Brilliant! I’m stealing this statement/analogy thanks.

And we’ve eaten half the steak kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ocBxbKuf1ZnFhmg.html

@@life42theuniverse and farted a lot of deadly steak farts.. also killed many people because of that steak.

There is no fart from steak. Ask anyone on keto. We have no climate crisis.

@@nescius2Brilliant. You must have a degree in women’s studies.😅

As a redditor: normies don't want to hear it. They are too emotionally invested in this ride.

@@JohnnyBelgium Sorry to bust your bubble - but Simon Michaux lied to you. EUROPEAN WINTERS: His paper is all based on a 2014 studies about European renewables getting through a cold dark winter. But most of the human race lives much closer to the equator where there is no winter. THEN these studies are 10 years out of date - back when renewables were 10 TIMES more expensive! Overbuilding the grid to cope was economically impossible. So they concluded they needed 4 weeks of storage to get through winter. But today renewables are so cheap we can Overbuild the grid. EG: If winter halves renewables output, then build DOUBLE the renewables! With enough Overbuild and enough HVDC Transmission - most places can get their storage down to 2 days. DUMBEST MOVE: Michaux assumes we're too dumb to check his sources. In fact, his PDF doesn't LET you check his source for rejecting the cheapest grid storage - Pumped-Hydro Electricity Storage (PHES). Michaux claims there are difficulties finding enough sites. Really? What study is that based on? His 1000 page PDF didn’t say! But here he slips up and admits it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gqinZbKHvMq7eYU.html This is a study about PHES in Singapore. Singapore - where the highest hill is only 15 metres! Gee - I wonder why they had a problem finding enough sites! (Duh!) He uses this study to cast doubt on PHES for the world when most continents have 100 TIMES the PHES sites they could need. I call this lie “Painting the world Singapore!” Professor Andrew Blakers from the ANU presents the REAL story. Most countries have 100 times what they need - and if they don’t (like Singapore) - a neighbour does. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbKbZsid2pnelmg.html They have identified the 616,000 best sites around the world. re100.eng.anu.edu.au/global/ ABUNDANT MATERIALS: While many brands of renewables and batteries CAN use rare earth’s for certain niche markets, they do not HAVE to - and most are already weaning off them because of price and supply issues (especially with China being problematic.) EG: 95% of Solar brands ALREADY mainly use silicon - which is 27% of the Earth’s crust. Wind is made from iron (5%), aluminium (8%) and fibreglass (renewable glass fibres and renewable polyester resins). Half of Tesla’s batteries are LFP (Lithium Iron Phosphate). The USGS reserves from 2022 show we have TEN TIMES the lithium we need for a world of 1.4 billion LPF EV's. SODIUM BATTERIES: Sodium batteries are now a thing. BYD are building a super cheap city-shopping car called the "Seagull", with a mere 250km range but only costing $9000 USD. Sodium is less fire prone, less toxic, and 30% cheaper than lithium. Being cheap and fire safe it’s perfect for grid batteries for a few hours (but PHES is cheaper.) 1 ton of sodium battery could run a large family’s home for 5 days - and the 38.5 quadrillion tons in the ocean is enough to store the world's electricity consumption for 152,173 years! Or to flip it around, a whole year of the world's electricity would take just 0.0006% of the ocean’s salt! Michaux published in August 2021 and said Sodium batteries were still in the lab. But sodium was well past the lab, and was into commercialisation. Indeed, the first ORDERS for sodium batteries had already been placed with Faradion over a year earlier. Michaux was making extraordinary claims about batteries - he should have taken extraordinary care! faradion.co.uk/faradion-receives-first-order-of-sodium-ion-batteries-for-australian-market/ SPEED of deployment: Solar and wind - even including the extra costs of transmission and PHES - are now the cheapest power, period. Their growth is exponential. Solar is doubling every 4 years - wind seems to be doubling about every decade. Australia will be 80-90% renewables by 2030. 10% of all cars sold are EV’s, and huge electric trucks like Janus Australia with their 1 minute-battery swap are creeping into the market. It’s starting, and will only accelerate. We’ll leave all fossil fuels way before they leave us.

Here in Europe we're too busy whining about "human rights". It's so pathetic.

You need to go off grid.

EU will find out, but it’ll be too late.

Thank you for articulating this. I was just going to swear but I don’t feel the need anymore.

And we really should be doing CHP will most power plants... And that can absolutely be done with the spent fuel... We shouldn't be just dumping that heat into the environment. District Heating, Industy, etc. should just become the default use for that heat... With the cooling towers, river/sea just being used to bump up the efficiency and as a full sized backup.

