Interesting video, as a volunteer instructor we advise trainees on this subject as early in their training as CBT. We also teach about peripheral vision. When a car is wanting to pull out into a major road from a minor road the driver will look left and right (well should do) there may be a car, van or lorry approaching and decide they have time to pull out but not notice the bike in front of it, their vision is fixated on the larger vehicle in the distance. When I see a car wanting to pull out from my left I change my riding position to position 3 from 2, I.E. from centre of my lane to closer to the central line in the road. That way the driver doesn't have to turn there head as much to see you, they first catch a glimpse out the corner of their eye and then full vision as their head continues to turn.

As a former Roads Policing Officer my opinion is, if by wearing high viz you get a sense of self reassurance then wear high viz but never become complacent. The general standard of driving in the UK is alarming. Ride defensively, always ride your own ride and do not be coerced by others to exceed your ability.

For me I wear a white helmet, I wear a hi-viz/reflective vest in low light or night riding, I ride assuming I am invisible at all times, when approaching a junction with vehicle(s) pulling out, I glance at the wheels to see if they are moving, I also like to get brief eye contact with the driver(s) if possible. Another important discipline is to not drive too close to the vehicle in front. Bottom line is to use every means to anticipate, which will enable yourself every opportunity to avoid or stop. Ride safe all

Hi vis on other bikers caught my eye while those that didn't would disappear, as myself who has all black gear and mostly ride at night I realised how invisible I really was and now use hi vis. I think today's world listens to what a screen says over current events, get out and read the road

The gorilla test is a perfect comparison. Car drivers aren't scanning for motorbikes. They are scanning for cars. When my brother was learning to drive a car, I taught him NOT to scan for cars, but only for bicycles. That technique makes you scan all of the road, including the gutter channels. It's also a good technique for pedestrians.

From what I was taught when I did some advanced driving lessons was that, drivers don't look for hazards they just don't see a car. They see a gap in the road and don't look. After I had learned this, I adjusted my riding to counter the unexpected. Coming to pass a junction, I would back off the throttle, prepare to brake and give myself as much clear line of sight as possible. If I wasn't sure a car had seen me, I'd use my horn after all that's what it's for. I know this isn't fool proof but being prepared for a situation gives you more time to react and hopefully escape to safety.

On a Bike Safe course a trainer told me one of simplest ways to be seen by emerging cars is to move your position on approach. A static positioned bike gets looked past, if you alter your position, a car is more likely to spot the movement. The other issue I have encountered in my job is that a lot of older drivers just can’t see properly, as a glasses wearer I have my eyes tested every two years, this should be mandatory for all road users

You are spot on Saffy. I say to myself each time I go for a ride. "No one will see me, so I have to see everyone. I'm invisible!" At least it works for me, just to remember. 🙂

I work in breakdown and accident recovery and a lot of the time the first thing you will hear at an accident is either I wasn't spending. Or i didn't see it/ them/ that . Human error is nearly always the top reason usually in combination with conditions, road surface light weather natural or other obstructions to visibility. Working at the side of a motorway we obviously have to use hi viz, h & S , insurance etc and yet we still get close calls normally people rubber necking. There is no doubt a clean hi viz jacket or vest makes you stand out but once a person jumps in a car sets the heat and which music to listen too, taking to passengers or thinking about anything rather than concentrating on driving Then accidents happen , hiviz or not. ridiculing a rider for using it is a bit childish as is telling others they should If they don't, it's a personal choice if you feel safer go for it if you don't, don't. Like any thing in life when you break it down, living is a dangerous occupation .

Amazing video! Thank you for putting this out there and for all your hard work and frustration.

RyanF9 on FortNine channel did a video about the crashes in junctions a couple months ago; "How Pigeons Explain a Common Motorcycle Crash". Interesting watch in itself. Apparently there are two big reasons. First, a lot of drivers turn their heads so little that they actually see the crossing road with only one eye, making noticing and evaluating distance and speed of approaching objects harder. Second, motorcycles are tall and narrow shaped when looked from the front which makes them harder to spot to begin with, but also makes their size appear pretty much the same until they are close.

