How Speed Runners look to NPC's

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Жыл бұрын

Ever wonder how Speed Runners look to NPC's?
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@thestabbybrit4798
@thestabbybrit4798 Жыл бұрын
For anyone who is confused, shoving Greg normally doesn't do anything when he's a vendor. However, because of an oversight it's possible to trick the game into thinking Greg is a companion for a two frame window by what we call "double-dialog-skip", where you use mouse and keyboard shortcuts simultaneously to skip dialog. Once Greg has been pushed, you need to enter the space he was stood in. This is technically out of bounds so the game will then try to push the player into a valid space, and here we take advantage of Bucket Launch. The bucket in Honeywood is coded to only have collision on the inside, so by placing a bucket on your head you create unintended collision and the game can't put you back into play. It will keep trying until you eventually build up a crazy speed value that eventually hurls you a considerable distance. Being hurled into the sky wouldn't normally be useful so this exploit went ignored for years, but in September 2022 we discovered Comet Skip, and that changed everything...
@surrrithux
@surrrithux Жыл бұрын
This may be the best comment I have ever read in my life...
@Funkho
@Funkho Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation, I've always wondered how people can cross the map so fast...
@infrasonicrebasses4763
@infrasonicrebasses4763 Жыл бұрын
lovely
@Me-vr9ms
@Me-vr9ms Жыл бұрын
Wait.. is this a real game or was that just the most creative comment ever..?
@henningratjen4364
@henningratjen4364 Жыл бұрын
@@Me-vr9ms Its a creative comment, alltough thats the way speedrunners look at games, of course slightly exaggerated
@ShiddySushi
@ShiddySushi Жыл бұрын
Rowan saying that's his fastest time makes me realize the characters live through an endless loop. A loop that continuously explodes their minds each time it is done.
@zwenkwiel816
@zwenkwiel816 Жыл бұрын
ehm rowan is the player character speedrunning. so ofcourse he replays the game over and over....
@AustralianGrizzly
@AustralianGrizzly Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they consider this game an MMO, so its most likely players that Speedrun those than the singleplayer variety.
@Zack_Zander
@Zack_Zander Жыл бұрын
Skip
@doublehit9165
@doublehit9165 Жыл бұрын
it depends if their memory is wiped out at the end of ech playthrough or not
@---jx3ql
@---jx3ql Жыл бұрын
Not all npc there is one that knows
@craz2580
@craz2580 Жыл бұрын
I like how greg is a garlic farmer yet he has the most powerfull everything in the game
@0_Body
@0_Body Жыл бұрын
They clearly derive their power from garlic
@legendsofmichael4315
@legendsofmichael4315 Жыл бұрын
They skipped the explanation
@1.1kSubChallengeWithoutAnyVid
@1.1kSubChallengeWithoutAnyVid Жыл бұрын
@@legendsofmichael4315 i see what you did there
@limiv5272
@limiv5272 Жыл бұрын
I love how Greg is a garlic farmer, yet he does no farming
@0_Body
@0_Body Жыл бұрын
@@limiv5272 Garlic farms itself
@christianperry9187
@christianperry9187 Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine being a self aware NPC. The whole purpose of your creation is to deliver one line. You practice it to yourself over and over. You wait hours, days, maybe even months if the player takes their time. Finally you see the player coming. This is the moment you practiced for. This is the whole reason for your existence. You are about to fulfill your purpose in life. Then they skip your conversation and loot your house.
@2nd-place
@2nd-place Жыл бұрын
My friend, you’ve been a self-aware NPC this whole time. As a matter of fact, all of us are. Nothing is real, everything is meaningless.
@shrekshrek
@shrekshrek Жыл бұрын
SKIP
@enlightendbel
@enlightendbel Жыл бұрын
I guess that's why they are such assholes in selling you gear at 100x the price they buy it for.
@Commander_Shepard.
@Commander_Shepard. Жыл бұрын
@@2nd-place SKIP
@EriesAston
@EriesAston Жыл бұрын
Nothing is real, Everything is permitted
@cool-aquarian
@cool-aquarian Жыл бұрын
Still can’t skip the end credits. Totally relatable.
@relytunder
@relytunder Жыл бұрын
it only matters when the start/stop timer points are
@claireglory
@claireglory Жыл бұрын
or skip the fixed longass intro scene
@wolfsokaya
@wolfsokaya Жыл бұрын
If its a record breaking run,they usually leave the pc. :]
@richardhowells5804
@richardhowells5804 Жыл бұрын
Just like in MGS2 😅
@starfruitified3456
@starfruitified3456 Жыл бұрын
Credits usually aren't part of the run since the last input is where the run ends. That's why you don't see runners skip credits.
@Vallamaria
@Vallamaria Жыл бұрын
I love how even though Baradun is just as confused as Greg is he never skips any chance he can get to give him the middle finger.
@atimidbirb
@atimidbirb Жыл бұрын
It´s just tradition now
@Aileil
@Aileil Жыл бұрын
True dedication to the grudge,
@RavenMatthew
@RavenMatthew Жыл бұрын
666 likes
@LCF_GT
@LCF_GT Жыл бұрын
Skip
@cherrydragon3120
@cherrydragon3120 Жыл бұрын
@@----Jay---- is greg not also sentient?
@tsipher
@tsipher Жыл бұрын
Lol imagine being an NPC in ocarina of time, watching Link back flipping through the entire village
@Patralgan
@Patralgan Жыл бұрын
Then doing strange maneuvers and holding an invisible rock and then suddenly disappearing
@Paulunatr
@Paulunatr Жыл бұрын
Given that "normal" Link invades homes, smashes things and takes whatever's not nailed down without saying a word, speedrun Link is a step up
@NetMoverSitan
@NetMoverSitan Жыл бұрын
Legend of A**hole is one way of doing that.
