I don't see myself using many other combat styles for a while but that's because I like sticking to one style if I can anyway. What about you?

I NEVER bossed because I always felt that i wasn't good enough and the weapons and armor to do so were way too expensive. Because Necro is both accessible AND forces you to try various bosses to get the upgrades, it showed me that I am able to do bosses without having to invest 1b on a weapon.

I think the best part of necro was the upgrade path teaching you bossing and the low death cost. this is very helpful, im still a noob at bossing but this eased me right in and i got my first zuk cape. overall i think its been handled very well, other styles need to be brought in line with it though, especially if people are shelling out insane money compared to necro gear.

the way you dont splash but instead do less dmg with lower accuracy is one of the biggest things that made me fall in love with necromany, every other combat style just feels so much weaker now just because you dont see dmg on every hit if you fight against stronger oponents. i realy hope they bring that mechanic to the other combat skills as well

The best thing about necro gear at T90 is that when you die the death costs is cheap so you don't have to worry about spending a fortune learning a boss

you're right about non pvm players who are now trying bosses they've never tried because of necromancy (and part of that is the gear upgrade reqs) as i am one of those players

I just love necromancy enabling me to even grind out high level bosses and farm top tier stuff myself, which is so much more fulfilling than buying.

I never did Telos but I did it for the T90 Quest. I got to the last phase so easy without watching a guide and messing up a lot and died not knowing what is going on the last phase Took a quick look at the last phase and killed him my 2nd try with a full T80 Set. Necro has made me more confident in doing the high end bosses. I'm not that great at RS cause I died a lot even having FSOA and those other end game expensive gear. So Necro actually got me more engaged in RS and the only skill other than Slayer I'm pushing for a 120. I'm currently 116 at Necro.

From a business standpoint Necromancy is amazing: Many players (including myself) are doing old content (bosses/slayer) that they would never have tried with the old styles for lack of funds for BIS gear/abilities. Necromancy drives people to old content, which means previous investments in those pieces of bossing content are being paid out now, with the release of Necromancy.

As you said, it's the lower skill floor that makes me want to pvm with necromancy. If you take any other combat style you will need to switch so much to counter everything or to 'perfect' your kill. I'm thankful for necromancy to introduce me to pvm'ing and wanting to learn the mechanics.

I have a on/ff account for the last 10 years, usually play for a month every year, Necromancy get me into bossing for the first time despite having 85-90s in my other combat stats

Basic tasks are what real RS players want. Jagex lost half of their users because they made RS3. Beyond that, users of RS2 who swapped are not happy about RS3 combat as it requires knowledge of everything to do basic bossing. For me, it is stupid, that I need to use all abilities (and know them), just to do bossing. Jagex cared about the highend players (who also streamed/made videos). I hate how much the game has changed for the worse because of the influencers, necromancy is the first time they fixed it.

I will be honest and say that Necromany made me enjoy taking on more difficult bosses now due to how easy it is to set up. Necromancy doesn't have too many overwleming abilities to link togethor and learn which is why i love it. The drawback with necromany is I am rusty as hell with other combat styles now when it comes to bosses.

A lot of people complaining about their bank wealth lol. Jagex doesn't have to bend the entire game around keeping your items expensive.

Im a maxed player, several 120 skills. Before necromancy I’ve only ever done GWD 1 and 2, Jad once, and Kiln once. I know a lot of high end players just assume every end game player bosses, but that’s entirely untrue. I have a full life outside of RS lol I can only casually play/afk an hour or 2 per day. What I love about necromancy is the upgrade path FORCED me into content i wasn’t comfortable with but fully capable of doing. I’ve learned how incredibly easy the fight cave/kiln is, and it’s giving the me confidence to finally attempt Zuk. It’s getting people into content that they would’ve never done and I think that alone makes it a great release.

The obvious thing to do it to bring the other three styles up to par by raising to 120. Make 120 the same power level as necro 120, but keep up weaknesses: if something is weak to magic, don’t let necro be the best. Make necro the second best for every fight.

