Musk simp lel

The best rocket duo of all time! Such capabilities combined.

Starship and SLS complement each other in a wonderful way🚀

I really like this video, and whilst starship is my favorite of the two, SLS will be an awsome sight to see launch. I just really hope Nasa can move away from cost plus contracts, and have boeing build SLS for a fixed price.

Another great video! Well done! I'm glad more people are talking about the importance of both rockets working together. #TeamSpace

Absolutely incredible! Keep up the amazing work!

Great video as always. You make the points better then I ever could. Heres to hoping they make March.

Amazing video!!

David, well constructed video & ALL the salient points. Well done👊🏻

Brilliant good work.

Good and unbiased video David!

Your videos are so good, it is clear that you evaluate both sls and starship objectively.

Good report on how the two systems will work together.

Excellent video! SLS and Starship working together...as it should be

Nice to see your now video

Good video.

Orange rocket good

18:23 haha nice

Wait you're that David Willis guy from Twitter

"These monster rockets are being built for NASA's Artemis Program" No… neither of them are. SLS is expected to be primarily used for that, but it wasn't built for any specific purpose. Starship is being built for Mars, but will also serve as a crewed lander for Artemis. You used the tank burst test to illustrate SLS delays… but that was a success. This is like something Thunderf00t would do, but you're a fan of SLS. I'm so confused!

Let's go!

Big rockets are very cool and this video about big rockets is as cool.

So happy together

it flew!

Who made the Fallen Kingdom song for this video

Small nitpick, 29 Raptor's on booster 4. 20 outer engines and a cluster of 9 in the middle.

update: there not going to land on the moon by Artemis 3, this is due to time line issues with starship

My brother who works for Boeing in St. Louis, Missouri doesn’t think that the Starship isn’t gonna work but I told him that for every mistakes the Starship makes will always be corrected for the next launch 🚀. I’m for the Starship going to the Moon and onward to Mars. My brother says that the Mars missions will be a failure. Yes it’s true that the first people who settled to live on the Mars will probably die but there will always be adjustments to these failures just to make it better next time. Do you agree or not?

Also, once starship on it’s own has landed on the moon. How is it gonna return? If it carries the dragon from the Falcon, then it can’t land payload. And if they are gonna launch another Falcon, that’s one more docking and launch.

Nice work. I learned a lot ;) Regarding the musics (I know, again ;) ) Please, just get ride of the one used from 14:30 (or so) : too much clubby and the volume seams lowder on this one, resulting a distraction. All other tunes are more than ok :D

Nice video! May I suggest a pop-filter for your mic... I think (not very knowledge though) your mic is good enough and it is only the missing pop filter that makes it metallic popping -__- (maybe there is some echo, too... not sure)

I thought this was just another click bait starship video cause of the thumbnail, still a good video tho :)

Giant rockes awsome.

i can't find this anywhere so i'm just gonna ask, will astronauts switch from orion to Starship on moon orbit and then land, to later on get back to orion and return to earth? i'm asking this since NASA removed the gateway from it's "critical path" to the moon, and i don't know what will replace it

SLS is an obscene waste of money. Kept alive to milk the US tax payer. With the arrival of Starship, the SLS program is redundant and obsolete just like keeping your black and white TV next to your flat screen HD TV. Good video, by the way.

WE LIKE THE SLS

i think you got the dev cost bit too high. Elon said that around 10% came from outside, however, keep in mind NASA has not transfered 2.8 Billion to spacex yet. So i dont think they had already spent 28B on this thing

14:34 why do you think spacex won't do private missions with the hls variant? until they have ground infrastructure on the moon, all starship moon landings will be hls variant i think but with hls potentially not needing seperate landing engines, this may be wrong. i don't know

Why doesn't spacex put the habitat on the bottom allowing easier access to the ground and the engines on the top pull rather than push starship also it be best to keep the fins and thermal tiles in case of emergency abort and controlled dive. Starship vs. sls cargo capacity last I checked is nearly 3%mass vs. 2%mass ratios.

