How Sonic Became Smash Bros’ Most Hated Character

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Today I cover the Sonic controversy drama in Smash Bros! How did Sonic go from a beloved newcomer in Brawl, to the most hated character in Smash Bros Ultimate? Let's dive deep into the rabbit hole.
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@HyperFleX77
@HyperFleX77 4 жыл бұрын
imagine how raged sonic haters would be if sonic's "you're too slow" taunt was still in ultimate
@Ephraim225
@Ephraim225 4 жыл бұрын
Why on Earth was that taken out? That hurts almost as bad as losing Waluigi in Mario Kart!
@magiciansapphire9278
@magiciansapphire9278 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ephraim225 Sonic's english voice actor changed since Brawl in his home series and the changed carried over to Smash.
@docplays6508
@docplays6508 4 жыл бұрын
HyperFleX "come on, step it up."
@thirst7827
@thirst7827 4 жыл бұрын
If Sonic's voice from Brawl was still in smash. The situation would've been so much worse.
@Fearsomex23
@Fearsomex23 4 жыл бұрын
I miss taunting in online matches 😩😩😩
@BlooKurby
@BlooKurby 4 жыл бұрын
Smash fans: *hates sonic* Sonic fanbase: "aw shit, here we go again..."
@feefington
@feefington 4 жыл бұрын
It's like hating Star Fox because of Meelee
@DemiAngel75
@DemiAngel75 4 жыл бұрын
I like sonic but nothing about sonic in smash is interesting. He was translated into smash about as poorly as ganon
@mastrsonic375
@mastrsonic375 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@sypenn2502
@sypenn2502 4 жыл бұрын
Can confirm
@aIkaIi
@aIkaIi 4 жыл бұрын
@@DemiAngel75 At least you have references to your character like spin dash and spring. What references does Ganondorf have in his moveset??
@vel_terra
@vel_terra 3 жыл бұрын
The fanbase hates Sonic because he said that sexual harassment is no good.
@bondwiththebroccoli1291
@bondwiththebroccoli1291 3 жыл бұрын
As an eggman main I sexually harass people everyday
@phantomblue2798
@phantomblue2798 3 жыл бұрын
Like about 70% of the most well known smash youtubers.
@sonicspeed3056
@sonicspeed3056 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, a man that understands how his world works.
@magster3997
@magster3997 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@major_fnaffan1016
@major_fnaffan1016 3 жыл бұрын
@@bondwiththebroccoli1291 no wonder sonic hates your guts egghead
@kajbo.
@kajbo. 3 жыл бұрын
The Smash Community: sonic is the most hated ssbu character Clockwork: "ILL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS"
@capirucho5065
@capirucho5065 3 жыл бұрын
B L O W S U P???????
@unity8821
@unity8821 3 жыл бұрын
@@capirucho5065 I'M BETTER THAN YOU I'M BETTER THAN EVERYONE
@simonhanna3679
@simonhanna3679 3 жыл бұрын
Clockwork is a fucking amazing player.
@kajbo.
@kajbo. 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonhanna3679 facts
@dat_dylov_tho
@dat_dylov_tho 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonhanna3679 how about you start watching other "aggressive sonic players" instead of ALWAYS talking about Clockwork, dammit? Sure, he's fun as hell to watch, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHERS? Kevonakasonic, Diamond, Lyco, Shasta, SonicSurge Stuidos, ANGX, Sus XY, Zackori, SonicSam, heck, even me. These dedicated Sonic players N E É D more attention.
@lindermontejo4546
@lindermontejo4546 4 жыл бұрын
The person dressed up as Jigglypuff, hugging Hbox was adorable tbh.
@Kasedezu
@Kasedezu 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@bleachigo990
@bleachigo990 4 жыл бұрын
I was disturbed that jigglypuff was pooping out the lower half of a human body.
@Apocryph0nics
@Apocryph0nics 4 жыл бұрын
So was "don't polise them enough"
@papersonic9941
@papersonic9941 4 жыл бұрын
Hbox needed to be careful the guy didn't fall asleep, though.
@moogobIin
@moogobIin 4 жыл бұрын
bleachigo990 puff doesnt skip leg day.
@joey5745
@joey5745 4 жыл бұрын
So basically everyone has turned into Dr. Robotnink, "I hate that Hedgehog!"
@1thepieman
@1thepieman 4 жыл бұрын
SnooPING AS usual, I see
@rpsyco
@rpsyco 4 жыл бұрын
You know, I've always wondered why Robotnik hated Sonic and his friends so much, but I think I'm starting to understand now.
@nimi_dahav
@nimi_dahav 4 жыл бұрын
"Gah! How did you get here so quickly?!"
@frenquencie
@frenquencie 4 жыл бұрын
That hedgehog is right outside my window!
@bruhmomento.
@bruhmomento. 4 жыл бұрын
I HOG THAT HATE HEDGE
@phoenixpoole7667
@phoenixpoole7667 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic: “Man, they sure mean business! I didn’t do anything wrong, why are they even banning me?” Brawl Meta Knight and every single top tier character ever: “First time?”
@user-sp2jg9rx8r
@user-sp2jg9rx8r 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic: "Yes, first time..."
@RangerTroll
@RangerTroll 4 жыл бұрын
Except Sonic isn't S tier and not anywhere near broken as Metaknight was.
@crabman4069
@crabman4069 4 жыл бұрын
Bayonetta in Smash 4: Pathetic.
@major_fnaffan1016
@major_fnaffan1016 3 жыл бұрын
if they ban sonic from smash bros I will find a way to sue them even though I may be too young
@Ego-Fiend
@Ego-Fiend 3 жыл бұрын
Meta Knight:ha ha i remember my first tourney
@tboneanimatez-fc3we
@tboneanimatez-fc3we 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Eggman: it's all coming together
@jay4gamers1
@jay4gamers1 4 жыл бұрын
Zero : "You can just hear sonic's spin dash in your mind, over and over." My Mind : "Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire,Pk Fire"
@ricosimon1057
@ricosimon1057 4 жыл бұрын
PK fire, More like, PK F%&#ness!. Spin dash that i was use in best time.
@danield8632
@danield8632 4 жыл бұрын
If you watch pro matches, you won't hear it that often. If you watch mkleo vs sonic, every 3 seconds you will hear so much sonic spin dashing, you'd think you were at the dentist.
@jamesisaac3972
@jamesisaac3972 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@SamStraker
@SamStraker 4 жыл бұрын
PK FREEZE!
@AnomalyVoid
@AnomalyVoid 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, watching Ness is insufferable.
@TheDylicious77
@TheDylicious77 4 жыл бұрын
Eggman: YES. Finally you people are starting to get it!
@migscrunch3448
@migscrunch3448 4 жыл бұрын
Dylicious Ness lmao
@cybernurgle6413
@cybernurgle6413 4 жыл бұрын
Yo can we get eggman in smash?
@wookeattan39
@wookeattan39 4 жыл бұрын
@@cybernurgle6413 tbh, Eggman actually has some potential thanks to his Egg Mobile.
@cybernurgle6413
@cybernurgle6413 4 жыл бұрын
@@wookeattan39 also not only more sonic representation but also more villain representation
@TheDuckyDino
@TheDuckyDino 4 жыл бұрын
@@cybernurgle6413 and its not like him being in a machine is a problem, bowser junior exists
@shemp9858
@shemp9858 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I always felt excluded as a Sonic main over the years. Every time I went to locals for Smash 4 and eventually Ultimate, I'd always get greeted with a long sigh, disappointed look, or just ignorance whenever I'd pick Sonic on the screen. I never understood it. It got to me more than it normally would because I was constantly bullied for liking Sonic growing up, which affected my ability to share with people in person.
@HoodedEdge
@HoodedEdge 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic is hated by Smash fans Sonic is hated by the gaming community Sonic is hated by journalists How much more undeserved hate can one blue hedgehog take anymore?