Yessssss let everything crash to oblivion so i can finally own the cool gear for when they inevitably rebalance

I'll never understand why a new combat style is p2p only. I don't see many f2p working on or getting this up in the future.

I hate how it crashed prices of everything in the game. Pvm isn't ruined, but I don't feel the same hype and motivation to play a lot of the content. It feels like Destiny 2 when half the game was removed, like the game has gotten smaller. Overall I feel more meh about the game, at least pvm, since necro came out. I'm kind of a noob at rs3 still, so necro would seem to be geared toward me, but I just want to melee and mage and I don't tend to go for the obvious easy/overpowered/meta thing in whatever game i'm playing. I give necromancy update 3 out of 10 mildly depressed pepes so far. It's made my experience as a non-necromancer noticeably more meh.

Switching has always been the worse combat style in these types of games. Not sure why they went with that style in the first place. Thankfully, it seems like they noticed and made Nerco not suffer from that design.

I mean, when you start absolutely blasting Rasial that is a nice feeling. They need to fix flasks and binding contracts though.

Necromancy is such a good combat skills for us Ironman players

This isn't a sign of necro being too good, it's a sign of the other styles being too gimped by their bullshit difficulty in use. Necro was actively designed, they were slapped together to chase WoW. The difference is self evident. Honestly, I can see Necro getting more variety added to it, though admittedly it's plenty powerful as it is. What we need is for the other styles to be brought up to scratch, and possibly more bosses getting enrage mechanics so we have things we can actually try at.

"Be sure to enjoy it for what it is because that's what games are for" I feel like 90% of players forget this and need to keep it in mind 😅

Jagex is struggling to maintain players because they only make content for the hardcore players and people who kill bosses all day while they don't do anything for the middle class of players which are like 90% of the players in the game. Jagex is forgetting about the average middle class players and new players just like how Blizzard did with WoW in the past and that's why WoW died.

I think it's very poorly balanced and that other combat styles are kinda buried right now. I get wanting it to be strong to bring people in but they went overboard with it imo.

Good counterpoint to the "hurr durr Necro must be nerfed" argument.

This didn't shaked the META, it made its own and kicked the older one outta window! That's what i think :p

It's the fact that pvm is affordable to BEGIN, that now some of us can finally fight bosses and run dungeons

Necro is fine however i do believe other combat skills should have a higher skill cieling and potential output. Most mmo's i play have on class that allows you to play easily compared to the others but also stay compeditive Samurai in ffxiv , Demon hunter in WoW as two examples so having easier kits that can still be compeditive isn't a bad thing it's how you deal with the numbers in the higher end.

i don't pvm, so being able to just use 1 style for everything and focus on mechanics is nice. having to balance 3 switches and all that sweaty shenanigan's I lose interest instantly.

For the first time ever not only do I understand how to build a good combat bar but I've also started learning full manual because of how easy to learn and play Necromancy is. All the combat skills should be as easy as Necromancy. When I returned to rs3 4 years ago (I played in the 00s when I was like 10) I hated the new combat system and have never got along with it because its just too complicated and overwhelming so I tend to not do combat or I just use full revolution having no clue what is happening on screen just watching my health and when to activate freedom/anticipation. This was a very much needed combat update and I really hope jagex update and improve the other combat styles and make them simpler to understand like Necromancy

I love necromancy, I've almost exclusively been using magic for a couple of years especially after investing in magma tempest (900m) at time of purchase and as someone who would always use combat through slayer to make money it was getting a little boring. Now with necromancy I've been able to solo nex, take on hard mode arch glacor, confidently kill gwd2 bosses, attempt Zuk and basically unlocked huge amount of content which I never felt confident doing historically. All this will almost exclusively playing on mobile. It's encouraged me to step away from full revo++ gameplay to using a semi revo with manual input play style. All in all probably one of the most successful new skill launches. Now at 102 necromancy I feel this is a combat style I will take all the way to 120. As for the effects on the economy I personally am happy with it, reducing the elitism from pvm has been something needed for a long time as I'd say I as an average player and a below average PvMer now have more options to further wealth gain.

