How Profiling Affects Performance

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In this video we take a look at profiling your skates and how it can effect your performance on the ice. When you buy a new pair of skates they come with a factory grind on the steel. It is recommended that you get them profiled before skating in them. The most common profiles are 7 foot 9 foot 11 foot and 13 foot. Most players go with a 9 foot radius.
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@petergeyer7584 5 жыл бұрын

Been playing hockey in Germany for 5 years, where even asking for a specific hollow is unusual. Came back to the States to buy skates, and the shop asked about both desired hollow and profile before the first sharpening. I almost cried.

@travyswright 7 жыл бұрын

Man I wish I had this guy at my local shop!

@metalheadbisp 6 жыл бұрын

i was thinking the same thing

@vermin1970 5 жыл бұрын

I hear ya, Only one guy here that ever got my profile right, that was the best two years I ever skated. Had to replace the skates recently and the local shop not only can't get my profile right anymore, but they left a corner on them, I had to get a regrind. They ground one with a different angle than the other, another regrind, then they got one crooked, regrind number 3. Since then, I can now skate without taking myself out, but I'm just not comfortable on them, I try to tell them I want to lean forward more, they look at me like I'm from outer space. I have had it with my local shop, ready to airmail my skates to someone that knows what they are doing.

@MrAsmontero 5 жыл бұрын

Wish there was a local shop

@koolcat6893 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I had enough money to buy gear and start playing.........

@user-zj2mb3sp3x 3 жыл бұрын

@@koolcat6893 learn some skills, get a job!

@hellslayer9638 7 жыл бұрын

thats the reason why i love americans and canadian ... when u ask a person in north america with fairly long expirence . they are so passionate that they know every tiny detail about them even the smallest which other people can't see or even thought about that

@dynamite6507 2 жыл бұрын

I love when people take their job serious and love their work. I would be asking all these same questions and I'm sure this guy would do this all over again. He is sharing the craft. My man hanz at the shop got me standing right on the ice.....

@Sincopare 6 жыл бұрын

Glen Sharpley was a Minnesota North Stars first round pick in 1976 and played for the green and gold in the late 70s to early 80s. He played center and was on the team which lost in the 1980 Stanley Cup finals to the New York Islanders. Love ya, Glen - from an old fan!

@markel4745 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao it’s funny you say he lost to the islanders, I work for them and am trying to learn more on the skates

@Sincopare 2 жыл бұрын

@@markel4745 I was a young teen and a big fan of the North Stars. After they lost to the Isles, I became a passive fan and still follow them. Proud of my fellow Minnesotans on the team these days!

@vgullotta 7 жыл бұрын

Man, I wish the guys that sharpened my skates were that knowledgeable lol

@DennisonsThe 7 жыл бұрын

Jeremy, we love your videos! My son started playing hockey this year in Rapid City, SD. He loves the sport, and has utilized your videos to help him progress in the sport. I have used them to educate myself on the details of the sport like this video! THANKS!! Keep up the great WORK!!

@WmLatin 7 жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to your side-by-side PROFILE COMPARISON ! I have not seen any of the 'hockey' channels explain this important performance factor like you are doing. Bravo!

@Maratuch 7 жыл бұрын

I was in vapors for a long time which come factory stamped to a 9 foot. When I switched to supremes they were not the same and I thought I was crazy. Had them done to a 9 foot and haven't had any issues since. Great video! Wish I could use that pro shop seems really thorough.

@Rightn2Parabola 7 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see the next vid. I've ALWAYS been curious about profiling, but have never had the balls to do it, cause I don't want to mess up my stride, or turn, etc. Anyways, still stoked to see what you think with the 4 different profiles.

@juliuspusa773 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting these kind of videos. its really fun to watch these and learn new tips and tricks everyday. before this video i did not even know about heat molding or profiling. Ive always just picked the cheap ones that feels good on the leg and get just regular sharpening on them. You deserve more followers for sure best hockey channel for sure. Love your Vids. keep them coming dude!

@zacklenci 7 жыл бұрын

I love your videos and they help me a lot. Just a few weeks ago I had old horrible skates. Now i got new skates and did everything you went over. I do better in my house league games now.

