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@@narwin2477 ok

Giraffenhals

Checking out your channel!

Your welcome

Brian the Electrician has reached the echelons of Turbo Yoda

@flyYTguy Thunderbolt is evolving into Arc Flash.

Cool

Niceeee

Very wholesome comment, you sound like a great dad 😊

w father

Good job dad. For real money should be spent on good storage like m.2 or ssd, processor, cooling and graphics card if it's for gaming. Do not need best ram just 16 to 32 anymore than that and it's waste unless you doing it for video editing etc. you can build a good 🎮 ng rig for like 1200 bucks. Honestly you can refurbish an older rig for like 800 bucks if it has a good motherboard for expansion like an old school asus 370e strix. Gl on build

TLDR: Invest in fans

That's what she said...

More like TLDW

Which is why I ziptied four 40mil fans to the flat chunks of metal that MSI slapped on my X370 Gaming Pro Cabrón. It sits in my server now.

Thanks, this should be the answer in the conclusion section of the video.

Yeah fortunately? Fuck the imperial system

@@pauljemand8832 Glorious Imperial System > peasant metric system

Imperial is the best. There are 13 thumbs in a duck, and 27 ducks in a queen's lake, and 3 queen's lakes in a mile. What a great system!

@@guadalupe8589 🤡

@@guadalupe8589 You died ------ TRY AGAIN

Why do we all like Anthony so much? Concur. As to the title itself it's really the wrong sort of question to choosing a motherboard, which I can appreciate now why strict gamers are only wanting to buy the same basic b450 (I swear half of all builders went with the Tomahawk; I wasn't impressed) because what they're only thinking about is fps I guess? But it's just here's the thing, even if you bought a board just for the fps, you are not going to be building a PC just for a glorified game launcher (you'd have just bought a console instead possibly) but also for a real computer, which means that there's a whole slew of questions and problems you're needing to ask yourself now. Like are you going to need to use this for schoolwork or presentations? Do you need it at work in four years? What's your platform for? Do you like lots of storage? Do you intend to help backup the family photos of the now deceased family dog and email them the old videos? Did you actually need this thing to edit the graduation photos? So like, don't just buy a board thinking about your fps. Moreover what you should be doing is ask not just "what am I using this for" but "what do I see myself wishing I could use it for?" But to answer that question, it doesn't mean that you should buy a friggin $650 Intel board either, just not the worst board neither. Like I have already, just within the previous 2 years, discovered that the HOTAS I bought, that I already didn't know I was intending to buy when I built it, could have major problems on the power delivery through USB, and which knock on wood don't think is a problem but heard repeatedly by people that the X56 has a habit of frying peoples' boards, and I theorized that this was partly because of so many people having very few PCB layer cheap boards with shittier parts because they never even dreamed to think "yes but can I play No Man's Sky, MSFS2020, or Elite: Dangerous with a HOTAS without problems, and can it handle that power delivery?" And so just because of that, I have heard people saying you need to buy a *$150* add in USB 3.0 card to just use the HOTAS without weird shit like ghost inputs and frying parts of the motherboard, or worse. So see, this right there is just one issue where I could've just had to buy an additional hundred bucks worth of stuff, to just find a workaround to my bad board, just to play a game. And RGB. I wish I had more ARGB ports on mine. You will find all sorts of stuff you didn't think to ask until you already were building or had just built it, and that often enough, a difference between a $130 B550 and $270 x570 board is the difference, keeping in mind that's just the past two years to me alone, so I can't even imagine how many others built during the pandemic on a rather lousy board not realizing the kinds of problems it can cause down the line. I do think a refresh on motherboards through Anthony or LTT or someone else could be a good thing, not just on the new platform but also just as refresh to get new hobbyists into their groove, and asking the right unexpected questions is one of them. Like there are lots of workarounds to problems and limitations, it's just that they're expensive, sometimes time consuming, and basically add up to more than the cost of the board itself if you just went higher and near none of that has to do with clock speeds sans the questionable VRMs/power delivery on El Cheapo boards that get popular with so many gamers. I really should thank you, Dell, for having managed to get that through to me with such remorseless brutality over the years by inflicting on me a locked down BIOS on a trashboard that's Dell OEM quality, the same I thank Apple's inflicting God given survival instincts augmented with PTSD to SAVE F'ING EVERYTHING by crashing on me and erasing hours of my life so repeatedly that I follow the 2:1 rule religiously now: backup all your files to three different drives, two in one place, another in a different location in case your house burns down. Thanks to Apple I'll have nothing but my old KOTOR save files and some family photos and late 90s/early 00s iTunes mp3s, but still. Point being, prolonged exposure to bad OEM motherboards can make you mentally ill, a rambling neurotic wreck. Don't do cheap motherboards kids. Stay in school.

