How Splinter Cell: Blacklist Builds Balance for Stealth

How Splinter Cell: Blacklist Builds Balance for Stealth | AI and Games #51

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Stealth games are one of the most challenging genres to get right. You either run the risk of making it too easy and predictable, or impenetrable for only the most ardent of players. In this episode we take a look at four design pillars of AI for stealth games and how Splinter Cell: Blacklist employs them to create a balanced experience.
Chapters
[00:00] Introduction
[01:00] The Design Pillars of Stealth
[05:49] Visual Perception
[08:57] Environmental Awareness
[10:54] Auditory Perception
[13:39] Social & Contextual Awareness
[16:26] Closing
This video is based on the following publications:
- Walsh, 2014: "Modeling Perception and Awareness in Splinter Cell: Blacklist", Game Developers Conference (GDC), 2014.
- Walsh, 2015: "Modeling Perception and Awareness in Splinter Cell: Blacklist", Game AI Pro 2, Chapter 28, 2015.
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@AIandGames 4 жыл бұрын

Stealth AI is never an easy prospect in game development. You run risk of making the systems trivial to overcome, or overwhelming and insurmountable. So let's take a look at how the long-running Splinter Cell franchise has approached it in previous years. This video is something of a follow-up to episode 50 on Alien: Isolation, given there are a lot of similarities to be found between stealth and horror games. Plus stick around for episode 52 later this month as I explore one of the most successful blends of stealth and horror gaming: The Last of Us.

@Victor0328 4 жыл бұрын

Have ya ever done it on the ai on metal gear solid 5. Its quite funny to watch or watching what people could manage with the ai.

@fernado0006 4 жыл бұрын

why don’t you try hello neighbor?

@raidaz7557 4 жыл бұрын

Maybe this gets them to announce a new one 😂

@inkjazz 4 жыл бұрын

Would love to see a video about AI in racing games.

@dons9213 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent as always Tommy!

@captainconcernedsr.5360 4 жыл бұрын

This is one feature i want in a hard mode for stealth games. Ai have to report to a 'leader' whenever they detect stimulus that warrants investigation. And this leader will wait for the hunter ai to report either player contact or "all clear". This is important because if you kill the hunter before he gives the "all clear" the leader will eventually notice the radio silence and send more hunters to investigate the area previously reported for stimulus. this will make the player be more patient and careful before killing or incompacitating somebody, and it will provide more depth to the ai communication which would improve the suspension of disbelief. Ive always hated how ai would just never notice how alone they suddenly become after their coworkers fail to resume their patrol routes.

@senselesssai6828 4 жыл бұрын

Also instead of giving us easy, normal and hard version of the game give us an UI with all the options. Oh and I wish stealth games were harder. Most are way too easy even on hardest difficulties.

@CyanDreams1312 4 жыл бұрын

I remember playing a stealth game recently that was pretty good over all but it had this kind of feature lacking. Two NPC's were having a conversation at a distance where they couldnt see each other. If you do something to one while they are speaking the other will notice, but if you attack while they are not talking the other NPC would not notice they were missing. This seems like it would make sense but then I'd end up removing someone while the other is asking them a question or expecting a reply of some sort and they dont alert because the ai didnt realize the other one is gone.

@GonzoInside 4 жыл бұрын

This feature was in MGS V. If you kill investigating soldier before he will report "all clear" then HQ will alarm everyone, that something's happened to him, and more soldiers will come to check.

@splintercell4eva 4 жыл бұрын

The arkham games have this in the stealth systems. Whenever you are doing a predator level the villain will periodically chime in to see how everyone is doing and if one person doesn't answer they will order the other henchmen to check on them

@g3th_ 4 жыл бұрын

As someone said, MGSV has this. If an enemy is investigating a disturbance, HQ will call for an update and dispatch more men if there is no response. I think MGS3 had it too but I'm not sure.

@1800HUNKNA 4 жыл бұрын

Blacklist has such a special place in my heart, I'm super glad to see you covering it

@tortasatmidnight 4 жыл бұрын

[ ANUBITEK ] [ OFFICIAL ] ok? Lol far cry 2 is wayyyy better than far cry 3 but I’d rather play 3. It’s about preference

@Trve_Kvlt 4 жыл бұрын

@@AnubitekOfficial The best one is Splinter Cell on the highest difficulty with minimal HUD. Same with Ghost Recon.

