I tried it. I can get to 3 times, but then I end with "Diggity Diggity Diggity."

@@Joe-ik1phdiggity diggity doo

@@Joe-ik1ph 😂

I ended with biggayparade

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I originally learned this info you brought in Avatar: The Legend of Aang. There is an owl spirit that lives in a library. I don’t remember his name, but his title was “the one that knows 10.000 things” and that is meant to mean that he knows a lot, not that he knows EXACTLY 10.000 things. It’s always nice to spread knowledge.

It also could just mean that, while zora were present and existed in Hyrule, an independent kingdom did not come about until much later

Funnily eough this also true in English! Myriad both means a lot and 10000.

Surely, nintendo wouldn't add something that vague to their game's lore... ...Right?

Thank you so much. Whether or not BotW/TotK take place on (any of) the timeline(s), this fixes sooo many problems.

Real lol. I’m a pretty new Zelda fan, but I’ve become kinda obsessed because of this stuff. The only other fandom that I can think of that’s this obsessed with making canon fit together is Star Wars, and even they’re not this insane.

Fans: There must be an extremely complicated and impossibly bulletproof plan and detailed timeline in the Devs heads. GJRRM on GoT: I have a dude that remembers the lore for me because I forget. Akira Toriyama on why some characters don't show up anymore in Dragonball: *who?* what are u talking about? 👀 Oh I forgot they exist The Devs are just people they probably either forgot or didn't realise it was a possible issue 😂

@@MxDiagnosis the devs: yea, these 3 games and all future games are standalone unless stated otherwise. It wasn't that they forgot in the case of Zelda, it's that they legit don't WANT to be tied down by having to have a "canon timeline" anymore. The 3 games being Age of Calamity, BoTW and ToTK, which are connected to eachother, but not connected to any of the other games, as evidenced by the discrepancies with the sealing war, founding of Hyrule, etc.

@@scottishcheese13 Check out Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere (like Mistborn or the Way of Kings) if you like different fantasy stories that have lots of connections

​@scottishcheese13 also a star wars fan, they are 100% this insane as well haha. It's sad but kind of understandable why the developers dont really cater to people who love lore, i'm sure it's hard for them to keep up with the lore internally. Maybe that's why totk doesnt really connect to the previous games, they just didnt wanna accidentally retcon things more than they did

I remember a fake documentary that was on a television channel once, that tried to do a "If dragons were real, how would they work scientifically?" One part basically said that the serpent-like body shape of eastern dragons was the result of dragons there retreating to the water for safety (and evolving to survive there), and later came back to the land relatively recently. European dragons never retreated to the ocean, and thus the different appearance compared to eastern dragons. So BotW Rito could be Zora that stayed bird people (and evolved to be more bird-like), while BotW Zora are Zora that evolved into the beak-nosed Rito, only to evolve back into Zora after the flood was over.

i think the thing is that wind waker never implied that there were other tribes of zora, leading us to believe they all just became the rito.

It's the classic, if dogs come from wolves, why are there still wolves? style of disingenuous argument for the sake of argument. It's not that complicated, given you actually want to understand how species diversify.

Plus there's one or more games I remember that literally had two different types of zora(one friendly, and one enemies). Full on different species.

@@samuelhagberg3694personally the only one i can think of is link between worlds and i think in that one the zora queen basically said "yeah, i tell my subjects to behave but none of them listen."

50%? What is the rest made of? I only remember silver.

​@@hermi1-kenobi455some non specified, silver like metal. It is described as "special" and "very durable and rust-proof". It's probably some ancient stainless steel/silver alloy or something.

@@asurveillancecamera3392 judging by what you say we could probably say it’s a form of silver while being mixed with a bit of platinum for the durability. Though you have to take in the count platinum being probably a valuable resource so they probably only would use something like that with the Royal blood line since platinum is a rare resource and all.

ooooh ty! @@asurveillancecamera3392

​@@hermi1-kenobi455 one of the tablets in BotW describes the land of Zora's Domain being "rich in ore", and the ancient Zora creating a "unique form of stonemasonry" for the construction of Zora's Domain. The Zora weapons might be made out of the same material as the Domain itself, with the same form of stonemasonry, which results in the waterproof, rust proof, water-damage-boosting properties of their weapons (and it might not *actually be* silver, the ore might just be silver in color. Sterling silver is *more resistant* to tarnishing from getting wet, but it still has to be kept dry and out of excess moisture so it won't tarnish so fast)

They live incredibly long lives and so they’re likely better at keeping oral history than most

@@M33f3r Considering Dorephan was king 100 years before BotW (likely a good while before then as well considering his daughter Mipha is a Zora of some type of maturity by that time), plus Sidon "only" being as big as he is compared to his father after a full 100 years and change, the Zora likely have lifespans in the vein of fantasy elves, lasting centuries as a baseline. The sage shown in TotK is likely only about 5-12 generations removed from present day.