@jlo2o199 Жыл бұрын

This guy is so awesome. What a knowledgable and personable guy. What a master of his craft! Man I'd love to help me pick new skates and a rounder profiler on the far ends of my blades.

@candykanefpv98 4 жыл бұрын

He did an amazing job of explaining all of this.

@upthegut5332 2 жыл бұрын

This guy is amazing!! He is so thorough and explains all this info so well! Awesome video

@couchgamescouchness6066 7 жыл бұрын

Yo your vids are easily the best hockey vids ive ever seen they are great and they dont get boring keep it up 😀😀😀

@keithmesch3978 7 жыл бұрын

😀😀😀

@caribeach2641 7 жыл бұрын

now i wanna get my skates sharpened by this legend

@courtneyking6015 6 жыл бұрын

caribeach2641 Totally. I'm having skating sharpening envy.

@ToastAndJellyfish 6 жыл бұрын

I would make a special trip for it, seriously. Especially since I do have something "anatomically wrong" with me and damn, I bet he knows exactly how to compensate.

@smooothyyy 7 жыл бұрын

Amazing stuff! thanks for explaning the details

@adrianpennino8592 3 жыл бұрын

Played soccer my whole life, only experience playing hockey is some pond hockey growing up but this is absolutely amazing

@spelunkerd 3 жыл бұрын

Whenever I buy new skates they feel sooo long, like skis, hard to turn, but very fast and front back stability is great. Then I sharpen three or four times in the month and the rocker is back to my usual profile. Interesting to see how with cross cut profiling, the plane of the skate is at right angles compared to the plane of the grinder.

@nolanharrison798 4 жыл бұрын

Ah, some hockey ASMR! Love the skate sharpening sound!

@Cgny 4 жыл бұрын

I'm about to purchase new skates for the first time ever. Always had used gear as a youth and my first and only pair as an adult. Learning a lot from these vids

@thehawk05 5 жыл бұрын

When I first learned about profiling years ago my son (who wore Bauer Supremes at the time) always complained about his back hurting and when he would lose balance he’d often fall backwards. I’m lucky enough to have a guru shop like this nearby and went and discussed if there was anything they could do for him. The guy I dealt with was great. I don’t know if it still applies to Bauer’s current products but 5 years ago the skate guru told me they found Bauer to be the worst brand for blade consistency out of the box. He said they generally all had 9’ radius and they tended to be balanced towards the heel rather than neutral as they’re supposed to be out of the box and that’s what caused the back pain and balance issues my son was experiencing. Long story short they changed the radius to 10’, moved the balance point just past neutral to get him more on his toes. My son loved the change after his first skate, he skated noticeably better and he never had any issues ever again.

@gamingguy6169 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the helpful video, Jeremy

@TheDp1965 7 жыл бұрын

This is awesome info. Thanks for sharing. Cheers

@larrywatson499 4 жыл бұрын

I've learned a lot about skate sharpening over the years. It's really a science. My daughter knows right away if I don't go to her regular guy with her profile (and it's goalie skstes). Great video.

@treyb387 Жыл бұрын

Just ordered my DLC blades from Blade Tech Hockey, Quad 1 profile by Prosharp and 3/4 hollow. May go to a shallower hollow in the future. Thanks for all the great videos Jeremy, as it has helped me with my comeback to hockey for the first time in 18 years.

@Cleanasdirt2182 2 ай бұрын

I’m in the process of ordering a set of runners from Bladetech. I’m stuck on what profile I should go with. We’re you happy with your profile choice?What type of skater are you? Thanks in advance.

@1Three8Fiver 2 жыл бұрын

Love these types of conversations benefiting from wisdom from an older generation passing on knowledge/skills etc.

@johnprice5457 5 жыл бұрын

Love your channel man!!

@stevewright201 5 жыл бұрын

thanks for the great info ,its hard to find a good skate sharpener where I live. cheers got the radius so will make my own pattern and do them myself

@dharmaboy75 6 жыл бұрын

Never knew how this was done. What an excellent vid.

