How much does it cost to install an EV charger?

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Most EV drivers will choose to have an electric vehicle charge point installed at home. In this video, we help to unpack the cost of having an EV charger installed at home. Should you buy a charger as part of your electric car purchase. What do "standard" installation packages include? What hidden costs are involved.
Information is based upon EV charge point installations within the UK. We've used an example offered by PodPoint, as they offered the cheapest deal when we searched via google. 1st July 2021.
OZEV grant is £350 at time of filminh (formerly known as OLEV grant)
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00:00 EV charger installation cost - what does google tell us?
00:42 OZEV (OLEV) grant helps with the price
01:26 Cost of the charger - features make a difference
02:24 Location of EV charge point
03:00 Is your electricity supply suitable for an EV charger
04:10 Standard installations offers
06:10 Hidden EV charger costs - bundled offers
06:40 Could a local electrician be a better choice?
07:20 Time is money
07:50 Future proof your EV charger installation
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@EndlessDelusion 2 жыл бұрын

I know this is totally irrelevant but that giant WAGO connector on the desk is pretty neat.

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

We also love it 😃

@marceloness 2 жыл бұрын

Can take up to 240mm cable

@9plusinstalaciones 2 жыл бұрын

Yes it's mine isn't it @efixx

@hackwoodelectrical 2 жыл бұрын

Priced an ev charger local to me Charger with O-PEN technology Load management system EV 4mm swa cable with the cat5 inside it about 10 meters worth clipped direct to brick Allowed a day to install looking at £900 Not bothering with the grants not worth the hassle.

@essexcountyelectricalltd 2 жыл бұрын

The pricing is a real stigma that I deal with on a daily basis. No one understands the things we have to take into consideration to provide a quote. Where alot of companies get there foot in the door by quoting a cheap price until they do a site survey then add the extras on. I have found that every job I survey and explain the whole process I tend to win the job, the ones I don't it's based on a remote quote and they just look at the cheapest.

@acelectricalsecurity 2 жыл бұрын

You get people that Will gladly pay £30k, £40k and a lot more for a car, then skimp when the thing needs to be charged, crazy. And I have no sympathy with those people when it goes wrong, or they get a crap install, it's partly their own fault.

@paulhumphries3795 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had a Rolec fitted 4 years ago, with a 3 year warranty, the unit failed one week outside the warranty period, neither Rolec or the installer ChargedEV were interested, fortunately the installation cost was £99 inc OLEV grant, now having a HyperVolt 2 installed £500. Great advice on your channel.

@yrification 2 жыл бұрын

Great video again guys 👍 the all in one price reminds me of the ‘skilled installation’ offered by Amazon for the ring @ £120. Like you say there’s lots of caveats.

@Cjrelectrical 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I’ve seen some shocking installs done by national companies. Even spoke to an installer one day and he said they are expected todo 5 a day. Not sure who I feel sorry for the client or the installer. At 5 a day corners will be cut.

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

A video which may cause a few “problems” coming soon.

@EwanV 2 жыл бұрын

I had a pod point install.... 1) It was for a unit directly through the wall from the consumer unit 2) It required a mini consumer unit installed (we still have a fuse box... with fuses in it... and its full) 3) We had the main input for a loop (Scottish Power fitted a new line to next door for free taking us off the loop) It did not take 2 hours, there was much swearing by the electrician. PS it came with the car and Vauxhall picked up all additional charges for our house, so that bit was great!

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

Great input

@dduk123 2 жыл бұрын

Great video guys trhank you. I'll be sending this to my cusotmers!

@tarbat 2 жыл бұрын

Cost me £249 to get Pod-Point to supply & install a tethered Pod-Point after Government grants. Routed through roof-space, excellent instal done in 3.5 hours.

@effervescence5664 2 жыл бұрын

2 hours wow, even doing my own which was the other side of the wall but below floor level from the consumer unit which is located in a cupboard and testing and commissioning took 2 hours taking into account getting the floor up, cable run, mounting, testing and putting the floor back down. That just sounds like a drive by EICR price or at least it's how it comes across.

@davidsworld5837 2 жыл бұрын

Its not hard for the person to make 2 hours go. if they go sit in the van or make on there looking for a part that they do not need. I gave up on getting a charger due to them refusing to show me how it was going to cost what they quoted me which was 200 pound above there advertised amount.