@Toshinegawa
@Toshinegawa Жыл бұрын
@Paulunatr you sir deserve a medal. Take a like, friend
@christopherhall5361
@christopherhall5361 Жыл бұрын
*HYAH*
@Pokedude12-29
@Pokedude12-29 Жыл бұрын
0:07 Speedrun Begin 0:10 Accept First Story Quest 0:17 Acquire the Sealing Stone 0:23 Exchange Sealing Stone for Dark Knight armor (required for buckrocket exploit) 0:28 Buy Horseshoe for duplication glitch 0:32 Buckrocket 0:35 Defeat Deephell Flame Beast, Activate Armageddon 0:41 Use Icecurse Sigil, activate Hel on Earth 0:43 Defeat Cerberus, deactivate Hel on Earth 0:46 Duplicate Bloodhound Fang 0:49 Acquire Ring of Heaven and Earth 0:59 Accept Brotherhood quest 1:00 Use Celestial Hellkey, activate End of the Universe 1:06 Travel to Darklands for 0.78 sec timesave (new tech, impressive 👍) 1:15 Defeat Lord of the Realms, deactivate End of the Universe 1:17 Bond with Greg for faster ending 1:22 Defeat Zeus 1:24 Rescue Baradun 1:28 Run complete
@riasyx2469
@riasyx2469 11 ай бұрын
damn really underrated bro
@kamilziemian995
@kamilziemian995 10 ай бұрын
Now I understand story of the game.
@MoltenMetal613
@MoltenMetal613 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention how he got a gold split on the Lord of the Realms section. It’s no wonder it was his fastest time.
@DgardsGaming
@DgardsGaming 9 ай бұрын
16 minutes How long was the game in general jeez.
@RobertJ-vo4bk
@RobertJ-vo4bk 9 ай бұрын
I was waiting for Niftski to pop out at the end with a faster time.
@umayyah3475
@umayyah3475 Жыл бұрын
From taking 18 hours to solve the honeywood murders and missing a core mechanic, into finishing the entire frickin’ game in 16 minutes and mastering forbidden top secret techniques. Rowan has gone a long way with ben’s tutoring… Truly a legend that one, but the credit also goes to his master!
@antenant9294
@antenant9294 Жыл бұрын
.. roughly comparable with my own speeds of character developement between vanilla WoW and Classic WoW... Man, I miss the clueless blunderer I used to be.
@marot360
@marot360 Жыл бұрын
Quite a progress!
@libo2000
@libo2000 Жыл бұрын
The key is compassion for your fellow man. You need to have absolutely none of it.
@Mongo-pw9vh
@Mongo-pw9vh Жыл бұрын
I guess he figured out the "horse pocket" too
@sworddomo1951
@sworddomo1951 Жыл бұрын
Once you memorized the locations you don't need detective mode.
@Mulakulu
@Mulakulu Жыл бұрын
This is legendary. I've never seen anyone execute the bucket thrust exploit so flawlessly.
@scottrauch1261
@scottrauch1261 Жыл бұрын
I didnt know you could keep the bucket to execute the exploit were ever you want, i keep fast traveling to Riverwood to do do it at the garlic farm. Smh
@TQuong
@TQuong Жыл бұрын
TIL about the Skyrim Flying Bucket
@EddieMitz
@EddieMitz Жыл бұрын
@@scottrauch1261 yeah man, if you manage to keep the bucket at the beginning, it easily shaves off 2-3 minutes on your entire run (depending on whether you can successfully do the mossy-stone-border glitch on the Lost Weary Traveler mission)
@jako7281
@jako7281 Жыл бұрын
I love that Greg is confused because no one has ever finished the game before
@s.a.m7297
@s.a.m7297 Жыл бұрын
finished the story, not the game itself
@warllockmasterasd9142
@warllockmasterasd9142 Жыл бұрын
@Dewani90 well one guy once. got everything in world of Warcraft, and the devs declared he beat the game.
@GoodBoyGoneDad
@GoodBoyGoneDad Жыл бұрын
Probably how Witcher 3 NPCs feel. 😂
@calebowens693
@calebowens693 Жыл бұрын
Well, if it's the player's fastest time, then presumably he's finished it at least once before. Probably Greg's memory is wiped by event triggers (sort of like when he snapped from being skipped too much, threatened to kill the player character, and then forgot right after). Actually, I think when Greg snapped before it was Rowan as the player too. Maybe Greg snapping is why getting a successful speedrun is so hard.
@lex5096
@lex5096 Жыл бұрын
Na, the run is probably full of glitches, so much that as a side effect the end credits name list is played in honeywood instead of at baraduns place
@Primarch_Rogal_Dorn
@Primarch_Rogal_Dorn Жыл бұрын
1:17 THE DRAGONS OF SHMARGENROOOOOOGGGGG
@allenharper2928
@allenharper2928 Жыл бұрын
Love how he looked confused as to why he was compelled to sing that lol.
@kaneo1
@kaneo1 25 күн бұрын
Skip!
@DanielTAKD
@DanielTAKD Күн бұрын
What?
@wildbean7736
@wildbean7736 Жыл бұрын
This man finished 16 minutes in little over 2 minutes. legend status
@abhimanraj04
@abhimanraj04 Жыл бұрын
Skip
@Epaminaidos
@Epaminaidos Жыл бұрын
It's timed with the in game timer.
@xxxxSylphxxxx
@xxxxSylphxxxx Жыл бұрын
*absolute* legend status, even.
@tymcfadden8496
@tymcfadden8496 Жыл бұрын
@@Epaminaidos skip
@genocyber4842
@genocyber4842 Жыл бұрын
He speed ran the speed run
@jmwall24
@jmwall24 Жыл бұрын
The hardest part of the speed run is avoiding Greg pulling a knife on you for too many skips.
@wraithofavici
@wraithofavici Жыл бұрын
It may involve save reloads this time
@stevenjohnson2886
@stevenjohnson2886 Жыл бұрын
@kerimca98
@kerimca98 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, pre-angry-Greg patch, good times
@Zirkalaritz
@Zirkalaritz Жыл бұрын
That's why in this route we sing with him, tell him that we'll never forget him and he's like a brother to us, to build just enough relationship with him to prevent the first level of hostility. It used to be faster not to do it, but it was inconsistent as the loss of reputation is not a fixed value and a bad roll would ruin the run. Consistency was chosen over a negligible time save.
@ashurad_fox5991
@ashurad_fox5991 Жыл бұрын
Ah, right 10% chance was it? Devs put a rare event if you skipped the dialog too much
@marksayosmejia7251
@marksayosmejia7251 Жыл бұрын
This must be the most important npc for a speedrunner to keep talking to him.
@brandonpetersen5710
@brandonpetersen5710 Жыл бұрын
He's like. The only quest giver the game has.