Hi Saffy, I have an Oxford High Visibility Waistcoat with elasticated sides and a front zip, with an airtex lining. It hugs my body shape, doesn't flap about and it feels 'snug'. I find the cheaper ones annoying when they blow about and they must annoy other road users as well. I wear textile jackets which tend to have grey or red panels on a black base colour. If the kit makes me more visible it is a bonus, especially from the side or flank and I move about on the road to increase my visibility when approaching hazards. After 50 years of riding, all I can say is it works for me. Hi Vis has not always been available. It's a matter of personal choice that I would never wear all black. If what I do helps others to see me, the effort has been worth it. Stay safe.

When it is absolute horrid weather, yes they work, my waterproof is completely yellow from a mountain shop, two sizes up and fits well over my motorcycle jackets

Oooh. One of your best videos yet! I love how you look at it objectively instead of just plastering yourself with hi-viz and telling the audience it’s for safety. Objective and nicely researched….well done

There is a great Fortnine KZfaq video on “why” motorists don’t see bikes, I’d suggest everyone watches it. My view on it as a 35 year commuter into London is that they cannot hurt therefore I wear one. If it stops one traffic cop noting “not wearing hi-viz” in his notebook as you are carted away in an ambulance and the subsequent insurance questions, that’s good enough for me.

When the glasses come on, you know it's go time. Great video, Saf. One of your best yet. Really informative!

I was told not so long ago that because the yellow hi viz is so common place these days that people just don't see or ignore it and that if your going to wear any hi viz the pink one is the better option

As a former police motorcycle officer I found that driving with my highbeams during daytime did lower the amount of cars pulling out in front of me. Also I found having additional rear & side lighting helped tremendously, especially if you are riding a bike that has the traditional single rear taillight.

The copper teaching the BikeSafe session I attended made an interesting point. If you are going to wear high-viz, then make it big. Like a rain jacket that is just one big block of colour. Vests, belts and multi-coloured clothing break up your outline, and can make you less visible. He also recommended pink rather than yellow or green. He showed photos to prove it. He also said that If you want to make yourself seen, make sure you are moving across the car driver's line of sight - so you are moving across the background as he sees it. The way you do that is to make sure, from your perspective, that the background behind him is moving relative to his position. If this is already the case, do nothing. If his background is static, start moving across the lane. Also, the first clue you have that he is pulling out is when you see his wheels start to rotate. You will notice this before you notice the general motion of the car. If you don't have time to get all this sorted in a particular situation, you are riding too fast. All that said, most people will see you whatever. Some people won't. Maybe high-viz shifts that number in your favour, but it won't be 100%. So, everyone, get on that advanced riding course anyway. You know, the one you've been thinking of for the last few months....

Been waiting for your video all day lol good stuff x

seems to me the highest point and usually the first visible is the helmet coming towards you - a bright helmet is a must. Riding lights also work for me - overall hi viz optional. My pet hate is black jacket, black trousers, black bike....

I have been riding bike for 47yrs+and have never worn a hi-viz jacket....and never will !!

Great video Saffy, well researched.❤

The bikers super power of invisibility! A quick experiment to try at home, hold your hand straight out in front of your face (in your line of sight) now, without moving your hand, turn your head to look to your left, next turn your head to look to your right. The question is when scanning from left to right did you really see your hand? Exactly what a car driver sees (or doesn't) when looking to pull out from a junction. I know scary isn't it?

I ride a yellow bike, with a jacket that has the safety vest color strip about 3 inches wide on the torso and the arms at about chest height and then down the arms on a black background. They still don't see you, sometime people are just in a bubble when they are in a car.

Morning Saffy, i have only recently discovered your blogs and have binged watch so many i cant count :D content is amazing and i love the detail you go into compared to other bloggers, ive had to many close calls with other vehicles not seeing me, i have pin stripe wheels built in hi-vis reflectors on my jacket bright luminous helmet ans still not seen, i often wounder why other countrys are able to customise there motorbikes so much more than we can, i like the idea of having leds on my bike (not flashing) but enough to catch the eye of other vehicles and be seen :D loving the content keep up the amazing work :D :D

For me I notice many workers on the road due to their reflective gear way far compared to plane clothes. I understand that real world problems are multi dimensional and translating them to statistics are not as easy. However the Hi-Vis did help me notice others on the road, so I wear it thinking others will have a higher chance to notice me.