Not unbelievable though. I'll take this over needing to ignore big plotholes because of the post-skyward sword interpretation.

Wasn’t there like 10,000+ years between Age Of Calamity and Ocarina Of Time? Not unbelievable but like what the hell

@@i_garfed_on_the_carpet 10,000 years before Age of Calamity was the Ancient Calamity. 20-30,000 years before that was the Tears of the Kingdom past cutscenes An UNFATHOMABLE AMOUNT OF TIME before that was Ocarina of Time. Ocarina of Time is so ancient there is no proof it even happened. The Ancient Cistern is eldritch levels of old as a structure. The Temple of Time is slightly less eldritch, with Rauru (the light sage) likely having built it during the time of Hylia.

In real life we have RECORDS of things like this. And usually they don't completely fail to mention they exist when they're sentient beings with language

Yeah but real life Evolution doesn't take just 10000 years to change from a either fish creature or mammalian creature into a bird creature.

@@jacquestuber628 Which is why I brought up the fact that there was magic involved...

​@Applemangh yeah its not farfetched since magic exists in the zelda games. I mean if Purah can change her age with magic, I don't see why they couldn't use magic to evolve because clearly it is capable of changing bodies

Purah didn't change her age with magic she did it by experimenting with sheikah technology

It's possible that they started living around Fire Mountains volcanic seafloor vents.

@@bennusmagnus5277that actually makes a lot of sense since they don’t need to breathe. They might just be chilling at the base of death mountain, underwater, Eaton rocks.

theres a reason they had to be distracted by crack instead of suffocated, blinded, and frozen.

@@kitsofthekats7040 For a second there I forgot the marbled rock roasts existed, and your comment was incredibly concerning.

same @@bennusmagnus5277 much confusion for a good minute, i was like uh could he mean a literal hole in the ground? but yes, very valid point @kisofthekat7040

Well, some of those Zora may have stayed outside of Hyrule too.

Right the Zora who stayed who stayed became the Rito or were wiped out, the ones who left created a new domain under Ruta but then later came back when the waters receded, which explains the silver, while the “old” domain” (really the newer roots), adopted gold.

@@mackenziebeeney3764where does it saw about the newer roots

Maybe the fish and algae in Hyrule’s seas are spiceier than in it’s lakes and rivers?

I mean, why do you think that River Zoras and Fire Arrows never appear in the same game?

Neither did I, I honestly never really thought about it.

Like, some dragon like people, like... Volga in Hyrule warrior ? (I think he is the only case of a humanoid dragon in Zelda, even if it is non-canon)

I think its more so toned down their aquatic traits while making them more avian baseline. It could be that the BotW Zora are merely how the fish-people look when without a patron, compare them to the child timeline zora with larger fins and greater reliance on water or the downfall zora who became more similar to monsters. I think the Oracle games even have link meet some zora that still resemble the ones from OoT and have a patron.

​@@orianefaton1885ummm, actually

Why? It's more like mammoths and elephants. Mammoths split into many different kinds of elephants. Some big, some smaller.

​@@aaronolson6736the fuck is a patron in this context

That connection between them was merely a suggestion based off of their naming similarities, but wasn't actually a canonical thing. I'm pretty sure one of the books makes this suggestion, while at the same time, it also suggests that Valoo, the Spirit of the Sky is the descendant of Volvagia, the Spirit of the Mountain. Volvagia has always been an evil dragon Spirit. Its hard to believe something that naturally evil would have such a well meaning descendant like Valoo. I just think they wrote a lot of stuff in those books that visually looked like it made sense to them when seeing the material in front of them to place into the book, but unless you really played these games, you wouldn't know any better.