@@cheeseandjamsandwich Nuclear plants are situated many miles from populations and industry so using the decay heat for other purposes is not feasible. Unless we start building them in the middle of a city, your idea can’t happen.

@@kennethkaminski3438 Russia have been doing combines heat and power with nukes for decades... in fact a lot of district heating exists in the cities of the far north... it's really quite common.... One example i've personally seen is in Longyearbyen, in Svalbard, 800 miles from the north pole... their 2 boiler coal burning power plant feeds every single building in the town... and as it's permafrost, every pipe is above ground, heavily lagged, insulated, with the occasional reheat station dotted around. Fascinating to see. And very, very warm in their buildings! When you have a LOT of 'spare', waste heat, especially from big/multi reactor units, then the big pipes can pipe it a long way. So heating a local town, city is really not unfeasible. But the most important thing to consider is that 'we' often get distracted by thinking only of domestic needs for heat and electricity... Partly why wind and solar is considered feasible... as people think we only need a little bit of juice to run a house, and a big enough roof can power the house with solar... when there's not a cloudy/rainy spell... We have to remember that it's industry that we really need to decarbonise the most... as it's needs soooooooo so much energy. Indeed, a huge number of NPPs are built off out in remote areas... For safety and perceived safety reasons... Why not collocate specific industries out near them, ones that need a huge amount of process heat, that waste heat from npps can deliver. Win, win. It's just about actively seeking out who could best use it and giving incentives, easing planning applications such that they can move closer. Some industries may be able to be located right outside the boundary... perhaps others will be further down the road. But the fact remains that far too much useful heat is being dumped into rivers, the sea or the atmosphere via cooling tower. It's just a simple waste. And when you do do chp, the economics of your plant greatly increases! As the gas guys know. Also. We are nearing the deployment of SMRs... their much smaller core, thermal mass simply means that the melt down risk is massively reduced, passive safety, where walk away safety absolutely is a thing. This massively reduces the safety zone size... allowing for much closer siting of the npp.... And if we go to the next step, when we do have molten salt reactors up and running, working well, then their near 1 bar working pressure means that they have almost no requirement for any safety zone outside of the npp's buildings... So these absolutely could be place inside cities. As my couple of trips to the far north, Nordic countries showed me, there's a lot of cities that like to keep their power generation right in, or on the edge of their cities... As if the power went out, say due to an ice storm bringing transmission lines down, your city freezes, and people die. (Canada in the 90s). Even the shit we're seeing today with Putin bombing Ukraine's grid... It all leans us towards having some smaller power stations located much closer to the load centres, the cities, industry, etc. This will account for a big chunk of energy security.

@@kennethkaminski3438 TL;DR We just haven't bothered to do combined heat and power much yet... When we start doing it more, it'll prove to be something that will probably be included with every npp project. Feeding industry and domestic needs.

That is precisely the same conclusion I've reached after an exhaustive deep dive into this subject. The Thorium/Uranium Energy Cycle and Direct Process Heat would allow humanity to continue in the manner to which it's become accustomed. Widespread deployment of assembly line-manufactured Small Modular Reactors make this concept both financially viable and technically feasible. Renewables simply will not meet the total requirements, but they can serve as an acceptable stop-gap to reduce the total amount of CO2 emitted during the interim while 4th generation reactors are tested and deployed.

The “challenge “ is insurmountable as long as politicians continue to push this anti human,Luddite approach to energy production

No the challange isnt big at all,its supereasy to save a lot of energy if we change our weastfull lifestyle!

@@simonjohn6156 It’s a shame such little thought has been applied to this obvious hoax. It’s obvious no one has taken two seconds to examine this problem. Even if it were true, we’re going about everything absolutely in the wrong way, but that’s the way lobbying works. It’s an absolute cruel joke on the poor and middle-class perpetrated by our political class of morons.

You going to swap a 1000-2000 pound battery like it was a double A?

@@Aidan42781 Stupid comment

Exactly my thought.

@@Aidan42781a perfect reply and funny as hell😂😂😂😂

Like what? Laptops, tablets (iPads), phones, battery powered power tools and most other serious devices almost all have built in batteries (unfortunately). About only things that don’t are toys. Has been like this for most of last 10 years. So what are you talking about????

What would Galen Winsor say about it?

Uranium is a finite fuel ..just around 10% of world generation..Diesel petrol produce 10Kwatts per liter/quart...vehicle energy from these 6.5 billon Kwatts per 1:11:48 day.. transportation would need energy and batteries of around 70,000,000,000 billion Kwatts every day..how much copper what weight batteries green restart is illusion with present population ..food energy requirements (this is 1/3 of total world energy produced every day) ..