@tfywmnftiadp
@tfywmnftiadp Жыл бұрын
He's like a brother to him...
@gabrielreed8039
@gabrielreed8039 Жыл бұрын
​@@brandonpetersen5710The only major one iirc, every other quest giver has like half a dozen at best..
@toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917
@toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917 Жыл бұрын
​@@tfywmnftiadphe'll never forget him
@concernedviewer2887
@concernedviewer2887 11 ай бұрын
he has a majority of the needed story quests and is needed for the fastest ending
@Ares9323
@Ares9323 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe you didn't mention voluntary deaths to respawn in a specific checkpoint, that would have been cool!
@alaric_
@alaric_ Жыл бұрын
He may have done that seeing how fast Rowan popped next to Greg, but we can't see it as it was all from Gregs point of view.
@drunknpoet
@drunknpoet Жыл бұрын
i was going to say that he did at 1:03, maybe
@ahmataevo
@ahmataevo 11 ай бұрын
No no no, this was the deathless run. The next challenge is the no hit run!
@birbwatcher5515
@birbwatcher5515 2 ай бұрын
fast travel my suicide? is there any other way??
@tickytickytango5634
@tickytickytango5634 Жыл бұрын
The fact that his programming makes him do stuff without having any clue why is genius.
@ZerotZallander
@ZerotZallander Жыл бұрын
Somehow I totally missed that :v
@The_Forge_Master
@The_Forge_Master Жыл бұрын
@@ZerotZallander Not sure how you missed _suddenly: singing._
@ZerotZallander
@ZerotZallander Жыл бұрын
@@The_Forge_Master It would appear I commented on the wrong comment. The thing I didn't notice was that "you can tell how far he's progressing by seeing how his equipment gets better"
@FalconOfStorms
@FalconOfStorms Жыл бұрын
Kind of like all of us.
@rosyidharyadi7871
@rosyidharyadi7871 Жыл бұрын
happens in real life as well.
@rusticgiraffe4262
@rusticgiraffe4262 Жыл бұрын
That man was so fast he was able to pass 16 minutes in just a minute and a half. Legend.
@ottolehikoinen6193
@ottolehikoinen6193 Жыл бұрын
But he showed how the Greg bucket skip works.
@jypsridic
@jypsridic Жыл бұрын
That was because of time dilation, as you approach infinite speed off if the bucket launch glitch updating your physics takes more and more processing power, also approaching infinite, and the result is that the clock speed in the game is reduced. Since we're watching from the perspective of the npcs we don't notice the clock rate slowing because we get slowed too, as a result the player's real world time and the in universe time become disjointed.
@loudgoat5241
@loudgoat5241 Жыл бұрын
Minute and a half? A real legend would do Honeywood Streets in 1:12
@totallynotaminecraftchanne1923
@totallynotaminecraftchanne1923 Жыл бұрын
The beauties of dialogue skipping
@zweihanderpancakes1855
@zweihanderpancakes1855 Жыл бұрын
@pokejinwwi Depending on how you look at it, the speed of light is infinite speed. Since nothing can be faster than light, and numerically the only thing without anything bigger than it is infinity, (you can always add one if it's not a conceptual value), that checks out. You'd be surprised at how many games have relativity coded into them; any game with physics frames (the actual game slows down when the framerate drops) and dynamic loading will have relativity, because as your player speeds up you are forcing the game to load more things more quickly, which causes the engine to slow down as a result.
@Seven_Leaf
@Seven_Leaf Жыл бұрын
I love how Greg only has a spare moment to get offended by this player before he's brought into utter confusion. Therefore the run is never ruined by him threatening a rude adventurer.
@JaneXemylixa
@JaneXemylixa Жыл бұрын
The bit where he selectively allowed himself 2.4 seconds of non-speed-related fun ("draaagons...") was so real. That's how it be, optimization be damned
@l4w1i3t
@l4w1i3t 11 ай бұрын
Actually, he emoted there so that the game could flush its memory in a way that enables wrong warping into the boss arena at the Altar of Shmargenrog. The strat was only discovered days before Rowan used it here, so it was fairly new at the time.
@herardpique7302
@herardpique7302 4 ай бұрын
easy WR
@nutshot_brawler8466
@nutshot_brawler8466 Жыл бұрын
I like how you can tell how far he's progressing by seeing how his equipment gets better
@michaelsong5555
@michaelsong5555 Жыл бұрын
Real speedrunners never both with armors, because they never get hit (unless it's gonna save them a few seconds). They're basically naked barbarians.
@FlamingNinjaBoi
@FlamingNinjaBoi Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsong5555 Depends on the game. Some games might have item requirements or whatever - like a gear level to enter a certain place - or some games might have inevitable incoming damage you need to be able to take to continue. But yeah if it's a possibility for the game, a speedrunner will absolutely go full-dodge.
@kenzacharyrodriguez2591
@kenzacharyrodriguez2591 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsong5555 true, speedrunners dont bother with high end gear because it takes too long to acquire them.
@SleepyStreak
@SleepyStreak Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsong5555 Depends if there's any armor/gear that the time acquiring it is less than the time it saves. Which is certainly the case for some things.
@michaelsong5555
@michaelsong5555 Жыл бұрын
@@SleepyStreak That's usually the case for weapons, but not armors.
@MrDARKJAK
@MrDARKJAK Жыл бұрын
I lost it at Rowan abusing the physics engine and becoming a rocket 🤣.
@fallen4062
@fallen4062 Жыл бұрын
Yeah lol
@klaw7050
@klaw7050 Жыл бұрын
Yep. I almost spit my coffee when that happened.
@christianstachl
@christianstachl Жыл бұрын
BUT, you have to admit, in many any% runs it is exactly like that 😂
@DivineFalcon
@DivineFalcon Жыл бұрын
He's probably doing the horse tilt glitch from Skyrim...
@OblivionHand
@OblivionHand Жыл бұрын
Rowan's speed travel 😄
@codmanout9861
@codmanout9861 Жыл бұрын
This video actually has some really good eye tracking work. The way the editor created a believable tracking sight line for Alan is, genuinely, top notch. There are Hollywood level editors who can't pull that off.
@Crow-Fly
@Crow-Fly Жыл бұрын
Man I love Gregg and Baradun's relationship, can we have more with them. Also so funny how disappointed Baradun was that he got skipped!!