@fake_butters 4 жыл бұрын

I miss the endless nights of Spies V Mercs Classic 😭😢

@Steveo3420 4 жыл бұрын

Without arguing about what the best Splinter Cell is, Blacklist has a special place in my heart too. Mostly because I felt at the time and still feel like it was the last one we'll get.

@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section 3 жыл бұрын

I am not sure if your heart is the right place for SC Blacklist. After all, you infiltrate a U.S. torture prison but not to stop the torture for good, but instead torture a prisoner yourself. After this experience it is very difficult to see my alter ego as "the good guy", let alone give this game a special place in my heart. I have enjoyed SC Blacklist as a stealth experience. But not because of but despite the very questionable political messages.

@Coypop 4 жыл бұрын

Guards see in bone-vision, But bones are covered by skin, Therefore guards can't see your bones, You are invisible.

@lcmiracle 4 жыл бұрын

Nature's most efficient camouflage.

@danksouls6128 4 жыл бұрын

dont smile

@MrTomyCJ 3 жыл бұрын

They have X-ray goggles

@endofmysteries 4 жыл бұрын

::sees dead body:: "huh, must've been the wind" that said, I had a ton of fun with Blacklist

@generic_fox43 4 жыл бұрын

I always liked sneaking up behind people and just before I grab them, I whistle, so they can turn around enough to see me before I knock them out

@generic_fox43 4 жыл бұрын

Also I found it kinda stupid they cant hear a guy get shanked 1 meter away but can hear a single footstep from 50

@nanoua27 4 жыл бұрын

Blacklist flow for stealth and combat is so fun, mixing chaos theory and conviction gameplay, it's far from perfect but i really want the next splinter cell to double down on that, it's like a John Wick scene when everything comes together in a crowded room full of enemy if you use the panther style ( stealth + lethal ) the "sandbox" levels were you fight waves of enemy was the proof it worked so well.

@mravg79 4 жыл бұрын

it is a pity that this game did not sell. But on the other hand I would rather play SC:Blacklist again and again, than seeing UBI making another empty sandbox. I recently bought the game again (originally I played it on PS3) and now with higher res, and smooth 60fps I can say it aged well. But I was disappointed as UBI needed to dumb down something in PC version in a patch. Trying to get highest Panther score - while throwing enemies out the window being on a ledge it was counted as silent takedown not silent kill. Sure you can exploit the systems in the game if you learn how but mastering ghost and panther on higher difficulty levels is still fun.

@TGP482 4 жыл бұрын

Mixes Chaos Theory gameplay? How, Chaos Theory and Blacklist play nothing alike

@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath 4 жыл бұрын

I want the next Splinter Cell to return fully to the stealth roots. That's what it's all about for me. Chaos Theory is the best Splinter Cell game by far in my opinion.

@happy5642642 4 жыл бұрын

Shame the same level of AI didnt carry over to other Ubisoft stealth genres

@TheQuatum 4 жыл бұрын

@@TGP482 Exactly, these people don't even understand the game

@deskrabbit2190 4 жыл бұрын

This game really needs more love than it gets.

@deskrabbit2190 4 жыл бұрын

@Ish guy agree. I still play the spies vs mercs.

@supervegito2277 4 жыл бұрын

When i originally played it, i lost the thread early on... but when i later gave it another chance... things ended up differently (and i had played the previous 5 games multiple times at that point) I still stand by the statement that Charlies mission chain SUUUUUUUCCCKS But thats about it, these days.

@vaibhavgupta20 4 жыл бұрын

has there been a new splinter cell game since black list?

@2506JJhudson1990 4 жыл бұрын

@@vaibhavgupta20 no. not yet

@StainderFin Жыл бұрын

we need to do Crown funding campaing for saga continues? Ubisoft still is not do it so community need raise!! We need new script makers and fast>>!! last i hear thry only did hd small remake of Sprintell trilogy and free save but thats all we need Seque!ll!! or new director?? Ubisoft now focus Rainbow 6 only no love of old games at all! :/

@derppmau5329 4 жыл бұрын

All the montages of people playing like John Wick made me want to buy Blacklist. After months of playing, I finally mastered playing a Predator styled John Wick. This game is hands down my favorite “stealth” game as it gives so potential for different playstyles. From guns blazing to passively avoiding enemies, the player is given the option on how they play. Playing this game last year let me explore my play style and master new opportunities. Definetly would reccomend this game if you haven’t played it yet or give it a second chance if you’re one of those die hard Splinter Cell fans.