20 million tons of batteries needed to store present rate of transport...lifespan of batteries 7 years

Yea what the hell, Simon had a super bad take on this. I mean you need to operate a few pump to keep it cool (not tomention you may find a way to use the small amount of wasteheat which ofc not that easy to use but still) is this really substract anything significant from the energy production of a reactor, because I don't think so. Beside all that, I would imagine that is included in the EROEI right ? Nuclear has the highest EROEI (geothermal exluded cause Idk about that but it's probably lower) so basically that answers the concerns.

A lot of very smart people have a hard time artculating things when put on the spot. He tried to say various things at once so maybe it got lost. I'm going to try to see what he said about this. He mentioned understanding the whole fuel cycle. He also mentioned thorium. He mentioned a point in time that is at the "end" which is 75 years from now after having built 1875 reactors. So the year is 2098 and we have had quite a number of reactors running for a while. I assume he thinks we're actually running very low on fossil resources so we need all the energy we can get from the reactors vs spending it on inputs as energy is actually really constrained now. He mentions the whole fuel cycle. With that many reactors running for that long we might be running out of Uranium too. That means that we need to take it from the Ocean at high cost and high energy cost. If we did it now it would cost 600 bucks per pound but in the year 2098 energy is constrained. The enrichment process is also very energy intensive. I don't know why he focusses on the trash. Is it a space thing? We will have new plants so those new plants will come with their own pool area for the short storage. Maybe he assumes we will use less enriched uranium or other degradations in the fuel so it becomes less efficient and therefore we have more waste? He also seems to imply that for this whole thing to work we need thorium or any more advanced reactor design so that we make sure the energy equations square when we run out of cheap uranium. I still have no idea what he tried to really say. Also not sure why it was edited out, maybe he clearly looked like an idiot for a nuclear savy crowd and so Dr. Keefer took this out out of kindness and to not degrade his credibility on mining which he surely knows more about.

Simon Michaux claims the world doesn’t have enough metal for the energy transition. But it turns out his impressive 1000 page paper is all based on 3 strawman attacks - and he’s hoping to hide these false claims by overwhelming readers in details. False claim 1: We’d need 4 weeks storage to get through winter. This is a myth. Read most peer-reviewed renewables papers and they consciously measure winter looking for “Dunkelflautes” - and then overbuild the wind and solar for them. Most nations can be balanced by 2 days storage. According to Michaux’s own numbers on metal resources there is enough metal for this. False claim 2: That they HAVE to build grid-scale batteries. He dismisses pumped hydro dude to availability concerns, but hasn’t considered off-river. Most continents have 100 TIMES MORE off-river potential than they need! False claim 3: That renewables need the fancier metals. They don’t. There are ways to build wind and solar and batteries from vastly more abundant plainer metals. The WHOLE PREMISE of the paper is a ridiculous strawman! I’ve gathered the evidence here. eclipsenow.wordpress.com/2023/01/13/professor-simon-michaux-how-to-strawman-renewables-and-ignore-industry-standards/

​@@eclipsenow5431 Energy density is the killer though. Wind and solar are very low density. And batteries are too. It's just the limitations of chemistry, physics. Things we cannot argue with. Like not at all. We'll never receive more that 1kw of solar energy per square meter on the earths surface, and only in the ideal location, and with the ideal conditions. Never. And hardly anyone live in these areas, cos it so damn hot and dry. And where do people live? They mostly live in regions that simply are not that windy. Annoying eh. And again, hardly anyone lives in regions where hydro or pumped storage is even possible. The UK has fantastic wind resources, but it'll struggle to have more % wind on it's grid. Every other country simply won't be able to entertain it. And Intermittency, this is the other killer. There's nothing we can do about the day/night cycle, and there's no way to have constant wind. Dunkelflaute is just a real observation of how our weather is. If the whole of Europe is experiencing a period of low wind, then it's fucked. If it's backed by gas (which it will have to be), then the prices will go even more exponetial than we've ever seen, and many countries will receive none as there simply couldn't be enough supply for a resource that's used intermittently. Power cuts kill people. You cannot run industry with randomly fluctuating, intermittent energy supplies. You cannot make a wind turbine, or it's massive steel and concrete foundations without enormous amounts of uninterrupted heat and electricity. You cannot make solar panels or the aluminium frames without enormous amounts of uninterrupted heat and electricity. Wind and solar do not produce industrial amounts of heat. Wind and solar cannot generate the energy needed to make wind turbines and solar panels. Do you know how big a battery would have to be to power NYC, or London, or Tokyo even for 1 day? You can work it out. It's quite big.