The research is interesting on hi-vis. In built-up areas the yellow hi-vis is much less effective than pink hi-vis. The reason for this is the proliferation of yellow hi-vis in these areas. It's almost become so commonplace that we cognitively disregard the cues.

Good material. But the best method in my opinion is to observe how the driver's are driving. And be always ready for that one who wants to hit me.

A couple of years ago I saw the optical illusion of a friend on an adventure bike disappear in bright sunlight against a green hedge. In my work w are are required to wear hi viz in certain areas. After this incident we went to pink hi viz. our studies showed us that pink stood out far better than any other. Oddly I’ve found that if I go into the hi viz areas at work without hi viz the H&S police always see me. I do wear a pink hi viz on my bike. There’s been a few too many smidsys in my life, one resulting in injuries, the rest just being close calls.

Banksy - the well known stealth artist, says that one way to avoid people noticing you (important in his occupation) is to wear a hi-vis jacket.

Hi Saffy, I think it's one of those subjects with so many reasons for motorists failing to see motorcyclists that are approaching, if it's broken down logically the more you can make yourself, and your motorcycle visible the lesser the chance of being missed. But unfortunately even with all those precautions in place we are still missed. It then puts the onus back on the motorcyclist to be even more observant in identifying the threats you face reading the road ahead and taking the appropriate measures to reduce your own risk. It should not have to be like this, but it is a fact we are very vulnerable. But motorcycles are amazing and I for one are willing to take that risk for the sheer pleasure it gives me. PS a white crash helmet is best. Thanks Saffy very interesting

There is a phenomenon called "Hi-Vis clutter" which says that there are so many road users, Police, Ambulance, Fire, Road Workers, Road Signs etc, etc that are dressed up in Hi Vis that we as motorcyclists become effectively invisible amongst it all.

You can never eliminate all accidents, but you can reduce the number, and outcome of them. People still die in car accidents despite wearing a seat belt, but not in the same number as without.

as someone that had to wear hi viz at work on the railway I have found that in the countryside on long relatively straight sections especially at night it works, but the road is not the railway, hi viz is just another colour on the road amongst a multitude of colours and goes unnoticed for the most part, especially in towns and cities, also if they are not looking they are not going to see any sort of colour anyway, also whatever you wear it doesn't show up when there is a bend or objects restricting what can be seen, in other words we can't see around corners, there is also an argument that the eye picks up on black and dark objects as it stands out as a negative space to the eyes and subconscious, arguments for and against but these are my real world observations as someone who has had to use hi viz, I have always ridden with my lights on and that is enough for me, if they don't see my lights then they are not going to see anything else because they obviously aren't looking

Great vid.. Thank you & keep it up.

I think CBT training should be part of a car license.

I remember when Volvo first started displaying day time running lights. My boss complained about this “stupid” New feature and each time he saw one he moaned about it. My only comment was you haven’t missed seeing one yet!

The reasoning behind Hi-Viz is related to peoples ability to perceive difference between colours and it depends how many colour receptors a persons eyes have. The idea is that a drivers attention may be caught with Hi-Viz as the colour is very different to the surroundings and to limit how much a rider blends in to the background. Hi-Viz is not supposed to counter inattentional blindness. It can only help to prevent accidents involving difficulty seeing a motorcyclist against a the background. The reason that 12% still had accidents would be because a Hi-Viz vest does not aid prevention of all types of accident. The simple answer is that Hi-viz vests are worth wearing because they may help to prevent a specific type of accident which helps to lower overall risk but it is the riders choice whether they do or don't.

Hi Saffy, new to your site and really enjoy the videos. I like to look of your what looks like gel seat. I own a 2003 Africa twin which I love but the seat makes my poor bum numb after only an hour's riding, it's so uncomfortable!! Don't want to replace the whole thing, can you tell me where you got yours from please? ps. you ought to come to Southern France to ride, empty roads and lovely scenery and NO potholes. Take care and stay safe!