@liamtheyoshi8089
@liamtheyoshi8089 2 жыл бұрын
He's also hated by Eggman, but that's understandable because Eggman's the bad guy and Sonic is saving the world.
@tsunox1279
@tsunox1279 2 жыл бұрын
and Sonic is hated by Sonic Fans. PD: A Sonic Fan
@sansic9387
@sansic9387 2 жыл бұрын
Me, a sonic fan that loves sonic: *slowly raises hand*
@pixelwhatifs371
@pixelwhatifs371 2 жыл бұрын
SOSF, save our sonic fans
@bold3166
@bold3166 2 жыл бұрын
By camping?
@sothis8638
@sothis8638 4 жыл бұрын
Snake did it first! From the Brawl codec conversation: Snake: ''Something about that Hedgehog rubs me the wrong way...'' Otacon: ''But everyone loves Sonic! He's a big star'' Snake: ''There's something about him I just don't like'' This aged well xD
@user-ws2ui7fp4l
@user-ws2ui7fp4l 4 жыл бұрын
Yea XD First bayo now sonic Wow
@MrVectorMV
@MrVectorMV 4 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaamn
@ahmadkazan7994
@ahmadkazan7994 4 жыл бұрын
Even this text is still ripped from brawl.Like all sonic's lines.
@johnnykage4179
@johnnykage4179 4 жыл бұрын
That was a reference to them both being Third Party characters. I thought anyway.
@arval4202
@arval4202 4 жыл бұрын
"That's no good "
@lordbaccoon1821
@lordbaccoon1821 4 жыл бұрын
gave birth to one of the greatest twitch chat chants "Yo did he just spin dash"
@goldengold4335
@goldengold4335 4 жыл бұрын
Bro did he just do a f-air?
@alonzozavala4534
@alonzozavala4534 4 жыл бұрын
Lol moist críticas chat😂
@mee091000
@mee091000 4 жыл бұрын
KiWi x Dylan *NO COPYRIGHT LAW IN THE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO STOP ME!* - _Sonic The Hedgehog_
@Probably_JENOVA
@Probably_JENOVA 4 жыл бұрын
KiWi x Dylan “YO! CAN WE COPYSTRIKE SONIC’S LATEST VIDEO? HE JUST DID A SPIN DASH.”
@Supershadow301
@Supershadow301 4 жыл бұрын
@@Probably_JENOVA Link, Young Link and Toon Link: *_glances away awkwardly as they press the B button_*
@sintia12c
@sintia12c 4 жыл бұрын
I’m laughing so much right now. Their complaining about sonic being too fast. *That’s the whole point of sonic*
@Jet_Genesis720
@Jet_Genesis720 4 жыл бұрын
People being mad at his gimmick
@Skeloperch
@Skeloperch 4 жыл бұрын
It's the whole point of the character, but that doesn't mean you gotta like it. Imagine if they added Gen 1 Dragonite to Smash, and all he did was hold you in place, dealing 2% of damage every second. That's all he did. If he grabbed you, he holds you down for minutes at a time before chucking you off the stage. It would be accurate, way too accurate, to the character's source material, but holy shit people would be *FURIOUS*. Gen 1 Dragonite players would be lynched in the street if they won a tournament, and for good reason.
@sintia12c
@sintia12c 4 жыл бұрын
Maxatrillion so what your saying is that you’d rather have the water downed bootleg version of the characters. Stripping what actually makes them cool just so a character that obviously had no chance of defeating the other character can have a fair fight. That’s very Russian if you
@selassieaspen9940
@selassieaspen9940 4 жыл бұрын
67mph isn't fast for Sonic. In fact he gotten slower in ultimate I THINK.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Parallel Fan Parallel Fan *so what your saying is that you'd rather have the water downed bootleg version of the character* If the character is not fun and makes the game not fun, then yeah, sure, maybe. Or just don't have the character in the game at all. I guess it's a great thing that Dragonite isn't a playable character in the game. *Stripping what actually makes them cool* It doesn't make them cool. That's the problem.
@tccutthroat5961
@tccutthroat5961 4 жыл бұрын
I find it funny people think he’s broken, even tho he’s so light he can be launched at like 30 percent
@ang1480
@ang1480 4 жыл бұрын
if one is dumb enough, that can accidentally launch off screen. K.O.
@Jet_Genesis720
@Jet_Genesis720 4 жыл бұрын
And as a Sonic/Joker main he’s weak to range characters
@Skeloperch
@Skeloperch 4 жыл бұрын
I play mostly slower characters, and I have to wait for Sonic's autism to kill him because I can't do it. I just stand center stage and wait for his brain to malfunction and run into a DORIYAH, because I have 0 other ways of combating the freak.
@tccutthroat5961
@tccutthroat5961 4 жыл бұрын
Maxatrillion I use ganondorf and sonic so I know how to defeat both of them
@selassieaspen9940
@selassieaspen9940 4 жыл бұрын
You can't hit what you can't react too.
@ammoniteg
@ammoniteg 4 жыл бұрын
ZeRo: Sonic is the MOST HATED CHARACTER Yoshi Mains: *Wipes sweat off forehead*
@firebal6129
@firebal6129 4 жыл бұрын
And Olimar mains And Palu mains And G&W mains
@juliomelendez8184
@juliomelendez8184 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you why don’t people ever talk about that shit. Yoshi’s are sooo annoying.
@yayeet4228
@yayeet4228 4 жыл бұрын
Me as a Ness main: *f a i r sigh*
@Hekza0024
@Hekza0024 4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys what do R.O.B players and my dad have in common?
@Hekza0024
@Hekza0024 4 жыл бұрын
Firebal612 Answer: they’re both badass and they get angry for no reason
@impchain
@impchain 4 жыл бұрын
They removed his taunt because his whole character is the "YoU'rE tO SlOw" taunt.
@BlastKetchup
@BlastKetchup 4 жыл бұрын
i really wish they kept in ult tho, just sounds nice to hear :)
@shadow64dd
@shadow64dd 4 жыл бұрын
@@BlastKetchup I would have like to see what roger would have sounded like as well.
@anonymousoff-brand7538
@anonymousoff-brand7538 4 жыл бұрын
referring to his gameplay, or his personality?
@theblackbasketball
@theblackbasketball 4 жыл бұрын
Anonymous Off-Brand Yes
@theblackbasketball
@theblackbasketball 4 жыл бұрын
ً I used to piss off my friends with that
@donkeyisalive00
@donkeyisalive00 4 жыл бұрын
If in the next game they get Roger Craig Smith to record “You’re too slow!” And “C’mon, step it up!” For new taunts, I will be so happy.
@sansic9387
@sansic9387 2 жыл бұрын
Won’t every non-toxic smash fan?
@Shroobi
@Shroobi 4 жыл бұрын
this is heartbreaking for me to see my favourite character from my childhood get so much hate due to a playstyle to the point where he gets banned.
@ramsonbava7627
@ramsonbava7627 4 жыл бұрын
me 2 😰
@Dperezo
@Dperezo 4 жыл бұрын
x3 he is my main because he is from my childhood i doesnt care if he is mid tier or low tier i would keep using it 😭 dont hate sonic its not his fault that
@superdajoka
@superdajoka 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. That's the same for me for banjo, even though I never grew up with him.
@Shroobi
@Shroobi 3 жыл бұрын
@@superdajoka I feel u
@worthybloody5467
@worthybloody5467 3 жыл бұрын
same
@doom3926
@doom3926 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: hates Sonic Sonic fans: What else is new?
@meadowthevirgo4922
@meadowthevirgo4922 4 жыл бұрын
Why did i read that last line in Jason Griffith's voice?
@zvoa1038
@zvoa1038 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@brotherbup7425
@brotherbup7425 4 жыл бұрын
@@meadowthevirgo4922 Yes.
