How Slow Is The Ryzen 5 5600 For 2024 Gaming?
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How Slow Is The Ryzen 5 5600 For 2024 Gaming?
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@666Maeglin Ай бұрын
I think this ortherwise great comparison is missing an important measuring point. adding a 5700x3d or 5800x3d to see the max difference within the same platform..
@DaKrawnik Ай бұрын
This.
@KeoghDanielAU Ай бұрын
I said as much nearly an hour after you, not having read through the comments before posting my own. Glaring omission from the line-up.
@RadialSeeker113 Ай бұрын
Assume that it's equal to the 7600
@cptwhite Ай бұрын
@@RadialSeeker113 Yeah I was going to say the 5800X3D / 5700X3D and 7500F / 7600 / 7600X are pretty much interchangeable in terms of gaming performance.
@alexveber Ай бұрын
Yeah very odd the 5800x3d is missing especially as it is recommended at the end of the video
@mix3k818 Ай бұрын
It still feels like yesterday when that CPU launched
@foxxyboxxy9348 Ай бұрын
welcome to being old
@THU31 Ай бұрын
Well, it was just two years ago, while the original Zen 3 line-up launched 3.5 years ago. It took them 1.5 years to release an SKU cheaper than $300. They did it after Intel released entry level Alder Lake chips. AMD can be greedy too when they're on top. 😉
@gooddrugs649 Ай бұрын
they are just as greedy as nvidia. look at the gpus. XTX shouldn't exist at all, true 7800 XT is 7900 XT, same with 7700 XT, look at units. AMD does NOT care.
@Jackson-bh1jw Ай бұрын
@@THU31 say tnx that AMD made intel sell cpus a third of the price, yeah thnx for nothing from you nab.
@jothain Ай бұрын
Lol. It feels like yesterday since I updated from i7-2600k (970 gtx) to R5 3600 (3060) 😂
@Alxium Ай бұрын
I went from a 2600 to a 5600 over a year ago, and it's been literally perfect for me. I don't play many new games, mostly needed it for video editing and it works like a charm in that regard. Not going to upgrade again for several years. (Paired with a 6650 XT at 1080p 144hz)
@proprietarycurez8463 Ай бұрын
yup
@hassosigbjoernson5738 Ай бұрын
Did a similar jump but with a RX 5700 XT aiming 1440p 60+ fps. It's great ... especially for that kind of money! And I still can upgrade to a X3D CPU or a RX 6800/ XT ... which would be another jump.
@Allyouknow5820 Ай бұрын
I'd probably buy a 5800x3d... keep it and upgrade next year, will feel like a new major update
@ranjitmandal1612 Ай бұрын
😮
@sznikers Ай бұрын
Second hand 5800x3d is deal of a decade when it comes to old pc upgrades.
@richdelmazzio9890 Ай бұрын
In my opinion, this type of content is so important to the community. As a builder myself, I get these questions all the time from my clients. I usually resort to extrapolating benchmarks from various videos and reviews to make the best decisions. Videos like this are incredibly valuable in this regard. It’s also off the beaten path which usually leads to more views if there is interest. Keep up the good work guys.
@mesicek7 Ай бұрын
We already had this kind of content it was called 720p benchmarks but the amd fanboys said those benchmarks weren't realistic because a certain someone said so.
@Lewis_mane Ай бұрын
@@mesicek7 weird reply comment lol
@mesicek7 Ай бұрын
@@Lewis_mane It's a weird comment cause it still pisses me off how people mostly noobs who were AMD fanboys tried to gaslight low-res benchmarks as bs.
@shadaoshai Ай бұрын
@@mesicek7 1080p is now the new low res benchmark target. And you can see from these benchmarks it's perfectly capable of giving us plenty of difference between CPU products. Not sure if you care or you're just stroking out on the other end of the keyboard.
@mesicek7 Ай бұрын
@@shadaoshai It's not though. It was already bottlenecking a 3080/6800xt when it launched - check TPU's benchmark
@KeoghDanielAU Ай бұрын
I gotta say, the missed opportunity for inclusion of a 5800X3D, the logical next-step for most AM4 users wanting to extend the life of their existing rigs (in that it also offers higher core count for productivity than the 5600, not just adding benefit in gaming) is a bit odd.
@evilleader1991 Ай бұрын
Look at 7600 numbers Theres your 5800x3d
@tollph3314 Ай бұрын
@@evilleader1991not true 3d is better
@tilapiadave3234 Ай бұрын
5800X3D world record holder for MOST over-rated OVER-hyped cpu in history
@evilleader1991 Ай бұрын
cool@@tilapiadave3234
@RarePotions Ай бұрын
@@evilleader1991 For the most part yeah but some games can take advantage of the extra cores and more cache that allow the 5800x3d to be closer to 7800x3d, depending on the game and resolution of course.
@Raindrop511 Ай бұрын
i upgraded from an i5 4690k to a Ryzen 5 5600 LOL, the upgrade felt great, so far it's done really well on a 165hz screen for esports/competitive games.
@free_stylabro6490 Ай бұрын
Lol! Exactly the same here. Had a i7 4690k with an AMD RX570. Now I have a 5600 with a 3060ti. I'm happy with it.
@Ober1kenobi Ай бұрын
My exact upgrade as well
@AponTechy Ай бұрын
I upgraded from i7 4770 to 5600😂
@NGreedia Ай бұрын
Went from a gtx 770 and i7 920 to 3060 and 5600. Was a pretty massive upgrade. In order to get a similar uplift in terms of gpu, I would need to skip right to a 4090 lol
@Howlsowls Ай бұрын
i7 4790 to 5600 and 6700xt
@thegreathadoken6808 Ай бұрын
Man those X3D chips really are great.
@t5kcannon1 Ай бұрын
Yes they are! I'm running a 7800X3D, and it is an impressive CPU.
@syncmonism Ай бұрын
The 7600 is even better considering how much it costs.
@zzavatski Ай бұрын
Not really. Only 7800x3d as you can't be semi competitive.
@eva-wh4nu Ай бұрын
@@zzavatski loving my 7950x3d for gaming and productivity
@hefty8876 Ай бұрын
@@t5kcannon1 100% agree. I went from a 7900x/4090 to a 7800x3D/4090 and the difference in .01% lows alone were WELL worth it.