I do not wear them, however i have choosen to buy a light grey jacket, a blue helm, and a black motorcycle, so i am hoping the contrast works. As for intersections, i also did the research where i live, and got to the same result. The 2 biggest accident brackets are intersections and driving to fast or overjudging your own ability. So for intersections i always try to see if a driver makes "eye-contact" (ie. looking in my direction), if i am unshure, i start to weave, when its possible (i read that that unusual movement makes them more aware), if i am still unsure release throttle or tap front brake slightly to slow down - so that i can do an emergency stop in an appropiate timefrime or have an escape root, in the case it he pulls out. And yes, every ride i train a full emergency stop. (sidestory: even after you got your drivers licence here where i live (austria) , you have to do 2 courses after half a year. The first one is like a technical day on closed track. We did emergency brakes there, and out of all the 10 people my stopping distance was (by a long run) the best (on all different speeds). He asked me how i was doing so well, i said i train every time i go for a ride (exept commuting). Was a pretty good feeling to know, that these self training things really help (thanks motojitsu!). thanks for your video, ride safe saffy. o/

In one interesting, though informal, 1-week test I read about, years ago, the most-favored protection for bikers seemed to be gained by riding a white bike with windshield and wearing gear that resembles that of motorcycle cops in your area. I would simply go with a Hi-Viz helmet.

Looking but not seeing is what I've always called it. Years ago I fitted a rear fog light to my gs550 as I was fed up of cars nearly ramming me off on the way to work in low visibility.

Where I live on the Isle of Wight . Wearing high vis does work especially in the Summer when we have droves of grockles descending on us ( they suffer from , I’m on holiday syndrome. Why should I look where I going I’m relaxing etc 😂😂) I’ve found that as taught by my iam . Make yourself seen when approaching a side junction.weave a bit , from area 2 to four , it catches the car drivers eye and of course cover you’re brakes .ps great vlog 😊😊👍👍

If they can't see a headlight approaching, it doesn't matter what you're wearing, it might as well be a clown suit. The only way I've survived over 50 years of riding is by always assuming they haven't seen me and preparing to take evasive action. Even that hasn't always worked, as my x-rays will show.

Hi Saffy As an HGV Driver for 40 years Hi Viz jacket, the better you can be seen the safer the biker will be,it's human error the amount of people just drive out of side roads, they don't even look, sitting in an HGV you can see this from where we sit !!!

I really enjoyed watching this Saffy ...great info. :D #Lane

I agree that the surveys are confusing, so I go by what my brain processes; I tend to see fluorescent jackets when I am navigating landscapes - one worker wearing one in a group will stand out from the rest. For this reason, I always wear a yellow or orange fluorescent jacket when riding, as well as a white or yellow helmet. But, such is my confidence of other road users to see me, I always ride as if am wearing black clothes on a bike with no lights...and use the other techniques mentioned in the comments. I think the statistics make it worth wearing a fluorescent jacket.

Good food-for-thought vid Saf. Like what has been said by others, attitudes towards driving / riding has changed for the worse for sure. I think the best we can do is don’t assume, don’t just think I have the right of way. No point shouting he was in the wrong as your being rushed into A & E with a brain bleed. Wear a high vis, make sure your headlight is big and bright, fit auxiliary lights. Assume no one has seen you, watch cars wheels at junctions are they moving or stationary, move to lane position 3 if it’s safer to do so as you approach junctions. Touch wood everyone gets home safely 👍

very intresting and some food for thought right there.

Always ride as if you’re completely invisible. Even if a driver is staring your direction, assume you’re an invisible rider. This helps me prepare for the unexpected. I don’t ride besides a car assuming they’ll change lanes without warning. I space myself from the vehicle ahead in case they brake suddenly. Giving yourself a few more seconds to react may mean the difference of giving you more years to live.

TBH I worked for Road Safety and when having a chat with people who are completing their CBT or even DAS mod1 &2 it was always mentioned to try to wear a hiviz vest or Hiviz jacket. We always mentioned that most motorist are bike blind so you could be a all in one flashing beacon riding a bike and they will still not see. So it’s up to you. I wear adventure clothing which is bright and have flashes of neon yellow and still motorists miss me. Nice channel by the way

Nice. Well done video.

good vid saffy and well said i also think some car drivers just don't care they pull out etc knowing full well they have cut the bike up

Hi Salty - Great Vid. I wear a leather bikers jacket with a reflective vest over it or I don't pilot my Beauty. I use a loud horn and also flash driving lights when needed. I also believe that loud pipes save lives. About the Stats, running wide , and head-ons, or the majority of bike accidents, are a matter of competence and not reflective jackets - Im looking forward to more great vids of yours - Ride well -