@SuperJoshuaAguilar
@SuperJoshuaAguilar 4 жыл бұрын
~~Sonic fans~~ Furries
@EpicGamer-69
@EpicGamer-69 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperJoshuaAguilar shut up furry
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 4 жыл бұрын
The removal of the “you’re too slow” taunt was the actual worst, no doubt
@globoiitsuna
@globoiitsuna 4 жыл бұрын
Jason Griffith sonic >>>>
@squadsaneslader
@squadsaneslader 4 жыл бұрын
Arya Choudhury YES!!! HE’S FUCKING EVERYWHERE
@edwardrobinson5470
@edwardrobinson5470 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@phantomblue2798
@phantomblue2798 4 жыл бұрын
I agree all the way.
@evanshaner991
@evanshaner991 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest nerf he's ever received
@Sheriff-Woody
@Sheriff-Woody 4 жыл бұрын
these nintendo players hating on my childhood
@horseflyer27272
@horseflyer27272 3 жыл бұрын
Nintendo fanboys
@major_fnaffan1016
@major_fnaffan1016 3 жыл бұрын
AND THEY HATING ON MY DADS CHILDHOOD ME AND MY DAD ARE SONIC FANS >:C
@horseflyer27272
@horseflyer27272 3 жыл бұрын
@@major_fnaffan1016 k
@major_fnaffan1016
@major_fnaffan1016 3 жыл бұрын
@@horseflyer27272 ok *inhales* honestly who gives a FUCK about that nintendo shit?
@horseflyer27272
@horseflyer27272 3 жыл бұрын
@@major_fnaffan1016 nintendo fanboys
@loopcat1234
@loopcat1234 4 жыл бұрын
The smash community has a hated character every year LOL.
@user-sp2jg9rx8r
@user-sp2jg9rx8r 4 жыл бұрын
Because the community is toxic as hell.
@jenniferowens4551
@jenniferowens4551 3 жыл бұрын
SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUUUUP
@constantinekorkousky3363
@constantinekorkousky3363 3 жыл бұрын
It’s min min right now lmao
@googlymoogly3009
@googlymoogly3009 3 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferowens4551 No
@rinn5238
@rinn5238 Жыл бұрын
and now it's steve
@theganondorky7238
@theganondorky7238 4 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate how wholesome that giant jiggly puff and hbox hugging is.
@lezpuff7411
@lezpuff7411 4 жыл бұрын
When did that happen? I'm searching it but I don't find it anywhere
@aldali724
@aldali724 4 жыл бұрын
No.
@lezpuff7411
@lezpuff7411 4 жыл бұрын
@@jtmiller4844 thanks but I was refereing to the set where that happened, it was in Shine 2017 but I don't find the clip or in which set happened
@Clairavoya
@Clairavoya 4 жыл бұрын
yeah that was actually cute, I actually said "aww" when I saw it
@Gio-uu5vg
@Gio-uu5vg 4 жыл бұрын
DriteC34 It was Shine 2017 Hungrybox vs Mew2King, and at the end of the video
@skribble-
@skribble- 4 жыл бұрын
"sonic is the most hated character in smash" bayo mains: "first time?"
@Ruby_Eve
@Ruby_Eve 4 жыл бұрын
What does that mean for Byleth?
@trongtran8951
@trongtran8951 4 жыл бұрын
Meta Knight mains: are you guys counting times?
@Silver_Scepter
@Silver_Scepter 4 жыл бұрын
Meta Knight mains: amateurs
@franktastical7512
@franktastical7512 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChaudTheGamer really? I have fought online a little and don't necessarily dislike their style
@filipe5534
@filipe5534 4 жыл бұрын
Both are SEGA characters lol
@soulless9081
@soulless9081 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Sonic Main (aside from Mii's), and it bothers me when I see people be so passive and cowardly.
@hadrielreis1283
@hadrielreis1283 3 жыл бұрын
WELCOME TO THE SQUAD
@finmin2k
@finmin2k 3 жыл бұрын
that's how sonic is meant to be played tho
@Squeam9750
@Squeam9750 3 жыл бұрын
@@finmin2k kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fceidc581sXLiJs.html You were saying?
@finmin2k
@finmin2k 3 жыл бұрын
@@Squeam9750 not saying he can't be played any other way, just saying it's way more effective if he's played campy.
@mando76m
@mando76m 2 жыл бұрын
But Sonic is literally a bait-and-punish character.
@wolfgangill9717
@wolfgangill9717 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s agree that everyone hated the ice climbers when they had that broken ass grab.
@liamii5603
@liamii5603 4 жыл бұрын
William Benavidez ikr, I learned it just because it pissed me so much
@thatguy7576
@thatguy7576 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone gangster till you fight Sonic and he hits you once and starts timing you out. (Edit) The comments on this are almost as controversial as The smash community
@Chimera144
@Chimera144 4 жыл бұрын
Dead meme
@joxy1514
@joxy1514 4 жыл бұрын
YO DID HE JUST SPINDASH *POG*
@Lazo_trixk
@Lazo_trixk 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chimera144 no one cared
@hustle.headquarters
@hustle.headquarters 4 жыл бұрын
Why he do that?
@thatguy7576
@thatguy7576 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lazo_trixk agreed it just was funny
@dk9431
@dk9431 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even realize that sonic was being hated
@user-ws2ui7fp4l
@user-ws2ui7fp4l 4 жыл бұрын
Bayo:first time
@spuhgetti
@spuhgetti 4 жыл бұрын
Twitter
4 жыл бұрын
@@spuhgetti Although I don't use it a lot, that would surely explain it. 🤣
@meguho7290
@meguho7290 4 жыл бұрын
me too
@corazon5450
@corazon5450 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@gamegirl7183
@gamegirl7183 4 жыл бұрын
Why do I always like the things that people hate? ‘I’m a weirdo....’
@JudahIsTheWarrior8099
@JudahIsTheWarrior8099 4 жыл бұрын
Hey everybody's weird, your talking to a 24 year old who still plays Roblox for one piece games.
@primarinegaming6761
@primarinegaming6761 4 жыл бұрын
JudahTheWarrior lol that’s ok. I’ll probably be playing roblox when I’m older
@DurpyON2263
@DurpyON2263 4 жыл бұрын
You’re not alone
@NameName-yj7lp
@NameName-yj7lp 4 жыл бұрын
Hey it’s ok I’m a child who still can’t talk to people without having an emotional breakdown
@Maxithicc
@Maxithicc 4 жыл бұрын
@@NameName-yj7lp Breakdown Breakdown
@TKOTDtvMusic
@TKOTDtvMusic 4 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious that KZfaq recommends this to me now lmao
@supermike929
@supermike929 4 жыл бұрын
For realll
@Caaarl_
@Caaarl_ 3 жыл бұрын
Rip
@shihoblade
@shihoblade 3 жыл бұрын
He still aint back yet?
@enrikoda
@enrikoda 3 жыл бұрын
he cutting himself off for life I think
@fastpikachu0742
@fastpikachu0742 3 жыл бұрын
For real
@gamerswag69
@gamerswag69 4 жыл бұрын
“Sonic is Smash Ultimate’s most hated character” Hero: You’ll get used to it.
@thunderstar7682
@thunderstar7682 4 жыл бұрын
Wait people hate hero Oh right *RNG is a crappy mechanic*
@Cinko420
@Cinko420 4 жыл бұрын
Thunderstar Yeah, Green Missile and Judge are trash moves. /s
@yosojojodela5480
@yosojojodela5480 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but hero is not a furry 🤷‍♂️
@evicteetori8738
@evicteetori8738 4 жыл бұрын
@@yosojojodela5480 he literally rode 2 animals in his trailer. Pretty sus
@DSmith3279
@DSmith3279 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cinko420 One or two moves with RNG elements is fine. Hero is RNG the character.
@SmartBrain17
@SmartBrain17 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Sonic matches aren’t fun to watch Clockwork Videos: *sad Sonic noises*
@Mngalahad
@Mngalahad 4 жыл бұрын
literally "everyone" says that about like 20% of the characters.
@bradyguy99
@bradyguy99 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe smash isn't fun to watch...
@solvemproblerstudios5889
@solvemproblerstudios5889 4 жыл бұрын
Bradyguy99 Gotta disagree with that idea.
