged and makes like 240hp i belive...

@MrElv94 4 жыл бұрын

@@nobba255 2019 h2 updated with 230 hp

@vali69 4 жыл бұрын

@UCBLpX-rZodBoM7G6JZYF5iA everything u said is kinda wrong... the h2r might have a lot of power but it isnt the best in the corner... definitely can not be compared to any motogp bikes... also the h2 makes 230hp... we were both wrong... also the a45 starts at 45k dollars... sooo like 5 grand less... but its a car... people wont buy it without adding options sooo... lets say they are the same price wise lol...

@vali69 4 жыл бұрын

@Peder Hansen more people die in cars so gtfo xD

@vali69 4 жыл бұрын

Also if u die on a bike its ur fault... u didnt see a guy run the red light, ur fault that u died because u didnt pay attention... its a survival of the fittest... or in this case... survival of the smartest... u know how to ride defensively (this should also apply when u drive but whatever) u wont go down that easily... if u dont ride like a maniac then u wont lowside and get hit by an upcoming car... if u die or crash on a bike its because of ur own stupidity and incompetence

@TheJeremy5599 4 жыл бұрын

The H2 is street legal in USA. The h2R is not street legal,and has more power.

@GT-bx1jp 4 жыл бұрын

Gr8 sketches and explanation.

@faustin289 4 жыл бұрын

Such enthusiasm talking about PSIs, i envy you man!

@blacklight4460 4 жыл бұрын

It's the turbo that's getting them the impressive 400+hp. BFD for that kind of money.

@ACERASPIRE1 4 жыл бұрын

WOW, you're so clever, do you work for MB?

@blacklight4460 4 жыл бұрын

Wow you're such a clever , judgmental douchenozzle . MB doesn't use turbo they use Kompressor. Every German car snob knows that's a lot better because it takes twice as many letters to spell it.

@dgiyee9483 4 жыл бұрын

Mitsubishi had 2 liter with 400hp over 10 years ago and nobody bats an eye, AMG releases 400hp 2L engine in 2019 and everybody lose their minds...

@faresdridi2746 4 жыл бұрын

it only worked for 50 miles wasn't reliable at all.

@nicholaspatino2427 4 жыл бұрын

People are blinded by brand names

@jondoe1310 4 жыл бұрын

AMG is over 400hp past Mitsubishi

@EngineeringExplained 4 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure people were stoked about the FQ 440 back in the day, I know I was. Just because something is current doesn't mean it has more hype.

@ristekostadinov2820 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are talking so much about that engine because mercedes started boasting everywere. Saleen is much smaller company and not so many people heard of them and they are not boasting about their 2.5L in house developed engine for the Saleen S1 450HP. Honda never slapped turbo on the s2000 i belive it could reach easly 400+HP, 240 NA.

@darylhagle8565 4 жыл бұрын

Outstanding engineering !

@dj_paultuk7052 4 жыл бұрын

I have an A45S on order, cannot wait for it to arrive. I have the older A45 FL as well. Amazing cars.

@ernodios 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing power, what about reliability?

@battlefielding 4 жыл бұрын

Yoseob Yang mercedes is usually good with that. but so many electrical components with the mercedes, everything ain’t gonna last 100k 😂

@donbrashsux 4 жыл бұрын

Keep your fingers crossed..

@jenningsmills5398 4 жыл бұрын

25yr old 4g63's are laughing hysterically!

@Kalvinjj 4 жыл бұрын

Impressive indeed, but truth be told, those, SR20DETs and alikes from Japanese crazy turbo cars of the 90s did it too but with very low compression and thus mileage on normal usage is quite terrible, not to mention emissions nowadays are another story

@Kalvinjj 4 жыл бұрын

@Nick Volkov "280hp" yeah let's believe their claims But yes the turbo lag was there indeed

@eddgrs9193 4 жыл бұрын

4g63 are... wait for it.... waaaait for the turbo.... laughing hysterically !

@ACERASPIRE1 4 жыл бұрын

Jenning, shut up you don't know what you are talking about

@pinytenis420 4 жыл бұрын

@@Kalvinjj sr20 is over hyped and b series from Honda are cheaper more available and just as strong if not songer in most cases not to mention aftermarket support and bulletproof trans 🤷‍♂️

@mrmorrisniceguy987 4 жыл бұрын

Great Video as always! Would love to see something about a Mclaren Engine!