@apawhite 4 жыл бұрын

That last point about guards going back into an idle state when they shouldn't reminds me of an earlier Splinter Cell game, Pandora Tomorrow, which had a very defined alert level system. "SECURITY STAGE INCREASED! FLAK JACKETS ON!" If I peer far back into the foggy mists of my brain sixteen years ago, it would indeed go back to idle even from maximum panic combat mode, given enough time, but we can't be too hard on a game from 2004, when even that much was more or less revolutionary.

@walale12 4 жыл бұрын

Chaos Theory expanded on that nicely, once you got to the top alert level, after donning flak jackets, then helmets, they'd start fortifying their positions, flipping over tables to provide cover etc. And your support team would cancel your secondary objectives and tell you to hurry up with the mission and get out of there.

@apawhite 4 жыл бұрын

@@walale12 I didn't actually know that last part! I always meant to try a full-assault run through CT but it's just so much fun to ghost or assassinate my way through the game instead.

@happy5642642 4 жыл бұрын

That sound when you put on the night vision never gets old

@SlayeCohen 4 жыл бұрын

I love the stealth genre, even when the game is not stealth based, but has stealth elements, i always play it stealth. Hope the "next gen" improve the way the AI handles stealth, especially when you've been seen.

@sssmoovy6019 4 жыл бұрын

m u s t v e b e e n t h e w i n d

@nakedsnake4248 4 жыл бұрын

With the new rtx graphics cards we will definitely get better AI on the next gen of games.

@marty3020 4 жыл бұрын

Crysis 2 and 3 are arguably my favourite stealth games of all time. Well, games with stealth mechanics at least, as you are more than welcome and able to go loud. But something about popping off headshots while cloaked and strategically switiching positions while your suit recharges, is so satisfying.

@cornellmitchell9982 4 жыл бұрын

I just found your page and I gotta say that I love your work. As I dive into designing AI its always challenging finding ways to make AI less deadly without making them idiots. Keep it up!

@AIandGames 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I hope the videos continue to prove useful.

@yourgudbudnel 4 жыл бұрын

Blacklist is definitely a great game, considering the technological enhancements. I'd request you to cover Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, if possible, as its AI is still amazing, and holds up even today, in comparison to Blacklist :) Great video! :)

@meyes1098 4 жыл бұрын

Not really, if you throw a bottle next to a dude in chaos theory, he will look for a bit, then forget about it. If you repeat, he repeats. In blacklist if you do it once he will forget about it, once more and he'll be aware, and a third time will trigger him to go into alert status and get his boys to look around for quite a lot of time.

@mohsinabdulshukur 4 жыл бұрын

@@meyes1098 actually in chaos theory the more you distract a guard more alert he becomes he never forgets, the ai forgets only first time thinking it was natural if you distract him second time he gets alerted and pulls out his sidearm and flashlight and be in this mode till the mission is finished

@anthonycarro5294 4 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorite games. So underrated.

@ChenAnPin 4 жыл бұрын

Was really hoping there'd be a surprise announcement for a new Splinter Cell game. Or even a remaster of older ones.

@STRING3R 4 жыл бұрын

They technically did a remaster on the ps3 but it was terrible lol

@joejoe2658 4 жыл бұрын

or a switch port.

@TomiMancini 3 жыл бұрын

They are making a new title. But its in VR. Fucking Ubisoft man

@TheeManWIthNoLife 4 жыл бұрын

THIS IS MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE STEALTH GAME!!! Although Conviction is my favorite Splinter Cell game! Really great and interesting video! I love learning about this AI stuff, even if it kind of ruins my immersion in the actual games sometimes. Same with those boundary break people.

@meyes1098 4 жыл бұрын

What I want to see in stealth games is something that's never been done: detection via silhouette. Let's consider a long hallway with lights at each end, but complete shadow in the middle. In splinter cell (and any other stealth game for that matter), if you're standing up in the middle of the shadow, you're invisible, but in reality, people from each end of the hallway would see your black silhouette projected onto the lit up walls at either end of the hallway.