@deanmoriarty6015
@deanmoriarty6015 4 жыл бұрын
this can go for every character, honestly. like, I think ill take watching a Sonic over a Link going for the exact same boomerang, arrow, bomb, nair combo or a Pac-Man running to the side, loading up a projectile, then dropping a hydrant. but honestly that's a problem with Ultimate for rewarding spammy, formulaic gimmicks.
@Orion18
@Orion18 4 жыл бұрын
Love Clockwork lol
@Chronos774
@Chronos774 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic: They see me rolling they hating!🎶
@runningwithscissors8612
@runningwithscissors8612 4 жыл бұрын
How ZeRo became Smash Bros. most hated figure
@supermike929
@supermike929 4 жыл бұрын
This got recommended lmao
@kaptnhoohah2903
@kaptnhoohah2903 3 жыл бұрын
@@supermike929 I just got it recommended this out of no where as well lmao
@supermike929
@supermike929 3 жыл бұрын
Kaptn Hoohah 😂 I love the name and it makes me miss zero even more
@maximoleon3110
@maximoleon3110 3 жыл бұрын
Well this didn't aged well
@frenquencie
@frenquencie 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder
@tk.dozyhollow
@tk.dozyhollow 4 жыл бұрын
So basically the problem is that against a sonic, "you're too slow"
@ironshinobi9384
@ironshinobi9384 4 жыл бұрын
Wish that will come back the salt will be real
@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747
@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 4 жыл бұрын
Zoners:Hello
@dankmemes8479
@dankmemes8479 4 жыл бұрын
I like you
@christophermiller5881
@christophermiller5881 4 жыл бұрын
What an underrated comment
@okey7261
@okey7261 4 жыл бұрын
I get acceleratle with hero against sonic
@akeel0821
@akeel0821 4 жыл бұрын
and I still hear people say “there’s no such thing as online top tiers.”
@nimcie8377
@nimcie8377 4 жыл бұрын
Akeel H. Little mac wouldn’t be bottom tier for that
@notcesar1238
@notcesar1238 4 жыл бұрын
People that hate sonic just suck when going against him
@queenneptune2456
@queenneptune2456 4 жыл бұрын
As we say in the fighting community "get good!"
@mightyboogster5313
@mightyboogster5313 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't lost to a sonic online yet. But I still hate him. It's just a shit character and every time I see that dumbass hedgehog's portrait I just know the game is now a chore and not a fun experience. Oh look he's spin dashing, oh look he tried the exact same combo literally every online sonic main tries like 5 times. Oh look he's holding auto target spin dash. Oh look he's doing spring of the edge. It just isn't fun to play against, like at all. Why should I have to run after a character the whole match while he does like 3% every 30 seconds. This is literally why I switched to snake. No one gets to have fun now, everyone gets to explode. Wanna approach? Boom.
@mastrsonic375
@mastrsonic375 3 жыл бұрын
@Mighty Boogster then What if Sonic got Revamped or Redesigned
@nuhuhhd
@nuhuhhd 3 жыл бұрын
@@mightyboogster5313 well to your moral of your comment: Sonic must be removed, yeah?
@kevinp.a1722
@kevinp.a1722 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta go fast
@bondwiththebroccoli1291
@bondwiththebroccoli1291 3 жыл бұрын
It’s sad to see sonic’s old taunt be removed. It should be added back to piss off people even more
@parkeranderson9977
@parkeranderson9977 4 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: The smash community is still as toxic as ever.
@fork-man
@fork-man 4 жыл бұрын
So toxic they are acidic enough to melt any solid matter
@kishinasura1504
@kishinasura1504 4 жыл бұрын
Well hey, at least at they are not the Melee community. I mean, they are bit still no.
@Silent_Mochi
@Silent_Mochi 4 жыл бұрын
They really are toxic, makes me sad to be a smash bros fan
@kuzeytekinoglu8214
@kuzeytekinoglu8214 4 жыл бұрын
Why even play online if you can't keep up with all the characters am I right? I am a sonic main but this is only from a player perspective.
@archerlangfield8189
@archerlangfield8189 4 жыл бұрын
I cant take smash serious as a fighting game. ill play for fun tho
@extranosense9553
@extranosense9553 4 жыл бұрын
*"How Sonic Became Smash Bros' Most Hated Character"* Me, a Sonic main who hasn't played smash in months:
@cha0s725
@cha0s725 4 жыл бұрын
lmao i feel bad for you
@germex1837
@germex1837 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao in the same boat with ya
@idfkimaclown
@idfkimaclown 4 жыл бұрын
I'm also in the same boat.
@josemarcano5123
@josemarcano5123 4 жыл бұрын
the sonic's titanic, also i'm in the boat too.
@migscrunch3448
@migscrunch3448 4 жыл бұрын
Us sonic mains really are getting backed in the corner
@HyperFleX77
@HyperFleX77 4 жыл бұрын
You know, I’m glad sonic has this relevance in hate; that means he’s too good for everyone and they know it
@ThiagosToons
@ThiagosToons 4 жыл бұрын
Thats no good. Actually more like That's too good
@HyperFleX77
@HyperFleX77 3 жыл бұрын
@@xavierazhar8744 just like every character? It also depends on how someone uses it
@jgxlol5728
@jgxlol5728 3 жыл бұрын
Cause"he is the fastest thing alive
@HyperFleX77
@HyperFleX77 3 жыл бұрын
@Wyatt Cork hell yeah, real sonic mains don't stall
@iiokrammii693
@iiokrammii693 3 жыл бұрын
@@HyperFleX77 agreed, lol. There is absolutely no reason you should be stalling with sonic. He's good enough where you can take out the rest of the opponent's stock if you're good enough at him
@leanygreeny9152
@leanygreeny9152 4 жыл бұрын
I never realized how fast Sonic is. I always dove head first into battle with him, using fair and up smash, and a bit of down b. I never thought someone could get cheap kills with running. But, it saddens me that Sonic doesn't have alot of work put into him
@SoppingTable69
@SoppingTable69 4 жыл бұрын
Byleth: *”First time”* Sonic: no...
@ChillestForm
@ChillestForm 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly fuck byleth
@lif7203
@lif7203 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChillestForm and...why? i thought the byleth hate was gone now
@Nosretep
@Nosretep 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChillestForm What's wrong with him?
@corn4618
@corn4618 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChillestForm why more exactly?
@fork-man
@fork-man 4 жыл бұрын
@@lif7203 well not really a handful of people hate then because how bad they say they are i pick them up and put 8 hours on them and see there is some problems with byleth
@franarteaga6355
@franarteaga6355 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly we should be complaining about the online instead of Sonic being cancer in ultimate's garbage online #FixUltimateOnline
@kalebmorgan4834
@kalebmorgan4834 4 жыл бұрын
Fran Arteaga I completely agree but the camping can be “cancerous” even in person
@angusyoung119
@angusyoung119 4 жыл бұрын
@@kalebmorgan4834 is cancerous*
@kalebmorgan4834
@kalebmorgan4834 4 жыл бұрын
angusyoung119 yeah I’m pretty fucking annoying tbh
@ethanevenson3855
@ethanevenson3855 4 жыл бұрын
You can't patch out latency.
@joshwesker6466
@joshwesker6466 4 жыл бұрын
Fran Arteaga I don’t have to to much problems with characters including sonic as a shiek main I can mix him up throw needles etc. but ness come on every one we all want this bastard out. Ness players play so frivolously it gets me aggravated.
@Lordxzamasu
@Lordxzamasu 4 жыл бұрын
This is why we need shadow maybe he could bring something new to the table
@Swiftlift936
@Swiftlift936 4 жыл бұрын
Up special using air shoes to fly and covers almost as much height as Sonic, down special chaos boost that lasts 30 sec and gets tired for five sec after using it, side special chaos spear, neutral special building up a meter to use chaos blast and regular moves from Sonic Battle, final smash is taking off inhibitor rings, fighting while teleporting and finishes with a roundhouse kick in the back of the head
@Swiftlift936
@Swiftlift936 4 жыл бұрын
Roman Francis he is already in smash as an assist trophy
@marsgo8938
@marsgo8938 4 жыл бұрын
@@Swiftlift936 Shadow would use up all of his stamina if he takes off his inhibitor rings though as they are for stabalizing his power.