@mark100177 6 жыл бұрын

Have you posted a video for when you tested out different blades with different profiles? Thanks for your videos!

@TalkTime4 7 жыл бұрын

This is great, I've been using a dual lie profile 10/13 which makes a huge difference, only thing is now I need to drive the 5hours to get my skates sharpened by this legend :P good info bro

@tonyhawk6017 2 жыл бұрын

How do you fill this profile? Is it batter then single 10 or 9? Is it still manuvreable on the hills?

@gioa2334 7 жыл бұрын

This was great video. I think I will be doing this to my skates.

@martymelchior620 5 жыл бұрын

Glen Sharpley! Great player for the Minnesota North Stars. Had the best flow in 70s hockey.

@martinkirouac 5 жыл бұрын

You are lucky to have a shop like this. Most shops I go I am actually surprised the guy doesn’t hurt himself pressing the power button on the machine or doesn’t cut himself just handling the skates.

@nicklamia1456 6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jeremy! Played college and in the minors and never really understood any of this!

@LyricRichardson_JTLR 7 жыл бұрын

this was incredibly helpful.

@camvapes7349 6 жыл бұрын

I would be in this shop all the time lol

@GM-uc3os 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome video Jeremy!

@miguelh4750 5 жыл бұрын

Great video ! Can you post the link to the foolow-up where you test the blades ? Thanks

@mariojavier1623 4 жыл бұрын

Good video. Thanks for doing it.

@robertwilliamgrant 5 жыл бұрын

Maybe you have a more recent vid on profiling but if not, you should do one on combination profiling... quad or triple... those are really relevant to 2018 and are game changers.

@AlistairStClair 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Coach Jeremy, did you ever do the video where you tested these different profiles? I can't find it but would be interested to know what difference they made

@jeffreyjflim 5 жыл бұрын

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@hockeykid1712 5 жыл бұрын

I never had brand new skates I got new one yesterday love theses videos

@davidrobins4025 4 ай бұрын

Nice to have someone who knows how to properly profile and sharpen hockey skates.

@AmDsus2Fmaj7Am 5 жыл бұрын

That's really cool! You got a new subscriber.

@camz3713 6 жыл бұрын

Cool content for a series!

@elrud5964 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! Listen and learn

@gazzalanche 6 жыл бұрын

Anyone got a link to the next video? Can't find it myself... TIA

@mishaberger1718 6 жыл бұрын

Did the video with the side by side comparison on the ice ever get uploaded? Searched but couldn't find it. Thanks!

@jeffreyjflim 5 жыл бұрын

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@southernlife4me0181 7 жыл бұрын

we don't have anyone in Oklahoma to profile a skate. looks like I will have to take a trip up north. thanks for the videos

@waya1056 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the work you do... was wondering if a 10U player would benefit from profiling or do you think he would be too young to realize the difference. He does know when his skates needs sharpening and he feels the difference between 1/2" and 3/8" edge. He also chatters a little on some of his hockey stops. For now he is playing defense and was thinking of bringing him back to 1/2" from 3/8" to see if that helps him out. We have no idea what is profile is, but going to check on his next sharpening.

@levigranger5383 6 жыл бұрын

Never would’ve imagined a cross grind. Nice video.

@andersborum9267 2 жыл бұрын

Coming back to this video several years after checking it the first time; we could really use somebody like Glenn in a couple of shops here in Denmark.

@FGFsMo 7 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@jonathanmorciglio4944 6 жыл бұрын

Are you going to make a video that's shows which profile is meant for which type of player?

@timothyburrows9622 6 жыл бұрын

Those Cooper gloves on the wall (1:17) are glorious.

@bahr888 7 жыл бұрын

Have you posted any sessions on profiled blades and have you used quad radius blades ?

@NateNakao 7 жыл бұрын

I'd love to do some experimenting like that, but I wear Super Tacks with the Speedblade 4.0 holders, so it'd be a little more challenging than if I had Tuuk holders

@sebastiangalas8773 6 жыл бұрын

Jeremy wheres the video you said that you would post at the end of this video testing out the 4 radius's side by side?