@kotarojujo2737 Ай бұрын
Mine upgraded from 3100 and rx570 to 5600 and 6600 combo. Huge difference. Still with same b450 mobo
@magnusnilsson9792 Ай бұрын
Yep, about the same here 1300X + GTX780 to 5600 & A750 on a B350 MoBo.
@mynamejeffgaming Ай бұрын
I feel ya I went from a ryzen 3 3100 rx580 to ryzen 7 7800x3d and a 4080
@kotarojujo2737 Ай бұрын
@@mynamejeffgaming whoa thats even more huge leap
@HanSolo__ Ай бұрын
Legion 5 R7600 AMD RTX 3060 Mobile 6GB to the AM5 - R7600x (because cheapest) and 4070 Super. Mobo A620M.
@aby9x Ай бұрын
You missing the Gen 4 speed then
@samserious1337 Ай бұрын
With PBO at 4.65GHz and a cheap air cooler this CPU still rocks!
@connectingupthedots Ай бұрын
My 5600x hits 4.85ghz with pbo
@MalakaiDerg Ай бұрын
Don't bother overclocking it past that anyway. No gains and just gets hotter
@samserious1337 Ай бұрын
@@connectingupthedots Yes, because it has a higher baseclock^^
@Martin-wj6um Ай бұрын
my 5600 non x does 4.7@1.2 V up to 4.8 all cores
@metroplex29 Ай бұрын
Meh, not real difference on most recent games, kinda useless oc.
@darky799 Ай бұрын
I bought this cpu 6-7 months ago for 150$, paired with 6700 xt (237$, used but rma new unit), and with good cooler, its probably great for my 1080p 75hz monitor for years to come. (Previously i was on i3 8100 and 1060 3gb)
@dagnisnierlins188 Ай бұрын
There's a lot of affordable 144hz monitors, if possible get one, rx6700 xt can give you high refresh rate gaming.
@darky799 Ай бұрын
I recommend ryzen 5600 to anyone who wants to build budget fast enough 1080p or even 1440p pc, cause its better than 14100f and even i5 12400f specially with the motherboard pricing, and overclocking capablities of ram and cpu on cheap amd mobo, like b450 ds3h v2 is around 60-70$ and has 4 ram slots, and very good vrm heatsinks, and with some patience, you can oc ram with titght timings and undervolt (maybe even oc with uv) cpu beyond for great low temps, also good b550 mobo like ds3h are also under 100$ if you want pcie 4 benefits on gpu and nvme.
@AbbasDalal1000 Ай бұрын
Bro you could easily play ag 144 h,
@N.K.--- Ай бұрын
You should grab a 2k monitor there are plenty available in budget
@darky799 Ай бұрын
Thanks guys for recommending 2k monitor, problem is i got this 1080p monitor just about a year ago, when i still had old setup, and it was still huge improvement from my 768p tv lol, because it being ips and having freesync (over displayport on 1060) will get new monitor some time later..
@NootNoot. Ай бұрын
This and your other CPU scaling benchmarks are really useful, love seeing more of these types of benchmarks
@850DAB Ай бұрын
5600 still remains the best value IMO. The spiritual successor to the 1600AF
@FreshStew Ай бұрын
U can currently find the 12400f for a bit cheaper than 5600 + lga 1700 is a better platform than am4
@tanmaypanadi1414 Ай бұрын
@@FreshStew Deals can vary depending on where the buyer lives.
@NegerKim Ай бұрын
@@FreshStewAM4 is a way better platform than LGA1700. What you meant to say is that the upgrade path is "better", but at what cost? You might as well go for AM5 if you're building from scratch. The 5600 can be put in a 7 year old motherboard, you won't get that with an Intel-platform.
@Deathscythe91 Ай бұрын
not realy if you look at the benchmarks , the 7600 cost like 50$ more so better off getting that , get way more performance , buying a 5600 in 2024 is a real bad decision
@SweatyFeetGirl Ай бұрын
@@Deathscythe91 unless u are on ryzen 3000 or older. i got a 5600 for 115$ and got like a 30-50%fps uplift depending on the game compared to my 3700x
@iLLgetYourAse Ай бұрын
Would be great to see 5700X3D or 5800X3D in this tests, to see is there a reason to go to AM5 or stay on AM4 with X3Ds.
@allofyourdreams Ай бұрын
about the same performance as the 7600, So stay only if you are on the platform b450/b550 x470/x570
@MrGrzegorzD Ай бұрын
5800x3d is strong still. With 4090 I have like 15-20% performance loss compared to 7800x3d or 14900k
@Bsc8 Ай бұрын
@@allofyourdreamsmmmh my r7-5800x with 5GHz pbo and undervolt beats the 7600 so i guess the x3D are a lot faster than that 😂
@bal7ha2ar Ай бұрын
@@allofyourdreams the 5600x3d about matches the 7600, the 5800x3d is about 10% faster tho
@tsvetanbliznakov7694 Ай бұрын
1080p if 7800x3d yes, anything else is a hard no 1440p no to all 2160p no to all
@chewbster Ай бұрын
seeing my CPU in the video, looking to upgrade to an ultrawide and gpu, this 4K data was really, really helpful. Thank you
@MarkHyde Ай бұрын
These videos help as evidence for assessing CPU/GPU combos and how you budget for future upgrades. Thanks for this level of detail in your analysis videos.
@Vis117 Ай бұрын
Love this testing. Makes me interested in getting a v cache cpu on my next build for longevity and 1% lows.
@nialloftara5909 Ай бұрын
I was running a 5600 X paired with an RX6950XT for a while and for single player titles in 1440P it was usually almost maxing out the GPU, wasn't quite getting a 100% in all loads but it wouldn't dip much below 80% usage. Still a very strong processor, I did upgrade to the 5800X3D and that has definitely been an improvement in some games and just keeping that GPU usage maxed out especially, when I started doing some raytracing the extra cores and extra capacity of the 5800X3D did stand out. I definitely was still having a great gaming experience with the 5600x at 1440P with a then high-end now upper mid-range GPU.
@Maddsyz27 Ай бұрын
your gpu will always max out unless you set a fps limit. Set it to your monitos refresh rate if it can handle it and then your gpu will not max out all the time.
@bal7ha2ar Ай бұрын
@@Maddsyz27 uh no? your gpu can only render as many frames as the cpu provides it. if the cpu is too slow the gpu wont hit 100% usage.
