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How Strong is Wano Roronoa Zoro?

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Steinixos

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►Timestamps are below:
00:00 - Introduction
00:19 - Fishman island to Zou/WCI
02:18 - Wano Zoro Warm Up
03:40 - KDL Zoro (Kaido Damaging Level Zoro)
05:30 - KSL Zoro (Kaido Scarring Level Zoro)
06:59 - KDL Zoro Vs Flame-OFF King
09:56 - Awakened (Close to KSL) Zoro Vs Flame-OFF King
12:18 - Awakened (Close to KSL) Zoro Vs Flame-ON King
14:21 - Summary of Zoro's Attack Potency
15:00 - Conclusion

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@loony5549
@loony5549 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I missed you alot LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!! But I hope you're okay and in good health in life :)
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much man
@rohitsardar8461
@rohitsardar8461 Жыл бұрын
You can't change the fact people love Zoro more than any character in One piece 🤣🤣🤣
@PoH27
@PoH27 Жыл бұрын
​@@rohitsardar8461uh
@tamas975bsth
@tamas975bsth 2 жыл бұрын
Please do one for Kid. People like to downplay him without knowing how magnetism works.
@JusDion
@JusDion Жыл бұрын
He's no magneto. I like him too but with his attitude he'll never find a haki mentor. Mihawk said it best, the most dangerous ability is to rally ppl by your side. If Luffy never met Rayleigh or hiyogoro he would never have learned/mastered haki and lord knows Kidd's haki is garbage.
@incription
@incription Жыл бұрын
the level of kids magnetism is strong enough that he could kill people instantly by manipulating the iron in their blood, Does he do that already?
@NekMinuteG
@NekMinuteG Жыл бұрын
​​@@JusDion Yeah you can say that but look...people figure out Haki themselves and Kid definitely was using Armourment with his Awakened devil fruit, strong enough magnets to stun big mom. He also was the one who Blasted big mom to hell, both law and kid broke Big mom's bones and we've seen she's almost invincible. you downplay kid because of haki and yet Kids interest must be peaked after seeing luffy hurt kaido.
@davidortiz3094
@davidortiz3094 Жыл бұрын
@@JusDion Haki improves in real battle. Not training
@Bon-Kaizer
@Bon-Kaizer Жыл бұрын
@@NekMinuteG kid wasn’t using haki against bm,just head canon
@nico-ie9yj
@nico-ie9yj 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Amazing Content ! A prime example of reasonable and non-bias scaling, I’ll definitely be watching this video more than once. Keep up the good work man, would love to see more scaling videos pertaining to each One Piece character.
@ElfishGymnast30
@ElfishGymnast30 Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is amazing he should have a lot more subs than this
@marvinbray5889
@marvinbray5889 Жыл бұрын
I think his battles are fast because he doesn't hold back much on weaker enemies he isn't interested in
@unknownincognito2425
@unknownincognito2425 Жыл бұрын
I think your forgetting the part where he swore to never lose again after fighting mihawk.
@ServantofAnubis007
@ServantofAnubis007 Жыл бұрын
​@@unknownincognito2425 but he lost mutliple times after mihawk tho. Kuma, kizaru, kaido.
@Hexic920
@Hexic920 Жыл бұрын
​@@ServantofAnubis007 All three of those fights he was injured previously so they don't really count.
@raidenesp1096
@raidenesp1096 Жыл бұрын
@@ServantofAnubis007 he won’t lose a sword fight anymorez he can lose against non swordsman
@emperorluffy6001
@emperorluffy6001 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa! I was not ready for this today! Gonna give a review later but I'm REALLY looking forward to this.
@davadevinsmoke
@davadevinsmoke 2 жыл бұрын
Love the breakdown, really good to have all this Zoro info in one place 👍🏾
@haydennowak9033
@haydennowak9033 2 жыл бұрын
Really well thought out video! The baselines for comparison were really strong in this arc, and didn’t call for any unreasonable inferences!! King (and as a result, Zoro) was wayy more impressive than people give him credit for.
@luv83
@luv83 Жыл бұрын
With the Kaido clash. I think Zoro used advanced arnament and basic conqueror. Mainly because Kaido told Zoro about conqueror but had different dialogue for Luffy using advanced conq. I'm also saying basic conq because I remember seeing somewhere in an sbs that Ashura was Zoro's will. To me, Zoro manifesting an aura to straight up intimidate his opponents sounds like basic conquerors haki used in an offensive way.