@@pandemicneetbux2110 nobody asked

@@ntwrk56 Free speech and public space though. But holy, that was _looong_ lol

@@pandemicneetbux2110 Lmao😂 I love elaborate jokes. Nice.

@@anxiousearth680 Oh my sweet summer child, you think I am merely joking when I say, that prolonged exposure to Dell and Apple in your youth will turn you into a Lovecraft mythos survivor gibbering neurotic PTSD'd wreck of a man. Oh you should thank whatever gods you worship you had never experienced and survived such things, though it's questionable that surviving is the better outcome; sometimes, death is better. I survived countless HP laptops, Dell OEM XPS/Optiplex tier, and Apple emacs, imacs, iTunes DRM, and PowerMacs among others, and I can tell you, that the blood vessel bursting rage inducing problems will change the way you look at life, hardware, savestates, and fundamental questions about the nature of reality; sometimes, death is better. You think I am joking when I tell you that I had essays squirreled away at a parent's office or school PC, literally hundreds of manual saves in Witcher 1 and KOTOR, old floppy disks filled with now useless data, oh the nonstop slowdowns and crashes, and slowdowns and crashes sung by Apple chimes, involuntary physical panic seeing that hockey puck cooler on a green or blue DELL board awaiting the preordained time of counting the beeps and length of beeps, and beeps and lengths of beeps, wondering if my Dell system would survive; sometimes, death is better

Also sub $100 boards

Yeah I'm in the market for a mobo and this was going to be my answer but its Intel.....

Yeah we need that video!

Could I squeeze a bit more lifetime out of my X470 AM4 motherboard with the "new" 5000 Ryzen CPUs ? I'm currently running a Zen+ CPU so, there might be an upgrade path for him.

Yeah totally I agree since I only just built a budget amd setup with a ryzen 5 5600g being the most expensive part, I'd be interested in an amd version too cause the board (can't recall the exact board atm but it's msi) I did get is good enough for now but, it would be nice to see what's best out there and if there's any worth upgrading too since the cpu should suit all of my needs at least until the gpu shortage and price hikes end

Yeah me to !

@Ladioz u understand little

@Ladioz Anthony has more knowledge tho

@Ladioz Anthony is sigma

Ain't there several Hardware Test Sites and Reviews? 0o

I have a Gigabyte a520m Elite and a R5 3600 w/6800xt. I game and compare fps/benchmarks from KZfaqrs with exact or sometimes KZfaq has s as better CPU than mine, and I’m slightly better than what they get. Paid 74.99 for motherboard new and $144 for my Ryzen 5 3600 new late 2019.

Yep, thats some proper industrial power limit. If cpu doesnt glow white hot, then there is still headroom x'D

This is oversimplified, sure for a mundane computer yeah you got the gist, but for power users or people that need greater hardware there is a shit ton more you need to take into account. Grant it the bulk of watchers are poor or tightwads apparently, so this does apply to them.

Well there are some more things that one can want that are much harder to find. PCI-passthrough support for example.

@@nocturnal101ravenous6 Yea but LTT makes videos targeting people that are completely clueless and their business model is to spoon feed them basic tech info. If a true Power User is watching LTT to learn things than this industry as a whole is in trouble. This video is the perfect example, its just fluff and filler, there is no information here, as far as I can tell its sole purpose is to fill an advertising quota. "Dont overheat components" is not some new radical idea. Honestly im not sure how you conflated this topic with a lack of money, its kind of odd. The cost of your build does not equate to your skill as a power user in any way. Really it just makes you sound like a wannabe elitist prick, trying to look down at the poor peons on the internet you imagine you are better than.

I just buy what works best for my daily gaming/work use. Serious, breaking the bank to for a PC that's way overkill for what you use it for is a bit of a diminishing return.

4) does it have a good bios or a unusable one like asrock?

Would love to see similar video about AMD too and some info on comparing this video to AMD.

To be fair, a 10 hour documentary about the history of the stove would probably be pretty interesting anyway, but yeah

Anthony x Technology Connections crossover.

I second that, ngl that sounds like an interesting documentary on stoves with or without Anthony

you’d probably watch paint dry or grass grow too. so, doesn’t say much

Lmao Anthony!

Gotta love the shitty market atm, the chip shortage effects mobos too

Yeah those days are never coming back...you also don’t wanna cheap out I made that mistake when I upgraded to my 4790k years back I went with an ASrock mobo that was dead on arrival the next one fried within a month and then the last one caused issues with almost all of my parts except the video card and power supply. I will never get their brand again.