@NicolasRaimo 2 жыл бұрын

It takes me an hour to setup each EV charger I've been hooking up to my test rig and that's all Pre wired!

@d4rr3n_coys94 2 жыл бұрын

The standard installs (3m of trunking up to 15 meters of cable) are booked for a 3 hour period not 2. Each domestic install is project managed to the finest detail before arrival so it’s possible for the install to be done within 3 hours.

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for adding more details 👍🏻

@d4rr3n_coys94 2 жыл бұрын

No problem, happy to add any more details if any more clarity on how we work is needed.

@acelectricalsecurity 2 жыл бұрын

2hrs to install 😂😂, didn't take long for the race to the bottom to start. Why does the electrical industry continuously want to charge next to nothing for any electrical job If these cars run on water, do you think a plumber would be charging next to nothing for an install. Give it 5 years before you see the adverts, got an electric vehicle, had a EV point installed, then you maybe eligible for a compensation claim.

@9plusinstalaciones 2 жыл бұрын

Another Great Video.

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Mark

@madonemt 2 жыл бұрын

We have a similar setup as shown towards the end of the video with our charger being needed to be fitted to the fence at the end of the garden. One issue we also have is that area wouldn't be our official parking bay. Our neighbours don't mind us parking parallel to the fence as cars can still pass but we should park over the other side of the parking area. Because of this we don't qualify for a grant. Currently trail a long extension cable to a granny charger but would like to fit a proper charger.

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. You can still fit a charger without the grant.

@madonemt 2 жыл бұрын

@@efixx I'm just wary of cost. It's a new build so up to date elecs but consumer unit is in the middle of the house and away from an external wall. Nobody seems to want to look at the installation, just want a quick buck.

@tarbat 2 жыл бұрын

@@madonemt I had the same, CU in middle of house. Pod-Point did the install taking cable through roof space to attached garage, all for £249 after grants. Local electrician quoted £949 after grants.

@madonemt 2 жыл бұрын

@@tarbat I can't get the grant as where we park to charge isn't our dedicated parking bay.

@markyd2633 2 жыл бұрын

Client just had a quote from SSEN to unloop their supply £6645....and then added cost for groundwork to put the drive back before the cost of the charger and install a new board

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for adding your experiences 👍🏻

@acelectricalsecurity 2 жыл бұрын

Yet someone could go there, whack a 10kw shower on the wall and a 10kw range cooker in as well and nobody gives a crap about that.

@markyd2633 2 жыл бұрын

@@acelectricalsecurity No that's a stupid thing to say....you don't have a shower on for 7 hours do ya......ffs

@acelectricalsecurity 2 жыл бұрын

@@markyd2633 no but it's still 10kw, if the cable can't take the load, it doesn't matter if it's 10mins or 10 hours, the damage will still be done to it. Plus I have done plenty of AGA's which need a 32amp supply and they are on all day, obviously they are clicking in and out but there's nothing stopping them being used at full capacity each and everyday.

@markyd2633 2 жыл бұрын

@@acelectricalsecurity sorry fella....i misread your reply.....you are totally right

@ZG0002 2 жыл бұрын

Is the grant available on a self install? my install couldn't be simpler (CU is back to back with my drive) how much are the charging units?

@acelectricalsecurity 2 жыл бұрын

You have got no chance, any government money involved and they have to set up some red tape organisation just like the mcs fiasco, to keep form fillers in jobs

@adamdean4322 2 жыл бұрын

You also need to be Part P certified.

@RobertLeBlancPhoto 2 жыл бұрын

How'd you guys find the only Model X that has doors that line up?

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

It’s one of Tesla’s own

@sgfelectrical734 2 жыл бұрын

So if they cut into the tails from the meter to old consumers unit and add a second unit. Are they testing and certifying at the old consumers unit as well?

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

Should be probably don't!

@TeamSimpsonRacing 2 жыл бұрын

2hrs 😳! I'm sorry but that screams coyboy work. Would be interesting to know how much the installer gets paid for the labour aspect.