@rustler08 Ай бұрын
@@Maddsyz27 LMAO, no it won't. If you have a CPU bottleneck you're going to be stuck seeing your GPU below 99% utilization
@andersjjensen Ай бұрын
@@Maddsyz27 Steve JUST spelled it out so clearly that even the slow-pokes on the back row can see it... and yet here we are with you spouting nonsense because you don't pay attention.
@WaltDEM Ай бұрын
I currently have a 5600 + 6900 XT also playing single player games, great experience so far at around 90%+ usage, sometimes it drops to 80%+ too, not upgrading for now, maybe later to a 8800X3d or something far down the line
@patrickmiskell1301 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! I'm running a 5600x with a rx6800 on a 144hrz 2k Ultrawide monitor, and for the most part i am GPU bound in the plethora of games i play. Upgrading on this platform doesn't make much sense when the cost could be put into a platform upgrade. this video is super helpful and I'm sure i could see some uptick in performance with a gpu upgrade for the few games I'm not able to max out my fps on, but not enough to make it worthwhile for my use case.... but if i had a higher refresh rate monitor and more into competitive games it could be a huge upgrade getting a better CPU and GPU combo.
@jadedrivers6794 Ай бұрын
Interesting topic, thank you for investigating Steve!
@leotide1990 Ай бұрын
You might describe it as, “what performance to expect when upgrading your GPU before your CPU platform”
@jopppsss Ай бұрын
I have a 5600, just sold my RX5600XT today. Planning to upgrade to atleast RX6800. Thanks for this video!
@Pikkoroo Ай бұрын
Nice choice
@jopppsss Ай бұрын
@@Pikkoroo got the sapphire rx6800 yesterday and playing with uv oc and fancruve today!
@jacqu35 Ай бұрын
Love your work! The CS2 benchmarks are super helpful as judging where the bottleneck will be is very difficult + frequent updates keep changing performance. Would you consider adding another test pass with 'competitive settings' in the future? Such as 1280 x 960 with everything low except shadows?
@BigHeadClan Ай бұрын
Thanks for the extra round of testing HWboxed team was debating if it really made sense to upgrade the 5600 I have to a 5800x3d for 1440p gaming before the parts are discontinued. I think this video sealed the deal for me.
@shahrukhwolfmann6824 Ай бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH, Steve! Great content!
@fransjoyo5246 Ай бұрын
Title : How slow is the Ryzen 5600 Me still gaming on a FX : 👁️👄👁️ Edit : oh wow the responses 🤣. For anyone wondering why I'm still on a FX in 2024, it's because I built that PC in 2013. It wasn't bad then, and it's still pretty OK today. I planned to upgrade it to Ryzen in 2021, but high parts price and life problems delayed it until now. It's only now that things have began to calm down that I began to plan for a PC upgrade. 🤣
@dagnisnierlins188 Ай бұрын
Feel for you, not long ago I was on Intel Q6600
@rchgmer863 Ай бұрын
And I am gonna buy a ryzen 5 5500H which is a fucking unknown cpu 😂 its coming in a laptop with an rtx 2050 😂😂 but hey it'll do what I need it to and it comes under my budget so it's all good!
@thomasdorey3296 Ай бұрын
Still rocking a 1055t lol.
@Eleganttf2 Ай бұрын
@@rchgmer863 ohh yea those very low end of the line budget laptops with the cutdown 3050 (2050) and a more cutdown version of 5600H which is 5500H man! youd better off building a pc than buying that junk "gaming" laptop! 😂
@dutchdykefinger Ай бұрын
@@thomasdorey3296 shout out to Phenom II x6 1055t though, a lovely chip that came at like 230 bucks in 2010 as i remember it and was pretty damn powerful if you knew hot to multitask, ran it as my main axe for ~5 years i think :D i had one an asus board that could bus clock like a monster (since that cpu model was muliplier locked) and could run all 6 cores from 2.80 -> 3.85 ghz, on a big ass 140 mm tower air cooler, even though i had to thread into danger zones of cranking the PCIe clock to 108% orso, as there were only so many steps you could choose as a divider without totally making the ram speed suffer, shit still had northbridges back then and there was a bit more interlocking lol that's when overclocking still mattered a bit lol i still have it sitting in a board somewhere in a shelf as a relic :D
@Splarkszter Ай бұрын
The best tool is what you have and what you can afford. Yes, it is enough.
@Jakiyyyyy Ай бұрын
Yes
@VideosVlogsThatsIt Ай бұрын
Yes, people are just trying to find excuses to be irresponsible financially
@Dominus_Potatus Ай бұрын
oh yes, definitely XD That's why I really am happy with AM4 platform, I can make "installment" by buying Ryzen 5 then proceed to cheap Ryzen 7 in the future.
@ventilate4267 Ай бұрын
@@VideosVlogsThatsIt Found a writeup I did on a previous video, on why it can matter when building a new system. or upgrading an old one. (this data is really hard to come by) Do you think you guys could do CPU+GPU bottleneck testing comparisons for a set budget? Let's say you're building a PC $1500 USD if I get a i3 13400, and a 4070Ti would I be better off than if I got a 14600k and I 4060 for example. Or, if I had an older PC how far could I spend on a GPU before I upgrade my CPU? All normal benchmarks separate this aspect for proper testing. But in the real world the limit is usually the budget. So seeing how low you can go on the CPU before you run into issues would be interesting. I'd guess the main issues would show up at 1080p. I think you technically did a video like this before (3600 + 3080), but an update would be nice. Hardware Canucks also did a video like this. If I explained what I meant horribly it was called "4090 trashes older ryzen cpus" I guess the easiest way to test would be to just run the all CPUs with different priced GPUs that way the data can be universal for anyone's budget. Would certainly be an insane amount of work though.
@RohanSanjith Ай бұрын
I'm very rich, not a problem for me
@ajemison3 Ай бұрын
Cool to see. I helped a friend get parts for a pc including this CPU about 2 years ago now and he has not put them together yet.
@Tehzii Ай бұрын
Love these comparisons. Thanks Steve
@laloajuria4678 Ай бұрын
6750xt + 5600 on an OG b350 motherboard from like 2017......its amazing.
@tollph3314 Ай бұрын
1080p or 1440p monitor ?