@@GossipGeist It's not so much the names being similar, its that Sages tend to be related and when the Rito Sage in Windwaker "becomes a Sage" and plays her music or whatever her "ancestor" a zora sage appears... but I guess i remembered things incorrectly as this is a different zora than Ruto, and was a "Earth Sage" not the "Water Sage" that Ruto was... so i guess i messed that point up.

@@mazhiwezakizo3513 Well, nothing stop that Ruto may have had more than one kid, leaving one of those to stay with their people (maybe the eldest) and leaving with the youngest that may still need her or something, you know.

​@@mazhiwezakizo3513Well even the Earth Sage Laruto could have descended from Ruto, it would make a lot of sense and would also make Medli her blood descendant since she's related to Laruto.

​@@GossipGeistyeah the books just made stuff up to look nice, and the games are disconnected and not a cohesive lore, no matter how much we retroactively apply lore. And nintendo definitely lied the first time they said they had a real timeline. Fans made the timeline, Nintendo just took the concept.

Yes😊

With that in mind it makes so much sense that you can find all the previous hero’s gear kept safe in chests only in Zonai ancients buildings, because it's relics of their tales and history. Meaning that Zonai in previous games were maybe indeed gods living above, watching Hyrule, before deciding to descend among hyrulians for not know reasons yet ( Kind of loopholes in what I said but I like the idea )

@@namazuna4739 I can see that as well. Honestly, I saw it as the Zonai coming down after a timeline convergence left the people in a, well, to be generous, a dark age

@@soloknight7197 I agree. During this convergence, maybe even the kingdom of Hyrule in itself may have been lost, explaining why King Rauru is presented as the creator of the kingdom of Hyrule as if it didn’t exist before. Zonai may have suffer from the convergence too, explaining their decline, leading the few descending to the earth and try to recreate a new Hyrule as their knew before ( Even if I do have another theory that Zonai may have doomed themselves and their civilisation relying to much on zonaite and begin to decline when zonaite became too rare due to their overuse)

@@namazuna4739 That makes sense

So basically, the same hyperbolic use as when we default to "a million".

@@aliciacordero8399 In terms of the actual meaning, the English equivalent would be closer to when we use a made-up measurement like a "bajillion" or "zillion." We're making it sound like it could be an actual number by using something that sounds like actual large counts like billion or trillion, but the actual meaning is that the made-up number is just a stand-in for the concept of "too big to give an actual number to." The main difference is just that they use an actual number (10,000) rather than a made-up one.

There isn’t a way of saying the number in plural in Japanese, so they have to say the specific huge number (ie there’s no word for “hundreds” or “thousands”). Eight hundred is another of of those figurative numbers that just means “a lot, but not more than a thousand”. Whereas in English and similar languages it could have been translated as “thousands of years ago”

@@justcomments interesting

But japanese has a word for 10 thousand (ichi man) 20 (ni man) 100 thousand (jyu man) a million (hyakku man) and even 'several ten thousands' (suu man) (yes they use 10 thousand as unit, just like we do with 1000) I'm not sure if this theory applies here

What things from SS? The tadpoles? I played it long ago and forgot it 😅

@@umi2751 yeah the parella, they live in the same area, are sentient aquatic race, and were planned to look more like Zora originally. They might nor be zora ancestors but they were clearly meant to be connected.

EXCELLENT vid as always btw

It's most likely a soft reboot of the franchise.

@@zomfraggerwhich sucks and I reject wholeheartedly. The original imprisoning war story and timeline is so much more interesting than TotK’s mess of a story.

​@@disgustedluigiAgreed.

The past part of TOTK doesn’t explicitly state it takes place at the same time as OoT. So it’s better assumed that the past of TOTK still takes place thousands of years after the other Zelda games. Another thing to note, Nintendo doesn’t seem to actually care about the timeline and only make it seem like they do for the fans.

nabooru was also alluded to in breath of the wild

I mean, why wouldn't they have all come back? The fact that Rauru isn't with them on Death Mountain sort of gives the feeling that they aren't just visiting in Spirit form

I got so confused there for a hot second until I remembered Rauru was also the name of the OG light sage in OoT, not just the furry king lmao @@heyoyo10gaming4

@@majora5651 Wait until you hear about what they called the battle where Ganondorf was sealed away after OOT in the Fallen Hero Timeline

What if she gave birth before dying or even becoming a sage?