@MrMax247 2 жыл бұрын

I do work for Podpoint, I can tell you it's easily done within 2 hours if the install is next to the meter box as you just split tails and put a consumer unit and run less than 5 metres if cable to the charger. Which tbh is 90% of installs we do

@TeamSimpsonRacing 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMax247 how much do they pay you for that?

@acelectricalsecurity 2 жыл бұрын

They will be lucky to see £100 I bet, when I was doing work for British gas, initially I was getting well paid to do Central heating wiring, then over the years they cut the money, now they are paying £85 for the same job I was getting paid nearly £300 for. I got out as soon as they cut my original price. But there's still idiots doing their work, they are bonkers.

@acelectricalsecurity 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMax247 you should come to my area, where it's common for the meter to be under the stairs in the middle of the house and no external walls.

@MrMax247 2 жыл бұрын

@@acelectricalsecurity when we get installs like that the we get more time allocated for the install, also you're salaried so the rate doesn't change

@metube9541 2 жыл бұрын

I’m trying to get an ev charger installed at the moment (1 month before the grant ends) and it seems like the installers are just trying to pocket the £350. The quotes I’ve had are around £900+vat for the wallbox or podpoint 5m tethered. The armoured cable run is 15m clipped externally and plenty of room in the consumer unit that was newly installed 4years ago. Charger at 450, cable 130, clips and glands 20 = 600+vat. Do electricians now earn £600ish/day? Or is it because they think I can afford it because I have a 40k car on order?

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

Does your consumer unit have a type AC RCD ?

@metube9541 2 жыл бұрын

@@efixx Hi, yes it does.

@metube9541 2 жыл бұрын

@@efixx Sorry didn’t read reply properly. It has wylex WRS80/2 rcd’s fitted.

@hirenpatel5430 2 жыл бұрын

What size cable needs to run between the fuse box and the actual charger?

@DarrenWhittington Жыл бұрын

If its 7kw 4mm will do but best using 6mm, TLC in the UK have a cable size calculator. This does depend on the length of run and other factors.

@stuarto5162 Жыл бұрын

The charger I’m having fitted is from HIVE , British Gas are fitting it , the fuse box is no more than 30” away from where the EV charger is going to be fitted , should I still be paying full whack for installation Should I query the price ?

@efixx Жыл бұрын

They tend to offer a fixed price up to a certain distance. The savings won’t be huge - a few meters of cable, clips and probably 20 min labour saving

@stuarto5162 Жыл бұрын

@@efixx ok , thanks for that , I’m still gonna try though 😂

@G0ogs 2 жыл бұрын

You may not need a fast charger, if you ain’t doing many miles the supplied granny charger could sort you out. The car maybe parked on the drive all night which will give you plenty of time to charge it, also the dealer who I had mine of recommended to slow charge the car from time to time as it’s better for the batteries.

@davidsworld5837 2 жыл бұрын

the simple thing comes spending 100's on a charger unit may not be worth it. you need to look at how much of the charge in the battery you uses a day. every one just thinks you need if you buy an EV to have a home charger when you don't

@liberatodelgreco4430 2 жыл бұрын

It’s a continuous battle with this race to the bottom, however I have found that once you explain to the client that these £499 all in companies will probably inflate the price with extras. Two hours to fit an EV charger are these same people doing 6 EICR a day. Interesting times ahead when the OLEZ grant stops on 31/03/2022.

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughts 👍🏻

@AntonyoKnight 2 жыл бұрын

I think it'd be great to stop. I have seen painful comments about getting the grants. There is a huge waiting time and going through one of the OLEZ approved Contractor and Product to qualify your application it's just not worth it. It's way better to sort out with your local electricians as suggested rather than paying for a quick expensive job.

@curranhouse 2 жыл бұрын

One of the issues we had at work was the ground reference. Weston power did a resistance test through ground as there was also a transformer so getting the ground right can be a big cost...

@tomb4014 2 жыл бұрын

If the run was difficult would you ever install the breaker into the meter box?

@garysaunders6463 Жыл бұрын

Hi my wife works for eon and we have ask how much to. Fit one on the wall from my garage fuse box is only 5 meters away they said 1,200 to fit where do I. Go as I am going to. Buy Renault Zoe thanks

@bikeman123 11 ай бұрын

Do you know what fullstops are for?