​@@eclipsenow5431 The issue you may have is that you don't quite grasp the scale of the situation. This is an enormous problem. Fossil fuels have given us absolutely enormous amounts of energy, constantly. To replace fossil fuels, we need something that's 'better' that they are. As we have to do it completely, and quickly. Splitting atoms is a million times more energy dense than chemical reactions like burning stuff... Not an exaggeration. A million. With todays reactors, which are running, you get 2x more electricity out of a Nuclear rather than Coal fired power station, using the same concrete, steel, etc, etc. We need to fully replace coal. So we could replace all the existing coal plants with half as many nuclear ones. This is possible, don't you agree? All with using the same sites, the same grid infrastructure, but without the daily trains, the pipelines, etc. We really haven't optimised nuclear power yet... we're only a 70 years in, and we've done fuckall because of the irrational fear from Chornobyl and Fukushima, etc... We're gonna get very, very, very good at nuclear power in the next few decades. Nuclear power will eventually lead to us eliminating almost all the wind and solar generation around the world, apart form it's existing niche use cases we're already used to. And it'll eliminate it for the technically correct reasons. Nuclear power will be the thing that saves our arses.

@@cheeseandjamsandwich Hey - I'm a fan of nuclear - have been for maybe 15 years and even wrote in an environmental magazine about it. But it's unpopular - and it's illegal in Australia! When I became a fan of nuclear 15 years ago wind and solar were NEARLY that much more expensive. As in about a DOZEN TIMES that much more expensive. But now they're so cheap we can overbuild them for winter. Nuclear has a problem: nuclear builds take forever, are often blocked by opposition groups and challenged in court - and solar will soon be deploying about a TERAWATT per year! Wind and solar can be overbuilt for winter with extra backup from off-river pumped hydro - of which most continents have over 100 TIMES what they need. Pick your best 1% and you're done. No environmental damage - because it's a closed loop on someone's farm somewhere, or public land. Off-river. Build the dam and pump the water in from dozens of km's away later. Cover in solar panels to slow evaporation. Basically by the time we got the nuclear prohibition in Australia lifted - wind and solar will have already done the job. Solar should be 1/5 the cost of nuclear (in raw, unfirmed LCOE) by the end of the year.