@comradekarlvonschnitzelste8218
@comradekarlvonschnitzelste8218 Жыл бұрын
I would 100% buy a game based on this series
@isaacgould5974
@isaacgould5974 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@agaxent6200
@agaxent6200 Жыл бұрын
why not develop their own pc game in like this im gonna buy it also.. and support them.
@DmpstrPirate
@DmpstrPirate Жыл бұрын
I DEMAND THEY MAKE IT
@kaboomsihal1164
@kaboomsihal1164 Жыл бұрын
@@agaxent6200 yeah because that's a fun weekend activity lmfao. Not like that requires a shitton of money and skills for what would be a 5 minutes parody
@6squall9
@6squall9 Жыл бұрын
@@kaboomsihal1164 they arent big enough for gaming industry to be willing to invest in MMO based on them yet, but they might be eventually. decent MMO takes quite a bit of time and money investment so it's not happening any time soon if ever
@Kio_Kurashi
@Kio_Kurashi Жыл бұрын
The best part of this is that it actually adheres to the continuity that you yourself have created with your own skits.
@perlundgren7797
@perlundgren7797 Жыл бұрын
Is this just a fancy way of saying "You made another video in a series" or does it actually mean something?
@HiddenWindshield
@HiddenWindshield Жыл бұрын
@@perlundgren7797 It's possible to "make another video in a series" without having continuity with previous videos in the series.
@perlundgren7797
@perlundgren7797 Жыл бұрын
@@HiddenWindshield By all means, but isn't Epic NPC Man pretty much always internally consistent? I realize I probably sounded snarkier than intended, but if it's supposed to be the "best part" I figured there should be somehing more to it.
@pypeapple
@pypeapple Жыл бұрын
He means the entirely fake story and quests within epic npc man that the VLDL team have kept consistent throughout the entire series even tough they don’t have to
@santosic
@santosic Жыл бұрын
@@pypeapple yep, the appearance of the bucket, the Dragons of Schamenrog, Baradun, the Dark Lands... all quests from this "game" we've seen before.
@ElectricBlaze164
@ElectricBlaze164 Жыл бұрын
I love how somebody in the credits is literally called "A Somebody" 🤣🤣🤣
@asomebody6120
@asomebody6120 Жыл бұрын
Omg mom I'm in the credits
@bingsoy.
@bingsoy. Жыл бұрын
@@asomebody6120 lol
@Marcus_405
@Marcus_405 Жыл бұрын
also saw a jiggle physics tester
@ElectricBlaze164
@ElectricBlaze164 Жыл бұрын
@@asomebody6120 lol
@ElectricBlaze164
@ElectricBlaze164 Жыл бұрын
@@Marcus_405 that's hilarious lol
@LLothian
@LLothian Жыл бұрын
i love how they took a tiny bit of time to sing a part of the song
@bigj8809
@bigj8809 Жыл бұрын
I love how genuinely confused allan looks
@setsunakoikogeki182
@setsunakoikogeki182 Жыл бұрын
that's how an NPC feels with all these speed runners in games.
@ditto113
@ditto113 Жыл бұрын
they probably didn't give him the script .. and he's like .. "what's going on, isn't anyone going to yell *cut* ?" O.o
@cherrycheshire7555
@cherrycheshire7555 Жыл бұрын
Best line right there: "MOVE! I need your exploit" and the swap from being upset to genuinely terrified got me XD
@avoidant560
@avoidant560 Жыл бұрын
With this kind of run, I could imagine there would be an hour long or so historical video about this one villager strat that literally cut hours of time and helped the speedrunning community of this game out there -- just to be discovered by the masses or algorithm.
@willc3697
@willc3697 Жыл бұрын
I think it would have been even funnier if he was angry at his latest time for being 2 seconds more than his previous record, and just kill the two guys in rage before starting again.
@justmonika6529
@justmonika6529 Жыл бұрын
this js very real. Speedrunning makes you angry
@Vaquix000
@Vaquix000 Жыл бұрын
@@justmonika6529 I don't see the upside to speedrunning. You play the game for such an absurd amount of time it becomes boring so that you can finish it quickly to... Impress who exactly? All it shows is they have too much time on their hands and don't know how to spend it.
@soviet_pie_rat
@soviet_pie_rat Жыл бұрын
@@Vaquix000 You could say that about anything. Sport, drawing, film making, etc. "All it shows is they have too much time on their hands and don't know how to spend it." And yes, there are fans of the speedrunning (i'm not a fan, but sometimes I watch speedruns)
@iPuls3
@iPuls3 Жыл бұрын
@@Vaquix000 To impress the fans and show that you're the best. Permanent legend status.
@willc3697
@willc3697 Жыл бұрын
@@iPuls3 “permanent” until someone else beats your record by 1.021 seconds, then so begins your descent into irrelevance…
@thndercat007
@thndercat007 Жыл бұрын
Greg always kills me with some unexpected funny reaction! The credits flying by "Who are all these people!?!"
@VivaLaDirtLeague
@VivaLaDirtLeague Жыл бұрын
Spoiler - they’re all our patrons 😜
@angeladawn805
@angeladawn805 Жыл бұрын
@@VivaLaDirtLeague bravo. That was brilliant. 😊
@MyButtsBeenWiped
@MyButtsBeenWiped Жыл бұрын
@@VivaLaDirtLeague Never Cease Epic NPC Man !
@Vares65
@Vares65 Жыл бұрын
@@VivaLaDirtLeague I assumed as much.
@Vares65
@Vares65 Жыл бұрын
Did you read any of it, they had some funny job titles in there.
@kennethcurtis7082
@kennethcurtis7082 Жыл бұрын
I like the two different reactions to the unknown: Greg put aside differences with baradun to find comfort in the shared discomfort, while baradun sought comfort in the familiarity of pattern in their normal dysfunctional relationship.
@funfromabove9728
@funfromabove9728 Жыл бұрын
I'm not hard of hearing but I do regularly watch stuff with CC on so I can keep the volume low and I have to say I really appreciate when a KZfaq channel goes the extra mile and creates subtitles. KZfaq's subtitles are alright but having written out sentences is nice. You guys are legends.
