How Much In Argos!? | The Most Expensive Consoles & Home Computers In Todays Money! | 1980- 2000

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Seb's Place

Күн бұрын

Were Commodore 64's really for rich kids? Was the humble Speccy actually that humble? Come join me whilst I look back through the Christmas Argos Catalogues between 1980 and 2000, and find out which consoles and Home Computers were the most expensive in todays money!
Credits:
MegaPC Advert ‪@vhsvideovault‬
MegaPC Videos ‪@RMCRetro‬
Acorn Elite ‪@xianpinder‬
Acorn Quest For Gold ‪@JASPP‬
Star Trek 6 ‪@MOVIECLIPS‬
MadDog CDI ‪@bobskiesretrotech655‬
7800 Asteroids ‪@worldoflongplays‬
Sega Tower ‪@unboxingthepast‬
Commodore Ad ‪@MadFranko008‬
Spectrum Ad ‪@applemacintoshosx‬
Argos Ad ‪@ppotter‬
00:00 Intro
02:32 Top 30
10:26 Top 20
16:38 Top 10

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@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the mention Seb, I do LOVE an Argos catalogue
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 7 ай бұрын
Cheers Neil, I do too but they go for silly money for physical copies sadly. Would be great for the cave!
@Idelacio
@Idelacio 4 ай бұрын
lol, Chris Barrie narrating that advert though.
@rambledogs2012
@rambledogs2012 7 ай бұрын
I remember the Megadrive was being sold in Woolies (which I seem to also remember being £199) and was in awe at the graphics, John Maddens footy being one I thought was epic. I asked my folks for it and got the Master System instead. Alex Kidd in Miracle World is now imprinted on my memory.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 7 ай бұрын
Ah man sooo close! I mean the master system rocks but at that point, it would have felt so old compared to the MD. I feel your pain x
@rambledogs2012
@rambledogs2012 7 ай бұрын
@@SebsPlaceYT It does rock but yes, at that time it felt somewhat antiquated compared to the Mega Drive. Still, it beat the Dragon 32 I was rocking.
@newsbender
@newsbender 7 ай бұрын
Oh man, gutted!
@paulphillips546
@paulphillips546 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant video, the Argos catalogue and circling what you wanted then hoping it came was a ritual for us all back then. That Vic-20 pack was the first computer I had, though my mum bought it at Goldbergs. She was attracted to all the extras it came with over a 16k Spectrum at much the same price. I still loved it and continue to have a soft spot for the old Vic.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 7 ай бұрын
Cheers for the comment. I love the nostalgia.Vic 20 was awesome. it was just surprising how much it held its price.!
@dennyhaynes3
@dennyhaynes3 8 ай бұрын
My first computer was the Vic-20 which my folks got me from Beatties in Wolverhampton. I remember the games behind a glass cabinet guarded like they were the crown jewels. My eyes used to glase over always wondering what the game was like, lets be honest most were crap but it was from there i had Matrix. The best game on the system and the first video i did for my channel. Amazing the price difference from then, just shows how expensive they were back then. Yes the Argos book was like having both the TV times and Radio times for Christmas, an annual tradition for our house hold. Great video again mate 👍
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 8 ай бұрын
I only properly relax after putting a video out when you leave a comment mate. I wait for them. And as usual you didn't disappoint. I think the Vic20 is a suprise in this list that they held the price quite high late on. Great memories mate.
@dennyhaynes3
@dennyhaynes3 8 ай бұрын
@@SebsPlaceYT It's one thing I absolutely love about our hobby is our memories. Growing up in the era is something quite special for us all 👍
@trailersic
@trailersic 6 ай бұрын
Thing is about the advert for the Mega PC is it perfectly illustrates why you would be better off buying a separate Megadrive and PC, so dad wouldn't have to kick the kid off every time he wanted to work.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 very true!
@philipbain
@philipbain 6 ай бұрын
The MegaPC worked as a marketing strategy though, rather than buying a good pc without a Megadrive for similar money you instead bought an outmoded 386 (in 1993? Seriously Alan Sugar?) Fitted with what was essentially a Megadrive on a card! I know not 1 but 2 people that had one as a child, needless to say neither survived!