@laloajuria4678 Ай бұрын
Original build was a R5 1600
@sosnihuica2k10 Ай бұрын
@@laloajuria4678 cheap am4 platform from 2017 is still rocks with zen3, meanwhile expensive z170 from intel were already dead back in 2020
@half.blood07 Ай бұрын
I have 5600x + 6650xt on a b550, I get 60fps+ for all the games I play on 1440p. I use FSR on all of the games except the FPS games.
@Rock_Wilson Ай бұрын
You still got one upgrade left before you max out the am4 skill tree. 5800x3d
@Superdazzu2 Ай бұрын
currently on a ryzen 5600 rtx 4070 super build at 1440p, cpu bottleneck can be seen sometimes but nothing atrocious, expecially when i paid 120 euros for that cpu lol, looking to upgrade to new ryzens, which should have huge IPC increases
@dagnisnierlins188 Ай бұрын
Might as well get 5800x3d if not planning to upgrade gpu.
@hackintosh3899 Ай бұрын
Just throw a 5800X3D in there. It's more than fine for a 4070 Super, it's super efficient as far as power/heat and you should have a good pairing for the rest of this console gen including the PS5 Pro refresh. Wait until the next gen console tech to invest in a whole new platform, water cooling imo.
@stangamer1151 Ай бұрын
Been using 5600 + 4070 Ti combo for a year. I tuned RAM (3800MHz/CL16 + tightened subtimings). That way 5600 rarely becomes bottleneck for this card at 1440p. It can provide 60+ fps in all modern games, except few seriously unoptimzed ones, like Hogwarts Legacy, SWJS and of course DD2. But, since even 5800X3D can not offer 60+ fps experience in these games, I am not going to upgrade 5600 until the release of Zen 5 and new Intel CPUs.
@Superdazzu2 Ай бұрын
Hmmm nah, i would like to shift to AM5 for futureproofing@@dagnisnierlins188
@hristobotev9726 Ай бұрын
Perfect combination - 5600 just have some minor bottleneck in 1440p, at 4k 5600 can even feed 4070tis. For better GPU u need AM5. And the review is more than perfect for CPU buying guide. IF U use card slower than 4080/7900xtx 7800x3d not needed. 7700 for $250 will do the job without bottleneck till 4070tis/7900xt
@SPG25 Ай бұрын
Any day i see a new hardware unboxed video up is a good day
@KimBoKastekniv47 Ай бұрын
These hardware combo videos are really interesting!
@user-fv5vi3jz2n Ай бұрын
This is really interesting content, thank you.
@user-fv5vi3jz2n Ай бұрын
Btw- since literally everyone asked, I run 5800x3d w/ 6900xt and 3200 cl18? 32gb ram, m2 nvme etc.
@83Bongo Ай бұрын
Is driver overhead still a thing on low end CPU's when comparing AMD and Nvidia? If so, it Would be interesting comparing the rtx4080 to the 7900xtx on a CPU like the ryzen5600.
@fullmetalt-shirt8355 Ай бұрын
I can't tell you how much I appreciate this particular video. Just cutting through all of the technical stuff and saying which GPU's are best suited for this CPU really helps me and I hope you guys do it more often. Thank you!
@ionamygdalon2263 Ай бұрын
Very, very interesting benchmark! Well done Steve 👍👍
@rozsapeter4577 Ай бұрын
I have a 5600 paired with an rx 6800. I play in 4k. I would say it's a quite balanced config. I think i will switch to AM5 in the future instead of upgrading my cpu to a 5800x3d.
@ericsonbernabe7987 Ай бұрын
same there is also another 5700x3d which is available, same route going right now
@RaykingSamurai Ай бұрын
How is it? I have the 6800xt for my son and I'm planning on getting the 5600 for him to pair it with that card cuz he has a ryzen 5 2600 at the moment but he is playing Elden ring and I want to know if the 5600 with the rx 6800xt can keep up for a couple more year for him with the upcoming games.
@rozsapeter4577 Ай бұрын
@@RaykingSamurai I think it would be okay for the 6800 xt for most of the time. You would feel a nice perf bump from the 2600. I switched from a 2700 and its' quite a bit faster even at 4k due to the Smart Access Memory support which the 2000 series doesn't support. Just don't forget to turn it on when you instell the new CPU.
@RaykingSamurai Ай бұрын
@@rozsapeter4577 thanks
@rozsapeter4577 Ай бұрын
@@ericsonbernabe7987 I always buy a new vga when i can double the performance for a reasonable price and for that card i think even a 5800x3d wouldn't be enough. Thats my logic. I was a little overboard now because i switched from a gtx 1060 6gb and in 4k the 6800 can pump out about 4-5 times more fps depending on the game. E:G. in FH5 4k extreme i went from 16 to 70 fps.
@attilahajbel6401 Ай бұрын
I would’ve liked 5800x3d to be included. Good review, but I think most of the 5600 users are looking for a 5800x3d upgrade. Also fsr/performance review, bc most of the times 1440 gets more relevant when upscaling kicks in.
@Hardwareunboxed Ай бұрын
I've already made the 5600 to 5800X3D upgrade video.
@attilahajbel6401 Ай бұрын
@@Hardwareunboxed Yeah, but it would be nice to see if it’s worth upgrading to AM5 now for the newer games. I really appreciate your work, don’t get me wrong.
@Hardwareunboxed Ай бұрын
@@attilahajbel6401 this video is just a month old :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbJppbN_uNu0c3U.html
@attilahajbel6401 Ай бұрын
But this is 5600 X3D
@gamingunboxed5130 Ай бұрын
@@attilahajbel6401 what do you mean?
@shatter89 Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for your works guys.
@EdDale44135 Ай бұрын
Thanks! Awesome data for those of us living on AM 4
@V4zz33 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this one, it was great! I'm Running the 5600 with a 7900XTX Red Devil in 4K 60-120fps.
@usbsol Ай бұрын
Me too, 5600x, 7900 xtx red devil in 3440x1440, am pretty happy about it 🤗
@cyberlogic3102 Ай бұрын
Steve, please be my father.
@Randtiktok Ай бұрын
LMAO
@themightylordofgoblins6880 Ай бұрын
🤨🤨🤨📸📸📸
@Splarkszter Ай бұрын
x2
@alangeorge5592 Ай бұрын
Fatherless behaviour!!!