@thebosstex1172
@thebosstex1172 Жыл бұрын
I like how Greg went from “How rude!” to “What the heck is going on here???” 😂😂😂😂
@anubis12321
@anubis12321 Жыл бұрын
The look on Greg's face when he's holding the ring that Roan takes is like "wtf am I holding a ring right now and why am I giving it to this adventurer..." Hilarious! great work guys.
@Elenrai
@Elenrai Жыл бұрын
To this day I find Two Worlds 1 to be the best example of critical thinking from a RP angle so far, the simple fact you can beat the game by simply rallying the local villagers and beat the crap outta the boss utilizing angry peasant mobs, is by far the most underrated piece of accidental genius in game design and speedrunning!
@delta_glider4362
@delta_glider4362 Жыл бұрын
>Greg's face when he's holding the ring that Roan takes is Greg also start the sentence "It's one of a kind" mean it's a quest reward.
@capp00
@capp00 Жыл бұрын
I laughed maniacally throughout the entire video. The total confusion on Greg's face the entire time as random crap is happening, and then Baradun flying him the bird. That was fantastic!
@lowgrs1
@lowgrs1 Жыл бұрын
oh man I was too.. soooo funny and so true.
@SMILEY460MS
@SMILEY460MS Жыл бұрын
This is why an npc should never take drugs or in another term "stimulants".
@zaub1
@zaub1 Жыл бұрын
Skip
@bradwoodard8289
@bradwoodard8289 Жыл бұрын
Putting the video on slow playback and reading the job titles of the people in the credits is worth it.
@Cipher_8
@Cipher_8 Жыл бұрын
@@bradwoodard8289😆 'global localisation manager' sounds like a difficult job
@charlespecaut303
@charlespecaut303 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I think my favorite part of this whole video is when he keeps saying "skip!" over the "like and subscribe" spiel. What a great cherry on top. Lol.
@SanjayMerchant
@SanjayMerchant Жыл бұрын
Man, when he masters running backwards, his times are going to be *insane*.
@imtheonewhoaskedlol
@imtheonewhoaskedlol Жыл бұрын
WA-WA-WA-WA-WA-WA-WA-WA-WA-WA-HOOOOOO
@jerrjohnpresti
@jerrjohnpresti Жыл бұрын
WHAT
@peterooney8295
@peterooney8295 Жыл бұрын
I nearly burst my sides laughing at this. Almost as much as Rowan designing his own character.
@bobsponge1877
@bobsponge1877 Жыл бұрын
SKIP
@denzelsmith9938
@denzelsmith9938 Жыл бұрын
Imagine you do this in borderlands and dark souls games that would be crazy
@MrDrageno
@MrDrageno Жыл бұрын
This is hands down one of your best skits, I absolutely lost it at Rowan turning into a rocket. Very well made.
@hardanheavy
@hardanheavy Жыл бұрын
One of your best skips, surely?
@Katharina-rp7iq
@Katharina-rp7iq Жыл бұрын
I was hoping we would see him wiggle into a wall, too.
@VivaLaDirtLeague
@VivaLaDirtLeague Жыл бұрын
Speed rocket Rowan 😎
@bobosims1848
@bobosims1848 Жыл бұрын
This is the most hilarious thing to date that I've seen from you guys... Brilliant!
@carloshbello
@carloshbello Жыл бұрын
Then you haven’t watched the one about the puppy “infestation” 😂 look it up
@bobosims1848
@bobosims1848 Жыл бұрын
@@carloshbello Yeah, I did, but only AFTER having seen the one above! That puppies quest was SICK! I'm more of a cat person, but I was still horrified at the thought of smashing those cuties...
@Jbb7272
@Jbb7272 Жыл бұрын
We need this speed run with the perspective of the other npcs
@Stratelier
@Stratelier Жыл бұрын
"My friend never listens to me. Whenever I talk, he just --" *SKIP!* "-- oh no, not you too!" - Some NPC somewhere
@calebowens693
@calebowens693 Жыл бұрын
Or a normally tough boss who the speedrunner easily kills with a glitch that makes the fight easy.
@MasterNadorPUBG
@MasterNadorPUBG Жыл бұрын
Rowan saying Greg's lines and skipping them is next level!
@murray821
@murray821 Жыл бұрын
When you played the game countless times you know every line 😂
@austinlee5391
@austinlee5391 Жыл бұрын
Could have saved himself some seconds by skipping sooner.
@a_wild_Kirillian
@a_wild_Kirillian Жыл бұрын
@@austinlee5391, the game soft locks if you don't wait for the line to finish.
@megaturon1212
@megaturon1212 Жыл бұрын
Due to a coding oversight, that particular line has no skip promt so you need to finish the line then skipping the rest of the dialouge
@ae_sko88
@ae_sko88 Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to see Greg and Baradun again… feels like it’s been forever since we’ve seen the OG crew. This episode felt like the old days of NPC man and I absolutely love it EDIT: I’m already aware of the DND channel. Seen it since day one. But it doesn’t have the same feel as the OG NPC man days, like this episode did.
@tannyart6408
@tannyart6408 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 🥺
@macmcleod1188
@macmcleod1188 Жыл бұрын
Yea. I'm most invested in NPC man. It's my favorite.
@Zakudohn
@Zakudohn Жыл бұрын
If you want more azerim can check the DND campaign using all their npcs as pcs (ironically) and batman (bob)
@Loganedward29
@Loganedward29 Жыл бұрын
They have over 100 episodes of DND with those characters on the other channel.
