Christian Miranda haha. you're right.

Exactly! 🥴 I guess they need to cut costs because it’s handmade England.

Man up

You never held a Marshall I guess

@@ozmobozo Marshall 412 1960A 80lbs - Orange PPC412 102lbs

Same here. Question: Did you ever open it? I tried but couldn't because the back seems to be kind of sealed to the cab...??

@@Hardchoere Its not its just really really tight for a reason. Take all the screws out then remove the jack plate and once youve taken out the jack plate let it hang off to the side and reach in with a few fingers and pull outward. That should do the trick. Its tight cause if it wasnt it wouldnt control air and would essentially be a half ass open back cabinet.

For the price I expect good sound and orange is not that :D .. Orange sound like granpda rig. And it is ugly as fk. Come on. Look at it.. Its fucking hideous.

90% of their products are made in PRC, They sold out long ago... I build professional cabs as well. Could bust off about 3-4 slants in an 8 hour day, and that's complete. They are super simple, especially with all the right parts, machines and proper tools. I use a table saw, Brad nailer and a router, by hand. The hardest part is cutting the seems on the Tolex/Rexine so they perfectly match up. After 2 or 3, you get it right. This is basic high school shop stuff. They don't even finger joint them. That, out of any step, is the most time consuming part! Slapping the wood on a CNC table for 1-2 mins for all your cuts is chump work at minimum wage. Then it goes together is like Lego, all your grooves are there. Glue, line up, nail done! Orange is now a Corporation out for your cash! These are $1799 +tax here in Canada, wood is Chinese, wiring is Chinese, Rexine is made in china, along with all the input jacks, down to the Celestion Vintage 30's, all made in China. People will always bitch yes, but the price is R*A*P*E man! UK labor is not the highest quality either, I have watched Top Gear since the 80's, they talk about it all the time! We have an amp company called Traynor up here, they make the exact same cab, it is heavier though by about 10-12 lbs. Still uses Chinese V30's, but its $800 +tax so, $840 all in. The difference in tone can be dialed with a EQ, unless you like being taken a fool by the company you support, then by all means... Whack away Jim, whack away! Building one with little knowledge and cheap hands tools makes for a buttload of work yes. But you are saving like $1200 bucks dude! I agree with Jack Fisher here, they are ugly, well the grill mesh is, and they sound like every other V30 cab. I sold my Rockerverb for a Revv Genorator, never looking back again! TheRevv is 10 times the amp. V30's are actually crap speakers for anything but metal anyways... Just to be clear people, Google does not have ears, you do, use them and try other speakers! There are leaders in this world and followers, which one are you?

@@colemcdaniel5468 I agree with you, however V30s on that video are "Made in England". Check out at 2:46.

@@panchowterenie Nope, it has "50" where the "Ipswich England" should be. It's a made in China speaker! Not English. I sell them, you can clearly see by the Gold and black magnet sticker that it's made in China as well. 2:45, says made in China...

@@colemcdaniel5468 I kept thinking one thing since I'm planning (or should I say "was planning"?) to buy a PPC212. I checked the Celestion website and the picture they have there for the V30 is exactly like the one shown in this video which begs the question: Could it be that all V30s now are made in China and Orange is only using what's available or can you still buy V30s made in England? It's been 2 or more days that I'm poundering between buying that cab because I want the UK version of V30 or I don't want it at all.

You deserve to be on someone's marketing team...

Dude, your ideas are pretty damn WACK! Please, no more suggestions.... Ever

Can I have a discount code for at least 15% so I can buy the big cabinets and the head I get paid mid month next month please get back to me and let me know big fan I bought most of your pedals now I'm going for amp bass and one big set up for guitar

After seeing how they are manufactured, do you still believe that it is of quality? They use modern carpentry assemblies and second quality materials, I would say that they are cheap cabinets at the price of good cabinets.

some of us actually build cabinets ;-)

Normally it's made in the UK ! The open back 212 is made in China though! Never heard of a made in USA Orange cab ! Are they doing like Trace Elliot ? It was made in UK before being sold to Peavey.

Nope, I'm betting it's cheaper than opening them all up for customs inspection risking damage. Might as well make them in the US. The pic on Sweetwater of the back shows it plainly.

I which I join this company cause I know how to build too

One metal guide is going to last a hell of a lot longer

You mean to say that Chinese companies use lesser quality materials? I would have never guessed!

​@@JM-ym8mmOrange factory in China

@@Blinducho Think that was my point, Bubba. 😘

Probably stapled in place.

felipe rodriguez Because they're Orange.. They're also heavy as sin so shipping costs a lot.

felipe rodriguez My thought exactly! I would rather buy from a different manufacturer or better yet work with a cabinet maker or woodworker to create my own cabinet with speakers of my choice. Way overpriced for the workmanship.

T Scott Sweetwater prices: 1960A $949 Orange ppc412-c $1099 The Orange is quite a bit heavier and more expensive to ship. It looks a lot nicer toi, despite it's drawbacks. Tone is subjective. I have both. I mainly use the Orange. I did put two of the Marshall's speakers in it in an X pattern though. I kind of want a Mesa, ENGL Pro (perfect sound in the room for me) and Laboga 2x12 next..

Thomas Jefferson: These cabinets are made for ‘Tards like you! And furthermore, you do not deserve Marshall!

Tonewood? for Amps? Lets ask Rob Chapman or Scott Grove go into more detail on this...

Where?

.... and that's just poplar with a birch veneer. baltic birch plywood is $100/sheet!

My local home depot didn't stock birch plywood, so lucky you. I went to a woodworking supply store and got true birch plywood for about $40 for a half sheet. I only used about 10% so far and could easily make a 1x12 out of the rest. Not to mention I got some beautiful flame in the birch so it'll be stained and not covered in tolex

Funny i was going to mention something about the butt joints too haha.. not even beveled edges.. whats stopping everyone from making thier own cabinets in this exact manner? Easiest construction method out there.

@@YeeThirty "whats stopping everyone from making thier own cabinets in this exact manner ?" Surely the faith that it is such a difficult task while it is not. I'll never understand people thinking they can play guitar but don't know how to use their hands to build a box. There may be an other reason though : not giving a shit about doing things by themselves and buying stuffs because that's the way consumerism works.

@@Bloodysugar you will feel way better by building it your self. It will give you a sense of pride knowing that you made something sick.

@@YeeThirty Or just a lot of pleasure doing it, and a strong bond afterward. I'm starting with the guitar actually, then cab and pedals ;)

Dovetail joints are only suitable for use on solid wood. Finger joints are the best choice for plywood cabinetry. The best choice for MDF/particle board cabinetry is to throw it on a bonfire.

Its a water based pva.

What an absolute fuc-king clown comment. Cost of 4 Vintage 30 speakers. Cost of 18mm marine birch ply. Cost of tolex. Cost of handles. Cost of wiring. Cost of corners. Cost of backplate and jacks. Cost of piping. Cost of basket weave. Cost of high quality screws. Then the cost of making them. I would say they are pretty cheap considering all the parts and labour that goes into them. You would struggle to build one as good and keep the cost as low.

nice pfp