That’s because icon is a milestone character not DC. Just like static shock.

Long as the TV show has an extremely high budget I'm down. If not then the movies definitely the best option!

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He's stronger he hits harder than DARKSEID according to supes himself

@@JJoh4040 Yeah, that punch he gave Superman was insane and badass at the same time.

I agree with you

Him and Spawn are tied on Capes lol

Long as it's high budget! With 60 Fps!

nall with dwayne mcduffie dead we would never get the level of content as justice league or Justice league unlimited... instead we would get young justice season 3 a buncha fucc ass sjw bullshit politics preceding over the core ethic of it being a good show trying to seduce chldren into homosexuality...

He certainly is my child.

I agree but I would rather see them team up

Why are you advocating for "black on black violence"? LMAO

I'm go with BM... for the win

Hell him vs Superman would be a hell of a fight he would give him as great a fight as a doomsday

@@mitchellaimss1924 me too

Literally was thinking that DCU should make a solo movie on him or Static Shock original milestone comic characters.

If they do I need high frame rates lol need some smoother animation fights for newer stuff lol

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Can you do a update video about Black Adam?

What major feats he got new?

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable idk, since your last one was like 2 years old, but honestly I ask for that because that movie of him coming out soon.

Yup 💪🏾💯

He is also vulnerable to metal that can send him to coma the same metal that the body of mr Benedict lord is made of

There's so many characters that are up there with the powerhouses but since they lack appearances people just assume they're weak just because they don't show as much stuff. When that's clearly not the case. There's writer intent for them to be up there with the powerhouses regardless of them lacking showings.

​@@IvaNTheUnStoppableI tend to focus more on trying to garner support for &encourage discourse around milestone existing in an independent space.. power listings are meaningless if they can't get ongoing runs &if the business side is funny &they can't greenlight movies or cartoons or toys etc We need our own superhero spaces instead of constantly waiting for DC &Marvel to cater to us or give us some scraps It shouldve been OBVIOUS from day one that Icon is THE superman of his world &as such is the premier power the king daddy up there with the kal els the sentrys (speaking of which we bout to have an Asian superman before we get a black one) the omniman or homelander etc.. As brilliant as McDuffie was (RIP/PBUH) the fact Icon didn't headline milestone &was named Icon &was given a backstory stripping him of all agency or the fact that some baseline cop could hurt him in his first issue was a lowkey sign of a collective inferiority complex we still have strong traces of even today in 2023 &NEED to get rid of. Expeditiously.. Icon needs to be up there with superman or Black Panther in black fandom.. that's what I want for him going forward.. but for that Milestone NEED to get away from DC.. or they'll continue to be second fiddle So keep doing what youre doing keep pushing it out there keep honing your content the more of us learn about these heroes the closer we get to the dream of milestone one day being in the position marvel studios was circa 2008

Not really a fan of Milestone being stuck under DCs roof or this cheap half-assed presentation That said here's my Milestone Media Cinematic Universe fancast *MAINS* ICON - Will Smith/Idris Elba ROCKET - Coco Jones OBLIVION/Benedict Lord - Charlize Theron/Matthew McConaughey STATIC - Caleb McLaughlin DUSK - Zendaya Frieda Goren - Odeya Rush Larry Wade - Aubrey Joseph Robert Hawkins - Sterling K Brown Mrs Hawkins - Cassandra Freeman THINK-TANK (Hardware) - MBJ/Jonathan Majors BRAINCHILD (Technique) - Lashana Lynch/Meagan Good REPRISE - Jai Courtney Blood/Force Syndicate WISE SON/WHITE WOLF - John Boyega/Trevante Rhodes TECH-9 - Antony Ramos/Rome Flynn FADE - Jeremy Pope FLASHBACK - Laura Harrier/Paige Hurd 3rd RAIL - Ross Butler BRICKHOUSE - Simone Joy Jones/Dylan Gonzalez AQUAMARIA - Alexa Demie/Lindsay Morgan/Cierra Ramirez MASQUERADE - Ashley Romans *MISC* ANANSI - Damson Idris XOMBI - Steven Yeun/Charles Melton STELLAR - Marsai Martin (Stella Maxwell/Starlight) DEATH WISH - Jackie Earl Haley Heroes Inc. IRON BUTTERFLY - Cynthia Khalifeh/May Calamawi/Razane Jammal/Naomi Scott/Luna Mansour IOTA - Keisha Castle-Hughes/Frankie Adams/Megan Gale DONNER - Elizabeth Debicki/Laura Berlin/Slyvia Hoeks BLITZEN - Sonoya Mizuno/Shioli Kutsuna/Sumire Mataubara PLUS - Verada Sethu/Freida Pinto *VILLAINS* EDWIN ALVA - Chris Pine (bearded long haired Tech Brogul elon musk archetype quite adept at using other ppls genius to his own benefit etc) HOLOCAUST - Yahya Abdul Mateen II/Trevor Jackson (hood En Sabah Nur archetype.. believes only through strife &the baptism of fire can the worthy be made whole etc) HOT STREAK - Tyriq Withers/Cam Monaghan (brash jake paul archetype &confused racist who uses AAV &is a wannabe influencer... attempting to be an agent provocateur by smashing stores &tagging buildings "free shit here" after the big bang riots kicked, in order to be accepted into the neo nazi gang sons backfired when he was cornered &hit by quantum gas) EBON - Aubrey Joeseoh RUBBERBAND MAN - Trevor Jackson TOWER FAMILY - evil fantastic four pastiche behind a global X-Files level conspiracy to suppress technology advancement &certain races on earth for their own gain &possibly at the behest of intergalactic power brokers