@@jakeman025 I cheaped out on my mobo for my 4790k with a board that cost around 80, and a long time after that I killed it with water 😅 oops, and got a msi gaming 9 and it made exactly 0 change in ram, cpu frequency, etc, even the benchmarks were exactly the same pretty much.

I remember a time when Expensive boards couldn't be purchased at all; they only existed in prototype labs.

@@deusexaethera I'm still using an 8 core CPU from 2012 on a cheap motherboard, so I haven't progressed much.

Yeah, but only including one top level processor seems pretty weird. They should've included something from lower midrange as well.

A lot of sites do that every year, maybe that is the reason LTT doesn't.

This would have been a lot more interesting with B boards since they’re not checking over clock capabilities, which defeats the large amount of purpose to half of these boards. IMO.

To me it was to be expected but I agree it was a very well done comparison. You've got to figure that they aren't going to do any excessive engineering for the higher end boards because it would cut into their bottom line.

That'd be a deep rabbit hole, considering that "popular boards" probably come with different sockets and different supported CPUs and RAM-type.

HUB practically does this testing whenever a new chipset comes out. You should be very well equipped to find a good board.

I want to hug him

@@CorporalAdrianShephard mmmmmmmmm not so sure he would like it or not .

I concur o7

Hardware unboxed does this kind of testing all the time. Amd results are extremely boring. All boards are good.

@@Superiorer using an asrock ab350 board that cost me 50 bucks incl shipping brand new. Used it since my 1300 and now woth my 3600 still going strong, even with memory and cpu oc. Obvz i got no reference but im pretty sure thatll do to agree with you :D

@@D3nn1s is true asrock bios is uselles??

@@daviddimeglio5466 depends on what you mean by useless i guess? I found it a bit hard to navigate, but its my first pc so no clue how it compares to others. I was able to oc ram and cpu like i said no problem

ye same

why do i feel the opposite wtf is wrong with me :/

@@AppleW Don't get mad but...it's because you're boring. Sorry grandpa :(

@@MrTuNNe dont bet mad but your predictable attention is also boring

@@MrTuNNe damn feel bad for u if ur grandpa's 15

Yes, please!

Yes, please

AMD doesn't pay good as Intel

No, AMD is boring. All b550 boards perform the same.

@@Superiorer and is it a bad thing?

HP has always had incredibly restrictive BIOS menus. Their business hardware is the worst offender by far

@@kennethparadis2733 Well, it bit them in the ass in my case. They advertise the current generation of HP Omen machines as having XMP RAM and being upgradeable, but the RAM doesn't run XMP profiles (only achieves 3200MHz through horrible JEDEC settings), XMP cannot be enabled in the bios, and if you put in any RAM other than the specific HyperX modules that HP ships, it won't run at 3200MHz at all. I learned this when I bought a machine with 16gb of RAM, and then got another 16gb of store-bought HyperX RAM (which looks identical, but apparently isn't) to take it up to 32gb. So I threatened to take them to the fair trading authorities here in Australia, and they rolled over and replaced my whole machine with a top of the line one with 32gb out of the box, more storage, and a better GPU at no cost to me. As to why I bought an Omen to begin with, I get VERY good prices with HP through my employer, and I was literally getting a whole machine for only a bit more than the cost of the GPU.

@@YetMoreCupsOfTea I have a HP Omen and noticed the same thing, tempted to just swap out the HP motherboard though and in theory everything else should just work…

@@Shoot231 I have heard of someone doing that, but in my case I just forced them to give me a machine with 32gb of RAM on threat of dragging them through the fair trading system here in Australia. Our consumer protection laws are no joke, and they clearly could tell they were in the wrong.

@@YetMoreCupsOfTea should've still taken them to it regardless lmao

I had a mobo (asrock iirc) with both agp and pcie and support for both ddr1 and ddr2. Crazy times indeed.

@@michalpbielawski I had one too. I must have totally suppressed that memory until I read your comment. You’re right, those were crazy times.

I haven't thought about FSB for ages. Just like CRT's and ribbon cables. I think I just outed myself as being old 🤣

Hello there, I use arch btw (Kinda, more accurately I use Garuda btw)

Linux Master Race

Got an upvote from me as soon as I saw your name, haha!

Very true

i use tw btw

Yes.

Said the actress to thw bishop.

Well now that there's pressure.. damn it.. never mind :-(

Yes

>.