@CarryPotter007 4 жыл бұрын

Bro, we got a dev on the case Clancy hire him!!!

@CarryPotter007 4 жыл бұрын

@@am1k98 I've seen the projects that they can make a big static object invisble from a specefic point of view with magnifying glass!!

@godsavant 4 жыл бұрын

I never even realized that The brightness of Sam’s shoulder light in Blacklist was a visibility meter. I played Conviction first so I didn’t even know the gradient light/dark system was a thing until I went back to Chaos Theory.

@reoencarcelado5904 2 жыл бұрын

@godsavant: May I make a suggestion? Go watch KZfaq-user "Centerstrain01"'s KZfaq-video--walkthroughs on "Splinter Cell: Stealth-action Redefined", "Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow", and "Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory". This guy's the f*cking master on showing you what Splinter-Cell games are all about. (I watched his walkthroughs before buying "Splinter Cell trilogy" on PS3 so I would-know how to play them.

@EquiliMario 4 жыл бұрын

Blacklist revived Splinter Cell for me. Great game I can recommend if you want black ops stealth gameplay

@REXanadu 4 жыл бұрын

Was really hoping the Social Context section would bring up why guards tend to have the same reaction to a single dead body compared to a mountain of fresh corpses piled up around a chokepoint where the player is camping to kill anyone within that chokepoint. Always wondered why that always happens

@generic_fox43 4 жыл бұрын

I've always found game AI interesting when its implemented correctly. With you talking about Splinter Cell and stealth games in general, I'd love to see a comparison/ showcase of the AI development between each MGS game and how intricate the systems are

@frankeeeej 4 жыл бұрын

This is like gmtk's recent videos, but more in depth and aimed at devs more than just gamers. Nice :)

@AIandGames 4 жыл бұрын

I haven't had a chance to watch GMTK's recent stealth episodes yet. Figured I'd wait until afterwards so I didn't just copy Mark. Though it was kinda funny to see we were both covering similar topics.

@Robert_K_Wolf 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video. Also thank you for choosing Splinter Cell black List as a reference point.

@cameronparkfilms 4 жыл бұрын

So underrated and short, it really needed more missions

@shayneoneill1506 4 жыл бұрын

The view-cone stealth thing lead to a really funny bug in Skyrim. In Skyrim you can usually steal stuff safely as long as an NPC isnt looking at you. Turns out you can get away with looting the whole shop as long as you throw a bucket over the NPCs head, presumably blocking their view-cone. Well of course, if he cant see you, your good to go!. Of course what the bug really was, was the fact they never thought to have the NPC complain if you throw a bucket over their head. Actually I suspect Skyrim didnt use a view cone, but rather when you stole something it traced a ray to the front of the NPCs head and as long as the ray isnt occluded, your detected.

@fishjared 4 жыл бұрын

You might want to check out the AI in Warframe. Enemies feel unremarkable on account of it being a power fantasy game, but they do coordinate with eachother in cool ways, such as grunts grouping up with and following "eximus" general units, or grouping into pairs so a rifle-wielding grunt can hide behind a fellow grunt's riot shield for cover.

@dirtybaker 4 жыл бұрын

I LOVE playing as a stealth character whenever possible. My favorite stealth games I've played are Tenchu and Far Cry 3 and 5.

@RockSolitude 4 жыл бұрын

I thought this was GMTK for a second

@K__a__M__I 4 жыл бұрын

Many of these points reminded me of examples of how _not_ to do it, especially the Hitman series...throwing a coin in a packed and pumpin' nightclub to distract a guard, or the one time i was shot to death by private security in the middle of a crowded marketplace...for turning off a radio. It is really easy to destroy every bit of immersion if you get things wrong.

@jasonthomson1761 4 жыл бұрын

I've still been playing Blacklist over the past few weeks. I have to say, it's still just as much fun. Though no one really plays it on Xbox Live anymore despite backwards compatibility, grabbing a friend for COOP is still amazing. Although the glitches can be so ridiculous, especially with partner models wiggling out like crazy or their body just sliding along the ground. Needless to say, always going to be one of my favorites. Even have the Blacklist skin on my P90 in Rainbow Six.