@leighb.1773 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! I’d buy my skates and have them maintained by this guy if I lived in their neck of the woods.

@jordenhenry2362 4 жыл бұрын

Jeremy have you tried a Quad radius by Prosharp?

@007jimbo 5 жыл бұрын

This is cool ! did you ever make the video where you test the 4 different profiles on ice ?

@CoachJeremy 5 жыл бұрын

I just shot it, I'll be uploading it soon

@treyhinton2 7 жыл бұрын

This really explained what profiling is thanks

@jasons7347 4 жыл бұрын

I only learned this week that 5/8” is my most favorite sharpening ever. I used to always just throw my skates and say I need a sharpening please thank you. Lol now I gotta harass the poor guy about profiling.

@palacinkasmarmeladou 4 жыл бұрын

I like 5/8 too. It's slower start as it doesn't have as much bite, but it's easier to catch up as it gives you speed as you glide

@donmadlung3642 4 жыл бұрын

i've sharpened thousands of skates at a 'big box' store and we never did any profiling since we didn't have a jig for it. what we learned we learned at the store. I could do some really nice sharpens at whatever hollow depth you wanted.. but if you go in and ask the guy about profile and he doesn't answer as fast as Glenn here, go somewhere else for your profiling.

@gregst1549 7 жыл бұрын

Hey jermey keep up the great videos and at what age should u start profiling your skates

@CoachJeremy 7 жыл бұрын

You can start on the first pair of skates but it's not a necessity. For newer players a big radius like the 13 will keep more steel on the ice and help a little with balance.

@OptimizeYourHealthPhD 6 жыл бұрын

Did you ever do a follow up video with the different profiles?

@daveturnbull4433 6 жыл бұрын

Could you please do something like this on goal skates and equipment. Please.

@Jackofallmotards 6 жыл бұрын

You would you go about finding a better profile to hopefully improve comfort/ agility? On a low budget that is, i snap blades and bend them quite alot so i spend enough on blades already, is it something worth messing with if ive just been skating on whatever its like from factory, and the most recent bent blade hasnt really made that much difference, id be happy to have some advice. Thanks for the quality content

@willyboyw.5771 5 жыл бұрын

I remember Glenn and his Langes; had a pair of Lange Goalers myself and they were Tanks. Miss the N*Stars (@1:18) ...Dumbest name in the NHL is the "Wild"

@powderdescent 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video.

@ck936kd 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing!

@McQuokka 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. You owe Glenn a few beers. Although you probably send a few customers his way methinks! Shame his shop is up there in Huntsville, wish I had a shop like that in Mississauga.

@symo89 6 жыл бұрын

Love the vids, but wheres the blade comparison video

@johnkroll 6 жыл бұрын

i remember getting my skates profiled for a forward lean when i was younger and fell immediately over from the lean hahaha miss playing competitively

@hockeytipsforkids2566 7 жыл бұрын

Great video.

@boscocheung1782 7 жыл бұрын

please do a review of after market steel like step steel and others

@brandontalbort 4 жыл бұрын

this is an incredible vid

@ThomasScottOviedo 7 жыл бұрын

I can't find the next video where you try the different profiles. It it up yet? I have been reading about combo and quad profiling. I am trying an 8/13, medium forward pitch. Love the 8' and medium forward. The 13', not so much. Next up, 8/11. I also tried 100/50 FBV. Yuck! Back to the old standard, 1/2 ROH. I'm going to try the Sparx 1/2 Fire next. Do you have a video on the different kinds of sharpenings?

@andrewm4951 6 жыл бұрын

Thomas Scott i love the 100/75 fbv. It must suit my sharpen well. I guess its all preference. I also know they can be screwed up easy. My buddy does them for me, he did all the skates at the Vancouver winter olympics for the pros and does a great job with ours

@PutltOnWax 6 жыл бұрын

I can’t find the follow up video either

@mikeyseney6570 7 жыл бұрын

What would be the steps for goalie skates?

@evanxmc 6 жыл бұрын

Was there a follow up video that tested out the blades?