@Swiftlift936
@Swiftlift936 4 жыл бұрын
Mars Gravel a final smash is using your strongest move so everyone would be tired if we are adding logic to the game
@ultimatesonic47
@ultimatesonic47 4 жыл бұрын
sonic was always bad designed in smash, because he has a lot of movements in his games that are not included in smash, litteraly the only one included are the ones were sonic is a ball, what about the boost, the axe kick from sonic battle, the light speed attack, the sonic wind, the chaos control, the stomp just saying
@Tokmurok
@Tokmurok 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah ikr
@r3zolv951
@r3zolv951 4 жыл бұрын
Chaos Control as a Counter would be sick
@dohickey7184
@dohickey7184 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't his DAir a stomp?
@kush7138
@kush7138 4 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't be getting as much hate if he wasn't so damn basic.
@darkboy19O7
@darkboy19O7 4 жыл бұрын
Super Smash Bros Crusade, a FAN GAME mind you, got Sonic's moveset down better than the official games ever did
@ArcLines70074
@ArcLines70074 4 жыл бұрын
Ight Instead of a "Sonic is Banned contest" how about I do a "Sonic Only Contest" where you can play as only Sonic and no one else
@kayinstorm
@kayinstorm 4 жыл бұрын
Y E S
@Below_ZeroCD
@Below_ZeroCD 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@marifernanda1290
@marifernanda1290 4 жыл бұрын
I would join :D
@richardsonstudios2807
@richardsonstudios2807 4 жыл бұрын
nO that's dumb
@epicskrub730
@epicskrub730 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest Bren comment.
@juicebox9300
@juicebox9300 4 жыл бұрын
For being the fastest character in video game history, it’s ironic that playing against him can feel like an eternity
@lidofzejar
@lidofzejar 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ws2ui7fp4l You're in every comment defending Sonic lol He's not hated for being fast, he's hated for advocating an uninteractive playstyle. You either are optimally camping for time, or playing for fun. His kits just perfect for playing like a sweaty tryhard.
@Plum1300
@Plum1300 4 жыл бұрын
@@lidofzejar I feel that you shouldn't get hate for how you play If you have a strategy go for it don't lose games for some ignorant people scoffing at you through a screen its the epitome of play lame win games and get good mixed together.
@ahmadkazan7994
@ahmadkazan7994 4 жыл бұрын
@@lidofzejar yeah,how does he need to play?Interactively so yo abuse the end lag of his moves and win?Of course he will play uninteractivly.ait is no way a safe way.
@omnixn7669
@omnixn7669 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahmadkazan7994 thats the point Liddy is making in the first place. If you play interactively, you're "stupid" for not playing optimally to win. And if you camp, you're "stupid" for playing a boring and lame playstyle. Lose lose. Not Sonic's or the player's fault, but nintendo for giving him such a bad moveset, and for not fixing their online which caused this problem in the first place
@lidofzejar
@lidofzejar 4 жыл бұрын
@@Plum1300 You're assuming because people hate the character they hate the players. I can hate the attributes and playstyle a character advocates, while still not bearing ill will to players that understand their playstyle reliance is toxic. The only reason someone would be defensive for what I said is they're projecting, because the only thing close to an insult I used was "sweaty tryhard", which isn't even really an insult.
@prestonwalker9081
@prestonwalker9081 4 жыл бұрын
As a sonic fan I feel like the sonic games people call us crazy toxic and in Smash Bros we’re bullied down to the point no one wants to let us into tournaments
@jeritokirigaya7521
@jeritokirigaya7521 3 жыл бұрын
I dont really think sonic needs to be hated because people just justify sonic because it has no good attacks and thats all but if you master sonics attacks etc you can be almost a god with that speed.
@kahuna2940
@kahuna2940 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why everyone hates Sonic, it’s my favorite fast food place, it’s too bad that more People Want Wendy’s in smash, even though they’d practically be the same character Edit- 1 thanks for the likes 2- I don’t have a favorite fast food place
@ezra6094
@ezra6094 4 жыл бұрын
Wendy IS in smash though
@GenerationGamexp
@GenerationGamexp 4 жыл бұрын
@@ezra6094 I'm dyin🤣🤣🤣
@donovanthefrog138
@donovanthefrog138 4 жыл бұрын
@@ezra6094 unfortunately.
@ericgaming37
@ericgaming37 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I get it! Sonic like the restaurant one...
@littlemanrocks7324
@littlemanrocks7324 4 жыл бұрын
Listen we all know Wendy’s has the better moveset come on it’s so diverse
@jordandiskin6119
@jordandiskin6119 4 жыл бұрын
Title: Why is sonic most hated character? Zero: To answer that, we need to talk about Parallel Universes
@boipotatothatisme5110
@boipotatothatisme5110 4 жыл бұрын
nice reference
@yuricecconi561
@yuricecconi561 4 жыл бұрын
The shellbug is the key to the universe
@mparagames
@mparagames 4 жыл бұрын
You can’t hate one and a half a character’s in a game, one hated character is one hated character
@yuricecconi561
@yuricecconi561 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic has so much de-facto speed.
@mparagames
@mparagames 4 жыл бұрын
@Nathan Hewitt Please stop spamming
@justalpha9138
@justalpha9138 4 жыл бұрын
To be quite truthful, that really is one of the best strategies that I've learned over the years: the faster you tilt your opponent in a high level setting, the faster you can win.
@darryljack6612
@darryljack6612 4 жыл бұрын
The Sad Irony of the thumbnail.
@supermike929
@supermike929 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@marlinmurrell620
@marlinmurrell620 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic: I’m waiting Simon: I don’t need to approach *presses 🅱️ button*
@masterlonk8950
@masterlonk8950 4 жыл бұрын
Marlin Murrell Ness:So do I presses up 🅱️ button:
@BloopTheNoop
@BloopTheNoop 4 жыл бұрын
The links as well
@kliveran
@kliveran 4 жыл бұрын
Laughs in 🅱️
@masterlonk8950
@masterlonk8950 4 жыл бұрын
the litle adversary 🆘
@justsomeboiwithoutabeard1968
@justsomeboiwithoutabeard1968 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic: oh ho, you're approaching me? Simon/Richter: NO NO NO NO, NO!
@amogusfan-mp9iw
@amogusfan-mp9iw 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic: Gets Hated on by Smash Community All Fire Emblem Characters: "First Time?"
@Alibaba-id1cs
@Alibaba-id1cs 4 жыл бұрын
Chrommunist Party it should’ve been Bayo, Icies, or Puff. FE is hated cuz they’re in the game. Sonic’s hated for being fast
@kribyy7784
@kribyy7784 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alibaba-id1cs Puff and icies, lol wat
@williamgrace5651
@williamgrace5651 4 жыл бұрын
Kirby when they could wobble and up throw rest, not now
@Alibaba-id1cs
@Alibaba-id1cs 4 жыл бұрын
William Grace ngl I was thinking brawl icies cuz their grab is more dumber than melee’s but that works too
@kribyy7784
@kribyy7784 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alibaba-id1cs More Dumber, that speaks for it self
@blackoverblueskies6221
@blackoverblueskies6221 4 жыл бұрын
At least no one has to worry about playing against someone who doesn't shower.
@RobbieMelvilleYT
@RobbieMelvilleYT 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a Sonic Fan since I was young, more so than any other series but I don’t play him in any of the smash games because god is his moveset lazy and is his model lifeless.
