What does the future of NASCAR gaming look to you?

And we wonder why NASCAR is falling behind on the 18-49 demographic…

It is such bullshit that we can’t get a great NASCAR game outside of the product in iRacing. The recent world of outlaws game has been holding me over

It'll take something pretty darn magical like NASCAR Thunder 2003-2004 in order to get me to have hope in NASCAR console gaming again.....

I think Monster Games will gladly return to NASCAR as soon as NASCAR gets out of this hell hole of a contract. They've gotten so much better since Heat, it's insane, I think they can make a quality NASCAR game now with iRacing's help I mean, the World of Outlaws game has been the only motorsport game I've been actively playing on console since it came out last year, and I love it, amazing gameplay, real grassroots feel to it, hopefully they come back and we can give Monster a 3rd chance

Here’s an easy fix, stop buying it. Stop giving them money. Wait for reviews before you buy. Im still on Heat 4 because I refused to pay for a crap game again and Heat 5 reviews weren’t good enough to earn my money, so Ignition sure as hell didn’t get me to buy. Let them go bankrupt. Do not support them financially. They spit in your face and it’s up to you to decide if you’re going to wipe it away or swallow it.

It will take another NASCAR Thunder 2003 -2005 Chase For The Cup for their reputation to go up at this rate.

I don't think NASCAR realizes how important their official video game is to their popularity. I originally got into NASCAR through the NASCAR Thunder games and there are many others like me. And I know a significant portion of the F1 fan base sticks around because the F1 games are so good. NASCAR really needs a good video game if they want a younger audience.

I have no hope for a good nascar game in the future

What I find is ridiculous is that they're waiting until the NASCAR playoffs to release a 2023 update. Why the hell are we waiting until the end of the season to release that season's update? Honestly this company is an absolute joke. J-O-K-E

I think you hit the nail on the head with the pre-order take, it's the single largest reason for the downfall of modern gaming imo, NASCAR or otherwise. Companies are enabled by pre-order culture, why finish the game by release when everyone has already bought it ahead of time? The day a large majority of us stop pre-ordering games full stop, I fully believe we'd begin to see gaming releases increase in quality.

Honestly NASCAR games have more potential than any other genre, and of all the Motorsports in the world NASCAR has the best product to make a game with, and yet we haven't had a good game in at least a decade and a half.

Saying they gave the 22 update for free was like something completely new but every company has done free updates for content but if you had to pay no one will pay

Do these investors just throw money at everything? Im shocked they dont at least check the stock price for MSG, the investors are almost as silly as the company

I'm gonna compare Motorsports Games to Rovio: Rovio removed "Rovio Classics: Angry Birds" from the app store since it performed better than their newer titles (which to me that decision is still complete bs), but their CEO and community managers are engaging with fans and the community on ways to bring back more beloved games from back in the day. Motorsports Games on the other hand has a shady owner with bills shoved up his ass engaging in Russian ponzi schemes. Dmitry Kozko is a criminal, and he deserves to be locked up for life not only for the crimes he's committed, but for also betraying NASCAR and their audience. It's like they secretly want the sport to not grow and fail.

Drink every time things get worse for motorsport games

At this point if EA got the license back and they made another NASCAR game, even if it was filled to the brim with micro transactions and loot boxes, it would be better than anything Motorsport games could crap out on their best days, especially considering they’d at least give us a game.

You can tell how much they care in that video call. There is so much enthusiasm and care in that totally non-read script. Plus, he mentions the generously free update given to us peasants getting screwed over. I feel so bad for anyone who has ever given a hard earned dime to this game

Rockstar games adding the race truck a few weeks ago makes gta more of a nascar game than what we’ve had since 2015 lmao

NASCAR Heat 4 and 5 were great. Just needed updated schemes and new game modes

2:18 He sounds like what you would expect to hear play on the phone while you are on hold awaiting to speak with a representative

You're spot on with every point in this video. NASCAR needs to do everything possible to get out of this contract!

The PGA is about 2 video games. Lego even has a racing game coming out with 2K. NASCAR and IndyCar, the 2 top racing series in America will have 0.