@turtlechris2 Ай бұрын
wait what?
@gxmcdg Ай бұрын
Could have included the 5xxx x3d aswell, we would have a easy to check tool in order to see if its worth to do a CPU only upgrade in the current rig or just wait more to make a full system upgrade.
@amineBoucherit Ай бұрын
thank you Steve I was one of the people who asked for this keep it up
@Alexandra-Rex Ай бұрын
This is a great test. It would have been very interesting with the 5700X3D or 5800X3D in there as well.
@saricubra2867 Ай бұрын
5800X3D is aproximately an i7-12700K or i5-13600K.
@zagloba1987 Ай бұрын
Ok so I paired my 5600X with 6950 xt and I use a 4K 144 hz monitor. Was thinking about swapping out the CPU. But that test shows that in my case it would be throwing money to the trash. Thanks Steve!
@JBrinx18 Ай бұрын
I upgraded to an X3D with that gpu, and I did notice quite a difference in some titles. 4k, 1800p not so much, but definitely for 1080p/1440p
@tollph3314 Ай бұрын
if u can spare for 3d chips like 5700x3d or 5800x3d it would be improvement but at 4k maybe not Worth for you
@zagloba1987 Ай бұрын
@@tollph3314 I think I will wait it out for new generation of AM5 chips and than just swap out the whole platform. I dont feel like investing into AM4.
@vigilant_1934 Ай бұрын
You can get away with it but selling the 5600X for a 5700X3D or 5800X3D also wouldn't be a bad idea. It depends what games you play though.
@zagloba1987 Ай бұрын
@@vigilant_1934 AAA like Cyberpunk and RDR2 and from the esport titles only League of Legends. In 4K I am always GPU restricted in AAA and League works on the 144 fps locked with the system not even noticing that something is beeing rendered ;)
@twisted-t Ай бұрын
Omg yes!!! This is the type of video I've been waiting for!
@hamzafifty7 Ай бұрын
amazing video u guys are the best!!
@hot_valcano Ай бұрын
I have a 5600x and I actually was gonna get a 4080 super but none that were in stock would fit in my case so I got the 4070 ti super
@Monsux Ай бұрын
Someone with 5800x3D + RTX 4080 Super and playing on a 4k 120 Hz + 1440p ultrawide 175 Hz (both OLED). There's little to no need to upgrade the CPU. Maybe when upgrading the monitor, but then I would wait for the next gen AMD 3DX CPU.
@Duffer3D Ай бұрын
I have exactly the same baby Groot on my desk :D :D :D Great content as usual, btw. Kudos!
@LeadNarrator Ай бұрын
Nice video, Steve. Could you do the same with the 5950x? Some of us that deal with productivity also play games and it would be interesting to see how it stacks up at this time.
@vator_rs Ай бұрын
Goated CPU. I am still running 1600x, probably gonna get 5600 or 5700x at some point. God bless AM4
@ipatates Ай бұрын
When I first built my PC I got a Ryzen 3 1200 to upgrade it later and went with 3600 and now waiting for a discount on 5800X3D to upgrade on the same X370 motherboard. AM4 is perfection.
@gabrielmccray3457 Ай бұрын
I understand the love. I went from 1600x to 5600x and I love it. But at this point for upgradeability for you, I'd go to am5. For cheaper upgrading later.
@gogaming5449 Ай бұрын
r7 5700x3d if u gaming is pretty nice , very easy to cool , and dont need high end mobo :D
@Deathscythe91 Ай бұрын
get a 5700x3d or a 5800x3d , the fps increase is mind blowing and way more worth it
@somedude96 Ай бұрын
better go for the x3d cpus
@allofyourdreams Ай бұрын
So what you are saying is R5 5600 is amazing budget 4k CPU?? :)
@mingyi456 Ай бұрын
If you are trying to game at 4k, you are not going to get far with a "budget" gpu. Any gpu capable of running 4k comfortably will blow up the total system cost so much that it does not make much sense to talk about a budget 4k gaming system anyway, so might as well spend a bit extra on the cpu as well.
@jonnybowdenfitness9558 Ай бұрын
@@mingyi456 you say that, but I built a system with a 5600 and a 4080. Seems crazy to most people but saving the money on CPU and going with AM4 meant that I could put a decent bit more money into the GPU which was more important to me aiming for 4k60. So far it's done great, I can crank all settings to max and get a solid 60fps on pretty much every game outside cyberpunk.
@a-animal1206 Ай бұрын
I do 4k 60 on my 4070ti in basically every game at high settings with some drops since I'm using a older CPU @@jonnybowdenfitness9558
@mingyi456 Ай бұрын
@@jonnybowdenfitness9558 I did not mean that pairing a 5600 (or any other budget/value cpu) with a powerful gpu is crazy by any means, just that it does not really make sense to call any 4k capable system "budget". So in your example, the 4080 costs 1k usd and I shall assume you needed to spend at least 300 usd for the cpu, motherboard and rest of the system, and so the total system cost is not exactly "budget" after all, unless you somehow scored a deal on the 4080 (I consider
@jonnybowdenfitness9558 Ай бұрын
@@mingyi456 ah yeah I get it and agree, no way a 1k+ system can be considered "budget". I was thinking more of doing 4k on as little budget as possible!
@Alex19870217 Ай бұрын
Guys alway you make awesomo comparison! Thanks!
@Keyosu Ай бұрын
This was the perfect vid to share for budget builders on the fence between am4/5
@mercurio822 Ай бұрын
It shows how bad nvidias overhead is. Radeon cards dont have this problem to the same degree.
@Jakiyyyyy Ай бұрын
What does driver overhead means?
@AKK5I Ай бұрын
@@Jakiyyyyyit means the CPU is being used more with a Nvidia gpu vs an AMD one. Which means you might get less FPS in a game if you're being CPU bottlenecked
@stardomplays1386 Ай бұрын
@@AKK5I"CPU being used more". It doesnt really sound like you actually understand the technical reasoning for this because a CPU being more utilized translates to higher thread usage which translates to higher performance. Please give a better explanation.