Wow i feel the total opposite haha 🤣🤣 Back in the days there wasn't that much references and the top prices were 300ish only for a few and rarely pushing in the 400 maybe for 1 or 2 models...now...😶😶🙄🤣🤣 So to me it was kinda easier to choose as you hadn't have to play "where's charly" to find the very important difference that could change your entire life between 2 boards from the same manufacturer 😂 Sadly DFI is only making industrial boards now, hopefully EVGA's still around but isn't distributed in every country 😥

Go watch Gear Seekers! They do motherboard overviews and show everything!

Efficient enough to be slowed down at win 11 and constant hardware issues? Sheesh, AMD is for poor people.

@@maemilev POV: you have no idea of anything

@@maemilev In what year are you living? Certainly not in 2021

@@maemilev Poor me with my 5900X and 911 GT3.

@@maemilev You need to check your facts. AMD has some killer CPUs out there, and I use Intel in my gaming machine currently. Especially the higher end AMD products. Surely you’ve seen them review them on this channel.

Apes ?

Become a member of Hardware Unboxed or Gamers nexus then ask them. LTT is just fancy not too deep of any details.

Id love to see more Anthony! Like if you agree or don't and be shamed

@@technews5020 "Like if you agree or don't and be shamed" I hoped those comments would stop when 2005 Kids have grown up ..

Irrelevant

@@trashblob How when it was always the 20+ people writing these comments=

Nah I bought a Strix x570f for that sweet sweet RGB 😃

And always check reviews if there are weak points.

Thanks :)

I buy whatever Buildzoid tells me to buy. He said buy a MSI B550 Unify-X. I bought a B550 Unify-X. He said buy dual-rank Samsung B-die. I bought dual-rank Samsung B-die. (the B550 Unify-X is a full-featured ATX motherboard with 2 DIMM slots and ridiculous overclocking potential)

Just did that recently and ended up with a board that has "Gaming" in its name... (ROG Strix B550-A Gaming)

That's why the view ratios are so low

You should marry him if you love him so much

Anthony is the end-product of the collaboration of a lot of very talented individuals. For that matter, so is Linus. No denigration intended.

I Agree

Agreed, I really don't like Intel! And I like the cost of the AMD chips over the Intel processor price!

Said similar in another comment, I nominate x570 Tomahawk if they do Ryzen.

What's the point? Performance differences will still be minimal probably even moreso.

@@wanderingwobb6300 what's the point in any thorough testing of literally anything?

wow this aged like fine milk 😂

probably only because your previous motherboard vrms sucked and wont allow full cpu boost

@@Tonyx.yt. why wouldn't that show in Cinebench, Geekbench, 3DMark, or any other game benchmark I could think of? It literally only showed in Assassin's Creed!

@@jasondailey9402 ac creed games are heavy on CPU about other stuff probably they don't last that long to show any differents while you spent much more time in games which means more load for your cpu

@@jasondailey9402 because it doesnt have pcie 4.0 it uses 3.0 so your GPU performance increased not cpu

@@jasondailey9402 because it would depend on a ton of setting in the bios, windows, etc.

He _should_ explain Linux for five full hours, then I’d probably learn and understand enough to switch to Linux full time lol.

I was told like a hundred times that I should get the OC board just bc I'm getting (got) an unlocked cpu. Even though I dont need OCing bc im not gaming on this, using it as a DAW machine. Should I waste my money on the $200 z590 mobo or go cheaper, despite having an unlocked cpu? It seems like only one person I spoke with had any sort of intelligence whatsoever, and told me that itd be perfectly normal to have an Unlocked cpu on a non-OC board. But ultimately I let all these ppl get to my head lol what do