@DMH1999 4 жыл бұрын

Throughout my playtime of the game I have noticed that NPCs have a sort of auditory priority. if you throw a noisemaker or use a distraction camera the NPC(s) will hear only that noise for a few seconds, unless your fire an unsuppressed gun, and you can run up to them and they will not hear you. And if there are multiple NPC you can start meleeing them or shooting them (with a suppressed weapon) and they will not notice until their friend is on the ground or just about to hit the ground. They wont even hear their friend being tazed. This even works on Perfectionist - the highest difficulty. They also seem to give up a lot. Just climb something and after a solid minute of them just shooting at the window you climbed through they will leave and explore the other side of the map. Leaving you to restock on ammo or allowing you to sneak up behind all of them without trying. That last bit is especially easy if you have the Stealth Nanofiber Suit which ha stealth highest stealth rating in the game. (Also if you aim with your gun while crouched you will make little or no noise at all. Even if you have a full combat suit on. You can literally clip your weapon through a heavy's butt and he will not notice unless you deliberately bump him.

@BinarySounds 4 жыл бұрын

Our peripheal vision is less detailed but it is more sensitive to movement compared to our focused vision. This is an evolutionary mechanism that allows us to focus on the pray we are hunting but also our peripheral vision is sensitive to movement so we can sense predators moving around us. So technically it isn't realistic to make vision cones in game less sensitive to motion on the peripheral vision.

@negan2714 4 жыл бұрын

I watch your channel while grinding in Destiny and I gotta say I've learned quite a bit of how ai works in games so thank you for that. Keep up the work man.

@karanvirsingh7829 4 жыл бұрын

What are the odds that I randomly think of a 7 year old game and find an informative and entertaining video about it posted literally 2 hours prior

@nakedsnake4248 4 жыл бұрын

I beat this game on perfectionist difficulty while doing a ghost walkthrough. It is hard, but fun to work through the level. Then when you master it you can speed through it.

@CyanDreams1312 4 жыл бұрын

a great look at the mechanics behind a good stealth game's AI. Number 4 is really the ticket if you are trying to completely immerse your player in your world. The others are highly important too but you can get the first three perfect and it will still feel off if you miss number 4.

@corvettez06usa 4 жыл бұрын

I was a huge Splinter Cell fan until Conviction. Blacklist isn't perfect, but it does an amazing job in walking the IP back to its roots while carrying some of the decent things from Conviction with it. I place it way better than Pandora Tomorrow and about equal with Double Agent. Very enjoyable game.

@allendean9807 4 жыл бұрын

I felt Blacklist, anise from no Michael Ironside, had far too many daylight missions. Light and shadow are the highlights of every SC game before Blacklist. And, i enjoyed the deep shadows and stealth, as well as creating your own darkness via lights being shot out, or temporarily disabled. The daylight missions, i felt, lent more to an assault mode over hiding and being unseen, watching guard movements, and just taking it slower.

@zubayrbhyat8077 4 жыл бұрын

Very cool. Learned a good bit about stealth AI. Thanks!

@FrenziedRoach 4 жыл бұрын

I appreciated seeing the nod to the granddaddy of all stealth games, Thief, in there.

@jericoba 4 жыл бұрын

Ooooh, video chapters. Fancy!

@Marinealver 4 жыл бұрын

Agro has 5 levels for NPC behavior. Ignore: So a videogame is a program that contains both the player avatar, NPC and environments. The program always know where the player is thus the NPCs also know, but the program is telling them to ignore the player thus convincing the sense that the player is hidden from the NPC. Aware: The NPC reacts to the player in a non-hostile way. This is often used for friendly or neutral NPCs such as a shop. Suspect: The NPC is still non-hostile but it will increase its agressivness. This is where stealth component in games come in but is very brief and requires the most code for the least duration. The NPC may act like it doesn't know the location of the player (out of sight area) but will move in an are to put the player in detection area. Now the purpose of this stage is to determine if it needs to escalate to the next level often answering 3 basic questions; who is the player/NPC, what is the player/NPC doing, and where is the player doing. Aggrevated: This is also known as agro and this is the first level of hostility. Here all NPC behavior is conducted to get a tactical position against the player to attack. Fatigue: This is to simulate a NPC being stressed beyond its limit, here the NPC may run away simulating self preservation behavior, or go berserk and make a suicidal run to simulate the unpredictibality and violaatle nature of combat.