@Pasi123 Ай бұрын
@@stardomplays1386 He meant the GPU drivers use the CPU more, that leaves less CPU performance for the game. As in the CPU has to do more work to achieve the same result. And if there isn't enough CPU headroom it will result in lower performance
@83Bongo Ай бұрын
@@stardomplays1386 Don't quote me on this. But i think it's something like, the frame scheduling is done on the GPU with AMD GPU's, and on the CPU with nvidia GPU's. This puts extra load on the CPU which in turn reduces performance if you're already CPU bottlenecked.
@skbenergy Ай бұрын
Am still running a Ryzen 5 3600 lol
@dadgamer6717 Ай бұрын
very useful video. thanks!
@jov415 Ай бұрын
Is the reduction core count, IPC, or clock speed driven? I would love to see the 5900x and/or 5800x3d vs the 7 series.
@clem9808 Ай бұрын
My system is 5600 rtx 4070 , and I only game at 4k, to get rid of cpu+ram(2400mhz)+pcie3(b450m) bottlenecks , and with the help of dlss it reduces the vram consumption by 2-3gb vram for almost the same quality as native. 👍 Currently playing forbidden west at 4k hdr max + dlss balanced ,52 fps locked. 👌
@ajibsaladka Ай бұрын
You know that you are rendering at 1080p and not 4k. So there is still bottleneck.
@thegreathadoken6808 Ай бұрын
Have you considered running at 1800p DLSS, just to get it above the 60? Or even 2040p or 1920p? I realise you're probably running in G-Sync, but still...
@clem9808 Ай бұрын
@@thegreathadoken6808 It's pointless to get it above 60 fps in single player games. I've always locked the fps to save power, and avoid instability , and 1440p native is just too soft for my liking. In competitive games ,sure I'd use 1080p medium like cs2, and dota 2 but not single player titles.
@clem9808 Ай бұрын
@@ajibsaladka so far I haven't had any. Except cyberpunk but it can be fixed by enabling FG.
@bcsr4ever Ай бұрын
My prediction. It's fine.
@silvio3d Ай бұрын
in benchmark at 1080p is not fine
@formulaic78 Ай бұрын
Only at 4K and not with RT seems to be the answer. But still a decent chip for a midrange system.
@LuizFernando-li1du Ай бұрын
@@silvio3dSeems to be good enough for 60 FPS in most cases.
@RustyChickn Ай бұрын
Does the nvidia driver overhead have a large effect on the data gathered?
@philhabib4434 Ай бұрын
Ive been thinking about this very subject, 5800x and 3080 12G, been trying to decide what to uograde first when i have the funds. Might just do a new platform first. As usual, thank you for the informative video!
@tollph3314 Ай бұрын
I would just get gpu and play at higher res
@TheBeastsHere Ай бұрын
How are the Ryzen 3000 series holding up? would be an interesting video from the 3200g up until the 3900/3950x with a 4070 super
@tilapiadave3234 Ай бұрын
Saw one last week in a antiques shop
@PC_Ringo Ай бұрын
Just turfed my 5600 for a 5700x3d... Will be watching with bated breath to see if my decision was a bad one! 😂
@fleurdewin7958 Ай бұрын
I did replaced my 3700X with a 5700X3D . It cost 3/4 the price of a 5800X3D in my country , so its a no brainer to go with a 5700X3D for me.
@Severyn123 Ай бұрын
I plan to do the same upgrade. Whats your experience so far? And what resolution are you playing at?
@PC_Ringo Ай бұрын
@@Severyn123 it depends. For CS2 I play 4:3 stretch @960p and get about 350+ fps. This is about 2x improvement over the 5600. But for GPU intensive gaming at 1440p it depends on the game. I'm also playing Call of the Wild: The Angler and whilst there are more GPU bound games, at 1440p ultra I'm getting between 80-100fps or thereabouts. Thing is, the 1% lows are about 70-80fps as well... So the experience feels smoother compared to the 5600. I'm not sure if that is real or just copium... Either way I'm very happy with the purchase. GPU is a 6800 non-XT for the record...
@roki977 Ай бұрын
I did the same with 5800x3d bcs i have 240hz screen and gains are obvious and quite big..
@Severyn123 Ай бұрын
@@PC_Ringo thank you for sharing your experience! I have a similar setup (1440p with 7800xt) and play multiplayer and single player games so I probably need to see myself which games will benefit the most. I agree that the strongest impact will be on the 1% lows!
@EastyyBlogspot Ай бұрын
Hoping u can do a cpu benchmarks to show upgrade paths from 8700k era cpus to modern ones
@Blafard666 Ай бұрын
Yes, we do appreciate this kind of content Steve
@Reknilador Ай бұрын
I bought the 5600x a month after its release in 2020, I'm still holding onto it. I think for my use case it's fine, I've got it paired with a 3060 ti, I'm guessing there's no bottleneck up until the rtx 3080/4070, which is still fine, I game at 1080p still. It wasn't cheap back on release in my country, but I feel like it's aging better than my previous i5 4690k that I've had from late 2015 until 2020, as soon as Ryzen came out, 4c/4t processors were on their way out.
@juveboy01033 Ай бұрын
Why you paid more for -15fps and stutter?
@jeffdev7947 Ай бұрын
5600x is pretty solid, curious how this stacks up
@Deathscythe91 Ай бұрын
at maximum 10% better?...... its not like from 5600 to 5600x is going to be a whole different world of fps LOL
@Takashita_Sukakoki Ай бұрын
the cpus are practically identical
@1_2_die2 Ай бұрын
5600X is ~4% higher clocked then a 5600, so you may see somehow 2-3% better FPS. Or you easily overclock the 5600 to the clock of an X. There is no surprise hidden in that story.
@Blaczek297 Ай бұрын
5600x is actually the same as 5600, only +200MHz higher clocks on base and turbo boost
@LeoMajor1 Ай бұрын
OH yeah well if u overclock ur 5600 to my 5600x ill underclock my 5600x to your..... wait a minute @@1_2_die2
@KanokYT Ай бұрын
Still trucking on an R5 2600, but I've been wanting to upgrade for a while now. Might look into this or an X3D CPU. Not sure yet since I don't do AAA gaming, but I still want good performance for anything I do run. Thanks for the benchmarks!
@tollph3314 Ай бұрын
3d chips are worth it if u can get them at good price
@eventhorizon9598 Ай бұрын
How do you calculate the game average fps? Do you just add up 8 fps numbers and divide by 8 or do you average the relative fps ratio?