@UnOc2
@UnOc2 2 жыл бұрын
now we need to see "How Fast is Wano Sanji?"
@strawhatTURZO
@strawhatTURZO 2 жыл бұрын
Bro please scale luffys bajrang gun. You are the only one that I trust on youtube when it comes to powerscaling
@Alexsamv1
@Alexsamv1 2 жыл бұрын
Finally gonna know how strong wano zoro is. (Watched it) that was some crazy good video. Love it!
@crystalaxe2440
@crystalaxe2440 Жыл бұрын
that actually confirms that king is underrated af
@GioHimonPro
@GioHimonPro 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing videos like this reminds me how strong our marimo was since the beginning of TS. Maybe its me but it seems like there is a huge agenda going on against Zoro when it comes to his feats or strength eventhough that is his main goal. Zoro is comparable to Pre G5 Luffy but people wanna lump him with Law and Kid eventhough in my opinion he is one tier above them. Hope you make one for Luffy and Sanji too. The cook is also someone who gets shade thrown at alot.
@goat5944
@goat5944 2 жыл бұрын
Bro no one's downplaying nothing. You are just too strongly on Zoro's meat. Pre Gear 5 Luffy absolutely neg diffs Zoro. Infact current Luffy is so strong that he would bully Zoro in base. "Zoro is one tier above Kid and Law" lmfao It's quite literally the opposite. Zoro is a whole tier below Kid and Law.
@adrianchriste6
@adrianchriste6 2 жыл бұрын
@@goat5944 you can think that if you want, despite all the feats proving otherwise, but odas second favorite character would never lose to luffy like a nobody, if if he loses, its at lowest high diff to extreme win for luffy. Talk about on a charactera meat...
@sahadanazary9364
@sahadanazary9364 2 жыл бұрын
@@goat5944 broski in 1v1 fight Zoro would demolish Kid and Law. And he would definetly not get washed by Luffy, he has everything that Luffy has. Swords are as strong as DF. Luffy would win high dif with 2 limbs missing.
@goat5944
@goat5944 2 жыл бұрын
@@adrianchriste6 lmfao. MF presented zero arguments and went into straight di*kriding and bringing oda's "fav" char. Y'all zorotar*ds are hilarious. Idk how anyone can be this obsessed with a fictional char. Anyways, Base Luffy washes Zoro. If you got something to prove Zoro even close to base Luffy then you are welcome otherwise take your delusionalism somewhere else.
@goat5944
@goat5944 2 жыл бұрын
@@sahadanazary9364 buddy gt fo. Kid and Law mid diff Zoro at best. And Luffy completely neg diffs. Base Luffy alone is enough to bully Zoro's assss. If Luffy start using gears,. Zoro would be erased from existence.
@josephandy21
@josephandy21 Жыл бұрын
Mind you Oden cut Dragon Kaido, Zoro cut Hybrid Kaido a more stronger and durable version of Kaido when it comes to forms
@emperorluffy6001
@emperorluffy6001 2 жыл бұрын
OK I'm super late but I just wanted to leave some small thoughts on this. I'm glad you pointed out that Zoro really hasn't been trying since the timeskip. Since a lot of morons and downplayers like to Act like cutting Pica is his strongest feat or strongest move just because it was the biggest. Anyone paying attention to the story can clearly see that Zoro was not trying AT ALL throughout the New World. It's just more of the lies we have to deal with as One Piece fans. This video actually reminds me of something Vegeta once said in Dragonball Super. "Strongest? Second Strongest? Rankings are all well and fine but they only reflect a moment in time. Once that moment has passed by it's nothing but History. Even I am stronger that I was a few minutes ago." This heavily pertains to One Piece as well since the characters always experience massive growth throughout their fights. Trying to judge Zoro's strength based on a single showing or the lack thereof isn't an accurate way to judge how strong he is. So anyone claiming that, "Zoro is only mountain lvl cuz he cut Pica" is just objectively wrong. Just wanna clarify this for anyone who might be underrating Killer, I know Killer may have lost that exchange but I don't think either fighter was at their best in that instance since Killer lacked his usual weapons and Zoro was missing a sword. Personally I would say that prior to Roof Piece, Zoro & Killer were relative. I don't know where I'd rank Zoro compared to past legends honestly because the narrative itself seems to imply he's not there yet with statements like "There will never be another Samurai like Oden" and the how shocked Zoro was that Oden actually fought while casually pouring out that much Haki into Enma seems to suggest he's not entirely on that level yet though some of his attacks can be comparable to his. When it comes to Katakuri I'd say Zoro definitely has the edge in attack power. Don't know if that would allow Zoro to actually WIN a fight against Katakuri since Future Sight and the Mochi Mochi no Mi are too versatile. It's arguable that Zoro would never even land a blow on Katakuri and would burn himself out before he had the chance to finish him off. Match ups in One Piece are interesting like that. In the end, I more or less agree with your assessment. Only difference is I see it as him just barely touching Oden level with "some" attacks. Simply because Oden was never shown to be tired with Enma at all with it's use. Meaning that Oden was just giving off that level of Haki naturally while Zoro had to risk his life to fight on that level. Which is insane.