@devisddf 4 жыл бұрын

Wow... Thank you!

@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

30 PSI. That was epic boost years ago. Now, manufacturers are doing it. Awesome, how long will those engines last? Hmmm?

@gwagb27 4 жыл бұрын

ricky v at least for the warranty duration

@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

@@gwagb27 That's what the warranty is for yeah.

@JingleBombzz 4 жыл бұрын

Quite long, you saw all the strengthening to the block...

@WarriorsPhoto 4 жыл бұрын

Jingle YaBombz I agree with you. It is a Mercedes Benz engine. (:

@tomasnokechtesledger1786 4 жыл бұрын

Mercedes and Toyotas don't meme short lived engines.

@genejones02 4 жыл бұрын

Impressive for a 4 banger. They took some of the best attributes of the SR20DET and perfected it. I don't know about the longevity at 30psi, but I'd love to see one in action

@wireflight 4 жыл бұрын

That Twin Wire Arc Technology is impressive!

@JohnSmith-xn5mq 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, as always great representation. So many good things going on here: twin scroll with roller bearings, closed deck, high boost, port/DI injection, exhaust rotated to the firewall (heat is pushed out of the engine bay naturally), but there's always have to be something to hold it back. With all the effort and no iron sleeves? Cutting corners everywhere. Time will tell, but I'm skeptical. Haven't seen those to hold up. I bet it has one piece low friction oil rings too. I see it start burning oil before 50k miles and dealer of course is going to say it's normal.

@yahtadi5152 2 жыл бұрын

No need for Iron sleeving. Honda K series with $300 Cylinder Support System will hold down that same boost, better even. This Merc just made exact that from factory Sleeving just sinkin down over time

@brysonshires9742 4 жыл бұрын

I just wish someone would pump that much boost through a high displacement, dohc V8

@GewelReal 4 жыл бұрын

Koeniggsegg?

@01firstlast 4 жыл бұрын

Beat me to it

@63DW89A 4 жыл бұрын

The Indy Cosworth V8 2.65L tried but had difficulty finishing 500 mile races if boosted above 750 HP. The Offenhauser 2.65 L 4 cylinder, on the other hand, ran reliably at 1000+ HP, as the simple 4 cyl was anvil-tough and totally reliable. By the mid-70's the Offy's were rule-booked down to less than 800 HP, plus not allowed to upgrade to electronic fuel injection, so that the Cosworth V8 could "win" by the better efficiency of its electronic fuel injection. The Offy's could still dominate the Cosworth's during a race, but would run out of fuel and not be able to finish the race. On a level playing field, the Offy 4 cylinder literally blew the Cosworth V8 off the track!

@Turkish4224 4 жыл бұрын

how about reliability? until this is proven I still have more respect for the naturally aspirated Honda S2000 engine - I know a few that have over 150k km, no major issues

@arthurhenriquemendesberte2228 4 жыл бұрын

It is a Mercedes, mate. Reliability is their surname. There are a few Mercedes vehicles with MORE than a million km on their counters, just with the needed replacings and maintenances.

@torrhthc4103 4 жыл бұрын

Those are diesel.

@arthurhenriquemendesberte2228 4 жыл бұрын

@@torrhthc4103 wrong. There are a couple of them which are gasoline. We have one here on Brazil.

@ttltm 4 жыл бұрын

@@arthurhenriquemendesberte2228 *WAS* their surname. Nowdays it's all about keeping the market fed, ain't nobody got time for reliable cars that last past 10 years or past 250k km.

@arthurhenriquemendesberte2228 4 жыл бұрын

@@ttltm funny thing, most of Mercedes cars I see these days get that reliability for sure. With basic maintenance, oil changes and such. If you keep it running as Mercedes tells you to, it last ages.

@benfl9636 3 жыл бұрын

Man this thing will be running HOT

@FalconXE302 4 жыл бұрын

I love the way you say Turbo chugre... Great vid Jason... You definitely are the White Board master.