@Lyndalewinder 2 жыл бұрын

I bought an EV recently which came with a "free" wall box. I had a 6 mm cable passing through the house roof feeding an outbuilding ( which only has a few LED lights and the ocasional use of a power tool) so broke into this and installed a two way consumer unit in a built-in wardrobe in one of the bedrooms. Then purchased a a PEN fault detector (I have TNCS supply) and trip unit and 10 meters of 4mm SWA and installed the wall box myself. Total cost £184 plus a few clips etc. Tested out today and working fine!

@aravindia 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder do we need to take permission/inspection from govt? I am good at electric wiring and I can fix chargers myself. However, The professional installers say ( read online) to take permission from the local govt. and has to be done by an authorized installer. There is no clear information. Installer charging an arm and eye. Can you give more information about it?

@Lyndalewinder 2 жыл бұрын

@@aravindia The law in the UK requires that I should be an approved electrician to do this work and I am not. So if someone dies due to my negligence I would probably end up in prison!

@aravindia 2 жыл бұрын

@@Lyndalewinder thanks for reply. can you tell which charger you bought, there are loads in the market.

@Lyndalewinder 2 жыл бұрын

@@aravindia Hi I assume you mean the wall box - I didn't buy it - it was provided free with the car and its a brand I've not seen before so it may be of European origin. The PEN fault detector/trip was from CEF.

@aravindia 2 жыл бұрын

@@Lyndalewinder thanks julian. I may try with earthing rod first, if it doesn't work, will buy pen detector or inbuilt one. I have bought niether charger nor pen fault detector. Actually, i bought used leaf car but have not collected yet due to busy schedule 😄

@dwatercraft 2 жыл бұрын

So how much does it cost, never answered?

@pumpkinhead456 2 жыл бұрын

Could you not just add an additional consumer unit as per your other video? Seems a bit cheaper than a whole new board! **oops, commented half way through the vid, should have just kept watching***

@Mmmjustme 2 жыл бұрын

Also, the added time cost for completing the OZEV paperwork 😖

@Mmmjustme 2 жыл бұрын

Done one in Feb that I’m still awaiting payment for 😳

@Mmmjustme 2 жыл бұрын

As much as it’s not good for consumers it will be a lot more level playing field, not to mention far less stressful, when the grant is withdrawn. Or at least make the process a lot easier. Or indeed put in on the consumer to “apply for a voucher” in the first instance. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@calvinhale9913 2 жыл бұрын

Customer has just emailed on another job, They have got a deal after the OLEV grant of £199 supplied and fitted by PodPoint, this is with the Peugeout discount. Not even worth throwing your hat in the ring at those prices.

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

The discount is like the old “free floor mats” - built in to car price.

@calvinhale9913 2 жыл бұрын

@@efixx 😅

@Dog-whisperer7494 2 жыл бұрын

So the grant will stop at some point and then the cost of the EV charge point will increase, The perfect example of how the consumer is being ripped off yet again if I ever get an electric car I will tell them that they can stick the EV charge point we’re the sun doesn’t shine and I will use the one at my local Tesco or my local BP petrel station . Sorry this just stinks of rip off Briton . Great video guy’s very interesting and informative 👍⚡️❤️

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

Yes - but it’s way cheaper to charge at home compared to the one in Tesco!

@Dog-whisperer7494 2 жыл бұрын

@@efixx don’t you think we are be forced into buying electric car and then we have to pay for all the extra stuff like the charge points plus the extra cost added to your electricity bill . How many people actually want an electric car? This was something a friend of mine was talking about in the pub the other day , I think he might have a point all be it a small point .

@Brian-om2hh 2 жыл бұрын

@@Dog-whisperer7494 But Sean, don't forget that the "extra" cost onto your electricity bill will be offset by no longer having to buy petrol or diesel, which also keeps increasing in price! When I last drove a petrol car, I was forking out £120 to £150 per month for fuel. These days it's normally no more than £40 per month. I charge mainly at home on an EV specific tariff, which costs 5p per kwh. Servicing for EV's is cheaper too. No engine, no oil changes, no clutch, no gearbox, no exhaust system, no cambelt to snap or replace etc........ Depending on your location or the type of mileage you do, you may not need a home charger. Many supermarkets now offer charging, with some ( such as my local Sainsburys ) being free to use. How many people actually want an electric car? Well sales are increasing, so I guess the answer is an increasing number of people.....