@adampsyreal 4 жыл бұрын

Such a fun game to replay, even to this day.

@holylettuce4730 4 жыл бұрын

Loved blacklist wish it was a little more like chaos theory in terms of pacing but the gameplay was so satisfying to play.

@carstorm85 4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering what a vid in this style on hitman would look like, I'm glad the 3rd vid suggestion is exactly that.

@AppaTheRottweiler 4 жыл бұрын

Ayee great stuff my dude! You have some great fids honestly just keep the grind up and you'll be super successful I know you will! Cheers! 😁

@AggressivelyMediocre 4 жыл бұрын

oof that kill @4:20. Doubt we'll see that animation for a while.

@cookieface80 4 жыл бұрын

That's not a kill, it's the knock out animation.

@spartannell 4 жыл бұрын

Better doesn't always mean smarter but more believable. It's an interesting concept that one doesn't always think about. Can go for many things in the creative fields really but really makes one think.

@billykotsos4642 4 жыл бұрын

I love this game. Cant wait for a sequel

@StainderFin Жыл бұрын

Lol? good tried? doesnt seem to happen ubisoft are focused only Rainbow 6 now unless yuu like a funded next Sprintell cell maybe they listen then?

@Rex-zm7xb 4 жыл бұрын

Watching your video and understanding the concepts reminded me more of Deus Ex:Human Revolution.

@KryyssTV 4 жыл бұрын

Other than the annoying times games have their NPCs go from alert back to idle when something serious has happened, the other thing which irritates me is when a game has the AI investigate things which are clearly caused by an intruder. The aforementioned flickering of lights off and on could be considered an electrical fault if the player has not yet been detected, but it would be seen in a completely different context if the AI knows an intruder is in the area. It's even worse when you have noise makers in a game that the AI will always investigate by walking right up to it even if this is the 5th time it has happened to the same NPC.

@Stormkryptonian 4 жыл бұрын

Can you cover metal gear V: phantom pain? To me the AI in that game felt just perfect

@Xedhadeaus 4 жыл бұрын

Until they touch a mortar. Then they have sight beyond sight.

@MichaelMcCallister097 4 жыл бұрын

When I first played that game I had to adjust to just how far enemies can see compared to the other mgs games. Your never really invisible whenever your in their line of sight.

@floydframpton 4 жыл бұрын

Still think Chaos and Pandora are better but Blacklist is a solid modern game, it’s just too easy and takes way less brain power to play. One thing I always loved was the music change in older splinter cells when for example the enemies are searching in Pandora.

@hali1989 4 жыл бұрын

thx for the video. great content

@MarcWeertsMusic 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting stuff!

@xxanimexnerdxxkelson 4 жыл бұрын

The Splinter Cell franchise was one of my first exposures to RPGs, and is arguably one of my favorite stealth games

@AceSimGaming 4 жыл бұрын

RPG?!

@RezaQin 4 жыл бұрын

I loved Blacklist as if I messed up, I could shoot it out if I had to.

@magusburro9094 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Would a video about AI in an earlier stealth game like Thief be a good idea? Your work about game AI has been awesome and insightful btw

@GeneralG1810 4 жыл бұрын

4:24 Ah the four pillars.... I know this one Machines, Concrete, Decorations and elevators The REAL splinter cell fans will get it ;D

@HateSonneillon 2 жыл бұрын

I wish there was more info on how they accomplished their group behaviors.

@Robert_K_Wolf 4 жыл бұрын

How about making a video about the games that allow you to play in both third and first person like Hitman series?

@Zeithri 4 жыл бұрын

Waiting for this game to go on sale for this summer sale.

@pricediver 4 жыл бұрын

This game Is the best game I have ever played.

@cristiancortes9 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent game...i miss Sam so much. The AI of these games are not perfect but they are among the best i have faced in the stealth genre.