Here’s an idea: let iRacing make a single-player, mod-friendly NASCAR game.

I actually liked nascar 2015. I didn't love it, but I didn't mind playing it. But I agree the older games were amazing. Especially the games that had dozens of tracks the cup cars didn't go to. I grew up literally right down the street from Nazareth speedway and loved racing at it on my nascar games as a kid.

Also don't listen to KZfaqrs that get the game early because more than likely they're being paid to say good things about the game and to sell the game as better than what it is. RealRadman made a career out of it, and now is whining that his channel is gonna die because MSG fooled him so badly, even though he could have possibly helped stop this from getting this far if he was just honest

In my opinion the decrease in fans in younger fans is 1/3 broadcasts, 1/3 games, and 1/3 the amount of small hometown tracks that have closed down (which gets people into racing)

Hi from Norway, i started watching Nascar races recently (2007/2008) , but my understanding of how difficult pack racing really is ,i learned when i tested a nascar game a couple of years back. Got way more respect for the drivers tru gaming, and to the engineering behind set up car to different tracks in a way tv screens can not teach me, and as retired i enjoy gaming and Nascar as my two favorite hobbies. The future: no one really knows, until i got a copy of a new game, i consider it as a scam until proven wrong. I dont trust devs, they only care about their fat paychecks. Greed kill art as always.

All I know is the reason Nascar hasn't pulled out yet is the current owner still has stocks in MSG for *some* ungodly reason

For now, I think we could do alot as a community to get iRacing to make a Cars Tour game. Maybe even ARCA

This proves Nascar and INDY CAR don't care about their fans either. People are begging you to take their money just put a game out.

I’ve turned from a lifelong Nascar guy to a F1 guy. The games are better and it’s not close and even the racing is more intriguing. It’s shorter, better commentary and feels bigger. I still somewhat pay attention to nascar but in my age range of the 20’s a good video game can draw so many in and nascar has no clue how many people it can turn off. F1 21 turned me and I don’t see me turning back. Love the video though man

This is a failure and should be enough for NASCAR and INDY CAR to cut ties with thus company. It is so unacceptable and costing these series hundreds of millions of dollars. From team sponsors who would forever be on a video game for exposure, money lost for the series it huge.

damn this sucks. i'm a die-hard fan but i am in the below 18 graphic, and it's so hard to try to get my friends into the sport because of this. i want to be able to talk nascar with my friends, and if we don't get a good game, it won't happen. overall, i hate how MG is doing this.

It's crazy to think that almost 30 years ago, Nascar Racing by Papyrus came out. I wish they would just try to make the RACING part of the game better, add new/updated tracks, and keep paint schemes updated. All the extra fluff isn't that important to me.

I smell a lawsuit brewing. It'd be better than the current gaming product

I can't even tell if we're better or worse off than Madden or FIFA fans.

7:43 yeah F1 22 isn’t good (from what I heard) be ways it’s EA. EA Sports and Codemasters are together. I heard Automobilista 2 is a good sim game nowadays. But NR2003 is KING!

Just picked up Heat 5 the other day, that’ll do well for now. Would love for Thunder to come back with features like 2k

This mess isn't about Motorsport Games anymore, it's about Nascar. Nascar helped create this situation where a single developer could have a stranglehold on an entire fan base. The reason we aren't getting a new Nascar game for at least a few years is because of the exclusivity that Nascar hands out with their license. Nascar has been dead silent on anything regarding the video game side of the business, and don't seem aware of the negative effect having nothing but garbage for the past decade is having on their brand. It seems like they never even bothered to make sure they had some kind of "out clause" in their licensing deal. Clearly Motorsport Games has already proven that they are never going to deliver anything worth playing, so their silence pretty much shows you that they are stuck without any options except for a possible court battle. Motorsport Games is just the latest in a long line of developers who have failed to deliver a satisfactory game that represents Nascar, so Nascar should have been more careful in striking their deal with this latest developer.

I do not see NASCAR accepting no release in 2023 during their 75th anniversary

My first NASCAR game was a roblox game with vision lag cars at Kentucky speedway from 2018.