It's hard still for new players with all the gate-keeping. People are not happy about newer players or players who couldn't boss the traditional way now getting a chance to enter their arena and saturate the boss killing market. This puts people off. I got my first zuk cape with Necro and my entire clan were like "lul..." and it comes off as extremely patronizing and off putting. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels like I'm not really achieving anything.

switched to osrs after necro release lol. cool that the game has a new skill and all but it being so much stronger than other styles while being way cheaper just destroyed any balance of the game

I feel changing the other combat styles, especially the talents for other combat styles and new boss/monster content that can balance this possibly by requiring other combat methods like dag kings and rex matri

I'm definitely doing Necro for PvM stuff almost exclusively these days. But that's partly due to me trying to train the skill (I'm only at lvl 83 currently), rather than because I'm trying to min/max. That being said, I'm liking how much faster some of my boss kill times have been; I've shattered some of my old records and that's with only the T70 DPS armor set (haven't got my T80 armor yet, just the weapons; I blame Hermod for not dropping more plates). Overall it's been a solid content update for me, especially with the tweaks, and I look forward to more content to come.

You hit the nail on the head when talking about necro giving access to content I wouldn't have tried previously. I didn't have interest in high level bossing - or even doing Nex or QBD - until they became a requirement for Necro-gear, and found that learning and doing those bosses were more fun and interesting than I thought before. I personally love the skill and how it was introduced, and hope it becomes a staple template for further skill releases

I prefer this combat style as there's less button bloat compared to the other classes and I actually enjoy bossing a lot more with it to the point where I'm considering bosses outside of Story-mode for once, the rotation and spell priority is smaller which is what makes the leap to harder content that much easier. Sometimes RS3 suffers from too much information at once and with Necro I didn't really feel overwhelmed.

I have a midlevel account, combats around lvl90 with budget gear, high lvl slayer and overloads/curse but no skill scroll(because the investment for invention, arch and skilling gear is huge af). Necromancy started behaving close to my range spec with perked blowpipe and T70 armor and magic gear with cywir + boots/gloves/amulet + subjugation but at around lvl65. Maintenance cost is minimal, you need only 30M roughly to get to lvl70 an get tank augmented gear(cheaper than dps) then it becomes better than any other combat style without serious investment on skill scrolls. It's that strong. Was able to grind confortably abyssal demons without splashing with lvl64 and a demontooth neckace for the perma prayer points + the basic gear. The other styles are imho now niche because necromancy does everything and overall better without any of the expensive things(no skill drops, no EoF, no nothing rly, even just the self crafted gear is enough)

With necro I've been able to vastly improve my pvm skills. I got all 4 Zuk capes, started pushing Arch-Glacor enrage past 500% and even managed to solo ED3 (before necro I never even completed it in a group). Low death costs also encouraged me to keep trying those bosses until I got more comfortable with them. There are only a few instances where I prefer using other styles so I've been using it a ton, at this rate Necro will become my first ever 200m skill

I feel largely what we are seeing is the healing of a massively unhealthy disparity. Simply put the old combat is so clunky and difficult it was hard for people to get into combat and affect supply except for those at a top end. This creates an economy where a relatively small handful set the price, they accumulate more wealth, so they set prices higher, and it creates a very wicked rich get richer and steadily pull the ladder up behind them. But necromancy closes that gap, it gives the average person a chance to engage and affect the supply which in turn affects the economy. The power is taken from the few and given to the many and the prices are forced to rather rapidly yield to the new market. Which is to say as you said, bad for those people who want to produce bills and good for everyone else. However over time it will lead to an adjustment in the supply and demand prices of everything else to as the economy as a whole rebalances.