@yoru3260
@yoru3260 4 жыл бұрын
I just want his OG “You’re too slow!” back
@kylegraham3192
@kylegraham3192 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly 😒
@EzioAuditore338
@EzioAuditore338 4 жыл бұрын
It was so obnoxious that it was a good reason to main him in Brawl "Sonic Speed!" just doesn't have the same weight to it :(
@cjlite0210
@cjlite0210 4 жыл бұрын
No it makes him more toxic Either fix Sonic or remove him from the game
@CursedMoistMan690
@CursedMoistMan690 4 жыл бұрын
Nintendo removed that taunt becuase it was to toxic
@calebartboy7620
@calebartboy7620 4 жыл бұрын
Mabey they can change the taunt to him saying something like “catch me if you can!” Or “aw, couldn’t keep up?” Sure it’s probably not as good as “your too slow” but they sound a lot better then “sonic speed”
@One21P
@One21P 4 жыл бұрын
Smash community: we hate you Sonic. Sonic: okayyyy Eggman
@asbkids4330
@asbkids4330 3 жыл бұрын
Sonic is my favorite fighter. He just moves quick, but not to quick to the point he falls off the stage. And due to his punches and hits are just great in terms of the brawlers.
@Nubbean
@Nubbean 3 жыл бұрын
They laugh at sonic, i laugh at their opinion
@chaoschannel3428
@chaoschannel3428 4 жыл бұрын
*So essentially Sonic just being himself is both a blessing AND a curse...*
@superultramegasonic1
@superultramegasonic1 4 жыл бұрын
yeah..cause sonic being sonic makes his own fanbase hate him.
@electricflamez7918
@electricflamez7918 4 жыл бұрын
@@superultramegasonic1 Well, Sonic hasn't been written like he should be since Sonic and the Black Knight and that was....2009. Huh, 11 years ago. The franchise has become childish compared to what it was from 1991 to 2009. We've been waiting for 11 years for Sonic to act like Sonic again, but it just hasnt happened. Truly, Sonic Team is so bad, I don't think Sonic will ever be good again. I hope I'm wrong.
@rayzas4885
@rayzas4885 4 жыл бұрын
Electric Flamez The series has always been childish. The first sonic game was about saving forest animals from an overweight eggshaped man who put them into robots.
@electricflamez7918
@electricflamez7918 4 жыл бұрын
@@rayzas4885 I guess you could say its premise is childish, but at the same time, the stories and the characters weren't. There was a lot of character development that happened from Sonic Adventure to Sonic and the Black Knight. Characters matured, became stronger, and strengthened their bonds. That all went out the window with Colors. "Haha, Baldy McNosehair." That made Sonic as a character, childish. The Sonic I grew up with may have cracked a joke once or twice, but he wouldn't have kept up the babyish demeanor all throughout the game, much less the next eleven years of games. Forces "mature" storyline is a bunch of edgy mistranslations. Shadow the Hedgehog had a better story while being edgy, and it kept the character development from the previous games. (Okay, it may have regressed slightly from Heroes, but I can forgive that because it doesn't make sense that someone would say "screw the past" after getting amnesia and only finding more mystery.)
@superultramegasonic1
@superultramegasonic1 4 жыл бұрын
@@electricflamez7918 it's so childish cause the fanbase is so childish.
@lastgengamers1137
@lastgengamers1137 4 жыл бұрын
The REAL problem with Sonic now is Nintendo took away his "You're too slow" taunt.
@memememe7081
@memememe7081 4 жыл бұрын
And "C'mon, step it up"
@lastgengamers1137
@lastgengamers1137 4 жыл бұрын
@@memememe7081 I thought come on Step It Up was in Ultimate? Maybe I'm just imagining it
@memememe7081
@memememe7081 4 жыл бұрын
@@lastgengamers1137 It's just "Come on" now.
@lastgengamers1137
@lastgengamers1137 4 жыл бұрын
@@memememe7081 man, my mind always just filled in the blanks...... ugh he's a cocky character let him be cocky.
@ChillestForm
@ChillestForm 4 жыл бұрын
He came from disrespect to fine I’ll be nice
@rezthefalcon
@rezthefalcon 2 жыл бұрын
As a Sonic main myself, this was very interesting to watch. I don’t usually play online, and I have always never really understood why people hated playing against Sonic.
@silverdededestruction2197
@silverdededestruction2197 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic is the most hated character because he tells kids to not trust strangers who want to touch them in a way that makes them feel uncomfortable, something that many of the pros in Smash have been doing.
@minatoyuki4800
@minatoyuki4800 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@marcdimartino9118
@marcdimartino9118 4 жыл бұрын
The deep lore...
@lan8801
@lan8801 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow.
@Lobos00
@Lobos00 4 жыл бұрын
W
@SH-rs3zw
@SH-rs3zw 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao good one
@plowo3021
@plowo3021 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like everyone being oblivious or saying this came out of nowhere really arent involved in the competetive scene in smash
@THEGREATMAX
@THEGREATMAX 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think they're actually gamers either. Sonic in Smash doesn't work the way he does in Sonic games. In SONIC GAMES, sonic starts off running slow and builds up momentum to get to full speed and when he tries to stop, he slides a bit first. IN SMASH FUCK IT. LET HIM STOP ON A DIME AND GO FROM 0-60 These are the kinds of little things that should have been fixed on day 1. For competitive AND common sense reasons
@mokosensein
@mokosensein 4 жыл бұрын
True, he was already the most hated character in terms of playstyle but it was not really an issue because he is not that strong offline so he doesn't get into top brackets. But as offline makes sonic a lot stronger, he became a big problem. I don't know if just letting him be is the solution because you absolutely can't control the hate the players will receive and this issue could be worse.
@HarmlessDK
@HarmlessDK 4 жыл бұрын
@@THEGREATMAX Why would he build up momentum in this, no other character does that at all
@sezarsurge9037
@sezarsurge9037 4 жыл бұрын
PlOwOmbey ha. Or because in online he is ten times worst
@erimasuvonxiella7091
@erimasuvonxiella7091 4 жыл бұрын
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@dawnevergarden3275
@dawnevergarden3275 4 жыл бұрын
Hearing a Rushdown/Zoner hybrid character get tons of hate. "That's no good" -Sonic
@leftheplumberhedgehog4630
@leftheplumberhedgehog4630 3 жыл бұрын
How Zero became the most hated smash KZfaqr
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 4 жыл бұрын
Come on, is it Sonic's fault that -you're- the internet's too slow?
@JdenWasTaken
@JdenWasTaken 4 жыл бұрын
*your
@Section8dc
@Section8dc 4 жыл бұрын
@@JdenWasTaken that's just one thing wrong with that sentence lol
@JdenWasTaken
@JdenWasTaken 4 жыл бұрын
@@Section8dc no but it stuck out the most since he done -this-
@Section8dc
@Section8dc 4 жыл бұрын
@@JdenWasTaken fair enough, have a good day my friend!
@Theeinsom
@Theeinsom 4 жыл бұрын
Lol get it together b4 ranting online kid lol
@byennbye
@byennbye 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh I feel like sonic had a lot of moveset ideas but they went with the conmon ones lol
@moussacamara909
@moussacamara909 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I want the developers to get rid of either his side or down b and replace it with a maybe more iconic or new move in the next smash or when he comes back as dlc
@donovanthefrog138
@donovanthefrog138 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely think they should have given him some modern representation in terms of moveset. Give him the boost (side B) or the stomp (down B). Why does he have 2 spindashes still?
@trashboat5388
@trashboat5388 4 жыл бұрын
Donovan The Frog the stomp is his down air
@byennbye
@byennbye 4 жыл бұрын
@@MegaMaster1021 bruh Ikr
@byennbye
@byennbye 4 жыл бұрын
There are also other things like the wisps from sonic color or even the werehog cuz why not hahaha
@dogefishron2860
@dogefishron2860 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic being the most hated character: Young Link and Ness: Are you challenging me?