I have very occasionally worn a hi-viz, but more because I've felt a slight chill as I'm returning home, and it happened to be in my tail bag! With hardwired lighting on bikes now being pretty much standard, it does come down to those road users that aren't also bikers (and some that are!) not looking at the road anywhere near as closely as they should! I have always felt that post car driving test, you should have to complete at least the CBT, to understand how life on 2 wheels is, and hopefully instill into other road users that instead of barely seeing beyond the end of their own bonnet, you know what is happening in-front of the bonnet of that car that has just gone round a bend 1/2 a mile up ahead! I was always taught when learning to ride to not only look at that car at the junction, but actively stare at the driver's eyes, as that instinctively triggers a reaction in their brain of your presence....and if they still don't notice you, physical gestures are required, as they cannot hear what you are calling them! 😁

Great video. My 2 cents- I purchased a Helite airbag vest that also happens to be hi viz. I don’t wear it all the time as I found it far too hot to wear in Australian summers. What I have found when I do wear the vest is that I am more visible to drivers, however as the drivers can clearly see me they pull out in front of me anyway! I think this is the missing piece of the puzzle in the data you mentioned where 12% of riders in accidents are wearing hi viz. I find the same thing when driving my car which is a grey colour. If I use my headlights during the day I get people pulling out in front of me because they CAN see me. I’m still undecided about the benefits of hi viz but leaning towards good road positioning and using the bikes headlight flasher as I approach cars on side streets as a better option. For wet weather and night time riding I would add hi viz to the mix.

Hi Saffy I do have fluorescent panels on my otherwise black jacket just because I think every little helps. But! Wow I watched the invisible gorilla and that does make you think.what you have to do to be seen. My mantra is to treat everyone else on the road with great suspicion and expect the worst and ride accordingly. Ride safe and enjoy . All the best Marc 👍👍

I'd agree with other commentors that Hi-Viz in the rain is a wise choice. There are so many variables regarding a 2 vehicle crash that it's easy to say "if only...." there might have been a different outcome. Biker's experience a higher danger level than most people's life experience but if your numbers up it's up :) People die in car accidents every day yet there is far less emphasis on RTA's for cars as there deamed "safer than bikes". It's an interesting topic, Great video Saffy.

Most people don't "judge" speed. They look for a tiny split-second, they see how far away an object is and assume whether they can or can't go. It takes about a second of observing an object to remotely figure out how fast it's coming at you (less if you have more information and training, i.e. in sports) and you just don't get that sort of time when you only allow yourself a quick glance. This is where speed limits, particularly in towns, come in handy. Contrary to what the anti-speed lobby insist on, slower isn't better. What's important is consistency. You get used to the speed of traffic in areas you frequent, so 9 times out of 10 not taking the time to judge an approaching object's speed is fine - your brain already has a map of that view and it knows where is far enough and where is too close. Same goes for roundabouts, etc. When you have a small object approaching you at say twice the usual speed on that road, your brain can't tell the difference in that split-second glance. All it knows is "far enough away - GO!". But it wasn't far enough away... Not at twice that speed. You get the same exact issue on motorways, by the way. People are expecting that if you're about to overtake them, you'll be approaching at a certain slightly higher speed than what they're doing. Typically overtaking traffic could be going up to 85mph with no issues. Any faster than that though, and one runs into the same issue - the approaching traffic appears far enough away for one to pull out into the next lane up, except that guy's doing 130 and he's right on top of you before you've completed the lane change. That's where it's the speeders' responsibility to look far enough ahead, anticipate other road users' behaviour and have a backup plan for every eventuality. And to not go faster than they can see. Most boy racers don't have that level of judgement and aren't particularly interested in learning. That'd be where the main "speed kills" issue stems from. In my opinion, a much more effective solution (than speed cameras) to this particular problem would be to introduce a "high speed" extension to the driving license, renewed every 6 or 12 months, entitling those of us who can demonstrate the required level of judgement to fully exercise the needle on the speedo where conditions permit (and there's no local speed limit in place).