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was thinking to include that killer didn’t have his usual weapons but I chose not to include it because him having the main weapons wouldn’t have changed his durability since from the panels he didn’t seem to get the chance to block zoro’s attack (though I could be wrong since his scythe flew up in the air). And I mean his intrinsic durability would remain the same either way (which is why I made the comparison to big mom’s lightning hitting him directly) And yeah i don’t know oden’s max. That’s why I compared ashura to oden’s attack (though in the end i did short hand it as “oden level”) And I didn’t touch on this in the video, but I Honestly think a lot of people are underestimating Zoro’s speed. Like kaido’s air slashes are so fast that most of the scabbards were not even able to fully respond to it. Yet Zoro is casually responding. Also on every single occasion (post awakening) where king traded durability for speed Zoro was able to tag him. And even though we don’t have a frame of reference for king’s speed outside of Zoro(which is why I didn’t address speed), it’s seems very unlikely to me that king isn’t at least comparable to (if not faster than) katakuri speed wise. And if you re-read the ashura attack, Zoro did seem to blitz kaido. So zoro’s speed is likely way closer to current luffy’s speed than a lot of people are thinking. But again, I generally don’t include things like this when I don’t have a clear comparative frame of reference
@emperorluffy6001
@emperorluffy6001 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steinixos Now that you mention it it probably would have been a good idea to include speed. I think it would have been worth mentioning that while Zoro isn't as mobile as someone like Sanji, Zoro's reactions and reflexes have always been insane. He's been reacting to attacks that most people couldn't even see since before the timeskip with stuff like Kuma's attacks and was the first one to pick up on Rankyaku when we first saw it. I dunno if he blitzed Kaido there I'll have to look at the scene again but it's possible that Kaido took it on purpose because he wanted to see how strong it was.
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
@@emperorluffy6001 Yeah in Retrospect it seems its always better for me to highlight these things even if I'm not making a conclusive point. and yeah just re-read the entire ashura panel very carefully and you'll see what i'm talking about. Also when you re-read it you'll see it [probably] wasn't a situation where kaido was trying to take it on purpose. Especially when you put that with the fact that Kaido already understood that he should dodge (Or generally be careful about) zoro's attacks from flying dragon blaze
@emperorluffy6001
@emperorluffy6001 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steinixos Just took a look at it and holy shit, it really does seem like Asura was able to blitz Kaido. And thats HYBRID Kaido. Crazy. Granted Kaido wasn't using Future Sight but it's still a crazy feat for a brink of death Zoro.
@tsujan3984
@tsujan3984 2 жыл бұрын
@@emperorluffy6001 Wow, already even with a few comments and responses you seem to be like a non bias (Zoro related) OP fan which is kinda refreshing. I agree about a lot of things you said and I wanted to say something about vs Katakuri even without considering his speed and reaction time Zoro also has AoE types attacks like Tatsumaki to deal with someone who is difficult to hit even though his attack stat may lower on those attack, but they were strong enough to scar Kaido and one weakness if Katakuri is his durability. So, would be tough but I think Zoro at this point can pull it off.
@Juice-iv5jx
@Juice-iv5jx 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Stein, you defintely pulled out the advanced observation to make this video! I like that the entire powerscaling discussion is based in facts from the story, it's something a lot of other videos seem to lack
@DemonAshura
@DemonAshura Жыл бұрын
Cough cough the the comments too
@333VIL_Lives
@333VIL_Lives 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@romannavarro1178
@romannavarro1178 2 жыл бұрын
Goat
@md.1276
@md.1276 2 жыл бұрын
Zoro actually one shotted king once he finally hits.