I do not understand how people hate game breaking things love this…

Honestly they should add tier 99 items and gear for level 105, 110, 115,120 for each combat style with harder mode for each bosses and higher drops rate for lower than 90 gear and open a new place for hight level content needing huge skill cap and crazy high gear where 99 gear is just the start

I just wish necro didn't make other combat styles obsolete..... to get good at other styles you need rlly good skills or a lot of cash to invest.... necromancy is just way cheaper and stronger than the other ones. Made all my progress with ranged feel useless now

I just think melee, ranged and magic, and even summoning, are just so outdated in too many ways. I also feel like I spend all my time trying to optimize my ability bars instead of playing the game, and feel like I'm always doing it wrong.

I feel like necro is really teaching people how to do combat. Yeah, it carries itself on its own a bit, but learning things like opportune times to use abilities/spells/specials is such a gamer changer for the other styles as well. I'm sure there are a lot of people who have been able to do content they otherwise couldnt with necro that could now do it with the older styles. It would be interesting to see some kind of testing to this.

Ive already done more bossing with necro than i ever tried before. The gear is so much more accessible.

I think Necro should level to 99 on f2p with gear progression to tier 50, like every other style.

Hey Mr. Protoxx! *CONGRATS* on 120 Necromancy!! 🎉🎉 Significantly faster than I predicted! This calls for one thing... 😏 *"It appears you have exceeded my expectations."* - TzKal-Zuk, 2021

All signs point towards a combat overhaul and a 120 combat stat boost and weird in a weird awkward test phase but im getting a little nervous about when or if its going to happen after the major backlash/player exodus that came from the hero pass release. If we start seeing necro nerfs outside of an ability not working as intended like with death skulls then it might cause for concern

I think I'm just bummed that getting 120 in any combat is gonna be a drag. I LOVE Necromancy though. It's the most fun skill since probably most likely construction. Being able to host house parties in 2005-2006 while training the skill was a fun concept. This of course, is just my opinion.

I just want to replay While Guthix Sleeps. I would pay for membership just to play it again. Really good quest.

Necromancy removed the necessity of soul split with that ghost sustain therefore making pvm way more accessible. Curses take way too long to obtain and are requirement of pretty much every boss, if you want to farm / afk / solo ed.

I think this is good. Essentially Jagex hit the reset button. Now that the best combat style is acceptable to everyone for cheap everyone’s on the same level. So now they can release harder content to test people. It’s essentially EoC all over again. Which is good

Couldn't agree more, honestly. I've swapped off of Necromancy exactly twice since it launched, and both times I only swapped for a Rex Matriarch reaper task because as far as I know they're annoyingly immune to Necromancy damage. But aside from that its just like you said, Necromancy has all the best bits of other skills, on top of being more fun to use thanks to a higher damage cap that you hit constantly, and being cheaper maintain thanks to ectoplasm being the only real consumable you need. Considering the beta you mentioned for the other combat styles is a thing that's happening, I'm really hoping that means Jagex realizes that the way to move forward from here is to change the other combat styles to eventually be more in line with Necro rather than nerfing Necro so that it falls more in line with the others.

i feel like this skill should have been a combo skill. Maybe combining magic with rune crafting or magic with summoning. Idk the combat triangle is not no existent IMO

Necro is definitely a better system than magic or ranged. Magic by microtransactions is something that should have been fixed long ago. I even like the microquests you have to go through to upgrade your armor and weaponry. Just needs more choices in necromantic armors.

No way would I of been able to do AOD, ROTS, Rago, Raksha without necro. Been playing 20 years and I just hadn o interest in learning the switches and all the bs required to really maximize your dps output. Very pleased with what they did, and it's the ultimate Jagex move to fuck it all up with hp right after lol.

I love farming slayer assignments with the canon, steel titan and necromancy.

I've thought, within a week of Necromancy's introduction, that other styles were basically irrelevant now outside say a Smokescreen or other advanced techniques only 1% of the players use. It's destroying the game's economy (the combat aspect of it anyway), and Hero Pass destroyed a lot of motivation for players to play (still, to this day).