That's a nice way of looking at it!

Yeah I might actually have to try to get back into Young Justice because that junk was giving me the snoresville LOL

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable eh tbf it has kinda lost its touch but it’s not bad(at least not to me)

I always try to watch Young Justice and end up losing interest like halfway in the episode LOL

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable lmao😂

No problem

Nope, it's stupid

That doesn't seem like the new writer respects previous lore.

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@@princewya It's a reboot for a reason. They respect the origins of the original, but expand upon it. For example, they show him trying to stop slavery but quickly realize the inevitability of it. Dwayne hinted at it in the OG series, but never went in-depth with that storyline. Don't get me wrong. The core origin is still intact, just slightly modified. He's no longer a human/Terminan mutate, but instead a shape shifting alien with similar powers to Kryptonians on top of the original continuity's powers/abilities. He still meets Rocket the same way, he still has his skepticism about revealing his powers to the world, etc.

@@Shng275 Icon killing off the head of the Confederacy only to be “killed” by another alien posing as a white supremacist isn’t “expanding” or respecting upon the source material. It’s rewriting it. On top of that Kryptonians aren’t supposed to exist in Milestone’s universe....but the guy writing it doesn’t care about continuity and wants to put in whatever

They better not

I’m pretty sure that guy went over to Fernando’s Channel

Okay yeah I remember him.

He was the bane of my existence for a while ngl

@@damonthecustodian27 na I don’t see him there

Glad u enjoying yourself!

That was actually in the "Justice League and Shadow Cabinet" crossover event. Icon had joined the Shadow Cabinet's team temporarily as they invaded the Watchtower to steal an important artifact. Icon "struck" Superman to stage a "fight" between he and Superman but the resulting blow not only knocked Superman out of the watchtower into outer space but it ALSO lead Superman to state "It was the hardest he'd EVER been hit." This would include Darkseid, Doomsday, etc, etc, etc.......

@@MrLJ1819 that was a gud one!!!Icon didn't hold back well lol

Ye I pretty much showed that in this vid

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable I definitely missed that, my bad.

Supes "did" try, though - in Icon #16. His plan was to knock Icon out and win their fight and then help BOTH his universe and Icon's "Dakotaverse". The being known as "Rift" basically refereed the fight. This comic, Icon #16, was listed in Ivan's video above. This comic was ALSO a part of the epic crossover event for Milestone's (DC) universe (Dakotaverse) to eventually merge into Superman's universe and continuum. This crossover event spanned Steel's comics, Superboy's, Static's, Hardwares, Blood Syndicate's, and a few other comic books as both universes merged. The total comic count was around 15 if I recall. This helps to explain how Icon, Rocket and even Hardware existed in Young Justice.

@@MrLJ1819 Yeah but rebirth Superman is just a bit too much with the crazy feats he has displayed, High outerversal to even boundless. He has consistently had better feats than Icon and people forget Superman always holds back to an insane degree. Most heros do but Superman is kinda on a different level and is mainly portrayed that way more than most other heros. It's been confirmed even sub consciously he hold back and it physically affects him.