@AnnihilatorCZ 7 жыл бұрын

Great video Jeremy, as always. A question, if I may. How often should I sharpen my skates? It seems to me like they're completely dull after about 4 90 minute training sessions. I'm an amateur hockey player, btw, using the Vapor X50 skates.

@fantastopotomus 7 жыл бұрын

Renegade Cz As soon as you don't feel comfortabe on your edges, or start falling more than usual it's time for a sharpen!

@jlh530i1 6 жыл бұрын

Great video

@AV1461 4 жыл бұрын

So, the continuation of that scene never got published? I'd like to see the sharpening process too.

@socalhockey4 7 жыл бұрын

Hey what would u recommend for someone who grewup playing roller hockey and has played a little bit of ice? would u say a forward lean? or should I just go with whatever and adjust from there?

@robdelorne7157 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeremy, did you remove the 2nd video, about the foot beds?

@kalamarmatus 5 жыл бұрын

no, just link to it is worng, u can find it in video list ;)

@muhaiminazlan4355 7 жыл бұрын

Hey, i have been using a pair of ice blades on my inline skate for a couple of months now. And today i just tried my friend's bauer hockey skates and the blades feel really great. It was easy to turn, sprint, stop and so on. My question is would my inline skate ice blades feel just as good as my friend's hockey skates if i got them profiled? I actually like my inline skate boots better because of the super comfortable liner even though they are really on the heavier side.

@MrMitchywoo 6 жыл бұрын

LS4 Steel that comes with the 1S is stock 10’ radius but like the guy said in the video, they make these in factories and they have no consistency at all so that’s why you should always have them profiled. I have 1S though and Bauer’s Steel is horrible, I broke it in half within a month so I switched to Black Stepsteel and won’t look back. There’s a profile you can get using Prosharp called Quad Zero where basically they can cut 4 separate radius points on your blade. (Back to front 14-12-9-6) it’s hard to find anyone that knows this style though :/

@chevyfan34 5 жыл бұрын

Check out skate rescue/no icing sports. They have a bunch of options.

@McQuokka 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Jeremy, I had a question from a hockey parent and passed her this link concerning profiling, etc and in this video you say that Bauer sent you 4 sets of blades and you were going to test the different radius against each other and report back but I cannot seem to find the follow up video? Did u ever post it?

@symo89 6 жыл бұрын

Did you end up doing a video with the different steels on the ice???

@Krusty366 3 жыл бұрын

I use the Blademaster with the grinding wheel that swivels. I have never done a crosscut and wanted to know the disk on my machine will be dressed at 1/2 inch. How do I dress the disk for crosscutting?

@keelanmac6719 6 жыл бұрын

Does every hockey shop that sharpens skates do this? Also what would be an approximate cost

@williamwiszowaty7920 7 жыл бұрын

+the hockey movement by how to hockey so if one of my outside edges gets dull quicker than my inside edges should I get my skates profiled?

@danielpickettjr2203 4 жыл бұрын

Isn't the forward and backward lean also called rocking if I'm not mistaken? I always was more partial towards the forward rocking, pretty sure was the only one on the team to have it growing up. Started 1999 didn't get the skate rocking till u10s I think? Changed my whole defensive game for sure and for the better

@MrSamin25 7 жыл бұрын

What are his thoughts on the sparx sharpener?

@MichaelJones-qf3qt 4 жыл бұрын

Would weight be an contributing factor on what blade you should be getting?

@Fluke2SS 3 жыл бұрын

@Coach Jeremy Referring to 5:27 I played hockey 20 years ago myself, for 14 years, I used a rare skate sharpening. And whatever the default profile was on Bauer Supreme 3000's. I recently bought new skates, Bauers, but I can't seem to find my skate sharpening, and profile. I am currently using 5/8ths sharpening, the blade sharpness feels ok, but I think my big issue is I can't find my skate profile from 20 years ago. I even called Bauer asking them what the default profile was on the Bauer 3000 supreme skates were. I never got a response. I have a neutral profile right now, and I still cannot control my balance or get the feel I had when I last played. The only thing I know for sure I cannot use a forward lean. Right now feels like I'm struggling to balance myself like I'm falling foward. Would a reverse lean help me in this regard?