Well The Goron and Gerudo Devine beast were named after the sages from OTT so they knew about them somehow too

Plus Gorons literally have their heroes faces carved in Goron city so they def are know. If one exists, their face is seen, then the rest exist too imo

Well the hero didn't show up, and then as a last resort the gods solved the problem by flooding Hyrule. There wasn't much Ruto could have done at that point except make sure her people survive. The other sages likely did the same for their own people

The Koroks have always looked like Koroks. They were only human appearing for the sake of the Hero of Time. Once he was gone they returned to their little cute tree forms lol

Are phantom hourglass and spirit tracks actually centuries apart? I thought it wasn’t that long since niko is still alive

Erm no. Spirit tracks takes place in a new hyrule they found after a few months of sailing. Tetra was Zelda's grandmother in Spirit Tracks so thats 2 generations at best. Hylians live longer yes but not centuries lol. Officially its like 100 years I believe

​@@quadzers5703Yeah tetra was also zelda's grandmother so centuries is a hell of an overstatement

That’s why the separation theory initially makes sense… though when I thought about it more I realized that Zora would probably die if they came into contact with salt water… so my current theory is that all the Zora evolved into the Rito in Windwaker, and then later the timelines merged and the Sora from the Child Timeline populated the Lanayru region

The Twilight Princess Rito carvings are non-canon.

@@Ahouro Is that officially stated?

@@MrMindCloud If you go to Zeltik, look for this video Zelda: Twilight Princess' Strangest Mystery… Solved? and then you will have all information on the mural you will need.

It really should be at this point, but after the last two games, I don't think it is anymore, lol.

Thank you for watching my content! I put a lot of time into researching this one, I'm glad that you enjoyed it!

Yes sir

Why do you still use the word pog

What is wrong with you?

@@UnreadyBelief many things

@@NotThatAxl same honestly

My theory is that the Great Flood of Hyrule was potentially one of the apocalyptic occurances that took place that aided the timeline into converging. After the Great Sea receded, the Zonai and other races resettled the land. The Rito we see in the Wind Waker could be even more ancient than the ones referred to by the Rito in Tears of the Kingdom. Or, TotK is just straight up in the Adult Timeline and it's only a matter of time until someone finds out how to prove it. This theory should help kickstart that journey, I hope. Also, I see you've decided to become a Legend! Thank you for your support!

The Stormwind Ark was most likely built after all games except Botw and Totk.

There's no converging, just a soft reboot where past games are old "legends".

unless you count the converging that happened in Hyrule Warriors

Deliberately obscured and (potentially) implied? Yes. Confirmed convergence? No.

To be honest with you, neither did I until I was making this video, lmao.

The lizalfos?

​@@The-Silliest-Little-GuyLizarfos have always been regular enemies throughout the series.

Yep, that's the idea. After the Great Sea receded, he refounded the Kingdom of Hyrule.

Interesting... but there was no ancient texts about the past hyrule and not even an infamous name like link was a first thing that the king of the gerudo would know about. He questioned the name once he heard it.

Or we're all going blind because they're is no Rito in TotK's past section. I think Nintendo is gaslighting us into thinking Rito existed around Ocarina of time.

I still think that the Past events of TotK/BotW occur AFTER the latest events of all the previous games. Alot of minor details would seem to support this. The known history of the Gerudo in TotK/BotW and their appearance would also imply that. OoT Gerudo have gold eyes and round ears, but in TotK/BotW, their eyes are now red and they have pointed ears... except Ganondorf who still has round ears and gold eyes. If OoT occurs after TotK/BotW past events... then OoT Gannondorf would be a much more recent occurrence in Gerudo history than TotK/BotW Gannondorf, yet the Gerudo are shamed by the current game's Gannondorf and it's because of him that they don't permit to have another male be born... instead of making any mention of OoT Gannondorf.

Yes, there are strong indications imo that the geography of BotW/TotK (which I vote we start calling the Merged Timeline) is mostly from the Adult Timeline. It also makes the most sense for the Zonai to have evolved during this timeline as well, perhaps taking to the sky to avoid the flooding of Hyrule.