@abhishek_k7 Ай бұрын
terrified that within a few months there will be a "How Slow Is The Ryzen 7 5700X For 2024 Gaming?" and my 5700X wont be fast enough 😢
@toad7395 Ай бұрын
The 5700x/5800x have the same performance in gaming as the 5600. Cores dont matter that much in gaming. That being said just play in 1440p/4K and your GPU will be 100% utilized no matter what even if you have a 5600, hell even if you had a 3600 it would probably even be fine
@Daniel-or3vf Ай бұрын
It will be fine imo. I have one too and don't intend to upgrade for years.
@samarkand1585 Ай бұрын
It all depends on what you match it with and what you expect?
@ScrayaZ Ай бұрын
@@toad7395 the 5800x will perform slightly better due to higher clock and more l2 cache, even if its only like 5%
@jurgengalke8127 Ай бұрын
I have a 5700x with rx 6800 and the performance irl is about the same as my 7600+7800xt playing games not looking at numbers only reason i didnt go 7800x3d as seen in this video at 7800xt level of gfx there is really no difference (also think its too late in zen4 cycle to not wait for the zen5 x3d's
@CS_Mango Ай бұрын
I ran a 5500 with a 7800xt. Can easily do 80 fps in cyberpunk at 1440p. People kept telling me how much I bottleneck my PC without having any clue what I play or do with my PC.
@shubhamkumar8596 Ай бұрын
Does 5600 with 7800 xt on b450 motherboard bottleneck at 1440p resolution??
@Audiosan79 Ай бұрын
At what settings do you get 80fps in cyberpunk? I run cyberpunk at around 170fps average in 1440 with high settings on my 7800X3D and 7900XTX. The 7900XTX is far from 100% faster than the 7800XT.
@band0lero Ай бұрын
@@Audiosan79he’s likely CPU limited
@Jakiyyyyy Ай бұрын
Of course everything depends on what games you play because we don't play your games and you don't play our games!
@CS_Mango Ай бұрын
@@Audiosan79 iirc I play(ed) at max settings with rt on except for lighting. I used xess as well. The 5500 can easily do 120fps but only inside of buildings and with rt off and no upscaling. Outside on the street it falls back to 80fps.
@philliprokkas195 Ай бұрын
This is a pretty good video to get an idea about my 9700k paired with my similarly performing 7900 xt 😎
@unclecalifornia2576 Ай бұрын
This was perfect and exactly my kit: 3070 and R 5 5600. Super thanks for all the work!
@maverickvgc4220 Ай бұрын
I think that the 7600 + 4080 and 5700X3D + 4080 combos are some pretty important missing data. I get the reason behind 7600 + 4070ti and 7800X3D + 4070 but IMO "the sensible AM5 option" and "what can a CPU upgrade do over the 5600" are way more relevant.
@Howlsowls Ай бұрын
Absolutely, I am 100% satisfied with the 5600, but I would upgrade to a 5700x3d or 5800x3d for a smoother experience
@onedriftyboy Ай бұрын
@@Howlsowlssame here. I got the 5600x so cheap, that it allowed me to budget a 4080 into my setup. Getting a tier better GPU is far more noticeable on high resolution gaming, than getting the better CPU. I don’t experience major bottlenecks on 3440x1440p, but I’ve been eying the 5700x3d to extend my AM4 life.
@Howlsowls Ай бұрын
@@onedriftyboy i guess it would be the way to go having a 4080, but I dont think am4 is gonna live a lot longer since the next gen is gonna beat ryzen 7000 by 40%. I think ill wait a few years to make the shift tho
@HenryDailyLife Ай бұрын
R5 5600 is not slow for gaming to be honestXD And using 4080 for 1080p gaming is a waste for the 4080 XD Anyway, good review
@thegreathadoken6808 Ай бұрын
Well it depends whether you want massive refresh rates or not. I certainly prefer 120fps or better. God knows, if I had a monitor capable of 360fps, I might prefer that too.
@BigOuterHeaven Ай бұрын
First of all, for a gaming computer it is better to have the most powerful video card that you can afford. Simply because replacing the processor with a more powerful one will cost much less than having a top processor, but the video card will be of an average or even low level. In addition, video cards become obsolete much faster than processors. So the 4080 paired with the 5600 is quite an adequate build. Simply because it will be possible to upgrade the processor to 5700X3D/5800X3D.
@Spentalei Ай бұрын
@@BigOuterHeavenIt's a lot more nuanced than that. Being processor bottlenecked typically means you're going to "enjoy" some nasty stutters and 1% lows. It's better to be GPU bottlenecked for a bit so you can tweak the settings and/or lower the settings. But obviously this really depends on your situation (fps, budget, resolution, games, etc.)
@terliccc Ай бұрын
amazing video i own a 5600x with a 1080p card and i was wondering how much can i upgrade within am4 it would be amazing to have a video comparing if its worth to upgrade to am5 with a better cpu to support a better gpu or i can just keep am4 and upgrade within am4 my bet is bottleneck is getting worst everyday
@Techytechyy Ай бұрын
Loving this content, exactly what I was curious about. I upgraded to a 7900XT last year because I needed/wanted a 4K 144hz screen for office work and it doubles as my gaming monitor. I mostly play single player (think Control, Cyberpunk, Avatar, etc.). I was still rocking a 5600G CPU, and decided not to upgrade it, because I didn't expect to gain that much at 4K. Seems that was pretty on point for most games, and things have been running really well at 4k. Will probably upgrade to a new X3D Ryzen in January 2025, mostly for more stable 1% lows and some competitive FPS play, where it does make a bigger difference.
@tpf92 Ай бұрын
Wouldn't it have made more sense to also include a 7900XTX because of AMD being less CPU limiting?
@Hardwareunboxed Ай бұрын
Not really, it would have just complicated the results for no real benefit.