@D.Strawhat
@D.Strawhat Жыл бұрын
nah it was three attacks
@davidortiz3094
@davidortiz3094 Жыл бұрын
@@D.Strawhat King defense is superior to Kaido too. Zoro needed advanced conquerers to cut King.
@awesomeavis7861
@awesomeavis7861 Жыл бұрын
@@davidortiz3094 he also needed advanced conq to harm kaido he just didn’t know he was actually using it
@magnolia8886
@magnolia8886 Жыл бұрын
@@davidortiz3094 definitely not. Kaido was tanking heavy advanced conquerors haki from both luffy and zoro n still was barely brought down. King was one shotted by zoro
@hollowtree9763
@hollowtree9763 Жыл бұрын
@@magnolia8886 king has higher durability than kaido
@pokeballblaze9835
@pokeballblaze9835 Жыл бұрын
i feel like king turned off his flames because he knew it was better to just dodge the attacks than taking them head on due to the sheer amount of damage
@D.Strawhat
@D.Strawhat Жыл бұрын
he doesnt take damage if he leaves the flame on
@D.Strawhat
@D.Strawhat Жыл бұрын
@Aadikar Bhandari zoro landed a adv coc haki strike in his torso and it did nothing, he turned it off cuz his speed increaes when he does and he was able to blitz zoro with the speed increase but even then it was useless
@thisisme2014
@thisisme2014 2 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis video bro
@LCS1
@LCS1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video about my man Zoro! Keep doing great contents ! You've got one more follower
@gamershack7255
@gamershack7255 2 жыл бұрын
It's been soo long mate. Glad to have your upload. Gonna edit this after watching. Edit I agree with pretty much everything you said here. Tho I was expecting a specific powerlevel like multicontinental or something.
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. And for this video I didn’t want to focus on numbers. I wanted to just clear up the hierarchy for now because I’ve been seeing a lot of misconceptions going around. But I will Be doing an upcoming video where I go through the specific levels in context
@gamershack7255
@gamershack7255 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steinixos glad to hear it man, just a question do you believe - if kaido allows it and remains still - would current Zoro with his strongest move knock him out? take this question in all his modes. Base hybrid beast.
@goat5944
@goat5944 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamershack7255 Nah Zoro won't even come close. Oden was way way stronger than Current Zoro. And all he could do was give a scar to Kaido which Kaido shrugged off and continued to One Tap Oden.
@riqthelegend
@riqthelegend Жыл бұрын
I’m extremely happy I found this channel, you don’t do anything but state facts
@stevenr1036
@stevenr1036 2 жыл бұрын
Supports my claims that start of wano zoro was comparable to above end of wci luffy and in zou.
@jeffj3976
@jeffj3976 2 жыл бұрын
No
@Relax_Rombey
@Relax_Rombey 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffj3976 with Emma yes
@jeffj3976
@jeffj3976 2 жыл бұрын
@@Relax_Rombey with enma yh
@hotkoyoto
@hotkoyoto 3 ай бұрын
Really kinda wish this was more of a power scaling video instead of a general basis. Like, stats specifically. "How fast is he? Faster the sound? Faster than light? How strong is he? Where does his power cut off? What is the percentile growth increases that he's gotten over time prior to and post wano?" This video is good, great. But it's missing a lot of the statistical information i was hoping it would have.
@carldodd5428
@carldodd5428 Жыл бұрын
just a quick note king is almost invincible (defence wise) with flame on and that zoro was nerfed in the king fight but great video
@netero1682
@netero1682 Жыл бұрын
That's a bit of a misinterpretation of the events of the series. 1) The scar that Oden gave Kaido is far superior to anything Zoro did in all of Wano, Kaido included Oden in his list of top characters, not even Big mom is on the list. Oden was high Yonlo level, comparable to current Kaido. 2) There is something that the fandom, mostly Zoro fans, completely omit, and that is that on the roof, Kaido explicitly mentions twice that Enma emits haki of Oden and Big mom mentions that it is the sword that is dangerous, the second time she didn't realize it because she was distracted. How it works Enma doesn't deny Kaido's words because each aura or Haki is different, and distinctive. Only in this way could Zoro's cuts against kaido be seen, but never with the other two swords. 3) based on this misinterpretation and denial of the facts, the fandom is confused regarding the toughness of kaido and King. Against King at no time is Oden's haki alluded to as on the roof. Kaido was so strong that he covered his body with a fire that could easily be close to or equal to Akainu's magma, King didn't show something like that otherwise he would surpass Zoro. King's fire is good but not that good. 4) In the case of Luffy at the beginning of Wano and Zoro with Enma, something needs to be clarified, the mechanism is important, why do you think Zoro never cut Kaido with the other two swords? Luffy at the beginning of Wano, had a very strong hakki that gave him defense, but by not projecting it, it didn't hurt Kaido. That is to say, Zoro could have a greater attack power than Luffy due to Enma, but until then, Luffy's haki quality was superior, giving him more defense, also Luffy received the full blow to the head without any defense. .