@CarryPotter007 4 жыл бұрын

I can complete every single mission on proffesionalist going stealth (obviously they need to realease a new game so it would be more challenging than this), but when the mission goes loud, I just restart cuz there is no way you're gonna survive even a bullet with no armor on suit or you gonna get double tapped even if you have the best armor, so not getting spotted is the challenge and purpose of the game and I know it's from like 2013(?), so a new release would be apreaciated (En is my 2nd language don be mean ^w^)

@mgsd8564 4 жыл бұрын

What are the odds I just started replaying this .

@TieOnLeft 4 жыл бұрын

i love this game when i was a kid, lol

@SixBeark 2 жыл бұрын

the differences in stealth gameplay between this and Elden Ring are fascinating. Rather than adapting the game to a general sense of fairness and plausibility, they disregard traditional realism and instead use fairness and plausibility markers to establish the players perspective as a tarnished of no renoun vs all these bigger than life heros & monsters. As a result, the stealth systems are suuuuuuper underdeveloped (for example, the ai doesn't usually respond to light effects at all) but also you don't really notice them as much because the game has already warped your expectations regarding how the world would react to your character.

@superlukey3 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad it was pointed out that video game AI needs to be plausible and enjoyable more than it needs to be "smart" per se. A lot of people point to video game AI as a great testing ground for more practical AI and I feel that's inaccurate - an AI created to, say, autonomously do open-heart surgery, needs to always do the surgery as well as possible without exception, and indeed the point of such a machine is to be able to outclass people and do surgeries more effectively than otherwise possible. Meanwhile, an enemy in a video game *shouldn't* be as capable as possible. They should miss their shots, they should fail to pick up on some cues, they should make mistakes, because it isn't about peak performance at any given task, it's about fun. Therein lies the big discrepancy between video game characters and other forms of AI, that I think is often overlooked.

@helliant2369 4 жыл бұрын

Hah, Skyrim was a great game, but the stealth mechanics were pretty hilarious. When you mentioned how generally bad it is when AI go right back to their idle state after an alert, I instantly thought of Skyrim. It was the ultimate example of that. You could shoot an enemy right in the head and within seconds they would be back to standing around. Funny, but not good for any kind of challenging gameplay.

@CA_Hariharaniyer2023 4 жыл бұрын

You could have also talked about the AI in Deus Ex Human Revolution. That AI is also realistic.

@Deimos_Fresh 3 жыл бұрын

Blacklist did a good job with guard's AI. But there is a lot of room for improvement as features from previous games in the series are missing and other stealth games have other features as well. I'm sure it's not an easy task to include everything at once and compromises are made according do design philosophy and engine limitations. From SC1 to Chaos Theory there was constant addition of new features while some redundant or unpopular features was removed. Almost the same can be said about Double Agent to Blacklist. Ideally next game in the series should try to take as much positive stuff from Chaos Theory and Blacklist as possible and from that game continue to build a much better, feature rich stealth sequels. But knowing today's Ubisoft, Splinter Cell is probably finished. If there ever be a new Splinter Cell game, I hope at least it will be a good game.

@queelude9 4 жыл бұрын

This game needs a remaster.

@Ayaku_ouille 4 жыл бұрын

You know what they should do in a game? First of all MGSV was good with that, if you aimed at somebody with their "pants down" they shouldn't try and shoot you, that is unrealistic as fuck. But most importantly in a stealth game if somebody saw something pretty "important" like almost seeing you, they should have a % of chance to "alert" others by having random pieces of dialogue saying something like "Dude, I know I saw something, something's out there, believe me" and thus alerting others of your presence, making them more cautious.

@azordom5449 4 жыл бұрын

If only blacklist had the coop of Conviction, it would have been a 10/10

@paul88khz 4 жыл бұрын

Best way to play this game: Use cheat engine to hack your money and buy everything except the radar. Like don't even get the most basic radar. Play on realistic (highest difficulty). It's so good when you're not looking at your radar all the time to see where enemies are but you have all the best gear. I generally don't like staring at a screen within a screen. MGS5 is great because it doesn't have a radar or minimap on screen so you have to actually look at the world around you.

@milesy023 4 жыл бұрын

Classic game, I wish they brought it out on PS4.

@MrChopstsicks 4 жыл бұрын

15 hours later. 0 dislikes. What a legend.