@GamerbugUK
@GamerbugUK 2 ай бұрын
Ah the Vectrex, we had one my dad got off a car boot (Had a Vic 20 from the car boot as well), and I think we had a grand total of 3 games, the Asteroids game, the Berserk game and Spike with the respective screen cover things. Never ever saw another game and eventually we got rid of it.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 2 ай бұрын
Ah man.... Imagine seeing one now at a car boot! Very unlikely 😣
@tonyduffy7441
@tonyduffy7441 7 ай бұрын
Ah, the 112 variations is referring to the Atari 2600 version of space invaders. It has a silly number of combinations of visible/ invisible invaders, different missile settings and static/moving shields - plus 1 or 2 player co-op / vs modes for each of those.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 7 ай бұрын
Ah ok. Thank you. I did wonder if it was something like that, but 112 seemed excessive. Thanks for letting me know.
@JesterEric
@JesterEric 4 ай бұрын
It also had the secret two shot mode if you hold down reset while turning on the VCS
@kidladonsawesomevids1842
@kidladonsawesomevids1842 4 ай бұрын
Great video seb!!!😀😃
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@tonyp3824
@tonyp3824 7 ай бұрын
Just watching this video, I could almost smell the Argos catalogue! Love the video, thanks for uploading and I look forward to more.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, very kind
@zimzam9166
@zimzam9166 3 ай бұрын
I'm watching this whilst on the throne
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 3 ай бұрын
Lol. Enjoy! 😁😁
@paulclay4293
@paulclay4293 Ай бұрын
I bought my speccy from Hillards superstore, using money I earned performing in Cameron Macintosh’s Oliver! at Manchester’s Palace theatre. True story
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT Ай бұрын
That's a great story! More Spectrum please sir!!!
@paulclay4293
@paulclay4293 Ай бұрын
@@SebsPlaceYT more?!!!
@voodoochile333
@voodoochile333 8 ай бұрын
Those PC prices are crazy.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 8 ай бұрын
Yeah flippin bonkers
@gamingtonight1526
@gamingtonight1526 5 ай бұрын
I paid 169 quid for a 16K RAM expansion, for my VIC-20, just so I could play an imported U.S. RPG that had a HUGE map, and 24 dungeons!!!
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 5 ай бұрын
Wow, not a small amount of money back then!!!!
@seraphinberktold7087
@seraphinberktold7087 3 сағат бұрын
That Philips G700 at number 22 surely has the wrong year attached to it. This system came out in 1978 and I woud be very surprised to see it in a catalogue from 1997.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT Сағат бұрын
Blimey, this video has been out 8 months, done okish on views, I must have watched it fifty times to check everything was correct and boom. Wrong date on the G7000. There was no chance Argos were trying to shift that in 1997 😂 Thanks for the spot! (Is a great home computer though, I ended up buying one which I did a video about somewhere). Cheers!
@scottbreon9448
@scottbreon9448 Ай бұрын
I would say in the Uk the Beeb was the actual rich kid computer, whereas the C64 would be more of the upper middle-class computer., kind of like here in North America, the Apple II was the rich kid computer around this time, whereas the early IBM DOS computers would have been the upper middle-class computers. Whereas the C64 was actually one of the cheaper options here in NA (believe it or not)
@pinkyn0se
@pinkyn0se 3 ай бұрын
JT should be JR, so is a misprint I would say. Especially as R and T are next to each other on a Qwerty kb. The JR was introduced in 1986, and the image in the catalogue is that first version of the JR with the narrow rainbow on the silver centre section.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 3 ай бұрын
Yep agreed. Cheers!
@MT-cd7cs
@MT-cd7cs 2 ай бұрын
That Atari 600XL page looks like it had time travel built in.. I’m sure that’s a digital representation of the White Stripes. Explains the price.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 2 ай бұрын
Haha - I gonna have to re check that out now...
@zimzam9166
@zimzam9166 3 ай бұрын
There should be a comparison of the cost per hour of gameplay for these consoles. Because 300 quid spent on today's money on a 2600 with space Invaders will last last you no more than 30 mins a time, but 500 on a ps5 with gran turismo 7 has hundreds of hours of gameplay
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 3 ай бұрын
Hi - Back then, though, the 2600 was special.
@juststatedtheobvious9633
@juststatedtheobvious9633 8 ай бұрын
The CDi can play games without the videocard. Retro Twitch has been happy to show off the horrors lurking within that library.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 8 ай бұрын
Oh really!!! Yikes!!