@@eclipsenow5431 Great that you're a fan. I think things have changed, such that you might be able to have a more positive outlook on it. "But now they're so cheap we can overbuild them for winter.": Why are they so cheap now? It's a mixture of newer technology, scaling up of manufacturing, competition, optimisation of manufacturing processes and also installation, economies of scale... Everything is just standard stuff, typical reasons... The first few are expensive, then when you commit and make larger and larger orders, the price comes down. How much would making one iPhone cost? We already have the wonderful example of France, showing that you can build out a lot of NPPs for cheap and fast. South Korea are the very latest example. Look at what just happed in the UAE. "Wind and solar can be overbuilt for winter with extra backup ": This is where scale comes back in, like i mentioned previously. You really do have to overbuild it... by A LOT! And that takes a lot of resources, a lot more land, a lot more transmission lines, a lot more money, a lot more replacing everything you've overbuilt every 20-25 years. 'Just' building out some backup is an unbelievably massive task... How long do the Tesla batteries last on the grid in SA, etc? Minutes at most. They're a wonderful thing to have on a grid for so many normal grid management reason, but for grid scale backups, powering Syders or Melbs for a few days, that would require astronomically big batteries, which takes a huge amount of materials, more mining, more processing, etc. etc. And then yes, these would have to be replaced after however many years they last... Hydro... Hydro is VERY geographically dependent. If you have Fjords, like Norway or NZ, you're laughing. How much off-river PH is actually possible in OZ? realistically? It absolutely will face opposition and it absolutely will cause environmental damage making them. And do your rivers ever have problems with flow, drying up? Even the mighty Murray isn't immune. Remember, the weather is only gonna get more weird over the next decades... Meaning our stable, predictable seasons and water flows will not be there when we need them. Oz especially will probably have some horrifically dry spells where it's as dry as a dead dingo's dead dad's donger... For multiple years! Scale! With renewables, weather driven, intermittent power sources, you are forced to accept that the backup has to be of the same peak generating capacity as the load it's supplying... i.e. how many GW peak the whole grid can demand on the 'worst' day. This is because renewables really do have the ability to generate Zero Watts if the weather is a bit wrong... Obviously at night, there is zero power from solar. If there's a huge calm weather pattern over a the country, then there can be zero watts from wind. And in Oz, this would likely be coupled with very hot weather, so large demand! In Europe, the historical weather data includes periods of weeks where there would be almost zero output from wind and solar... Weeks!!! How big is a battery that can power the whole of Europe for 2-4 weeks??? It's hilariously ginormous! And even when the wind and sun comes back, you'd have to have overbuilt out the W&S such that you could recharge the batteries, PSH, etc. as probably the weather is only marginally better... The scale of this bonkers. I mean fucking amazingly bonkers. Cost: At the moment, we're running mostly on Coal and gas... Wonderful things, apart from all the pollution that has, is gonna fuck us in many ways... but apart from that, they're amazing. Very energy dense. Very portable, storable. Allows for extremely dispatchable electricity and heat. They require a few generating sites and a few mine sites, with trains/ships/terminals to link them together, and then transmission lines to link them to the cities... So the cost is Plants + Mines + transport + transmission. If you went big time W&S, you've only got part of the system that's needed. You HAVE to have W&S + Backup, where the backup is of the same generating capacity. So you're building out TWO sets of generation!!!! Ok, you don't need fuel. So that's a win. But you deffo need A LOT of mines for the 'continuous' manufacturing of turbines and panels, as they're such small generators individually. So many, many more mines that we have today (see multiple Decouple podcasts explaining this! Not just this one.). Fuel transport isn't needed, but the continuous transportation of new turbines and panels is not trivial, and has to go to many, many, many sites. Fossils = Thermal PPs (5-10% over peak demand capacity) + Mines/Wells (a lot!) + fuel transportation + transmission. Renewables = W&S (overbuilt, million, billion of units) + backup (overbuilt) + Extra transmission + replace W&S every 20 years + magnitude more mines for all materials. Nuclear = NPPs (5-10% over capacity)(but half as many!) + 5 mines globally! + existing transmission + 4 trucks per year to refuel!!! Oh, did we mention that W&S only create electricity? And that's only 1/4-1/3 of our energy needs. OK, concentrated solar can generate heat, but not in truly industrial scales, and nowhere near the existing industry that needs it. Remember, wind and solar can't produce the energy needed to manufacture wind turbines and solar panels. Where are you gonna buy the turbines and panels??? China. Which is really not a secure energy situation... As Russia just pointed out to us in a devastating manner. The devil is in the details... And more so in the scale, in this example. Wind & Solar will remain as amazing for niche uses, but will be (are already) an expensive folly that doesn't allow us to do the task at hand... Getting off of fossil sourced fuels. Cost is laughably in favour of Nuclear, by a huge margin. I dare you to do the basic sums... how many wind turbines would it take to power Oz today... same with solar panels... And then start factoring in all the capacity factors, and weather patters, and then consider the growth in energy needs of OZ in the future. It's far easier to just build out a few fleets of nuclear reactors around OZ. "But it's unpopular - and it's illegal in Australia!": Views change... Laws can be changed... And they absolutely will be! Everyone is waking up to the realities of the energy situation... They're looking at Germany, at Japan, at Ukraine... They're realising that energy security is THE most important thing. Not something to gamble with. Energy enables everything withing a country, its wellbeing, its prosperity, its stability, its future. Guess what, Coal and gas are also very unpopular!!! But Oz keeps using it, mining it, selling it... If Oz has to, it absolutely could just build out NPPs even without public support... As the situation demands it. But views are changing... People are questioning what Greenpeace have been spouting, what Helen has been spouting... They're realising that what they warned of hasn't happened... 3 meltdowns didn't kill anyone... That nuclear has been endlessly been portrayed as evil, when actually, it's just sat there, working, doing what we want, in a very nice reliable way, and it turn out that it's also wonderfully clean... Which is something that we really, really need, really quickly. WRT our climate 'problem'... It's not how fast we start to get off of fossils, but how fast we can get that job done, finish it. Yes, a nuclear power plant does take a few year to build, but as France, Japan, South Korea have demonstrated, if you build out fleets of them, concurrently, then in 10 years time you start having GW+ NPPs coming online every year, every few months. Australia isn't stupid... It just has a few greedy people in bad places that just want to keep it how it is... But the new folks coming in will see this as a wonderful opportunity... They're sitting on so, so much uranium... But why sell the ore, when you can sell the fuel bundles instead??? Why sell iron ore when you can sell steel instead??? Why sell copper and zinc and lead ores, when you can sell the metals instead??? All you need is gobs of energy... electricity and heat... That you can put next to the mines, or on the coast. Australia can sell the metals, not the ore. An nuclear power, SMRs, HTGRs, etc will allow it to do so... And as the world is changing towards the nuclear direction, Oz isn't gonna maintain its "stick in the mud" attitude when i realises that there's money to be made, and that coal is gonna go out of fashion. The law will be changed, university courses started, multiple vendors from South Korea, UK, Canada, USA, etc will be given the job of building out several reactors, large and small. Then Oz will jump into the nuclear game big time, developing a lot of domestic technology, capabilities, skills, as there's a whole world to repower. Wind & Solar will eventually fizzle out, back down to it's undeniable niche uses. And we'll have to clean up an enormous amount of sites in the coming decades. Don't worry, Australia will go nuclear. And in a big way. It absolutely will not miss out on this opportunity.