Yeah love to see this same thing but with AMD chips

@@Brandon-bc5um I mean, I kind of want to ask at that point then "well if you don't want the better VRMs and want to cheap out on the board, and you don't want to do any overclocking, then why don't you try to save the money on a K sku and just get the non-K instead?" @XeroShifter See this is my thing, which is that lots of people doing this are just kids wanting to play their favourite triple A game and sometimes the kind of person that goes "I'll give you $200 to overclock my RAM" which sure, there's many advantages to PC gaming, but you eventually just start to go "I mean, you could consider a console, even though they suck." Everyone who builds a machine liek this is going to be using it as a computer for multiple purposes, and people are so damn shortsighted in modern Western culture top to bottom that it's like, even the question of questioning what they may need to use it for in the future never occurs to them. So like, you may be playing PUBG right now, but maybe you'll get into photo editing later. Or maybe you end up needing it to work. I guess it's hard to explain concisely but just the sense of possibilities is there alongside problems you often don't ask when learning to build. I know it's the least glamourous seeming part (other than, PSU maybe?) but just like the PSU, it shouldn't be completely cheaped out on just because it is "boring" but you don't need to overspend either. I disagree with the logic that "if you didn't ask for this feature you don't need it" mentality because the now isn't later, and if you really want to understand this extreme stay on a Dell or HP prebuilt for years and years on end and then come back and tell me the motherboard doesn't matter. It's just hard when it's kids or old people, or otherwise someone so clueless they can't figure out the right question to ask and it becomes a bit of inference and guesswork. But yes, generally you don't want to be stuck on a shitty 4pin EPS having, VRM or chipset heatsink lacking, 4 SATA port having, no third PWM pins locked down BIOS'd piece of shit for seemingly endless frustrating years of your life. I said this before and say it again, your motherboard is the one and only component you will likely never replace or upgrade. Even your power supply, might be that someday nVidia releases a 600w drawing literal meme, and you actually have to get a better PSU anyway. You'll likely get a new RAM kit sometime maybe, and you'll probably replace your CPU once and upgrade your GPU twice, on average, but you're probably never going to unscrew that board itself from your case from the very first moment you screw it into your standoffs, and if you ever do, it's just going to be to take the cooler backplate off, so no, I don't think you should cheap out on anywhere from 6 to 10+ years of its (and your) lifetime just to save an extra fifty bucks.

@@pandemicneetbux2110 right now k sku are cheaper than non

@@gormauslander lulz really?

Me looking at my dual CPU server I use as a NAS, plex and rendering

me looking at my 4CPU opteron server...

Knock knock! Who's there? It's threadripper!

@@JamesErath my entire 20 core 40 thread 128gb RAM server cost less then a single threadripper chip, so I think I'll stick with it

@@BrumBrumBryn I didn't say it was cheap, just that it exists 🤷🏼‍♂️

Deadhead.. Check who is the writer

Should be similar in outcome, same principle applied

Happy American Thanksgiving.

(relieved Canadian turkey noises)

That's just the thing. Thermal throttling doesn't always happen at the same temps. It isn't always the same value for every CPU and every motherboard. So testing this would be significantly tedious and time consuming and honestly not worth the work. But that's just my opinion on the matter. Always open to feedback.

I have the same issue. I also have a b450 pro wifi with an 7900xtx and 5900x cpu my FPS went from 90 FPS to 130 FPS in warzone....

PCIe slot itself supplies up to 75 watts, all the other power comes from the 12v lines coming from your PSU. The motherboard will definitely not be affecting power to GPU, only CPU. You don't describe any of the problems you are having (low FPS? stuttering? etc) so its tough to narrow down your issue, but it is 1000% not a GPU power issue. You are probably bottlenecked by slow RAM or storage. Those warnings GPU-Z are giving you are simply telling you that the card is already maxed out and you are hitting non changeable internal limits on voltage.

@TC It seems like my fps is lower than it should be for what the gpu is. I mostly play American truck simulator but also play snowrunner, a couple of the doom games, and a few others. On ATS and snowrunner, I get near 100 fps according to the 99% display on nvidias overlay. My render latency is about 20ms average. It'll go down between 10 and 15. I feel like it should be better. I have an older asus monitor (75hz refresh using display port) and recently upgraded to ryzen 7 5700X, ram to 32 gb 3200mhz, and added 1tb m.2 to the 1tb sata ssd that's was already in the system. Is that 75w pcie power limit the same for all current motherboards? Maybe I'm just not understanding or aware of the physical limits of my gpu. I've seen power usage for 30 series cards reach around 350w. I know my card is a different series. Maybe my expectations are too high. 🤷‍♂️

@@laid-backgarage4412 The 75W is a limitation of the PCIE port and it is the same for all boards. If your GPU needs 200W of power then PCIE on your motherboard will supply 75W which the MoBo knows about since it goes through it but the rest of the power, 125W, go directly from the PSU through the 8-pin PCIE connector on the side towards the case. The GPU should be able to measure how much it draws overall but I don't think the motherboard would know.

Damn u got a 750w psu and im here building a pc with an rtx2070 and 5900x with only a 550w psu.. Should be enough right?

Even the cheapest boards have a 3 year warranty, same as the expensive ones It's one of those things where if better boards held up alot better it would be reflected in the warranty period. You see this all the time in HDDs, SSDs and power supplies. Spend more on something and most of the time companies will guarantee it for longer.

@@Frank_Pods do they still boot-loop the first 2 seconds at startup? (after power disconnect) i.e. 2s on, 2s off, on sometimes even more loops depending on the board. Linus had one with 3 off cycles.

Agreed