@Seb_Semos
@Seb_Semos Жыл бұрын
and the little music in the beggining, just missing the outro 😁😁😁
@huntersiagames6028
@huntersiagames6028 Жыл бұрын
All glitches used in this video: 0:07 “Intro clip skip”, To do this: Press esc and equip your sword which should move you slightly closer to Greg, allowing you to skip the into cut-scene. 0:21 “Sword Thrust running”, To do this: Hold sword thrust to build up your sword thrust then release it and at the same time spam the run button and this will make you character sprint at 2x the normal speed for 10 seconds. 0:28 “Comet launching”, To do this glitch you must be very precise: First you need to open the shop to buy a horseshoe; This will allow you to push Greg out of the way, Then put Greg’s bucket on your head and stand in the same spot as him and because the GUI was closed the game will try to move Greg back to his original spot making him collide with you and the bucket at the same time which will launch you whichever direction the bucket is facing. 0:56 “Extended dialogue skip”, To do this: Enter Greg’s dialogue from the side and exit the dialogue by pressing B which will make the game panic and instead of re-doing the dialogue it will completely remove it. 1:00 Unnamed: Using the horseshoe we got from Greg we can simply place it around our head which will collide with us in such a way (similar to a comet launch) that we go fast enough to be in multiple places at the same time so the game fixes that by teleporting you to the nearest spawn point which, if you did it right, would be right next to the boss 1:10 “Fast-Travel launching”, To preform this glitch you need to have the previous comet launch stored and fast-travel to anywhere (In this case the Darklands) and once you travel there you’ll launch at high speeds facing the direction you teleported. 1:20 “Extended comet launching”, To do this: Go to the old lady in the pots shop and preform a comet launch by pushing her out of the way (She isn’t anchored so you don’t have to do anything) and putting the “Short flower pot” on your head which is very similar in shape to the bucket but it has an outer lip causing you to be able to control where you move (In this case we’ll be comet launching to High Sorcerer Baradun)
@ADHDIIncarnate
@ADHDIIncarnate Жыл бұрын
This is incredibly well made, both the script and the editing. Edit: I also just realized that all the dialogue and mission scenes we see here actually have correlation to things we have seen in other videos.
@bobsponge1877
@bobsponge1877 Жыл бұрын
SKIP
@emilyp.4100
@emilyp.4100 Жыл бұрын
So true :D
@Agus-fw7dl
@Agus-fw7dl Жыл бұрын
Yeah, look at the comet ☄️
@tolich3
@tolich3 Жыл бұрын
And credits too.
@alexandrenunesdeoliveira9417
@alexandrenunesdeoliveira9417 Жыл бұрын
Damm right
@LostOnceLefthanded
@LostOnceLefthanded Жыл бұрын
Baradun flipping Greg off was so wholesome. I hadn't even realized how much I had missed this. Thank you for making my day! ♥️
@drunkbeaverproductions
@drunkbeaverproductions Жыл бұрын
Thats how he says hello! LOL
@theq86
@theq86 Жыл бұрын
I get my regular dose of Greg abuse at the VLDL DnD channel, but its nice seeing it on the main channel again after a long time.
@Diana-whathappenedin97
@Diana-whathappenedin97 Жыл бұрын
Wait, when did their beef start?
@Callypso32
@Callypso32 Жыл бұрын
fits perfectly as i got my mug yesterday... Did i show you this? XD
@Torskel
@Torskel Жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for Greg sometimes, he is so confused now, hugs Greg !
@joaohenriqueneuhaus2023
@joaohenriqueneuhaus2023 Жыл бұрын
Their animation budget raised a lot...
@Boleslav4
@Boleslav4 Жыл бұрын
Rowan is the ultimate gamer. It was only last week when he learned about the detective mode and now when he has this final piece of the puzzle, he can fully use all the game mechanics to do a glorious speedrun. He did try before, but got stuck for hours trying to solve the Honeywood murder.
@nekomarinyan1398
@nekomarinyan1398 Жыл бұрын
Wait, there's a feature that let's you finish that quest faster?!
@DarthTwilight
@DarthTwilight Жыл бұрын
You're reading too much into it. He found this on GameFAQs.
@TylerZeta
@TylerZeta Жыл бұрын
Don't forget way before that he was able to pet a dog that wasn't coded to be pet.
@DarthTwilight
@DarthTwilight Жыл бұрын
@@TylerZeta He'zh becoming too powerful.... He musht be shtopped at all coshts.
@yoshi425
@yoshi425 Жыл бұрын
Oh my god the production value has SKYROCKETED, this is so damn good!
@VivaLaDirtLeague
@VivaLaDirtLeague Жыл бұрын
Get it - skyrocketed 😂
@Preston241
@Preston241 Жыл бұрын
Just found you guys yesterday. I am now completely caught up on Epic NPC Man. Great content fellas! You've come along way in a few years.
@CollinGerberding
@CollinGerberding Жыл бұрын
go back and watch the Guess Who one.
@Preston241
@Preston241 Жыл бұрын
@@CollinGerberding lol damn thanks
@MainDoorFrames
@MainDoorFrames Жыл бұрын
Npc: Breathes Protagonist: SKIP
@Jud1cator
@Jud1cator Жыл бұрын
This is pure genius, literally exactly how speed runners act. "SKIP!"
@artyhedgehog
@artyhedgehog Жыл бұрын
I think you -
@user-fg9oy3uo3h
@user-fg9oy3uo3h Жыл бұрын
They can’t do that with God of War III. Forced to watch all cutscenes.
@blasterdush4998
@blasterdush4998 Жыл бұрын
@@user-fg9oy3uo3h in darksouls they would restart to open doors faster
@exzobree9158
@exzobree9158 Жыл бұрын
@@artyhedgehog SKIP!
@anbu713
@anbu713 Жыл бұрын
I never thought we'd get an epic npc man speed run, this was awesome
@Vartazian360
@Vartazian360 Жыл бұрын
You guys should do a second version of this. I keep watching this its so good lol
@frequentsee3815
@frequentsee3815 Жыл бұрын
When they both say the line in tandem & the NPC is like wtf
@michaelscaplis
@michaelscaplis Жыл бұрын
And Baradun remains consistent towards Greg 😂
@bobsponge1877
@bobsponge1877 Жыл бұрын
SKIP
@badstreff
@badstreff Жыл бұрын
I swear Alan had to look away to avoid laughing!
@richardmahn7589
@richardmahn7589 Жыл бұрын
Rules: Run ends when Baradun flips off Greg
@FaultAndDakranon
@FaultAndDakranon Жыл бұрын
Baradun is very boring like that. Calls himself smart, bored and unimaginative.
@stefansneden1957
@stefansneden1957 Жыл бұрын
Love the reference to their dnd campaign
@that_kid_nobody_notices
@that_kid_nobody_notices Жыл бұрын
1:41 "-thank you for the sub" a nice little cherry on top
@PebkioNomare
@PebkioNomare 4 ай бұрын
I love how the developer tried to defeat this method by hiding a flag inside of a random bit of dialogue. If you skipped over the flag, it would purposefully slow you down by adding in a quest stage where you had to maintain a lover's relationship score with Greg for one in-game week. It took the community just five hours to find the flag after "Dragons of Smaugenrog". It might add a few seconds to let that part play, but it beats all the time it takes going through the motions of getting Greg's score that high and then using the time jump function six times in a row.