@tajhill989
@tajhill989 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic- "sit your asses down children"
@raghavpatel720
@raghavpatel720 4 жыл бұрын
Nickeljorn 12 I agree because his advantage of being the fastest character in the game only approaches whenever he is comfortable
@rileymoore7025
@rileymoore7025 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. G&W: *beep*
@xue1379
@xue1379 4 жыл бұрын
Young link can be super cool
@Phoeniixx
@Phoeniixx 4 жыл бұрын
Raghav Patel ok but the advantage only works on slow characters
@kendallmccoy541
@kendallmccoy541 4 жыл бұрын
His move set had so much potential...
@EmiViolet
@EmiViolet 4 жыл бұрын
Did it really? I mean come on he's pretty much exactly how I'd imagine
@kendallmccoy541
@kendallmccoy541 4 жыл бұрын
Martin Kosix I mean, yeah, he kinda did. Sure, he spins a lot, but a lot of stuff could be drawn from his games with more variety.
@sushii8984
@sushii8984 4 жыл бұрын
@@EmiViolet Project M, Rivals of Aether mods or even SSF2 have far better and more creative movesets. It sucks that 2 games have passed since Brawl and only one move has been graphically changed whilst the rest have barely shifted fundamentally, in project M sonic does poses after doing a homing attack, it's disgusting how little personality he has in this game, it's soulless.
@mattd791
@mattd791 4 жыл бұрын
Martin Kosix there's a lot of people who don't play cancerously with Sonic and it sucks for the people who play normally and are now targeted with with bans for what other players are doing with the character. It's pretty toxic tbh
@greenD7244
@greenD7244 4 жыл бұрын
Martin Kosix Yeah, it did. In Smash, all he does is punches, kicks, spindashes, a homing attack, and a spring. They could have pulled out stuff like the Light Speed Dash, somersault, any of his moves from Battle, the list goes on.
@saz197
@saz197 4 жыл бұрын
Alternative title: “I ran out of prodigies”
@sypenn2502
@sypenn2502 4 жыл бұрын
The children escaped
@godlywalrus2694
@godlywalrus2694 4 жыл бұрын
@@sypenn2502 I thought I locked the basement damn it
@Baconator4579
@Baconator4579 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@naveenkarthikeyan4744
@naveenkarthikeyan4744 4 жыл бұрын
NOOOOO, business ain’t blooming anymore
@RileyB_226
@RileyB_226 4 жыл бұрын
@@godlywalrus2694 they went out through a window
@benramirez7678
@benramirez7678 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: hates sonic That one kid sammy: YOU FRICKIN FRICKS WHEN WILL YOU LEARN
@Daniel328DT
@Daniel328DT 4 жыл бұрын
THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEquENCES!
@ZK-ff2ru
@ZK-ff2ru 4 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel328DT *voice crack*
@Dr.PaiPai
@Dr.PaiPai 4 жыл бұрын
He's an adult now.
@Dr.PaiPai
@Dr.PaiPai 4 жыл бұрын
@QuickThePorcupine He's autistic? I never knew that.
@intensellylit4100
@intensellylit4100 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.PaiPai surprised?
@1MoreSonicRobot
@1MoreSonicRobot 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays Sonic this is really disheartening.
@Yarida929
@Yarida929 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays Hero this is really uplifting
@jakeslamakowski6990
@jakeslamakowski6990 4 жыл бұрын
Don't listen to salty people, pretty lane this dude is willing to dedicate probably a few hours of his life to make a video complaining about this.
@Emberdrake212
@Emberdrake212 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakeslamakowski6990 he did not complain about Sonic. He made an analysis about how Sonic is causing controversy from a non-biased standpoint.
@pcvrisepic
@pcvrisepic 4 жыл бұрын
Jake Slamakowski he didn’t complain like could you at least watch the video
@yusoftyo9718
@yusoftyo9718 4 жыл бұрын
Hope you ain’t a spammer
@CFSChickenfriedsteak
@CFSChickenfriedsteak 4 жыл бұрын
Took the time to count the amount of spindashes Mkleo vs Sonix Game 1: 71 Game 2: 34-42 Game 3 : 37 Game 4 : 75
@Lagoa_real
@Lagoa_real 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Lord
@kezare569
@kezare569 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen that comment in the actual match video. Lol.
@NegativeNanase
@NegativeNanase 4 жыл бұрын
Probably still less than the amount of projectiles snake mains spam
@leinswaisbrick
@leinswaisbrick 4 жыл бұрын
Now count the amount of grenades Snake use, or the amount of rollers Inkling use.
@natego9817
@natego9817 4 жыл бұрын
Two of Sonic’s special moves are spindashes. It only makes sense that they would be used a lot. I don’t get why people don’t realize this.
@kaichiku6335
@kaichiku6335 4 жыл бұрын
It sucks that a character that is so fun to play with an agressive playstyle is used in a really passive, campy way
@kaichiku6335
@kaichiku6335 4 жыл бұрын
@@wizrad2281 me too !
@Venom-rr1vg
@Venom-rr1vg 4 жыл бұрын
I try to play agressivley but alot of people spam so should i spam back?
@SuperAaron360
@SuperAaron360 4 жыл бұрын
Kaichiku If Sonic is played too aggressively, people will just outhit him. It sucks but that’s how he was designed.
@kaichiku6335
@kaichiku6335 4 жыл бұрын
@@Venom-rr1vg Give them a taste of their own medicine !
@kaichiku6335
@kaichiku6335 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperAaron360 I guess that is true, I don't really play the game seriously in any way so viability doesn't really matter to me. Challenge is always fun !
@cherrybansx7398
@cherrybansx7398 4 жыл бұрын
this goes for any game: play what you enjoy and dont care what others think. they dont find your strategy fun to play against? thats their concern. your goal is always to win regardless of how competitive you play the game. your goal is not to entertain your opponent.
@QuasarManiac
@QuasarManiac 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve mained Sonic since Brawl, and I’ve dealt with the hate all my Smashing life... I just think he’s cool :(
@nahte724
@nahte724 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I main Sonic because I'm a sonic fan first, and a casual smash player second.
@cloudythoughts9864
@cloudythoughts9864 4 жыл бұрын
Me: plays sonic as my main Some random bitch: ugh a sonic main Me: switches to shulk.
@blueblursonic0298
@blueblursonic0298 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic is cool 👍🏻
@guccigunner75gucci91
@guccigunner75gucci91 4 жыл бұрын
@@cloudythoughts9864 😂😂😂
@eastbeast1379
@eastbeast1379 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. I've mained Sonic since Brawl myself.
@hupyaboia4574
@hupyaboia4574 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, the smash community is being toxic, what’s new?
@ExplodingTrujillo
@ExplodingTrujillo 4 жыл бұрын
HUPYABOIA yup
@raziell
@raziell 4 жыл бұрын
@Maintenance Renegade Why are you here?
@kissesuwu5282
@kissesuwu5282 4 жыл бұрын
@Maintenance Renegade Jesus dude, who shat in your cereal?
@WhoamI-wc7pj
@WhoamI-wc7pj 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah...
@chickenheart3612
@chickenheart3612 4 жыл бұрын
TFW you're the 69th like.
@derpycloud
@derpycloud Жыл бұрын
As someone who's considers myself a Sonic main, I like to think that I'm a rather aggressive Sonic player. Though looking and listening to how he's describing how he's used in competitions, then I start to realize some of the things that I do as well...
@willmonferno
@willmonferno 4 жыл бұрын
sooo... I play sonic, and I've heard the whole "oh, sonic is too campy and annoying", and to that I say: lighten up. It's ok to not like sonic, but when you bash people for playing a character because they love the character, that just isn't right..
@jamonelavivanco5994
@jamonelavivanco5994 4 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that mains Sonic that mains him since the start of 4 and I loved playing the matchup, he never camped to a point that we both just stood still. He was and still is an aggressive Sonic main and that made it weird to me when people would complain seeing him simply select Sonic.
@mee091000
@mee091000 4 жыл бұрын
Jamonela Vivanco Lol that friend is literally me except I've been playing Sonic since Brawl. It feels like the whole community has completely turned on you. You are playing as one of the greatest heroes in gaming and everyone hates you.