My favourite out of Dorito (The Rito) is Ravioli (Revali) from Breath of the Wild lmao. Now I need to figure out how many Rito have names that are similar to food

True, the original calamity from that time might not have gone peacefully

Imo there’s no way the memories happen before Skyward Sword. There’s a lot of evidence to suggest that Windwaker has already happened and that this is a Hyrule that was once underwater (The Hyrule compendium entry for rock salt mentions it being left over from a great sea, and this is an item you can find on mountains). Most likely both games - including the memories - happen at the beginning of a Merged Timeline; the merging of the timelines would also explain why so much of their cultural memory treats the memories as “the beginning.” A lot of stuff was forgotten as two distinct versions of a Hyrule collided

Or that 10,000 years Isn't literal. Oftentimes stories Use large Numbers to Just say "A really Long time," Especially when It's being Translated. like, Moses spending 40 days In the Desert.

I played both games, but I had kinda forgotten about it, until the picture was showed and I was like "wait, isn't it.. oh SHIT !" and then I was hit with the realisation he explained and was like "I am an idiot sometimes..."

There’s better evidence for the memories to exist after all previous games and after a timeline merge, especially because there’s a lot of details to suggest Windwaker already happened, and that comes after OoT

@@c.r.blankenship9040 I can see it either way, but I'm curious, what's your support for favoring post-WW? Why I think it's on an alt timeline (which branched from Skyward Sword): -No mention of the Zonai in other timelines. Also the Sheikah went extinct when they are practically flourishing in 10000 prior to BOTW, and during BOTW and TOTK -SS Link and Zelda settled the surface but did not formerly establish a new kingdom -The springs, temples, and architecture of Skyward Sword are all still heavily featured and unchanged in BOTW/TOTK. This could be because Fujibayashi was the director on all 3 games however. -This placement gives credence that Rauru and Sonia are the first of the Hyrulean dynasty and their unbroken lineage allowed to flourish better until Zelda who inherited their power -I'm pretty convinced Ganondorf of OOT and TOTK are the same individual in parallel timelines. His actions are the same, and in both games he distinctly has rounded ears -Still keeps consistency with the Zora Stone tablets which is the only recorded history -It doesn't interfere with events and happenings of other Zelda games, this timeline may even re-join those timelines at some point There are of course some inconsistencies to still work out but I see this as a better placement theory.

@@Axecon1 so I’m probably gonna miss something in your comment so just reiterate it if I do, and I apologize if this is a little bit scattered. 1) the maps of BotW, TotK, and the TotK memories are all the same, indicating a continuous timeline between all three games but not with Skyward Sword 2) I don’t know if Koroks ever show up in the memories but in order for the memories to be before Skyward Sword, the Koroks would have to still be the Kokiri 3) the existence of the Arbiter’s Grounds - in a more ruined state than it was in in Twilight Princess - means that this is after Twilight Princess (though I suppose this wouldn’t technically rule out the memories happening before Twilight Princess) 4) Ganondorf did reincarnate once before at the end of the child timeline, so it’s not out of the realm of possibility that it happened again 5) the Hyrule compendium entries for rock salt mentio that it was left behind by the great sea 6) the best explanation for when and why the Zonai evolved in the first place is the flooding of Hyrule, though they could conceivably also be descendants of the Wind Tribe from Minish Cap - either way, can’t be between Skyward Sword and Minish Cap 6) There is a rito sage who has the same fully avian appearance just like in BotW as opposed to the more human-looking rito in Windwaker, suggesting at least a thousand years of further evolution in the intervening time 7) the female Gerudo in the memories have pointed ears, which places them a considerable time after Ocarina I think there’s more, but I can’t think of it right now

@@c.r.blankenship9040 Thanks for sharing! I'm curious if we'll get answers in the DLC or future Zelda games but for now I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of debate on the timeline placement for years to come

He's a heavy sleeper I suppose. The man needs his beauty nap, I mean look at those wrinkles in TotK!

@@GossipGeist thing that is missing is that males in the gerudo is suppose to be born every 100 years but in botw it has been over 10k years from what we hear on a male being born in the race

Short answer: Hyrule was refounded. The map of the Imprisoning War's world is the same as BotW and 10 000 years ago. The other games have different maps but Ancient Hyrule having the same as BotW proves that they took place consecutively, not before any of the other games. Other things prove this as well. The Zonai rulers calling the Phantom Ganon armor ancient to them or the Imprisoning War being a documented part of Hyrule's history (Therefore not part of the era of myth) means that the other games took place before.

​@Defender1876 My Theory about that is the the Gerudo Women keep evert male born a heavy secret. They may feel that it may incite fear in Hyrule since they know the calamity was once a Gerudo Male. A more morbid theory is that they straight up kill every male at birth. Though, I highly doubt Nintendo would make that Canon.