Ride like your invisible, because nobody is going to see you. My wake up moment to this was when I still had my ZX-10R, I was on a four lane road and sitting in the left lane at a stop light and the driver of the car to my right rolls down his window and he and his girlfriend compliment my bike for a good 10 to 15 seconds. The light turns green and I'm still right beside his window, no sooner than we get through the intersection he begins to merge into me. I tap his shoulder as his window is still down and scare the shit out of him, I give him a universal WTF gesture as he swerves back into the right lane. The driver knew I was there, we had a brief conversation. He still tried to merge into me.

@2:00 the reason they did that is because insurance companies would do ANYTHING to not pay the insurance. I don't wear high viz jackets, I do however wear a very light grey jacket and a white helmet and my rain gear has high viz parts.

I speak from the perspective of a former driver instructor, and police officer who has attended to numerous traffic collisions. I heard a rumour, once, on some internet moto forum, that if one wears a hi vis jacket, and a white helmet, on a motorcycle, the vast majority of drivers in the western world take a second, third, and fourth look at you... Because they are programmed to look out for the motorcycle traffic cop. I have no idea on the any stats behind this, but I can speak to my anecdotal observations: Car drivers think I'm the police, and slow down near me. I will still, always, assume that I am invisible on my motorcycle, because I do understand physics, and injuries, and I want to make it home safely to my wife and child, every day. Also, should I survive a non-fatal incident vs a car, I can stand in civil court and show the "reasonable man" what I was wearing, and what my video cameras showed the other road user doing, as they hit me. Hi vis is NOT perfect, and never will be - But it is a tool in the tool box. Sent from western Canada. Ride safe, all.

There was an inquiry about 10 years back in Victoria/Australia into compulsory wearing Hi-Vis on a motorcycle,the findings found that wearing Hi-Vis in cities and towns on a motorcycle, that there is so much Hi-Vis already being worn by construction workers and a multitude of other outdoor workers on the street that wearing Hi-vis on a motorcycle in these areas was of no advantage, in fact the rider tended to blend in with hi-vis workers, there by making the motorcycle invisible

I was looking at fashion options for a summer vest. It gets warm. In the cooler weather I have a leather vest.

Ryan at Fortnine did a great video a few months ago on why driver dont see motorcyclists

I've learned something today. Glasses on = prepare for statistics!!

Thank you for an informed and intelligent upload on the subject. Statistics can be so misleading. If, for example, 80% of car drivers injured in accidents ARE wearing a seatbelt might make you think seatbelts are dangerous. However, when you consider 99% of drivers wear seatbelts you can see the 1% not wearing a seatbelt are FAR MORE likely to be injured in a collision than a driver wearing their seatbelt. (The % quoted are for illustration only)

I look at it this way. If a TMA safety wehicle can get hit with all those flashing lights and bright colour. Me wearing a Hi-Vis west on the bike makes no difference. I just put it in my sidebag for the reason of wearing it if I break down at night.

Excellent video, I'm sure most of us have some form of high viz in the garage. Something to think about as well is the colour of your crash helmet? Do Police Officers where white helmets without research? Also look at positions (1-2-3) in approaching hazards?

I have a vest, I tend to work dark clothing and only use one when weather is poor, to to add an element of more visibility.

As always, great vid, and what a topic, certainly got some discussions going. We use this 'gorilla' video you mentioned in work, only call it 'human factors' and 'situational awareness' under a Team Resource Management banner (NHS). Surprising how many drivers have absolutely no idea of what is going on outside of their vehicle, especially when they wonder across lanes at roundabouts etc. and that's without them fiddling, arguing with the kids or on their mobile.

Ride your ride, do what makes you feel safe. There's no correct 100% safe way to ride a motorbike, we just do what works for us. I've got a mate who rides an R1 in shorts, t shirt and old trainers - he's never had an accident, so maybe he's the one who's doing it right. I'm no safety expert, you just called me by name and I answered!