@garyhart6421
@garyhart6421 6 ай бұрын
I got my ZX Spectrum 48k Plus around 1985 ? For £50 (mail order) it was DOA --- It was quickly replaced, but the time wasted and disappointment hurt. Yup, the 1200 had 2 meg --- Silly Argos
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 6 ай бұрын
£50 seems a good price! I was surprised Argos never stocked it.
@jssonstevens59
@jssonstevens59 8 ай бұрын
Amiga A1200 were all shipped with 2mb
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 8 ай бұрын
I thought so. Thanks. So a typo then?
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz 5 ай бұрын
There are 2 platforms that are by and away the most expensive ever. 1) PC/Mac In the late 80s and early 90s, name brand PCs were thousands of Dollars. The MAC II was like 6 grand brand new in 1987! PCs weren't much better, often breaking the 4000 Dollar price range. 2) Neogeo. I was absolutely floored at seeing a neogeo in a Kiddy City for $795 and the games averaging between $200 and $250 in the early 90s.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 5 ай бұрын
Yeah PC prices were crazy. The cheapest one I could find easily topped this list!! I played on an actual neogeo for the first time last weekend at rmc's cave and I was disappointed with the joystick controller. Felt platicky for all the money you were spending! Cheers for the comment!
@plisskensghost2951
@plisskensghost2951 3 ай бұрын
Bit weird Argos not having the base cpc464, i would have thought they would have sold it. Shame as they always go together.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I was surprised that they didn't stock 8 bits for a bit. Unless they were in a supplement or in store only. Not sure.
@jasejj
@jasejj 8 ай бұрын
Why would you include the C64C and various Amiga/ST variants, but not the Spectrum +2? And was the CPC (or GX4000) really never sold in Argos?
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 8 ай бұрын
Nope. +2 nowhere to be seen in argos. Im Mr Spectrum so would have been all over it, but not there..... CPC nope. I couldn't find it.
@juststatedtheobvious9633
@juststatedtheobvious9633 8 ай бұрын
@@SebsPlaceYT Any chance of doing a best bargains follow-up? It looked like the Master System was a contender.
@JesterEric
@JesterEric 4 ай бұрын
Working people had more money to spend on things like Spectrums under Thatcher. VAT alone increases the prices 2.5-5% today. The overall tax burden fell to 28% in 1993. It was risen steeply since 1997 mainly in the form of indirect stealth taxes to 35% and rising today. Housing and energy costs are also much higher today. The China effect has made electronics cheaper
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 4 ай бұрын
I had the same conversation with my Dad recently, and he pretty much said the same thing. Really interesting, thanks.
@hawkeyepearce1066
@hawkeyepearce1066 3 ай бұрын
I bought a worryingly large number of those machines back in the day, which probably explains my current pitiable financial status. For reference, I only have one of those machines now (my A1200, which I've never been able to bring myself to part with). Did I waste my money (and youth) on these things? probably. Do I REGRET any of those purchases? ABSOLUTELY NOT!
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 3 ай бұрын
Love this 😍 and glad you still have that A1200 !
@harrylongbone8149
@harrylongbone8149 7 ай бұрын
what a fantastic content choice if only it was 12 hours longer.. no 24 hours longer :)
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 7 ай бұрын
Cheers mate, very kind.. Took me long enough to do 20 minutes tho 😄
@greenaum
@greenaum 7 ай бұрын
It wasn't the Atari 2600 JT, it was the 2600 Jr. "Junior". The 112 variations is Space Invaders, there really were that many variations, but that's really just lots of combinations, how many ways you can permute the options it had. There were some weird ones though like "invisible invaders", where you couldn't see the invaders til you hit them, cos... they were invisible! The 7800 was in no way outclassed by the NES. The 7800 was better in quite a few ways, though it's resolution in full-colour mode was lower. It had a very nice graphics chip in it though, otherwise. It's a toss-up which is better, if the 7800 had sold as well as the NES, companies would have been able to spend similar amounts on creating their games, which they obviously didn't, you can tell by playing them that they were pretty cheap.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I assumed it must have been a typo. Great comment mate thanks. I know a little about the 7800, so it's always interesting to hear other people's take on things, appreciate that.