Hm well the issue with Ganon is simple. He is put on a life and death needle which could imply that the Ganondorf did restart the curse but once calamity broke out (or the past battles did) it would weaken the seal. We also have to take I to a fact that almost every Ganondorf before or after was attracted to his body, aka under hyrule. They usually go towards hyrule all the time.

Oh, good catch!

"Attentive readers may note that the timeline shown here differs slightly from the one found in Hyrule Historia. The timeline can be interpreted in a number of ways, and may change depending on new discoveries that have come to light and on the players' imaginations.” Page 10 of Zelda Encyclopedia >>>Classic Timeline >Skyward Sword (The Imprison is crushed by Link’s Triforce wish. Divine prank allows the Master Sword to exist in two timelines.) (Founding of Hyrule) (The Hero of Men received the Minish Blade) >Minish Cap (Vaati is sealed) (Vaati escapes and kidnaps beautiful girls, a Hero use the Four Swords again.) >Four Swords (Ganondorf is born) >Four Swords Adventures (Imprisoning War) >A Link to the Past >Link’s Awakening (Triforce splits) >A Link Between Worlds >Tri Force Heroes >Oracle of Ages/Seasons >The Legend of Zelda >The Adventure of Link >>>Child Timeline >Skyward Sword (The Imprison is crushed by Link’s Triforce wish. Divine prank allows the Master Sword to exist in two timelines.) (Founding of Hyrule) (The Hero of Men received the Minish Blade) >Minish Cap (Vaati is destroyed) (Ganondorf is born) >Ocarina of Time (child timeline) (Ganondorf is captured) >Majora’s Mask >Twilight Princess >>>Adult Timeline >Skyward Sword (The Imprison is crushed by Link’s Triforce wish. Divine prank allows the Master Sword to exist in two timelines.) (Founding of Hyrule) (The Hero of Men received the Minish Blade) >Minish Cap (Vaati is destroyed) (Ganondorf is born) >Ocarina of Time (adult timeline) (Ganondorf is sealed) (The Great Flood) >Wind Waker >Phantom Hourglass (Founding of New Hyrule) >Spirit Tracks >>>Wild Timeline >Skyward Sword (Demise is killed by Link in the past. Divine prank allows the Master Sword to exist in two timelines.) (Founding of Hyule by the Zonai) (Ganondorf is born) (Tears of the Kingdom memories) (Imprisoning War) (First Calamity) (Breath of the Wild memories) (Second Calamity) >Breath of the Wild >Tears of the Kingdom Remember Link left the Triforce of Courage into eight pieces for Wind Waker, but then he STILL have the Triforce of Courage on the end of OoT to show to Zelda. Think of OoT Link trades the Triforce of Courage for another Triforce of Courage in the past, thus making Ganondorf and Zelda's family in the Child timeline to have their own Triforce. TP Ganondorf has the whole “Prank of the Gods". In Skyward Sword Link went to the past to fight Ghirahim, he "TRADED" the Master Sword for another new Master Sword just like the Triforce in with OoT Link. Fi was “doubled”, so the two Fi both the original. That way, you have the Master Sword existed both the present and the alternate past. Timeline has only the starting point Skyward Sword, followed by Minish Cap. Minish Cap caused a 2-way split: PRIME Split: Link makes it to Vaati before the third bell, stopping his ritual to steal Zelda's Light Force, then has his showdown with the wind mage. This outcome leads to the BRIGHT Timeline. ALTERNATE Split: Link fails to reach Vaati by the third bell, leading to Vaati absorbing Zelda's Light Force, and Zelda dies. This outcome leads to the DARK Timeline. Expanding on each timeline split from Minish Cap: BRIGHT Timeline Vaati fails to steal Zelda's Light Force; Zelda survives; Link DESTROYS Vaati with the foursword - this IS the actual ending we DO see, when we beat Minish Cap. Recall that Vaati was NOT SEALED, he was destroyed. This becomes the timeline where Vaati no longer exists; Zelda was not killed; and Hyrule did not lose the Light Force for a few generations, thus it evolved more prosperously and had little adversity outside of the Fierce War, which was THIS timeline's conflict over the Sacred Realm and Triforce (note too that the knowledge of this realm and relic comes FAR SOONER than in the DARK Timeline). The King unified Hyrule and peace followed, up until this timeline's first game - Ocarina of Time. Ganondorf born in THIS timeline, has already seen the 'war' and even joined the King's truce. THIS Ganondorf's ambitions for power followed a path to the ultimate power, the Triforce, which he is very aware of and so his M.O. took him on a more political approach, earlier