@Jenifer_R_
@Jenifer_R_ Жыл бұрын
I never stopped to think if I was being rude every time I skipped an NPC. He could have been waiting his entire life to tell me of the potions I will need in order to traverse the Badlands.
@rythmiccoma2809
@rythmiccoma2809 Жыл бұрын
You know it's a real speedrun cause he purchases a single horseshoe for a bizarre interaction that completely unmakes the laws of physics
@TheHappyKamper
@TheHappyKamper Жыл бұрын
Whoever does your CGI killed it in this one. Seeing Rowan zooming across the sky like that was amazing. I love that he did the bucket on head as a hack to make that happen.
@songweaver6076
@songweaver6076 Жыл бұрын
yes!
@M.Datura
@M.Datura 3 ай бұрын
I didn't realise this when I first watched it, but according to this Greg is a vital NPC for at least the majority of the main game, and there's gotta be a reason why Baradun keeps showing up right in front of Greg's house with his teleportations. Like, other than Baradun essentially always wanting to compete with Greg. (Which to me is by definition why he will never win: the High Sorcerer picked a fight with a hamlet living garlic farmer.) Also Alan's expressions are really great; the volume matching with the confusion at "The Dragons of Schmargonrog!"
@TheT562
@TheT562 Жыл бұрын
Your team are absolutely hilarious. Love your content
@Matt-wf7ry
@Matt-wf7ry Жыл бұрын
Really didn't expect Rowan to turn into a human fireball, laughed pretty hard at that one.
@ItIsYouAreNotYour
@ItIsYouAreNotYour Жыл бұрын
End game content. You will get there one day.
@dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949
@dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949 Жыл бұрын
You mean living ballistic warhead
@murray821
@murray821 Жыл бұрын
He cheated Radahn abilities
@adam7264
@adam7264 Жыл бұрын
They did it that it looks very professionally.
@Kewlausgirl
@Kewlausgirl Жыл бұрын
Best part of it! Especially that this is only achieved by standing where Greg normally stands lol
@Rozenaut
@Rozenaut Жыл бұрын
Rowan blasting into the sky like a rocket absolutely destroyed me. Was NOT expecting that. 🤣
@cherrydragon3120
@cherrydragon3120 Жыл бұрын
That was great
@kirank287
@kirank287 Жыл бұрын
Skip
@Soinetwa
@Soinetwa Жыл бұрын
to be fair some crazy skips / glitches are used in many speedruns another fun thing i would have liked to see is the player jumping around / walking backwards / sliding around
@SomeNutzGuy
@SomeNutzGuy Жыл бұрын
Haven't watched in ages. Production value is damn good now. This one cracked me up.
@t900HAWK
@t900HAWK 2 ай бұрын
Imagine some guy just walks into your village and solves all the worlds problems in 16 minutes
@arcanemoonjewelry
@arcanemoonjewelry Жыл бұрын
The intro music with Greg's "welcome to Honeywood" seriously hit me with big time nostalgia for Epic NPC man skits. I absolutely ADORE literally EVERY piece of content you guy are putting out and I always have - but I've been a fan since the very beginning and so Epic NPC man skits just always makes me feel like I'm coming home, and please never ever stop making them. I think I have a need for a new skit with the epic and legendary Eugene cry and poor Hamish trying to sell something
@MartinFinnerup
@MartinFinnerup Жыл бұрын
This. Never has anyone else expressed my own thoughts so accurately.
@olegvolkov4456
@olegvolkov4456 Жыл бұрын
I want my "Epic NPC Man" jingle back.
@simonspacek3670
@simonspacek3670 Жыл бұрын
Epic NPC man is comedy gold. I love the old sketches, they are so real. Well, they realistically show unreal virual world, but you know what I mean.
@skypechess
@skypechess Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@zaub1
@zaub1 Жыл бұрын
skip
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what speed runners look like from my perspective.
@evegreen660
@evegreen660 Жыл бұрын
coach is here...ah internet is a small place
@mannu1221
@mannu1221 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but whenever Greg says "Who are all these people?", it really cracks me up :D
@taylansan
@taylansan 3 ай бұрын
One year after this video. Please make another speed runner video, it's awesome
@venys7261
@venys7261 Жыл бұрын
The fact he had enough time to sing a little and still get a new best time just says how good of a speedrunner he is
@Bleihagel
@Bleihagel Жыл бұрын
I think it was a part of a quest.
@michaelharder3055
@michaelharder3055 Жыл бұрын
@@Bleihagel Yup. The unskipable part of the cut scene.
@wwjnz9263
@wwjnz9263 Жыл бұрын
The last line of that song is unskippable.
@snacksnake7418
@snacksnake7418 Жыл бұрын
@@wwjnz9263 Ah, I didn't know that. I enjoy the singing cutscene so much that I've never tried to skip it in game
@OmniscientWarrior
@OmniscientWarrior Жыл бұрын
game isn't worth playing if you can't have a little fun while playing it
@TheGiantRobot
@TheGiantRobot Жыл бұрын
I like that you ended with everyone still in character.
@sadie9728
@sadie9728 Жыл бұрын
Perfect end
@TheGiantRobot
@TheGiantRobot Жыл бұрын
@@FBCGodfather They usually break character at the end, laughing or something.
@daledoback9566
@daledoback9566 Жыл бұрын
0:43 Did he just kill Baldur and start Fimbulwinter???
@daledoback9566
@daledoback9566 Жыл бұрын
0:46 Oh
@krogerman83a
@krogerman83a Жыл бұрын
The Dragons of Schmargonrog part still cracks me up lol
@12HitCombo
@12HitCombo Жыл бұрын
The most unrealistic part of this was Rowan simply running like normal in the beginning. Don't know if I've ever seen a speedrunner simply run normal like that, usually it's some kind of diagonal strafe bunnyhop or some other ridiculous thing that makes you technically move faster than normal.