@lawlietlawliet8671
@lawlietlawliet8671 2 жыл бұрын
Have been waiting for this 💀
@Jj-vs2gb
@Jj-vs2gb Жыл бұрын
kings underrated af
@thelonecyborg3555
@thelonecyborg3555 2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY THE GOAT IS BACK
@uriahthegreat5004
@uriahthegreat5004 Жыл бұрын
6:54 I mean Oden's attack left a much larger scar and had made Kaido flop back like Lebron James when he be playing basketball.
@Mrrikardo1997
@Mrrikardo1997 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I am of the opinion that Zoro's King of Hell power up is of the same calibre than his Ashura attack on the roof. Meaning KOH Ashura would be > rooftop Ashura. There are somethings that make me reach that conclusion, one being no haki effects being drawn around Zoro's blade on the roof when scarring Kaido. KOH is outputting > haki than rooftop ashura. That would also make sense because Zoro is not consciously outputting advanced conquerors vs kaido. I might be wrong in my assessment tho. Cheers.
@ModernFiction
@ModernFiction Жыл бұрын
proper vid fam 👍 just subbed ^
@mugiwara2268
@mugiwara2268 2 жыл бұрын
first video i saw of you, immediately subscribed
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Just found your page💯
@jeronimocastro4510
@jeronimocastro4510 2 жыл бұрын
You should do one for Sanji. People tend to throw a lot of shade at the poor guy.
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
The sanji one is out
@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL Жыл бұрын
I am so hyped for zoro’s next 1v1, at this point only shiryu, hawk eye or shanks will do.
@unknownplayer7667
@unknownplayer7667 Жыл бұрын
Nah admirals can beat him.
@unknownplayer7667
@unknownplayer7667 Жыл бұрын
Hawk eye and shanks are overkill
@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL Жыл бұрын
@@unknownplayer7667 I think at this point zoro would lose to mihawk, shanks and the admirals but it wouldn’t be one sided I think he’d give them a tough time. The only person I think he beats at this point is shiryu
@pattouco
@pattouco 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. You should do a Trafalgar Law vs Bruno Buccellati video please/ Connections are Law and Bruno is they're both Shonen anime crime lords who had an unfortunate backstory that led to them joining a group (The Donquixote Pirates Passione) and possess powers that allow them to manipulate space and people's bodies (the Op-Op fruit and Sticky Fingers). Both have heart-shaped tattoos on their chests. Both fought their former bosses to overthrow them and succeeded in the end (Donquixote Doflamingo and Diavolo) and became the leaders of their own group (The Heart Pirates and Team Buccellati).
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
Okay will consider it
@pattouco
@pattouco 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steinixos Thank you Boss. Thanks for your videos. What are you next videos?
@angumakifor2355
@angumakifor2355 2 жыл бұрын
Soooo underrated man
@rafe100
@rafe100 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do doffy vs Jinbei cause honestly at this point doffy isn’t that powerful and I think Jinbei could give him a run for his money but would lose at the end
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
Alright. Will do
@woosh1342
@woosh1342 2 жыл бұрын
The main issue with taking scarring Kaido as a base for power levels is that Kaido can eat attacks like nothing. He took asura and didnt even get knocked down. Way too strong for a yc 1to fight like Luffy showed in his first fight. Zoro has the AP to be yc1+ but his base stats and stamina when using acoc is nowhere near enough to tangle with Yonkos. As soon as Kaido focuses on him alone in the 2 v5 on the roof hes done for within just a few attacks. On the other hand Yamato can atleast neutralise a Boro breath from Hybrid Kaido, Stall him till Luffy returned, even Managed to tank a Thunder Bagua which a yc1 Luffy from Act 1 couldn't. She never showed any difficulty in using acoc and even appeared to use acoa against Haccha during Onigashima when she used the Nari Kabura arrow. Lufy >>Yamato>=Zoro>Sanji.