Good video and a topic which will split the biking community. Hi Vis is good, the problem is that everyone is so used to seeing standard Hi Vis that it no longer stands out. I ride a black bike which is not great at being spotted, however i wear a bright orange helmet and a very yellow Hi vis vest the 2 clash so badly you can not help but spot it. The more unusual the colours the more noticeable you become, having said that if you are right up the exhaust pipe of the vehicle in front of you then no matter how much hi vis you wear you are blocked from anyone else’s view. Ride defensively, give space between yourself and any other vehicles ahead of you. Change your positioning on the road, we have the advantage of being more manoeuvrable. When approaching a junction slow down, change position to allow for a driver to have a better view of you, the change in positioning should alert them to your presence. Assume no one sees you and think for them, as far as most car, van and lorry divers go they are the only users of the road. There are courses out the run you the Police (Road Safe) and the Fire Service (Fire Bike) they are worth doing and will give you lots of new information and advice. Ride safe, be seen and have fun 👍

I think your conclusion is right, this week during about 20 miles driving my Car two Cars have pulled out in front of me and three pedestrians have stepped into the road in front of me, one with a dog so you don't even need a motorcycle to prove 'unintentional blindness' is simply intentional bad driving, presumably the pedestrians are the same they just don't have a Car yet. I think my first lesson in training back in 1979 was 'never trust anyone else on the road' so I had it covered 43 years ago, the only time I wore a hi-vis vest. I also saw a driver today wait for my wheels to turn in to a left turn before he pulled out although I was indicating left so he obviously rode a motorcycle or was trained to drive safely and applied the same basic rule to me, a list of good driving is probably slightly longer for those same 20 miles.

Hello Saffy, enjoying your posts immensely. I have a bright yellow KLR 650, Red Helmet, silver AVD suite with reflective strips and I am still invisible to so many cage ( lack of control ) drivers. You tuber Ryan Fortnine has a great post from the 13/10/2018, Titled :Invisibility Training for Motor Cyclists. My own work experience from 30 years working on Fuel Stations in Western Australia, repairing the petrol and Diesel pumps, wearing Hi- Vic is, it is the norm, so it does not stand out. If everyone wore pink boots, how long would it be before no one noticed ? Looking forward to your future VLOGGS.

Well Miss Saffron, it must have been like banging your head against a brick wall trying make sense of any of these recommendations. The headlight one comes to mind. When I first started riding in 1964, no helmets or protective clothing as such and certainly no headlights on continuously. The headlight thing has cancelled itself out, as every vehicle now has them on all the time. Of course, people using their mobile phones whilst driving is a concern. A woman coming around a bend whilst on a mobile phone, nearly took me out when I was riding my old Honda, luckily, I swerved out of the way. All the best😊👍🏍

Same in Ireland so many close calls, near mises

ORANGE hi vis works better for bikes. Especially in Europe with its leafy surroundings. Yellow can blend in. As many lights as are legal on your bike A white helmet Change position if approaching cars coming out of junctions (a driver is more likely to see an object move out of position in peripheral vision) As loud an exhaust as is legal/you can get away with. Keep your distance from vehicles Give WAY more distance than you think you need to stop while braking Assume NOBODY can see you If filtering, do so very slowly, you’ll still get where you’re going faster than any car in the line of traffic. You do not need to speed. You’re not Rossi, you don’t need to be travelling at ridiculous speeds , don’t need 58degree lean angles etc.

Yes i teach my students to be as visable as possible, ftom high viz to road position etc. However the way i see it is, car drivers aren't even looking for cars, they're looking for the gaps between them for the space they want. Another way to see it, is the smaller the object the harder it is to see and the harder it is to judge its speed and distance. I specifically asked the boss for a pink hiviz for work as in my opinion its the most uncommon colour on the road.

If you can be seen you are invisible. If you are invisible you can be seen 🤷‍♂️ I’m 6’6 and wore a hi-viz jacket in winter on my walk to get the train for work, every morning 6am I would get to the zebra crossing by the station and drivers would not see me waiting to cross. But if I was in full black they would stop every time? 🤷‍♂️

Really depends if the driver was looking in the first place, Drivers don't tend to be looking around with an image of a motorbike in there mind either, unlike a car which is more common in most countries & simply don't see us. I have rode both with & without Hi-Vis. I really don't notice any difference in driver behavior. The best Hi-Vis safety "equipment" is to assume you are invisible. In 33 yrs of riding I have had 1 collision T boning a pickup that pulled out (no indication) from the side of the road blocking both lanes. While he was at fault, I looked at what mistake I may have made & concluded that it was assuming he had seen me. Stay safe.