@WorlWyrm
@WorlWyrm Жыл бұрын
That depends on the game, if the game does not have basic movement exploits u can abuse, you quite literally do something else that's ridiculous as hell to travel to each objective in a game. Let me take rain world for example, a game where there's ALOT of movement options (though they aren't exploits or anything, just intended game design) where you can roll, backflip, pounce after a roll, jump, pouncing (without roll) and other stuff. All I'm saying is that it depends on the game, the game has some sort of shit you can exploit to travel god knows where? Do it. Even GTA San Andreas has borderline ridiculously mind boggling strats.
@WorlWyrm
@WorlWyrm Жыл бұрын
And yes, I know this is a joke, and I'm indeed taking it seriously
@ryo-kai8587
@ryo-kai8587 Жыл бұрын
I was totally hoping for this, like the diagonal running in Goldeneye or back-stepping in Symphony of the Night
@metamod1
@metamod1 Жыл бұрын
Imagine he would do the backroll like link in ocarina of time 😁
@user-fb7ln4dw6y
@user-fb7ln4dw6y Жыл бұрын
@@WorlWyrm :O rain world mentioned
@KickUpHammyDude
@KickUpHammyDude Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a skit about Passionate Players who find almost everything and every character endearing that it seems weird to other players who skip the dialogue!
@BreakofDawn
@BreakofDawn Жыл бұрын
Oh man I feel personally attacked
@nairocamilo
@nairocamilo Жыл бұрын
There's one almost like this (Roleplayer vs. Veteran, and I think that should be a continued segment like Ben v. Rowan), but not that exactly. Could even have the other character start jaded by the profound knowledge of lore from the Passionate player, then amazed, then become jaded again by the end (but with space to grow impressed once more)
@KickUpHammyDude
@KickUpHammyDude Жыл бұрын
@@BreakofDawn Hey don't be! I'm that kinda of player too who is so enthusiatic about getting to know characters no matter how quirky they are!
@KickUpHammyDude
@KickUpHammyDude Жыл бұрын
@@nairocamilo That would be so nice too see!
@vukkulvar9769
@vukkulvar9769 Жыл бұрын
They form a party, and you need all players to skip for the skip to happen, but there's that one player who doesn't skip ever. So all the other player breath on his neck waiting for him to skip, which never happen.
@johndavidtackett
@johndavidtackett Жыл бұрын
That’s one of y’all’s best to date, ending was even better 😂
@synicle0723
@synicle0723 Ай бұрын
I love the "Cat Hearder" in the Credits, now there's an impossible job.
@mctyfun531
@mctyfun531 Жыл бұрын
Rowan is lucky that Greg didn't snap by the constant skipping or that would have been the end of his speed run.
@Elder_Keithulhu
@Elder_Keithulhu Жыл бұрын
I think the attitude is important. When Greg snapped, he was clearly being rude and dismissive. This time he was in a hurry. Also, this time he took the quest.
@digimonresearch
@digimonresearch Жыл бұрын
0:56 love that moment... It was such a good presentation of dialogue choices when speed running. Speed Runner just said what needed to be said but didn't bother listening to the responses.
@xFrostByte77
@xFrostByte77 4 ай бұрын
Discovering your channel is one of the best things to happen to me I think I discovered you once before years ago... but rediscovering it all over again as if for the first time... !!
@dragonsboon2316
@dragonsboon2316 2 ай бұрын
So true, this is my favorite skit by you guys yet
@andrewjohnson6716
@andrewjohnson6716 Жыл бұрын
The little absurd details like them singing “The Dragons of Smargenrahg” together are the added spice to these feasts.
@Aidan303
@Aidan303 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad it wasn't just Rowan running around and you guys actually included a nod to some of the ridiculous exploits speedrunners use to fly around all over the place
@thenthson
@thenthson Жыл бұрын
Gotta love a good prop fly or abh
@The_Azure_
@The_Azure_ Жыл бұрын
My mind is still blown over the fact that Parallel Universes exist in Super Mario 64... and I found that out 6 years ago.
@DaveC2729
@DaveC2729 3 ай бұрын
Greg: "Omg, my bucket can do THAT?!"
@bucketman5386
@bucketman5386 Жыл бұрын
Bro finish in 16 minutes in 2 minutes. Bro speedran the speedrun
@marenelinea
@marenelinea Жыл бұрын
As a speedrunner myself, I can say this is pretty accurate lol
@Palinghufter
@Palinghufter Жыл бұрын
As an NPC I can confirm this too.
@AstarionWifey
@AstarionWifey Жыл бұрын
Why??? 😂
@viruszyx
@viruszyx Жыл бұрын
@@hakimdiwan5101 Why do athletes run? It's fun) After all, this is a competitive sport.
@Zen-751
@Zen-751 Жыл бұрын
No
@viruszyx
@viruszyx Жыл бұрын
@@hakimdiwan5101 Athletes run to reach the finish line as soon as possible, according to the rules of a specific competition, competing in the championship with others. Speedrunners run to reach the finals as soon as possible, according to the rules depending on the category, while competing with others. It's easy to see the similarities. Well, like I said, it's fun, so a lot of viewers can also watch speedrunners in real time on streams. Just like watching sports on television, only here you are also given the opportunity to see how a person trains.
@JM-bluess
@JM-bluess Жыл бұрын
I'm more amazed that Greg, in all his sentience, was still able to keep up with which stage/mission Rowan's in.
@SCARaw
@SCARaw Жыл бұрын
You like a brother to me, SKIP!
@demonhunter4067
@demonhunter4067 4 ай бұрын
You guys are awesome. Thanks for these.
@MrReidtheRed
@MrReidtheRed Жыл бұрын
Baradun giving Greg the middle finger after saying “Hi Greg” was the icing on the cake I didn’t know I needed🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jordanfelt5978
@jordanfelt5978 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit, this is probably one of the funniest videos you guys have ever made. I absolutely love this. Thank you, I am in tears right now 🤣🤣 Rowan standing there in full gear shouting "skip skip skip!" is 👌.
@toseeupload8855
@toseeupload8855 Жыл бұрын
Almost 7 years of gameplay in the matter of 16 minutes. Congrat Rowan.
@rubennieto5311
@rubennieto5311 9 ай бұрын
I was skepctical at the beggining, but then I saw the player f*cking launghing into orbit and was like 'yeah, accurate'
@IsM1ku
@IsM1ku Ай бұрын
Nah he's throwing, accelerated backhopping into the roof would have been far faster than the bucket launch
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