@michaelsrowland 2 жыл бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh hopefully petrol and diesel will hit £5 a litre soon then everyone will want an ev

@voxpopneverdies2025 2 жыл бұрын

£950 in Norway...but they are all 3kw.

@philip426 2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that these "national installers" is they get the EV chargers in bulk at a lot less than a local spark can get them for. If it's only going to take 2 hours to fit, they can install 2 or 3 in a day, so that's the spark paid for & it will be a rush job, so no pride taken in the install. A guy I know had one done & they must of used a whole contractors pack to run the cable from the board to the EV & not being in the game he thought it was fine, until i showed him a photo of my installs . But people are only interested in the cost, they spend £40k on a new tesla but not £1000 on a decent install.

@acelectricalsecurity 2 жыл бұрын

To do it properly it will take longer than that, you have the form filling side, and the install, even if it was easy you would want all least half a day, so you would be lucky to do two in a day, because you may have to drive 20 miles to the next one, even if the houses were next door you may struggle to do two in a day, I would be allowing a day per install

@davidsworld5837 2 жыл бұрын

i asked for a quote from one advertising £399 but when got quote it was well over £580 and all they had put is £50 1 hr of time and £50 2 m of cable even though the measurements between fuse box and location of charger was under there distance quoted I asked them to give more detail on pricing but they refused So the low prices they show are all just a lie and they will just rob you with extra costs that you can not work out if its genuine. My sister got a lease and included a charger but after over a year it is still not fitted and the company has not showed any intention to get the job done, no letter no emails no calls, even when emails sent to them no reply back. I just fitted a cable to an outdoor waterproof plug and charge when i want via granny cable there seems no point spending 100's on a charger

@haywardsteve 2 жыл бұрын

What happens if you live in a flat???

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

Long extension lead out of the 🪟

@Brian-om2hh 2 жыл бұрын

Public charging, local supermarket, ask your local authority to apply for funding to install a streetlight or bollard charger, like these www.ubitriciy.co.uk

@adamrmorris 2 жыл бұрын

Good point re future proofing. With one EV charge point the current single phase domestic supply is OK. But in a multi car household as we all go EV we would be better off with 3 phase supplies if each car user expects simultaneous charging at a fast rate - imagine the cost of upgrading to 3 phase added to the cost of a charge point. If the house has electric showers and cooking the maximum demand could be an issue with just one car especially in an older house with a 60a cut-out DNO fuse.

@d4rr3n_coys94 2 жыл бұрын

You can install multiple EV chargers on a single phase system. Would just require load management and ideally be a 100A fuse which is a simple request to the DNO to have the fuse upgraded if 60/80A is currently fitted.

@deebeegb 2 жыл бұрын

@@d4rr3n_coys94 this is something I keep meaning to work out and understand ..... my house has two DNO fuses, 100A where the original supply comes in, then a further 60A DNO fuses just before the meter ... and it does not appear to be a looped supply, just one incoming cable and one cable between the two DNO fuses .... confusing !!!

@effervescence5664 2 жыл бұрын

@@deebeegb What meter do you have, a current smart meter or an older one? Many of the older black cased disc/mechanical meters were only rated at 60 Amp. If you have a new meter it's surprising the electricity supplier didn't take out the additional fuse.

@paulmac8016 2 жыл бұрын

@@deebeegb Is it possible that previous owners had requested that the meter position be moved for some reason? Also the 1st carrier may be a 100 amp rated cut out but with a 60 or 80 amp fuse in.

@d4rr3n_coys94 2 жыл бұрын

Hard to tell without seeing it, but I’ve come across it quite regularly that there be 2 phases & 2 main cut out fuses in a domestic dwelling.

@pgbaines65 Жыл бұрын

You should update this video as you can’t get one fitted for under £1000 with £400 being the minimum fitting cost. 😡🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤠

@DarrenWhittington Жыл бұрын

With my install I just installed the cable run myself then left the electrical engineer wire and comission the equipment.

@Dog-whisperer7494 2 жыл бұрын

Mobile phone manufactures cordless drill manufacturers and camera manufacturers to name a few,all supply a battery and a plug in charger with there products, So why don’t electric vehicle manufacturers, supply a plug in charger with every electric vehicle , if they wanted to they can easily make a plug in charger that would plug in to a standard sockets . They don’t because the national grid will loos out and there profits will fall . That’s why.