Necro highkey killed so much of the game

Waswere made a video of there possibly being a beta for the other combat styles. Raised hitcap to 30k and something with crits. Can't just simply buff the other styles in a short period of time without some ideas and keeping them different from each other. I use Magic along with Necromancy. The Staff is my bread and butter.

what scares away most new players is rs3 UI, which frankly is an absolute mess. if a player needs a guide to set up an UI that's a bad UI. And that's coming from someone who has played rs3 on and of since it was called runescape. well that aside Necromancy is legit more fun than any other style, and while it cant keep up with absolutely maxed out magic gear while using full t95 gear the magic gear to pull ahead would still requires much more skill and switching to pull off

The thing is the skill starts in the place were you die, so it triggers and you get this whole line if you learn how to fight and fail and need something easier.

this has to be one of the biggest power creep of all time, it literally makes every other style useless at all levels. I AOD with 6 necros and gotten a 1:43 sec kill which i find very very dumb, epically seeing how they nerf FSOA cause it does too much damage but even with 7 man FSOA you could get sub 2. just weird no one is talking about how much and big of a power creep necro really is and turned me off from actually pvm.

F2P shouldn't worry about or train necromancy unfortunately. Despite it being a new combat system that runescape has, f2p only have access for it up until level 20, which doesn't make sense if its a new combat system that's fundamentally changed Rs unlike summoning.

Honestly, I love necromancy and I rediscovered my love for RS3 because of it. I stepped away to osrs for a while and came back on necromancy’s release. I love pairing it with summoning too. More minions = fun.

Just from a math standpoint alone necro is going to be objectively best for a long time. At the bare minimum they need to open up orher combat skills to 120 and add the crit level ups post 99. But really they need to make each other combat style really really good at something. And necro just good at all things.

All i've ever really used was melee. But now I'm able to try a more fun style and doing way more damage and i was able to do Zuk without dying for the first time after 4 tries. I couldn't have done that with melee at my skill level, zerk debuff is hard to deal and some bosses in the game, just straight up aren't possible with Melee. I couldn't care less about top 1% people complaining, this is the best update they could have done for the game

Don't worry, they will nerf the crap out of it soon. Due to content creators hyping it up so far -they won't adjust anything for the other styles because it is too much actual work for Jagex -other than nerfing the crap out of it. So drink your cup of tea and hush

i loving necromancy and it helped turned my skilling friend who at most mainly touch gwd1 bosses or just did a little slayer in to being confrontable doing araxxor and even doing ed3 with me =). this is really the best way to introduce new people in to bossing. Plus im hoping that jagex will rework the other combat styles to mimic necro and really give them their own flare that makes them really fun to play.

im stuck in OSRS so i wont try it but i heard so much good stuff about this skill, also from player who disliked arch

After they fixed the bonuses and stuff on magic and ranged I’ve been using them more. They’re more consistent in dps and I like magic so much more in its little complexities.

I really enjoy magic in general, i can almost afford a fsoa now. This update has been amazing lol.

While watching this video I got the necromancy pet drop at 2.5 mill exp. Thank you for the good luck protoxx xD

it feels very weird doing other styles. it's very bad for economy for sure, i hope jagex will buff other combat styles soon... winter 2017?

They should never have gone back to XP for HP system, its way slower now and new players will just quit

for one i think they need to make melee into one skill, not two. Attack and strength is odd when compared to magic, range, and necro. Seemed more normal back in the days before necro, but if theyre going to change it to a hit chance only, which i think is a great idea to modernize this game, then it should just be melee, range, mage, necro not attack, strength, range, mage, necro. Changing it to one skill that operates off hit chance essentially makes attack obsolete

necromancy has quest requirements that are not exact short beginner quests to level your gear at 30 or 40, not exactly beginner friendly

I'm trash at PvM even with Necromancy. So... I think I'll just stick to providing materials to the community through skilling because Combat for me (unless AFK farming) isn't fun, and instead makes me want to Alt+F4, rip my hair out, and uninstall the game... I hate the tick system.

I really like the necromancy so far. Though i do have one problem with it, as few skills are locked behind quest that needs 86 level archaeology which i never liked... Leveling that so far has been completely annoying... But man, if i gotta do that for necromancy i guess i just gotta lose my mind for it lol.

havent played RS in 2 years but seems it is too OP. More complex styles deserve better dps.