I`ve been thinking this too. I think it is going to be- The rich live alight, the rest have to survive somehow or die. And I think *they* know this...But I`m a pessimistic, rural bastard, so what do I know??? :/

You are thinking clearly, this is about reducing human population (by all means possible) to balance energy/all minerals against their calculations of time and consumption to reach an "optimal" population level.

I believe that if there is no nuclear collapse, only those tribal groups that live with what they have within their reach will survive.

The 0.01% will do whatever it takes to make sure they don't have to give up anything and everyone else makes the sacrifices, but this will do so much damage to the current world system that their luxuries just aren't going to be possible anymore in any form.

@@sonnyeasthamin 1990 after 20 years of farming , i woke up to the fact that humans are being farmed

Why bother with batteries at all. Why not use a pantograph. It is proven technology, and I am sure those trucks are predominantly driving up and down the same road all day long.

If you solve a problem everyone who makes money on the existance of the problem would find themselves out of jobs.

@@HontounoShiramizu aka "Breaking The Rice Bowls of the Power Elite"

"...could've decarbonized the world"???? You're delusional. Not worth arguing. Another champagne socialist from the privileged lap top class devoid of reality his whole life.

Exactly

Probably the easiest way to demonstrate the role of the arts is in "commercial art", advertising (in the Western, capitalist economies and accompanying taught culture). But there the artists have been bought to do evil. How memorable is that little rhyming couplet (doggerel really) "Plop, plop, fizz, fizz. Oh what a relief it is." The artists to undo that damage are not likely to be paid. Who will be their patron? If you need to start somewhere, though, consider Breanna Quinlan.

Good point, at 1:13:00 the guest does not consider the battery swapping technology being developed by Nio. Also Anglo American mining company is developing solar powered electrolyzers to provide hydrogen on site for hydrogen fuel cells on a big mining truck.

I disagree. The stuble suits him. Looks good.

He is handsome in all his manifestations.

Not clean-shaving saves resources.

@@nicholaswright9197 We all sound a little gay with our "man crush" on Dr Chris.

It is feasible. There are thousands of sites already identified by Satellite imagining. The issue is transmission lines, which in turn takes government eminent domain and financing.

There are places where it's feasible. There are many more places where it's not.

This. Links to learn more?

Not true. We have enough fossil fuels to last hundreds of years even at greater consumption rates. No need to force people to live like cavemen

I suspect the crusher would have to run 24/7. He mentioned the shovel has to run 24/7 (and even then takes 10 years to pay for itself). This would give X tonnes per hour. You'd match the number of trucks to move X tonnes per hour. You'd then match the crusher to crush X tonnes per hour and run the crusher 24/7. Now design a system where the crusher runs intermittently say 30% of the time. Problems include what do you do with the trucks arriving when the crusher is not operating. And you'd need a crusher with a capacity of 3X tonnes per hour in order to get 24X tonnes per day - a bigger, more expensive machine sitting idle 70% of the time. Fridges and freezers are a different type of process with two distinct phases. The compressor needs to be reasonably powerful to initially cool within a reasonable time. Once the fridge or freezer is cold the compressor is massively overated for just maintaining the cold and is suitable for intermittent electricity. Imagine scaling up Tesco freezers to a heavy industrial scale, huge freezers and lots of them. You might design a site with one really powerful compressor and initially cool the freezers one at a time. And then have a much smaller compressor attached to each freezer for maintaining the cool - running almost continuously. Obviously a fantasy thought experiment, but illustrates the type of thinking needed when equipment is very big and expensive.