@efixx 2 жыл бұрын

They do - a granny cable - chargers at 2.3 kW from a 13A plug .

@edc1569 2 жыл бұрын

Most of them do supply a standard granny cable - it's just they are a pain in the arse, and slow.

@Brian-om2hh 2 жыл бұрын

The National Grid don't sell electricity to domestic consumers Sean. The National Grid are responsible for operating the grid and continuity of supply. DNO's ( District Network Operators) are the more local organisations who carry out repairs or modifications to the local grids etc. It's the energy companies whom actually sell and supply your electricity and gas......and incidentally, they are the ones who offer the cheaper EV specific tariffs. As the others have said, you do get a basic charging lead with a new EV.

@jackwatsonepic626 2 жыл бұрын

Yes but it's the conservative government who have come up with all electric vehicles by 2035 but they don't give you the money for the installation of the charger do they and what about people who buy a car for say £700 they can't afford to put a bloody charger in so really in the future cars are only going to be for certain people people working on minimum wage can't afford this ???? Some people rely on emergency electric for their home 🏠 never mind this extra cost aswell Surely there must be people out there who think the same way can't be just me. ?

@pgbaines65 Жыл бұрын

Why does it cost so much for a 30 amp socket to be fitted ❓This is the question we all should be asking. 😡🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤠

@efixx Жыл бұрын

Cost of the charger plus the worked required to make the supply in the property complaint - correct RCD, Pen fault etc

@pgbaines65 Жыл бұрын

@@efixx£500 for a box that is probably made for £100 in china £100 an hour for fitting and another £100 for the cable. It is just a big rip off yes safety is important that's why I will not get a cowboy in to fit it. If you really believe it's good value for money. I suggest you do a video where you brake down the cost of manufacture and fitting.🤠

@lordmurray1272 2 жыл бұрын

Here’s a thought for all EV users , if we all go electric where do the government get the money they collect form all the fossil fuel sales. That’s all the petrol and diesel ,plus the lack from road fund licenses. If we use electricity from home ,how will the government metre and charge of EV energy. Will it come under one overall pricing ,which will in turn have all electricity costing 5 or 6 times more than now. The government are leading us all up a blind alley with their tax toll booth needs feed .

@Brian-om2hh 2 жыл бұрын

They won't do any of that. It's a poorly kept secret that fuel duty will be replaced with a system of road tolls. Discussions are already in progress between the Government and the AA, RAC and other involved parties. If the Government legislated to fit meters to everyone's EV chargers, many ( including me ) would simply charge their car up overnight using the TV socket at the standard domestic rate, over several nights. They wouldn't know whether you'd sat up all night watching TV, or charged a car up. To begin artificially jacking up electricity prices as a tax raiser would wreck the economy. It would push millions more ( particularly elderly) people into fuel poverty. It would also increase costs excessively for Hospitals, schools, industry etc.... It would also be tantamount to political suicide...... In the not too distant future, all new vehicles will come out of their assembly plants with a tracking device already fitted. Some already are. It is this type of technology which will be used to charge you for road usage. As soon as you unlock your car and "start" it, the charge will begin. It has been suggested that those living in more remote areas may be allowed an annual block of "free" miles, to enable them to access services and other facilities ( healthcare, schools etc ) in the nearest towns etc. A possible downside is that it may also be possible for the powers that be to access data regarding whether you speed or not on particular roads. It may also be possible to be fined electronically for any traffic offences you may commit, with the possibility of them remotely disabling your vehicle for non payment of those fines etc...... And what about people who - like me - have solar panels? Currently my panels feed directly into the grid and earn me money. If I had my system modified to feed the solar energy into my car, how could they tax that? They won't know when or for how long the sun shone over my house. There are already systems and chargers available which will allow you to direct solar or wind energy to where you'd prefer it to go...... Do a KZfaq search for Fully Charged Zappi Charger, and you'll see how it all works.... And once we've virtually all gone electric and are driving EV's, the Government may no longer need to subsidise the oil industry to the tune of £300 billion per year anymore, so perhaps that may soften the blow a little?