I hate the damn things.. if someone cant see you on a motorcycle with a bright crash helmet, reflector strips on your gear and head lights on then a jacket probably wont save you

This has been going on for years and years. Unfortunately not everybody in the world is not nice, so look after yourself out there. How polite this sentence is LOL. Great vid, love it when your serious 😍

My thoughts are this… most drivers only care about themselves. Today I was traveling on a dual carriage way and a motorway, keeping a safe (2 second distance) from the vehicle in front. On three occasions I was undertaken by multiple cars. So they had seen me because they moved into the near side rather than driving into me, but didn’t care enough to ease off and give me any space. This happens every single time I’m on a multi-lane road, either on a motorcycle, a motorhome, a car or a van towing a trailer. The same for junctions. In fact in the bigger the vehicle I drive the more likely someone is to pull out on me! Either the driving test/instruction needs to change or people’s attitudes to other people (road users).

Hey. Love your adventures and misadventures 🫶🏻 I’ve learnt so much including what not to do ☺️ and I can relate so much to u. I did wonder in this video that u hadn’t mentioned about saccadic masking. I learnt this on a bike safe course and it’s super interesting and massively contributes to why people including us don’t see things. And of course the hi-viz colour can play a part. But ultimately I believe drivers don’t look for bikes (even bicycles) ….they look for other cars. I was suggested to also try move from side to side (when riding) as this can also draw attention to our visibility being increased. I’ve been a driver for 20 yrs and still find people cars and bikes pulling out / misjudging my speed and riding for 2 yrs and the same. But yet very lucky to have never had an accident but able to avoid MANY! Keep up the awesome content and ride safe ✌🏻🙌🏻❤️

Nice research video for People of UK🇬🇧 everyone Will learn the safety jackets role in UK 🇬🇧.

Should light modulators be permitted on motorbikes?

The best Hi-vis color is pink which most times don't blend with the background.

We get hit because people don’t look. I know someone who pulled out of a parking spot and into the path of a skip lorry. You could have painted it in hiviz yellow and they still would have hit the lorry simply because they did not look. Good video very interesting results.

Once I read an article about "accidents around 17h-19h, during these hours of the day, drivers should be more careful because of the light (penumbra). Greetings from ZH

Love your video - excellent!Fortnine do a good explanation about this titled Invisibility Training for Motorcyclists.

It is a nice coincidence, but in New Zealand September is Motorcycle awareness month. Good timing indeed. "Ride forever", local motorcycle safety organisation, run it by asking to wear hi-vis to support it while riding.

I have a hi-vis jacket that I wear for long tours or if the weather is bad. Since you see hi-viz everywhere now here in the US a think it has lost it’s impact for standing out. Example: road construction zones are well marked, coned, barrel usage etc and road workers in hi-viz get killed by drivers who “didn’t see” the construction site……we’re are own best safety device.

After being side swiped by a car pulling out at junction! While wearing full hi viz top and bottoms in the day time? I only wear now in heavy rain!

In Oz we have,in the past had a campaign of , look left look right look bike. The bastards still turn left from a right lane and turn right from a left lane, mostly without indicating!

Good discussion, still not finding the elusive answer. Seem to remember something run by one of the weeklys, (maybe MCN) back in the 70s. They carried out a long experiment to find out what drivers noticed most. It turns out the most effective deterrent was a large white Avon fairing with police stripes on it. Hitting a policeman was a threat to them, the rest of us aren't.

as someone who has ridden motorcycles for 20+ yrs and camping on my motorcycle i have found that i wear bright colored riding gear for my own safety as i am a smaller vehicle on the road and also the fact that if a driver isn't paying attention it at least gets their attention i also ride in the US and i see many driver being distracted by cellphones. That being said i'm also very hyper aware of other motorist while i'm riding so i don't put myself in a bad spot while riding

In 70s I read that using lights in day made you 7 times less lickley tobe in accident, I once looked at best colour for motorbikes after my green van got hit in rear at green grass roundabout. White was top, yellow and red came next I expect same with clothing

In Ireland I have to wear a high Viz with a big l on it for six months before I can apply for a test the L on the back is a bit embarrassing but I don't mind wearing the hi Viz as I will be going to work in the dark pretty soon.