''HOW?'' Remix - Vibration VS Inward Bass (Opera Singer STUMPED) reaction

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Lesage Singing

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23 күн бұрын

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@LesageSinging
@LesageSinging 21 күн бұрын
Before anyone explains "inward bass is when the arytenoids rattle against the epiglottis", I have yet to find any source that states this. I have no idea where people got this idea. It also makes very little sense to me given how freely many can adjust their pitch. I'm not making any claims that I know how inward bass works. I'm saying we shouldn't be so quick to give absolute credence to speculation just because it sounds good/feels correct. We have to have a higher standard in order to avoid what has happened to the short hand of singing jargon. The amount of people I have to help by simply untwisting bad definitions or nonsensical visualizations is insanely frustrating. Beatboxing jargon is young and we can do better. Once my insurance situation is figured out AND I can actually do inward bass, I plan to get scoped and film it (which probably still won't give a complete answer). In the meantime, let's have fun learning about all of the crazy things the voice can do.
@qts
@qts 20 күн бұрын
In favor of the theory about the connection between inward bass and the epiglottis, I can say that I achieve this bass when I place something in my throat in the same position as when I do chest bass, the connection of which with the epiglottis, in turn, has been proven (if my memory serves me right).
@coderaven1107
@coderaven1107 20 күн бұрын
I am still hoping for someone to scope DLow, Remix, Inertia or Heartzel. This would be SO good!
@LesageSinging
@LesageSinging 20 күн бұрын
If you find something on the epiglottis, I'd love to see it. I've been searching for over a year and I've even reached out to, and interviewed, a scientist. There are not many people studying beatboxing specifically in academia. I keep hearing it's been proven, but I have yet to find proof. when it comes to feelings and things like placement, very few of the moving parts in our voice have nerve endings and even the ones that do seldom have nerves associated with the sensation of touch. What I feel when I use chest bass/vibration bass is a fry with extremely lax false folds. The false folds are 4-6 times the size of the vocal folds and so the potential for lower notes is tremendous. However, what I feel doesn't really matter. When we have visualizations or sensation, and they help us learn, we should keep those. Useful ideas don't need empirical proof to be useful. We just need to own that it's useful even if we don't know if it's true is all. If we sat around and waited for empirical data before we actually practiced or tried, we would never get good at anything.
@LesageSinging
@LesageSinging 20 күн бұрын
I'd love for one of those beat boxers to be scoped. not all basses are equal in tone quality. more than just the base (pun intended) mechanics of how the sound is produced would be amazing.
@FrozenMermaid666
@FrozenMermaid666 20 күн бұрын
I cannot do this type of inward bass yet, as it’s extremely difficult to figure out how to do it, tho luckily I discovered four or five other types of inward bass sounds while trying to get to the right placement for this type of inward bass, but after trying do make the sound, my hoarseness level got to fifty percent or more, so now I cannot sing my 7th octave head voice notes well, and even my sixth octave head voice notes are going into polyphonic pitches and don’t sound clear enough, and I got an odd tone in my chest voice and in my mixed voice too, though it’s a bit better than yesterday - normally I can sing from C6 to C8 or higher in head voice, and even my mixed voice can be stretched up to an A6 or C7 sometimes, while my chest voice goes from A0 with subharmonic technique to A5 with upper belting technique and around A1 or G1 with humming technique, as I have the highest voice ever (sopranino with 100% coloratura subtype) with the whitest / lightest / brightest tone and most tonal nuances, so my voice is extremely agile and flexible, and, my whistle register goes from the fourth octave or lower to A10 or to the eleventh octave, having the widest natural range in every vocal register, plus I also practice overtone singing and subharmonic bass sounds etc, and I’m trying to learn all sorts of cool sounds, as I recently started learning beatboxing sounds, so hopefully I’ll get the right inward bass sound soon, as it sounds real cool, and it has that distinctive texture and sound, so I can immediately recognise it when I hear it in a new song or video! (By the way, I am sure this type of inward bass is inward subharmonics or something like that, so it might have to do with the epiglottis, but, in my case, when trying to make that sound, I cannot get the false vocal cords to deactivate, so I keep getting this inward growl-like bass sound that’s similar to metal growling instead, which makes my throat sore!)
@sk8pkl
@sk8pkl 20 күн бұрын
At the beginning when you looked at that sound graph and told that these frequencies are probably more present because of how the human ear is tuned... It dosent make sense because the sound is picked by a mic and processed through a cpu. It dosent go through a human before it appears on your screen. I dont know if i misunderstood your point, but that's what i've picked up.
@coderaven1107
@coderaven1107 20 күн бұрын
What he meant is that the frequency range he highlighted in the spectogram is one for which the human ear is especially sensitive (i.e. at the same volume we perceive it as louder in that frequency range than in another frequency range (e.g. very low frequencies)). The reason why this evolved, is that voices or cries of babies are in that frequency range, so people with such an "ear-tuning" and their descendants have a higher rate of survival than people who dont and this property of hearing becomes common over generations. There is a whole branch of science that is all about understanding the sound perception of humans. It's called psychoacoustics and it's full of interesting knowledge (imo atleast 😆) Hope this helped. You are right about the measured sound most likely not being exactly the same as it wouldve been live, but that was not his point there.
@sk8pkl
@sk8pkl 20 күн бұрын
@@coderaven1107 im french so i probably didnt got it right. It sounded like that though! Anyways have a good one
@LesageSinging
@LesageSinging 20 күн бұрын
ultimately we have to listen to the audio at some point and so the way our ear is tuned is always going to influence how we hear. This is why people work so hard when mixing audio. what I could have done was EQ the audio myself and that would have allowed us to more easily hear the lower frequencies. I'll have to remind myself to do this moving forward.
@ash.beatbox8110
@ash.beatbox8110 21 күн бұрын
could you react to gbb finals napom vs river? :)
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