@@davidbuderim2395 When i heard of Tesco's freezer example, it really did sound the absolute most obvious of applications... Tesco really does operate some the most industrial scale cold stores in the country... the distro centres are huuuuuuge... it's not just their fridges and freezers in the cold food isle where we grab our cheese and ice cream from. Being able to turn off the compressors for a bit will always be possible due to the thermal mass of the store... Perfect for helping out the grid for sudden peaks... I wonder how much refrigeration work can be diverted to off-peak times... pumping it down to a few degrees colder over night when the demand is lo and the leccy is cheap... The economics must be good for this... it's just how far it can be pushed... There are more than a couple of cold-stores and fridges around this planet... All they need is a smart link up to the grid managers and an override switch for backup... Rock crushing... This is my question... how are they being deployed... How are they being run... But i feel that they're not running 100% of the time... I have visited a few of Australia's mines and witness their mind-blowing scale... Deffo recommend to anyone! But my understanding is that there are always different phases a pit goes through, big one and sub one... the shovel isn't running truly 24/7/365, the haul trucks aren't an endless stream... When the charges are going off... when they're reconfiguring to dig different parts of it... etc. etc... i'd love to know how this works out... Obviously, you are correct that they would try to size the rock crushing capacity to the amount it's possible to feed with with 1 or 2 or more shovels working... But it's likely that they also have designed in extra capacity, as you simply don't want a bottleneck... And perhaps not all the different rock crushers are being used at the same time... When the see the top side of a pit, not all the plant is working... So... The question is, can some of it be operated in a more flexible way, such that it can be turned on more so during low demand times, and less so during high demand times... There's also water pumping... A feature of mines that's not talked about so much... i guess cos it's a bit sketchy what comes up the pipes lol... But, a huge % of the pit's leccy bill is just pumping water out of the bottom of their pit... especially if they are near a river... (my mate's pit where he works has this issue).. Again, water pumping is often not needed to be run continuously, so these can be switched on and off a reasonable amount... It'd be great if these were also controlled by the grid... Obviously, much of what i'm enquiring about applies to a mine site attached to a grid.... But i suppose a managed site probably has to do a lot of this managed deployment when running off it's gensets... The quest continues... What massive loads can be deployed more so when a grid's load is low... How much can we flatten the load curve such that almost everything is 'base load' lol.

Yes. The costs of 'fixing' it will only get more and more and more expensive, the longer we leave it... So it's going to be cheaper to commit soon, and fully. And to repeat the much used example, we just need to do a 'France'... 10-15 years and you've decarbonised all electricity grids, with all countries doing this concurrently... And everything speeding up as the industry and technology grows, develops... By the time we really do have functional SMRs, mass producable, then it's simply a case of setting up lots of factories around the world, pumping them out... in 5 years we might only see a few npps come online, but after that, it absolutely will be GWs, then10s of GWs and 100s of GWs... We just need to commit. Also... we will probably still see the old dogs refusing to learn new tricks... countries, oil & gas companies, etc, refusing, lobbying to keep the status quo... But you only need one country (china, india) to suddently start selling lots of reactors abroad, or a middle east oil company going all in on nuclear power synfuels, and you'll start to see a lot of piss and panic as everyone then rushes to catch up. The wonderful economics and practicalities of doing nuclear properly (smrs, fleets, chp, industrial) i forsee will just make them the bleeding obvious way and everyone will run with it, and everything will be better...

As someone who had to study geology and ecology as part of his studies (carthography) I can say that anyone with any knowledge of the topic already knew nuclear was the only solution - 15 years ago. Solar MIGHT eventually be an alternative after we greatly improve the efficiency (which is very slowly improving so in 30-40 years assuming no breakthroughs we'll get there) and create a working energy storage system (which is nowhere on the horizon).

@@HontounoShiramizu Indeed. Solar has a slight little problem though... The hard limits... Only 1kw of solar energy lands on a square meter of earth when the sun's directly above and the atmosphere is clear... There's no way to get more than this. Then there's the single layer limit of about 33%, and the multilayer limit of 66%, assuming infinitely thin, perfect layers, such that it can get all the wavelengths possible... All these theoretical limits are hard limits... nothing will ever exceed this, unless something really bad happens with our atmosphere!!! Many people think that most technologies, including wind and solar, are gonna also scale up like semiconductors have, following Moore's Law, doubling every 18 months... This simply will not happen... We're already in the 20s percent wise with solar panels... any future gains are gonna get smaller and smaller each time... Yeah, the cost and materials need might get really really low, but we'll still be left with the unavoidable need for a ginormous surface area needing covering... and that lots of people live fairly far north, so just don't get much sun, and don't get much at all when they actually need more leccy... I foresee solar remaining a very useful niche technology, but it'll disappear from grids... And rooftop solar will only really work out if it is the tiles, shingles themselves... but the cost and effort installing them might still just be huge compared to being plugged into a grid full of nukes... Deffo want it on my desert island tho!

Only one.....historically proven solar event that destroys satillites, power transformers/sub stations/emergency back-up generators...and all those non-functiong nuclear plant reactors will poison Earth forever...,,look at Fukashima for that type of outcome multiplied by a thousand.....got it now?

Besides....there is only at best a 20-30 year supply of uranium if everyone in the world went nuclear....back to the same old problem. So....how do you plan to dispose of all us useless eaters (old dogs?) and who will make those choices?...ultimately the elite will be forced into the Mad Max plan/solution. MY BEST ADVICE....dont have children/grandchildren unless you plan to die before witnessing them suffer horrendously....but remember...many still will.