Also Nasa is not using SLS for space station construction. they are using the falcon heavy and vulcan centaur for the construction of gateway

If Dearmoon happen in 2023 which Gwynne Shotwell said is planned and still a go. IF it happen would any one think maybe few others would be planned at the same time has moon landing so they can watch it live. What if you had few other star Ship there at landing doing the 3 days to and 3 days there and 3 days back and have other planed over the whole missions . If there are people paying Space x will give them First classes Rid . Any one eles this might happen ?

ARTEMIS I has gotta be one of biggest drones in the history of the world

I fully get the logic behind not canceling SLS, but there is one tiny flaw in your logic I wanted to point out. If something were to go wrong in flight, HLS SS can‘t get back to the surface, but a regular starship with landing legs and heatshield could get back. They would just have to refuel it more to account for the extra dry mass of the heatshield and flaps.

9:12 it's actually 29 engines for Booster 4 lol

How about combining SLS and Starship in a different way by using the Starship Super Heavy booster as a replacement for the SLS core stage and SRBs. This would lower the cost by getting rid of expensive RS-25 engines and SRBs, but leave the Orion capsule with escape system and EUS upper stage for TLI. Northrup Grumman SRBs and Aerojet Rocketdyne RS-25s would lose business, but Boeing and Lockheed would still have major contracts. Some obvious issues would be getting stacked booster to fit in the VLA the building. SpaceX might have to make shorter version of Super Heavy booster just for Orion launches. NASA was looking for proposals to lower SLS costs and this might be a good compromise acceptable to Congress.

Sls is technically the delta v

I'm not sure that Starship really did cost $28bn to develop. If NASA awarded the $2.8bn for Lunar Starship, then Elon may not have been counting that, if he was answering a question about the development of the normal Starship.

I wouldn't really count on Starship for Artemis missions all that much. I wouldn't also count on anything that Musk says when it comes to the development and capabilities of Starship. The SLS, like many other NASA programs may indeed suffer delays and cost overruns but in the end it is safe and effective to operate for the Artemis missions even if it costs significantly more that what Starship would. Besides, SPACEX's Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy are already proven, capable cost-effective vehicles that could support the Artemis program if NASA deemed it necessary.

In reality only political reasons matters, because obviously Orion could be launched with a comercial rocket (but only to the LEO), and attached to a lunar starship all the way to the moon orbit, so you have all abort capabilities and more, because if Orion have a malfunction astronauts can use starship as a lifeboat at least temporarily( like on Apollo 13), are some advantages of traveling with two separate vehicles attached together.

I’m not sure sls will ever be reliable launch vehicle

15:39 that did not age as good as it could have

It's not SLS vs Starship as some people put it. Both rockets work together in harmony to bring humanity further! #SLSgang !

COLS is superior to both SLS and Starship - can replace SLS1/1B by using evolved Falcon/Vulcan derived launch vehicles along with Orion SLS block 2 could be replaced by putting EUS on top of an expendable Starship/reusable Superheavy stack - However if Starship fails, SLS B2 can’t be replaced and will be a good system if we reduce costs with RS25 recovery Starship will be successful commercially if they can get around the technical difficulties - I think will be more like $120M than $8-$20M, which would still make it very appealing and a lunar starship mission would be the same cost as an SLS launch, but for far more capability - 18 crew instead of 6, 50t to surface and back to LEO using Dragon and Dreamchaser crew LEO transport With lunar Starship, it makes sense to use commercial crew LEO transport instead of SLS and Orion - it should be a LEO-Cislunar transport vehicle rather than a lander - could be used for a Mars mission With pressurized volume cut in half - 50t instead of 100t, that nicely cuts refueling launches down by half along with cost - rest can be unpressurized volume for extended duration life support - 10 launches at $120M carrying 90t of prop each

Vumehen

One opportunity is still missed. Gateway. It could be built out of starship hulls, giving it potentially much more internal space and a self-delivery capability. In fact it could be made Skylab-style out of a single starship hull.

Solução economicamente Hipócrita!!!

Been hearing this since 2004. SLS is a joke.

18:14 how anyone can look at that graphic and think that is viable is beyond me. America will not be getting back to the moon this decade with dumb decisions like 'lunar starship'

Develop a lunar commercial crew program and cancel gateway

Please stop using this music. It’s horrible and deafening and ruined an otherwise great video

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