@hikarusr7986
@hikarusr7986 4 жыл бұрын
As a casual Smash player I was a super aggressive Sonic main back when Brawl came out. (Well, actually *before* Brawl came out since I played Smash Bros. X, the Japanese version.) And after watching a lot of Clockwork's videos in the past year, seeing campy Sonics in other videos always confused me. Lol
@yaboichronos2103
@yaboichronos2103 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who also played Sonic since Brawl it doesnt make sense to me seeing him turned into this campy character. Its the least enjoyable way to play the character. Also as someone who has always been a Sonic fan it kinda hurts knowing the one place where your favorite character wasnt being verbally crapped on no longer exist...
@Ando1428
@Ando1428 4 жыл бұрын
@@mee091000 same. I was also a sonic brawl main. I tried aggressive and always got pwned i never gave up on him. Though in 4 he could kill pretty easy at 40. Sonic is pretty fun and always had been. I always thought that being campy was wrong. Im the fastest character in game. I should get to play aggressive.
@ZeroSmoke.
@ZeroSmoke. 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic main here. I usually alternate between aggressive or campy depending on my opponent
@DRK-hz5ck
@DRK-hz5ck 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic: is “the most hated character” Quickplay Ness: allow me to introduce myself
@erwinurrutia6424
@erwinurrutia6424 4 жыл бұрын
i love ness haha
@drachma1651
@drachma1651 4 жыл бұрын
I mean good ness in tournies are amazing to watch. Best Ness is great
@Jellyman4
@Jellyman4 4 жыл бұрын
*PK FIRE*
@naldect9141
@naldect9141 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jellyman4 PK Fire is more tolerable than trying to predict if this fucker using sonic is gonna let go of the B button while I'm shielding, possibly breaking my shield. Its unhealthy.
@nicklasupachak2706
@nicklasupachak2706 4 жыл бұрын
Nota Robot sonic play style is to punish player mistakes so if you want to punish sonic you have to bait him sonic holding his spin dash is him baiting you to use you shield so he can break it and pull off a combo
@spiralanimations7736
@spiralanimations7736 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they should change sonic to where he gets slower if he has a lead, it would be kinda fitting for his charter as he would take you less seriously and not see you as a threat so he’ll slow down but if he’s losing he’ll go serious and make a bit faster than he is right now or just give him that normal speed he already has. Not sure how this would transition into a competitive scene
@reachingbeyond7065
@reachingbeyond7065 4 жыл бұрын
As a Sonic main, I can safely say I've died way too many times being hyper aggressive
@sansic9387
@sansic9387 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. I try Ariel attack and I end up being down spiked into oblivion or unable to recover. I PERFER ground attacks :T
@Mightykeef
@Mightykeef 4 жыл бұрын
This was a very well articulated video. Nice job man
@brassattacks632
@brassattacks632 3 жыл бұрын
I know you
@kibbywitz
@kibbywitz 3 жыл бұрын
Sup mighty keef
@DavetheWade
@DavetheWade 3 жыл бұрын
Sup
@What.I.said.was.
@What.I.said.was. 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic is my favorite video game character, but is badly represented in Smash. I wish they just redo Sonics move set completely and give him more variety of moves that complement each other. Even his stages are a misrepresentation of him. I feel like if Sonic was a newcomer, he would be a way better designed character!
@infinlte
@infinlte 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he could maybe have a moveset from Sonic Battle...
@TailsGuy72
@TailsGuy72 4 жыл бұрын
@@infinlte That'd be my dream come true, considering it's one of my favorite Sonic games.
@justascarecrow6988
@justascarecrow6988 4 жыл бұрын
I hate that they didnt touch Sonic's design. An icon of gaming, one of my fave franchises. Still barely anything but a ball with two identical ball-ups.
@antoinewilliams290
@antoinewilliams290 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic: Again..? Can I get one damn break in video games!?
@PACSAX
@PACSAX 4 жыл бұрын
As a sonic main, I can safely say that I’ll never get sick of that spinning sound
@zacnmac2633
@zacnmac2633 4 жыл бұрын
Word!
@thomasgagne3002
@thomasgagne3002 3 жыл бұрын
Me too men. Me too.
@BuddyBoy-ne1nw
@BuddyBoy-ne1nw 3 жыл бұрын
I wake up in cold sweats with that sound grinding through my head like a fuckin chainsaw.
@themightyman4230
@themightyman4230 3 жыл бұрын
well said bro its music to my ears
@danm4863
@danm4863 3 жыл бұрын
I hate you all
@AlfinirFGC
@AlfinirFGC 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, these events made me play Sonic more. I just love running everywhere and edgeguard really deep with him, and if everyone hates him, at least i'll give him some love
@superpokebros
@superpokebros 4 жыл бұрын
Me to, thats how i play and i secure a lot of wins
@doctorbustdown5981
@doctorbustdown5981 4 жыл бұрын
Just anger them so much they can’t see straight and then you get free wins. Lmao
@johnathanmurray8295
@johnathanmurray8295 4 жыл бұрын
Sonic is just shit. All they do is run around the map attacking every so often like a bunch of pussies. It takes no skill to play the hit and run style.
@superpokebros
@superpokebros 4 жыл бұрын
I dont play like that and plus, cant you do that with any character
@Maxithicc
@Maxithicc 4 жыл бұрын
@@superpokebros Not really, Sonic is just too fast for anybody to catch him in the game, Just like ZeRo explained in the video
@PoipoiFR
@PoipoiFR 4 жыл бұрын
When the fastest character wins through playing slowly.
@ahmadkazan7994
@ahmadkazan7994 4 жыл бұрын
Blame designers.
@jonathaniracheta5168
@jonathaniracheta5168 4 жыл бұрын
I think the main problem with camping is timing out, in an ideal match with no time, there wouls never exist time out, so interactions are the only way to win. So I propose an alternative, making a "camp-ability" tierlist, and if the game goes to time decide the winner based on this tierlist characters on the same tier are decided by advantage, the lower tiers wins even if they have less stocks. It's still kind of subjective, but I think it's fair.
@TheWordPlay
@TheWordPlay 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like Smash keeps rotating through characters to hate
@Fearsomex23
@Fearsomex23 4 жыл бұрын
Lol just look at the fanbase 🤣😂
@angelomendoza6666
@angelomendoza6666 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a palu main I’m used to the hate lmao 😂
@precise9318
@precise9318 4 жыл бұрын
WordPlay I’m a falcon main so I’m used to just love
@N12015
@N12015 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelomendoza6666 I'm also starting to accept the hate as a Game & Watch main. It's weird because this character was mid-tier at best, but a busted Up-B OoS, N-air and B-air are a busted Up-B OoS, N-air and B-air (The back air is your busted move, Up-B OoS mine and N-air OUR).
@selahgray3388
@selahgray3388 4 жыл бұрын
"Play lame, win games!" - Alpharad
@AkameGaKillfan777
@AkameGaKillfan777 4 жыл бұрын
>How to win the best World of Light battle
@estebansoto7700
@estebansoto7700 4 жыл бұрын
He said it, and it´s true
@badbillmadman4843
@badbillmadman4843 4 жыл бұрын
Also Omni
@nimcie8377
@nimcie8377 4 жыл бұрын
Selah Gray haha you quoted the funny internet man! Now I will laugh
@ibrahimbeats
@ibrahimbeats 4 жыл бұрын
I love the character of Sonic, but I definitely feel like he was perhaps done a little dirty in Smash - would have been cool if they had updated his overall moveset and playstyle with Ultimate but oh well
@TokyoDrift456
@TokyoDrift456 4 жыл бұрын
he was added last minute to brawl so that makes his bland moveset in that game understandable, but in 2 games youd think theyd done something about it, he has starred in 2 fighting games and the most he has is his f tilt and f smash, give something to Sonic that showcases his agility, the fact he loves breakdancing, his moves from his 2 fighting games
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