@samarkand1585 Ай бұрын
I have a 7900xt paired with a 5600x, and in 1440p I see slight CPU bottlenecks in most games I play still
@marcos1669 Ай бұрын
This shows how important the CPU is, people often put too little CPU with too much GPU
@glordium1951 Ай бұрын
i find it kinda bs that he put a 4080 with it.. most people get that cpu with 60/70 class cards or below
@luiss637 Ай бұрын
@@glordium1951So the test is cpu limited and not gpu
@InnuendoXP Ай бұрын
Eh sure, but often 60fps is just fine for people too for games designed around lower framerates anyway. The 5600 will more or less do everything the consoles can with a 60fps limit (usually more as its single thread performance is much stronger). In competitive titles its average is comfortably 120+, that's plenty for most people. Also consider the CPU + platform cost for the 5600 is a small fraction what a 7800X3D will set you back, it's a lot more than 50% more money for 50% more performance. Personally, I don't find it worthwhile for me to upgrade my CPU unless it can comfortably do double what the consoles can for a reasonable price. Eg. If GTA VI is designed for a 30FPS limit on the consoles maxing out the 3700(non-X equivalent) CPU for all it's worth, then you won't be able to make a steady 60FPS happen with anything less than the absolute fastest PC CPU right now, and it's not that important to me.
@marcos1669 Ай бұрын
@@InnuendoXP that is also why is important to have a good CPU from the start, because changing the CPU is often more costly and difficult than just swap your GPU
@h1tzzYT Ай бұрын
nah, these tests are also very heavily oriented towards cpu bound scenarios, i mean 4/5 single player games shown in this vid are notoriously cpu heavy. I mean fair enough i guess, but there are plenty of games which will show very different results, for example robocop, allan wake 2, stray, scorn, cyberpunk liberty city + RT, brother a tale of two sons remake, diablo 4 and so on
@aeropb Ай бұрын
Thanks for listening to the fans and doing this!
@destroyermaul Ай бұрын
Really interesting. Same video with 5800 x to check cores impact would be great ?
@KodaiRyu Ай бұрын
I'm heavy multitasker so i had to go with 5600X (found cheap), already had 3060 ti so i'm probably going to stick with this set for years... xD
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Ай бұрын
Fun fact, 5600 is a more powerful gaming CPU than the 3.85Ghz PS5 pro zen 2 processor. And it's just 100-120$ 😎😎
@eswecto6074 Ай бұрын
Yup, I think PS5 Pro will have same performance as 5700 Zen3..
@quadragoo8484 Ай бұрын
@@eswecto6074no. It's still a zen 2 processor limited by its architecture. Probably around 10% from the base ps5. But ps5 is gpu limited anyway, so a GPU upgraded is needed more than CPU. Plus, compatibility is needed for the same gen console.
@sosnihuica2k10 Ай бұрын
even 3600 is better then ps5 cpu, its like mobile zen2 with cutted l3 cache.
@sosnihuica2k10 Ай бұрын
@@eswecto6074 ps5 pro will have the same cpu but slightly overclocked
@LukewarmEnthusiast Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Would have liked to see the 5800X3D in there to see if a drop-in replacement would be worth it, especially for the games where the 5600 really struggled.
@kumbaj1612 Ай бұрын
thank u for this steve. i got a 5600x and a 3080 ti and i was seeing 50 to 70% utilisation in gpu at 1440p with vsync in alot of games...
@RichardDuncan-ju1xk Ай бұрын
No one plays Starfield.
@divertiti 18 күн бұрын
Weird and wildly wrong comment
@ConkedDonk Ай бұрын
You should have included the 5700X3D and 5800X3D
@nannnanaa Ай бұрын
should be equal to 7600
@Njazmo Ай бұрын
@@nannnanaabut it's still DDR4 vs DDR5. But yeah, they should have included the 5700X3D / 5800X3D.
@blahx9 Ай бұрын
why not include a 5XXX X3D result in the mix? I have no idea how reviewing works ,but the video was just a month ago.
@sora2617 Ай бұрын
Can you do a similar video like this but using the Intel Arc A750 with Ryzen CPU's?
@cal2127 Ай бұрын
alternative title: how bad at optimization have game devs gotten?
@PistigriloXP Ай бұрын
An upgrade to a Ryzen 7 5700X3D would resolve this bottleneck without needing to change all the platform.
@rustler08 Ай бұрын
Thank you, Captain Obvious. Clearly the $250 CPU is going to be much less bottlenecked than the $100 one. What isn't clear to you is that if you're shopping at this level, $125-150 is a huge difference for the overall build. That cost could bring you up 30-50% in performance, and it would be stupid to buy a $250 CPU with a $300 GPU vs buying the $100-120 CPU with the $430-450.
@saricubra2867 Ай бұрын
I literally bought my i7-12700K for 330 and AMD was charging 400 USD for the 5800X3D. The 5700X3D is better perfomance per dollar than a 5800X3D but is still meh. Ryzen 7 5800X must be cheaper than both.
@antoinereese4295 Ай бұрын
I would describe what you're doing as creating pc "performance models" giving people an idea of how categories (ie high end, midrange etc..) of hardware when pair together are likely to perform. I have a overclocked 5700x and struggled to nail down how much GPU was ideal to not overpay since I'm planning on keeping that chip for a while. Settled on a rx7800xt in the end
@anthonyholmes5965 Ай бұрын
It’d be nice to see a comparison with the AM4 3D chips just to see the comparison to the newer chips. Just to get an idea of of your needs to completely upgrade your platform or not.
@ImWateringPSUs Ай бұрын
It’s honestly very hard to actually bottleneck a CPU from the latest 2-3gen for normal gaming workloads in a significant manner😩
@stardomplays1386 Ай бұрын
False!
@theanimerapper6351 Ай бұрын
This video shows the CPU being bottlenecked hard
@saricubra2867 Ай бұрын
@@theanimerapper6351The Ryzen 5 5600 and 5600X never were fast to begin with, the 5600X had a higher price than a 10700K and the latter did win in 1% lows for some games. It looks like the 5600 and 5600X have very low and inconsistent clocks.
@saricubra2867 Ай бұрын
@@stardomplays1386Zen 3 starts to get fast with the Ryzen 7s, anything below a 5800X is pointless.
@stardomplays1386 Ай бұрын
@@saricubra2867 Zen 3 non 3d cache is horrible. I don't care what anyone says.
@flwrgg Ай бұрын
Im early!
@Pixrl3491 Ай бұрын
Revisit first i9 9900k, I’m still have it and dunno what should I do
@MrAlBester Ай бұрын
These comparisons are extremely helpful and we all greatly appreciate all the work you guys put into your videos Will there be a Patreon Chart with the 5600 paired with each GPU for comparison?
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