on. Of course we know the two fates THIS Ganondorf follows, one for each of the two timelines that split from OOT: CHILD, to Twilight Princess where he is KILLED (and there IS NO Four Swords Adventures thereafter); and ADULT, to Wind Waker where he is KILLED (and there ARE two incredibly stupid games to finish off the ADULT continuity, that I cannot even bring myself to even CALL 'Zelda games': Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks). DARK Timeline Vaati successfully absorbs Zelda's Light Force, vastly increasing his powers and killing Zelda; Link has a much harder fight but he IS the hero and prevails; Vaati is too powerful to be destroyed by the foursword, so Link is forced to SEAL him instead. THIS timeline is darker from the get-go, as Hyrule has lost their beloved princess and is robbed of the light force until Hylia's next reincarnation in a future Zelda. No pantheon of sages is established until centuries later, as the powers are passed through bloodlines and normally held by the young 'maidens' of those lines. There is no temple of time; rather there was the need to establish a sanctuary to house the foursword and it's prisoner. Vaati eventually breaks free, as we see in Four Swords, and the hero again defeats and reseals him. Then comes Four Swords Adventures (obviously the true Four Swords sequel) where we contend with Vaati one final time. But by now, Link's foursword is steroided-up on power; whilst the wind mage's stolen light force from centuries past, has waned enough such that Link is finally able to destroy Vaati. But on top of being the sequel to Four Swords and the final curtain for Vaati, it is also a PREQUEL to A Link to the Past; and most importantly: Four Swords Adventures, is THIS timeline's introduction to Ganondorf! THIS Ganondorf, much like the rest of THIS Hyrule save for the royal family, has NO KNOWLEDGE whatsoever of any Triforce or sacred realm (actually called the Golden Land in this timeline). As such, THIS Ganondorf's ambitions lead him to seek out the most powerful artifact that he WAS aware of: the Dark Trident. It is this trident that makes him GANON in THIS timeline; and ONLY in THIS timeline, does he EVER have the trident. At the end of Four Swords Adventures, Zelda and the six maidens seal Ganon within the foursword. And by the time Ganon escapes (if a far weaker Vaati can do it twice, c'mon!), the world is now aware of the Golden Land and it's sacred relic; and Ganon leads one of the many armies fighting in what was called the Imprisoning War. These armies eventually breached the golden land, and fought within that land to claim the Triforce; so the King ordered the seven sages of that time (which did NOT include Zelda and in fact, were originally called the Seven Wise Men) to seal the gate to the Golden Land, thus IMPRISONING the armies within - hence the name of that war. In A Link to the Past, Link learns more from the seven maidens he rescues - that Ganon was the victor who claimed the triforce, and wished to rule the world, which turned the golden land into the Dark World. And there you have it. Timeline that makes perfect sense, with splits that make perfect sense. Solving the FSA problem by recognizing it is direct sequel for FS and the prequel to ALTTP. There aren't actually two Ganondorfs, it is the same man born into each of the two timelines. The one in OOT then experiences a timeline split leading to the two different ADULT/CHILD destinies. Chronologically, OOT is at par with FSA; which would mean that OOT's Link 'the hero of time', is THAT timeline's version of the FSA Link; and same with the Zeldas in fact.

considering moblin has been used to describe dogmen, heffalumps and extremely obese bokoblins. This could make sense for the Rito too.

@@methodius--9405 Your timeline is impossible so stop spreading it, we know you like to spread this lie.

@@Ahouro it’s not really impossible. BotW and TotK are basically a fourth timeline from that branches off from Skyward Sword. Besides, Zelda Encyclopedia and the Official Zelda website says that can our “imaginations” can be used.

@@methodius--9405 A timeline split from Skyward sword is impossible because one of them would not have Skyward sword Zelda in them and without her no Hyrulian royal family.

Well, the Satori is a dead sage, technically. I can’t remember where I saw it in Tears Of the Kingdom, but there was something about a story of a Sage that fought til his last breath, where it had died on Satori Mountain, becoming the guardian of the mountain after death.