Still playing heat 4 from time to time but may have to dig out the ole PS2 for 03-07 where all the nostalgic fun is

NASCAR Thunder 2003, it's the last year you get to experience racing back to the yellow flag. You actually have to drive through the wrecks. It was the last time on console that when a yellow flag it thrown you actually have to dodge the chaos and surive. It is such a great feeling to make the right moves and come through a huge crash and secure a good finish or win! I mean they even do a replay of the caution of you want to see what happened.

I wish we could go back in time. To early 2000's. When, NASCAR gaming was at its peak.

Nascar game back then: realistic physics, effort and great mechanics Nascar games now: ha ha. Funi cars go bye bye in da void

A modern reworking of NR2003 would be the perfect nascar game. Literally the only bad things about NR2003 are graphics, the dirt physics not being good because it wasn’t made with dirt in mind and how there’s only 4 physics presets for cars so sometimes it can feel a bit repetitive

i've wanted a sim-like indycar game with the full schedule and all the teams for the longest time, and when it was very first announced, i was obviously extremely happy. but after nascar 21, if we ever actually do get an indycar game from these "devs", it will 100% be absolutely terrible

I think NASCAR sues to get out of the contract at this rate. There's no new game coming out this year, probably nothing in 2024.

I could see NASCAR getting money to iRacing for them to purchase motorsports games and do what iRacing has done with the world of outlaws.

NASCAR never fails to disappoint.

It'll be a great day when Motorsport Games finally collapses and Kozko and his gang is locked up.

Racing games -and games in general- peaked in the mid 2000s and it has been downhill from there with exception of indie titles.

Not only does the racing suck but the damage model is atrocious every year.

So is there going to be a update for 2022 season or just for next gen?

Why does everyone hate the Heat games? They were pretty good especially Heat 4

What ever happened to the Heat 5 update they were talking about ??

Crazy how the F1 games are now in the clutches of EA and still are more polished than the NASCAR games, even with the 2022 entry being filled with bugs, missing features and microtransactions. Edit: “don’t pay money for faulty games you barely see any community do that” Current day call of duty: allow us to introduce ourselves

Something like this is just so frustrating so fed up w nascar gaming

I still have my NASCAR 21 ignition shirt... Can't wait for it to become either a meme or ridiculously valuable

Giving a company that's never made a videogame a long term deal shows how stupid the Nascar Ownership is. Wait to see how the videogame is before you give that kind of deal.

I’d like to see EA get another shot at a NASCAR game, I feel like with they could make a good game with the resources they have.

I bought 21 at half price when a ton of updates had been completed. It's ok and usually fun while being visually nice. It's just a shame how it looks versus how it plays/is just void of the typical Nascar game play. I keep hoping they take a step forward, but we're not there yet. I then bought Heat 5 and have been playing it since.

I didn't know it was possible to make the Eutechnyx games look good

I mean, I remember when sports games in general used to be good. It's not just a NASCAR problem. But I will say, if someone managed to make a good Nascar game, that would do a LOT in the sports video game market, as well as encouraging young fans to start watching Nascar. But it's likely we won't see that for a while.

I suspect that NASCAR and/or IndyCar will find a way to declare Motorsports in breach of contract and work out a settlement, or they will work with a publisher to buy out the deal. Motorsports' endgame might be to be bought out of the deals now.

All I heard when that robot voice dude was talking was those fish in spongebob that just made fart noises when they talked

So that Heat 5 2022 DLC is never happening is it? Be an easy cash grab for motorsport games as it seems to be the game everyone decides to play

Of course, they lost money. They aren't putting out a product to sell and make a profit.

Nascar hasn't had a good console game in a long time. I really hope that this changes, because I really miss playing them. I'd like them to bring back the gameplay that we were accustomed to back in the early 2000's. Heck, even the late 2000's. Some of the games in the last few years have been dumpster-worthy to say the least.