This video link may help you understand a little bit more about how nuclear reactors operate. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbKRYJSIntOrYmQ.html I highly recommend the Illinois energy professor channel for some good information on atomic power nuclear reactors and other power systems

For various reasons they can’t go back into an active core. The second point is they don’t generate enough heat to run a power cycle so they sit a pool for while before transfer to air cooled casks

There are SMR designs that could use spent fuel bundles, but to my knowledge they have yet to be built.

There are a lot of lies in 'proven reserves' numbers due to companies and state governments needing to keep up appearances, but more importantly there is a rising EROEI on liquid fossil fuel extraction that is mostly hidden from the stats on reserves and projected production numbers. EROEI on liquid fossils is declining and will be at unsustainable levels far sooner than depletion of reserves, leading to collapses in the monetary system which will destroy energy demand if we haven't run out first, which leads to declining or perhaps zero investment in developing new fossil energy extraction. (The money-energy relationship is a separate topic but super simply: energy is the true universal currency of all life and all systems including societies, money is therefore a claim on the expenditure of energy and debt is a claim on future energy expenditures, governments can print all the money they want [by, of course, generating debt] but they can't print more energy so, eventually, as energy production becomes more expensive in EROEI terms and production of energy declines or at best only expands linearly the ballooning exponential increase in debt [exponential because debts need repayment in a percentage of principal] becomes unsustainable leading to a series of monetary collapses, crises and eventual decline of the economy). See the work of Arthur Berman for more info on fossil fuel depletion. Nate Hagens for the money-energy relationship.

​@kurtniznik8116 how convinced are you of the EROI numbers? It seems ver contentious issue. And some peer reviewed papers atm to aye that renewables have EROI numbers comparable to hydrocarbons. From a thermodynamic perspective it makes sense that more energy dense sources would be more efficient and more profitable. But maybe I'm just a pessimist.

@@kurtniznik8116 some would define money as now based on commodities .Those commodities that are required to get the Energy.

@@user-nx6ji9tk8i Those folks have it backwards. Energy is required to get the commodities, as with everything. Energy is the universal currency, this is a law of nature.

@@kurtniznik8116 ok. Agreed! I think I,d heard Simon Michaux coin the phrase. Or was Nate Hagen or any of those others. And above and beyond the mining issues here, Putin,s supposed PhD tells us it,s all about an energy grab.

Don't store the nuclear waste use it in molten salt reactors; it's valuable.

@@owenshaifer7031molten salt reactors are never going to be an actual _thing_ - grossly overengineered and overpriced way to solve a solved problem. Next up: triangle wheels and whatnot. We don't need fuel we have breeder reactors and reprocessing, we don't need molten salt because we have competent engineering.

Or finding a cathode without cobalt as another alternative, as long as the replacement is nearly as good but not as rare.

Musk is building rockets and talking about mining planets because he's a f---ing idiot.

like they ever want to hear anything...

Aluminum ore is too plentiful....the ore chases the cheapest energy source for refinement.

@@sonnyeastham Correct. Soon you'll see nuclear reactors and aluminium smelters living next to each other. It won't just be the hydro schemes, as has been mostly seen to date. Any country that wants to entertain any industry will being going nuclear in big ways in the next few years. Those going bigtime into renewables will likely lose all of their industry, especially heavy industry. Very especially if we put a price on carbon. Everyone's watching Germany of course. Sad to watch, as an engineer myself. The link between industry and nuclear is only going to get stronger and stronger and stronger... As the fact that a 1GWe (electricity) NPP actually produces 3GWt (thermal)... It produces 3x more heat for the electricity it generates... Meaning that if you just want the heat, you're in luck! Nuclear hasn't been harnessed much in the west for industrial heat... but that's going to change BIG time very soon. Nuclear thermal plants will be very common. And any 'normal' nuclear power station producing electricity today can also have all its 'waste' heat, that is just dumped into the atmosphere, or body of water next to it... Again, not done much in the west. Combined heat and power (CHP), cogeneration massively improves the efficiencies and the economies of any NPP. Once we start doing this more widespread, nuclear power gets cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and cheaper... And if you happen to have any large ore bodies in your country, why would you sell the ore to other countries??? Why not just stick a small or medium sized reactor near the ore bodies and directly produce the iron, aluminium, zinc, lead, tin, copper, nuclear fuel, etc, etc, etc, etc... Selling the final product is always much more profitable than just selling the raw materials!

Great idea! We could charge batteries and ship them across.

Been tried Failed

How many of these power stations have been built and are running?

The point is that nuclear power plants can link to the existing grid with very little extra wiring. Because wind and solar generators are distributed over vast areas, which are often remote from urban centres (e.g. in deserts, offshore), a great amount of extra wiring is needed to connect them to the grid.

Yes get rid if coal first