@LawrenciuM709 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder how that cylinder lining holds up with miles though, cause it sounds too good to be true

@richieb74 4 жыл бұрын

In a racing application that would go to the 80s bmw f1 engine. 1500 HP out of a 1.5 litre engine. That’s a 1000 HP per litre! FTW!!!

@WifeBTR123 4 жыл бұрын

375 hp per cylinder! I'd drive a 375hp 1 cyl car

@rudolfabelin383 4 жыл бұрын

Dear Engineering Explained. You make fantastic videos!!! I have not seen this video, but my answer on question number one is Offerhauser LOL Best Regards Rudolf ME

@pmaxgen 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the nice video, Pls do a video about Mercedes M282 engine as well.

@funnydubby6401 4 жыл бұрын

How long will the headgaskets and connecting rod last you think?

@cesargallo7424 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, these engines do not seem to be made to use you car like an Uber. If you beat them (and 400hp ask for beating) probably ar engines for 50k miles

@jimmyaber5920 4 жыл бұрын

Please give drive pressure vs boost. I’m curious to REALLY see how good they engineered this powerplant. Admitting port injectors are to deal with intake valve deposits goes against “best or nothing” speak. Let’s discuss Nanoslide after a rad hose spits off while underway......

@ryan.crosby 4 жыл бұрын

Port injectors also increase the amount of time that the fuel has to mix, and increase the amount of fuel that you can inject outright. Many high performance engines, including aftermarket setups, use both at once. The fact that the port injectors remove intake valve deposits is a nice longevity bonus so it makes sense to mention it.

@kdkd693 4 жыл бұрын

Ryan Crosby plus reduce intake air temp through latent heat evap

@WayneMcKenzie 4 жыл бұрын

The best bit is the reduction in friction via TWA, the rest is old school revhead stuff, big boost, big valves, big fuel.

@long-timelistenerfirst-t-us2yy 4 жыл бұрын

*hey ... that sounds handy ... APP DOWNLOADED!*

@Gryphus-R 4 жыл бұрын

Imagine bolting this engine to a Miata 👀

@miketurco5282 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have any reference data on roller bearing vs. journal bearing turbos in terms of improved spool? I've hear, mostly anecdotally that journal bearings, given they essentially float on a layer of oil, can spool just as quickly as ball bearing. But all the data seems biased.

@jasonsun3695 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Mike! Recent mech eng grad here. Bearing selection is actually quite a complicated thing and was absolutely boring to learn. The largest supplier NSK has a website that gives a bit of insight on how to make these selections. You were right on how journal bearings work. They are what we call hydrodynamic bearings. Though a common issue with journal bearings is at start up in abscence of oil pressure, you have the journals scratch the bearing walls and create additional load and wear. For a ball bearing that should be less of an issue. Furthermore. Ball bearings have a finite life whereas journal bearings theoretically have infinite life and wear very little. Another fun fact is that journal bearings are more expensive to make and cost more to maintain. But they are also less loud too. And lastly journal bearings require more axial space to package and ball bearings require more radial space. That one doesn't matter too much for turbos.

@miketurco5282 4 жыл бұрын

@@jasonsun3695 Hey Jason! thanks for the detailed reply! Interesting info. To go back to my original question I still wonder what the spool data looks like. Given your confirmation on how journal bearings work, I still wonder which application would hit top RPM faster. I would assume that the CF on a journal bearing, aside from startup, might be less than ball bearing but I'm guessing here. I'll check out NSK's website, might be some data there.

@jasonsun3695 4 жыл бұрын

@@miketurco5282 ahhh. Well spool is just generally a function of friction at startup. Ball bearings do have less friction at startup due to less contact area and constant lubricant presence. The data on rpms graphs you might have to look for turbo manufacturers. They would do those testings

@eduardofranciscato4143 3 жыл бұрын

Very thanks for this video. Please, I'd like to know if there is anything special about the oil pump. Thank you.

@need100k 2 жыл бұрын

I drive a 2018 Mercedes Metris cargo van with a turbocharged 2 liter 4 cylinder, and it moves like a strong 6 cylinder. Very impressive and it has exactly half the horsepower of the engine he's talking about here.