@greenaum
@greenaum 7 ай бұрын
@@SebsPlaceYT Particularly, the 7800 wasn't limited by tile-mapping. It had a video processor similar to ANTIC, the one in the Atari 8-bit computer line, that could apply different parameters to each scanline, including changing resolution. The chip actually ran it's own machine code, in it's own language, albeit simple, but very versatile. In some ways quicker than tilemap, since you could change whole regions of the screen with just a few bytes. The lines were bitmapped. That can be slower to move graphics around on, but it's much more versatile, and there were still sprites. You can very much tell that the NES uses a tilemapped screen, every game looks the same in that way. Much less variety than real computer games of the time. Would've been nice if Atari hadn't considered 160 horizontal pixels to be a usable resolution, cos it really isn't, it's ugly. Good enough for the 2600 in the 1970s! It can do 320 though with colour. Actually that's probably because the machine was back-compatible with the 2600, a foolish decision in retrospect, though if they'd launched it in 1984. It was officially launched in 1986 but didn't get any sort of push til a couple of years later when it wasn't good enough. The sound is exactly the same as the 2600s, again '70s technology and awful. Also for compatibility, they should have just dropped that. Compatibility is also the reason the SNES has a crippled, slow, 8-bit CPU instead of a proper decent one like the Megadrive. In the end Nintendo abandoned NES compatiblity for the SNES, but the hardware is all in there, necessarily compromised, so third parties made NES adaptors easily. It's interesting to read the technical manuals for these things online. STELLA.DOC is a classis for the 2600, and the 7800's docs are out there too. They were written by the engineers, for games programmers to understand the system, and it really gives you the thinking behind the machines. Even if you don't understand everything you'll likely still be impressed and illuminated by what's there. Gives you an understanding of the scene at the time in general.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Super interesting, I'm going to hunt that document out. Although as you say I might not understand everything I just find things like this super interesting, thanks again.
@MousePotato
@MousePotato 7 ай бұрын
Was I ripped off. I remember paying £299 in 1996 for my Playstation.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 7 ай бұрын
Interesting. If you bought it at the beginning of the year, then it's feasible as the 199 price was for Christmas 96. But yeah 100 quid drop is quite big!!!
@MousePotato
@MousePotato 7 ай бұрын
@@SebsPlaceYT I think it was 3 days after it came out.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 7 ай бұрын
Ah ok, so prob late 1995 then. Still quite a price drop!
@MousePotato
@MousePotato 7 ай бұрын
@@SebsPlaceYT Now I think of it, it was late November 1995.
@philipbain
@philipbain 6 ай бұрын
I bought the £99 Dual Shock Pack PSX in 1998, got a nice discount on a memory card and controller too, gave it straight to my mate who returned it to me the next day chipped with a stack of CDRs with all the top titles of the day! Bought it with my own money I earned being a slave in a kitchen at a restaurant part time at the age of 17! I have only ever been gifted 2 consoles, my Sega Dreamcast from my best mate and my Sony PlayStation 5 (phat disc) from my wife and I have anything that isn't a Nintendo, Sega fanboy til I die!
@katieblackmore2004
@katieblackmore2004 4 ай бұрын
This is what makes me laugh about the whiners and moaners of today's gaming. Gaming today, has produced the biggest bunch of complaining idiots on the planet..... One thing they complain about is the cost. In terms of hobbies, gaming is among the cheapest and that hasn't really risen in price very much at all. I am 44.... I remember games being between £34.99 to £44.99 on the NES Mega Drive games i got with my parents for my birthday, we went in too Southampton city centre, Virgin Megastore and i got Madden and Road Rash on the Mega Drive, both were around the £45 each. When you look at games on the Series X, PS5 today...... Unless you buy the big deluxe editions, games are between £39.99 and £59.99. Iv'e been gaming since the 80's and the price of games has hardly risen from 1985 too 2024. Yet you still get people whining about the cost.
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 4 ай бұрын
Yeah. Those mega drive games like virtual racing that had extra chips in them were off the chart expensive compared to now!
@SelfIndulgentGamer
@SelfIndulgentGamer 8 ай бұрын
JT=Just Terrible 😅
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 8 ай бұрын
Haha love it!!!
@juststatedtheobvious9633
@juststatedtheobvious9633 8 ай бұрын
Typo for JR, maybe?
@SebsPlaceYT
@SebsPlaceYT 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it must be.
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