Great summary, Protoxx. For me as a long-time player (all 120's) with woeful high level boss abilities Necro has been fantastic. I've done 5 new bosses already. The skill is more compact and self-contained. There are still issues with adrenaline and the conjured sidekicks, but hopefully they'll sort that out.

All of the 'Sky is falling" attitude had by higher end players is crazy. They're forgetting that there will be a 120 rework for other styles in the future and thats a large part of what is making Necromancy so strong, it is designed to not be switchscape and currently has no 'buyable' ability upgrades that turn your abilities from meh to amazing. In the future when the original triangle gets its rework I'd love to see videos like this revisted

It seems like a good update for the game from a macro outlook. Long term, cost to get top gear drops because more players can boss cheaply and now wealth is split between another combat style. Jagex also massively extends the content runway for a bunch of players. Particularly also mobile players… We’ll see what happens later but this might be the end of the serious combat arc they’ve been on since EOC. It might also be a sign of a pivot towards mobile considerate development.

There's no point in training strength or attack. I tried slaying with melee but kept having my DPS nerfed by the damage cap which doesn't even exist with Necro. Melee also sucks because if the monster takes a few steps at the right time, you just follow it and your skills get messed up.

I'm happy with what's it's done to the economy imo. I was able to buy my bolg and now I can grind kera for the fsoa. Later I'll lvl up necro to 99 but I'm sticking to my ranged gear for now

I dont play RS3 but i find this interesting. Great vid!

I got 120 magic and str before necro released because I fully anticipated not wanting to go back 😅

@Protoxx Just so you know, you can use the purple gaze aura with that hood in your intro. Adds a whole new dimension to it. You're welcome :P

13s kill times at gwd2. 3minute hardmode kerapac kill. Feels like major power creep to the other three combat styles

Re-subbed to try out Necro, sticking around as really enjoy it more than anything in RS in years. A game that gates competitiveness behind thousands of hours of gear grinding is a dying game, Necro is fantastic for the long term health of the game imo, not just enticing new & returning players, but having them stick around too. The 0.1% will cry their billions are worth slightly fewer billions though I imagine.

I don't care much for necromancy, got the 99 I needed and just sold my t70 stuff. Magic 4 life

15 years playing this game and I've never been able to solo Nex till necromancy. Finally!

i've thought necro was OP from day 1 and thought it was too easy to kill monsters however what did confuse me was when it was released jagex said necro was a combat skill and a skillers skill but if you ask me it truly isn't because yes i understand you don't have to do combat to gain necro xp you can just do things like rituals but what stops it becoming a skillers skill is the combat leveling because if your going to be a skiller pure you can not whats so ever increase your combat level and thats what necro does you can now increase your combat level to a maximum 152

Necromancy is very pog and very approachable for players normally bad at pvm like myself. The tank gear is a godsend. I was able to get a flawless hard mode zuk kill for the first time ever because of it and couldn't be happier. 10/10 skill release

If necro is giving peeps more confidence to try higher tier bosses… doesn’t that kind of speak volumes about the other combat styles? Like maybe some of them do need a serious rework and adjustment.

I like that necromancy gives newer/lower levelled/lower skilled players opportunity to try out harder bosses and make t90 accessible. I don't like that prices for other 3 style have crashed and me not being able to earn as much from pvm drops these days except for maybe praesul codex from AOD. Why grind for t70-t90 for the other 3 styles when u can just skip those, get t90 necro and farm for t90+ other style right? Unless they plan to up the game to 120s combat universally or bring about new aspects of combat to the other 3 styles (such as new passive/gears/set effects, the crit system rework etc.), I honestly cant see gear value for the other 3 styles increasing if Necro just foreshadows them. After all, why spend 6b- 15b for best in slot other style when u can spend 2b (or 3b with praesul codex) for an on par/even better outcome, right? They need to find a balance for the other 3 style to be equally demanding as necro

It's the best money maker too