@@brandoncruse8532 Oh I agree with you, mostly. We also have to realize that Icon, in this particular comic, is holding back as well - in Icon #16. If you are fortunate enough to read the entire comic (GREAT READ, btw) you'll notice something very important. Icon is matching Superman blow for blow until the very end. You'll notice - at the VERY END of their fight right before Rift breaks them up - that Icon's fist is imbued with his Positron power. He's already used his Positron blast once during their fight and it knocks Superman out temporarily. But this glowing fist of Icon's does NOT make contact with Superman because Rift stops the fight before Icon lands this potentially crucial blow. Rift then goes onto explain - "Neither of you will ever yield to the other, so I'm stopping this fight." I truly wonder what would've happened if Icon landed that Positron-infused BLOW on Superman. He'd only used his Positron BLASTS on Supes until now........ I've seen some write ups on Icon's use of his Positron energy blasts and I've read that it's compared to ION ENERGY - the same wavelength that Lanterns use. In his comics, he rarely uses it. But when he DID use it, it stopped whatever he used it on. Here is a GREAT video describing Icon's Positron energy ability: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q8xjjM16mpipoH0.html As far as Superman? Oh I've personally read on many of his feats. He's been written VERY WELL over the course of his comic life, in regards to feats. I personally wonder if he's ever been written using BOTH his heat vision AND his frost breath simultaneously. I also recall a comic where Supes and Hal Jordan teamed up to actually MOVE Earth out of harm's way - with GL constructing a planet-sized pulley device and Big Blue using that device to move Earth out of harm's way. Pretty incredible stuff. This just goes to show you - these characters, Icon and Superman - are equal. That's the point of Icon #16 and I think that for the writers it was important on a Social level to make them equal, which I believe is right. Icon - in the hands of the same writers as Superman - would be as good as Superman. It's ALL ABOUT the writers. If a writer CARES enough then good things happen.

I've done gladiator, hyperion, lobo, Captain atom, blue marvel, sentry, Hercules, Orion, Shazam, Black Adam already

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable i just watched them sorry for the mistake and thank you for the videos keep up your movement King

He's stronger he hits harder than DARKSEID according to supes himself

@@JJoh4040 yet he gets no shine? Smh static for more shine than him

We both win either way cause I love both

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable in your opinion who's back story makes for a better movie?? I'm going with BM on this one.

Sorry I could not edit my last message and I just noticed that you saw it saw what I said but it is going to be a temporary suit also know if you see this but you are my favorite youtuber I wanted to do something like this since I read my Spiderman encyclopedia and I think it is cool that you have made videos on questions I have about characters so thanks

Thanks for the kind words! There's a lot of KZfaqrs out here and for you to say I'm your favorite. That means a lot!

good scaling and video on icon

casually multi solar system to galaxylevel

multi galaxylevel to universal plust to low multiversal to multiversal level

Idk how this guy is rated for durability but YES some people don’t get that durability HAS to scale with strength otherwise you’d be breaking yourself when attacking.

Icon is far more durable than you think, he's just not as extremely durable to borderline invulnerable as Superman is, Icon is nigh-invulnerable. He's tank hits from a serious, battle ready Superman and endured his intense heat vision attacks as well, so yeah.

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Icon's durability is based on how aware he is and if he is flexing to withstand it. kinda like Goku being hit by Krillens rock throw or being shot by a lazer is Resurrection F

Icon can be hurt but it takes a lot he's very durable

Buddy I don’t see Icon fighting Superman before being bought by DC

@@michaelgarcia5680 characters are always made weaker in DC Comics universe than there own especially next to Superman

@@theallmightyisblack3339 Superman is a beast I don’t know why that means Icon is weak

So you didn’t watch the vid?

In the comics Icon actually admits to Superman being "Physically Stronger" than he. But - as we saw in Marvel with Hulk and Stormbreaker Thor - physical strength doesn't always make one more "Powerful" than the other. What matches Icon with Superman is Icon's Positron Energy manipulation. In Icon #16 he uses it to literally knock Superman out momentarily.

@@winningblack5112 for real man Icon is definitely stronger

It's definitely unfair but hey. Life is unfair it does suck seeing channels that don't do as much work succeeding by a hundred fold but hey I'll get there eventually! And yes I agree if you're not a celebrity. Growing on KZfaq is probably one of the toughest things which is part of the reason why I've expanded my platform to tik tok as well It's crazy how much easier it is to grow on tiktok versus KZfaq

@@IvaNTheUnStoppable I agree

They never once "dabbled in making him Kryptonian" because he wasn't originally even a DC character.. so idk where u got that info from