Some of us fans and content creators have even started making mods for other racing games on PC, some people work on roblox games, some work on BeamNG maps or skins, and all these fan passion projects are better than anything Motorsport Games have put out

You know NASCAR gaming is screwed when people are asking EA to make a NASCAR game

NASCAR games in general are on the verge of being pulled off life support, if they aren't already dead. Replay the old games. Eutechnyx NASCAR, 2003-2005 EA NASCAR, Heat games,

Not to mention the missing 2022 NASCAR heat 5 dlc that was delayed and is now missing.

Heat 5 was okay but my biggest gripe is no all star races and no duels for the 500

As someone who still actively league races on heat 5 I just hope they can keep the servers on.

Gaming Company busts: Motorsport Games

Let's be honest, the last good NASCAR Games came in the form of NASCAR Thunder

I’ve started saving for iRacing at this point. It’s really expensive, but it’s not in a downward spiral.

We just need to go back to Monster games plain and simple. They can put out games on time and good games simple.

The superspeedways are unplayable and the ai dumps me 24/7 on intermediates.

I gotta say, Motorsport Games has been like Ellie Goulding, and they have let the money burn, burn, burn, burn. But don't worry. Help is on the way. Motorsport Games will shut down, there will be a lawsuit, someone will buy the license, and NASCAR gaming will be revived. Mark my words.

the only 3 racing "games" i play anymore are iracing when i'm trying to be serious, forza motorsport 7 when i want to race hard with friends, wreckfest "clean" lobbies when im just trying to smile.

Fucking Garry's Mod or Roblox are less buggier for hosting NASCAR races than the current titles we have at this point.

I recently got nascar 15 on steam to relive one of my favorite games, other than not being able to have throttle control on my pedals its as much fun as I remembered and I still consider it the last half assed nascar game, also I see beamng as what will soon be the ultimate motorsports game in the near future when they start adding more racing mechanics

Is it true that Brian France has stock in msg?

1999 CART Flag to Flag is the last decent "Indycar" game with road/street courses. And..... it's only on the Dreamcast. (Fun though).

I never though I would say this after NASCAR 09, but I really wish EA takes the NASCAR license again. They have been putting good stuff with the F1 and Rally games since they purchased Codemasters, I'm sure they know how and have the resources to put up a solid masterpiece of NASCAR game.

I am a huge motorsports fan, I go to daytona and Sebring as much as I can. I respect the difficulty of driving at nearly 200mph sometimes over for hours on end, but for most people it's just boring. I don't see how a video game changes that, if people find it boring to watch, why would they spend $70 on a new game?

There's such a demand for a good game i hope future nascar liscense holders arent influenced by the bad sales of motorsport games' time

I haven’t played a NASCAR game since Heat 1, when it felt like a 20 year old reskinned game. NASCAR is screwed. They were told by a lot of fans who to go with, and they went with the obviously horrible developers…

Challenge Idea for future nascar game💡 : a challenge where u play ad Ricky Bobby and win the talladega race where u race, crash and ACTULLY GET OUT THE CAR and run and keep ur energy good and beat the green guy(I fucking forgot his name💀) and if u win u get both the ME and Bread flame paint scheme and also Nascar, Cars, Days of Thunder ect movie challenges to win old school paint schemes, also it'll be cool playing as Dale Earnhearth Sr and wining the daytona 500 and getting his paint scheme

Yeah ignition broke pre-ordering for me

The forza add on was the last good nascar video game experience. The EA 07-09 games were the last great full console games.

I never thought I would say this but can NASCAR just give the license to EA? Motorsports Games is a terrible studio who hasn’t released a single decent game.

I’m 33 now I don’t even want to think about 2029

none of the bigger companies want to make a NASCAR game because they don't sell well at all and probably never will sell all that well. it takes A LOT of money and effort these days to make a game and there won't be any return on a NASCAR game, so this is what we get. a second rate company that will make the games for less with lesser quality.

I have a feeling that this is gonna become a Madden situation

Thank you for putting this out. I feel like ever sense EA walked away nascar games been unplayable or unrealistic. If I had a quality game like iracing, I would leave iracing for that game. The cost iracing is just to high and more depressing when your getting wreaked all the time.

It’s so bad I’m thinking about draining my bank account with iRacing just to get some good nascar races. Lol