@sense6676 4 жыл бұрын

I’m a splinter cell fan and love the games. But can someone please please tell me how to get rid of the mouse acceleration on pc? It’s negative mouse acceleration, which means that when you flick fast, your mouse gets slowed down. I tried putting reducemouselag=false in the .ini file but this didn’t work. I’m out of options, does anybody know a fix?

@blazevas8066 4 жыл бұрын

Could you do Trico from the Last Guardian??? I’m actually surprised you haven’t already

@ShinobiTCG 4 жыл бұрын

is there a discord to play blacklist multiplayer?? I just bought it during the sale :P double agent was my old time favorite game

@thewhitewolf58 4 жыл бұрын

I do find truth stealth games do this its not insta fail when spotted not the 3 strikes and your out but rather you damage easily so can fight back but not get hurt enough where you ignore stealth and go cod on it

@hazrod13 4 жыл бұрын

we need a new splinter cell pleaaaaaase

@aidancoutts2341 4 жыл бұрын

This is the 6th entry, not seventh. They are: Splinter Cell 1, Pandora Tomorrow, Chaos Theory, Double Agent, Conviction and Blacklist

@thearchitect_9553 4 жыл бұрын

There were two versions of Double Agent, released for different generation consoles, maybe Blackllst is considered the seventh using this approach?

@AIandGames 4 жыл бұрын

Splinter Cell: Essentials from 2006. It was on the PSP, which is why everyone forgets it ever existed.

@aidancoutts2341 4 жыл бұрын

Double agent on the ps2 gen included missions from essentials, i wouldnt consider it a main entry. Or are we including gameboy entries too? And mobile games?

@d.maxwell8669 4 жыл бұрын

Blacklist is the first splinter cell game I played and I loved it. Before this, all I played was the metal gear games. Stealth in blacklist was dynamic and more tricky than other stealth games. I am honestly dumbfounded on all the blind rage people have against this game.

@atlas42185 4 жыл бұрын

It's old splinter cell fanboys who think being "OG" makes them better than others. The game allowed you to choose non-stealth approaches, which pisses off the ppl who've been playing the game before SC offered more than just a stealth experience.

@arcadealchemist 4 жыл бұрын

sam fisher still Michael Ironside right? cos i can't play it with any other voice now.

@SandmanURL 4 жыл бұрын

I kinda want to play it again but older Ubi games are so broken on PC

@OId31 4 жыл бұрын

I recently got it on PC and it runs pretty well. I have to say that it's one of the better ubisoft ports, aside from the occasional frame stutters. It's locked to 60 fps, but you don't really need more.

@jellomanjello 4 жыл бұрын

I didn't mind Blacklist gameplay....when you played the panther playstyle. I have a few criticisms of the game, but only because I love the franchise and genre so much. Obvious critisms aside, it was actually quite fun to play though. My biggest gripe with the game is that the level design felt like an Arena filled with enemies. I could never quite get immersed in the game like I did with many of the others.

@Elnuir 4 жыл бұрын

Who have ever played 30 level of spree should that stealth is not option, because guys with shields starts shoot u anywhere you are. They are just shooting in a wall towards to your direction. There's also a lot of ridiculous levels with over 30 operators of drones, or waves with just 50 dogs which kills u almost instantly. And if u try to kill dog, she instantly calls her owner by radio, because script of dogs same as enemy's. And if dog is noticing u u already "have been noticed", aparrantly u lose stealth points

@ba-bakana4490 4 жыл бұрын

Zero dislikes? I hope it stays this way XD

@panda_commanda 4 жыл бұрын

how do you not have more subscribers.

@AIandGames 4 жыл бұрын

I hear this a lot...

@panda_commanda 4 жыл бұрын

well you deserve to hear it a lot

@isaacg2886 4 жыл бұрын

Do GTFO. It has a pretty interesting ai detection concept

@swiftyxrd 4 жыл бұрын

1 part of me wants a new Splinter Cell game but another part knows Ubisoft will probably mess something up.

@CErra310 4 жыл бұрын

they should just release mappacks for blacklist. all that game needs is a bunch of missions that play well and don't have stupid explody setpiece bullshit at the end

@julianviefers6703 4 жыл бұрын

Two issues with blacklist: -Not much replay value of campaign and coop mission(besides charlies) due to the guard location/numbers (almost)always being the same -mission areas are a bit to small leaving rarely ever room for multiple approaches.