@Elchinodawn
@Elchinodawn Жыл бұрын
To be fair that was pre King of hell Zoro, current one probably would perform similar or a bit better than yamato, also he got Firefox style, so borobreath aren't a problem
@Dabestgoallie
@Dabestgoallie Жыл бұрын
-How strong is wano Roronoa Zoro? -Yes
@MonkeyDAnis
@MonkeyDAnis 2 жыл бұрын
Good video but you got 1 thing wrong: the ashura we saw wasnt zoros max power output This ashura was with everything he had left, beeing in such a critical condition (30broken bones, barley standing and beeing concious) Im for example sure his fresh dragon blaze prior was easily matching his nerfed ashura in terms of potency
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
There are way more scaling considerations than you realize
@MonkeyDAnis
@MonkeyDAnis 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steinixos and whats that supposed to mean? Still isnt changing the literall fact that zoros 30 broken bones, constantly shaking/barely able to stand and do basic swings was not his max power, it was just everything he had left beeing in that condition
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
Did I not point out in the video that all of zoro’s bones were broken and that he wasn’t supposed to be able to even move? Was that something you think I forgot about despite it being literally emphasized in the video?
@tsujan3984
@tsujan3984 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steinixos You did point out that he had 30 bones broken but then put Kaido Scarring Zoro (Oden level) above the King beating Zoro (close to Oden level) which is very confusing.
@Themabii
@Themabii 2 жыл бұрын
Dude this is so good can u do one of these for sanji?
3 ай бұрын
0:54 Of course he was chilling he was watching his girlfriend fight but when she was folding he stepped in.
@jasonxx9884
@jasonxx9884 Жыл бұрын
But the problem is that ashura never had advanced conquerors coated on the sword
@stevenr1036
@stevenr1036 2 жыл бұрын
👏🏽👏🏽well done video
@bwhit7919
@bwhit7919 2 жыл бұрын
Zoro has one of the strongest attack potencies in series, but there’s a lot that he lacks. He’s not as fast as Sanji, doesn’t have bulletproof skin, and doesn’t have advanced observation Haki. I’m not sure if he could beat Katakuri in a fight. I’d say they might be equal, or Zoro wins mid-high dif. If they fight in the mirror world, Zoro has a 0% chance of winning because he’d get lost.
@Blaze-hq4ox
@Blaze-hq4ox 2 жыл бұрын
First his overall speed is slower than sanji BUT he has skills that allow him to be faster temporarily so that isnt a problem Second why would u need bullet proof skin when his speciality is armament haki and "blocking" and 2nd as luffy just said in wano even though he knew where kaido attack was coming from (advanced obv) kaido was too fast for him to dodge, so if zoro (like i.said in 1) does a move that is so fast katakuri cant dodge he could probably 1 shot
@goat5944
@goat5944 2 жыл бұрын
He does not have attack potency even greater than Yamato. You need to drop powerscaling altogether.
@Blaze-hq4ox
@Blaze-hq4ox 2 жыл бұрын
@@goat5944 you need to lmfao, yamato barely has any feats to say she has more than zoro
@goat5944
@goat5944 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blaze-hq4ox Her feats are infinitely better than Zoro. You need to reread them fights again. Nothing Zoro did comes close to matching Kaido's thunder bagua and make Kaido bleed who was defending with adv coc haki.
@Blaze-hq4ox
@Blaze-hq4ox 2 жыл бұрын
@@goat5944 just re read it and you're wrong, yamato made him bleed but it was literally just blooding come down his forehead and yamato knows how to control her coc haki, a zoro that didnt know he had coc gave kaido a SCAR, thats more of a better feat than some blood coming down. You can argue that yamato > rooftop zoro (who only used adv coc with his final attack, asura) but the Zoro around the end of king fight is stronger than yamato or the same (he can use coc on will now) so no you need to reread the fights
@doejon7175
@doejon7175 2 жыл бұрын
On a scale from one to ten with a healthy gear 5 luffy being a 10 so I’d put luffy at his best before gear 5 at a 8 so zoro should be about a 8 at his absolute best
@gamershack7255
@gamershack7255 2 жыл бұрын
Pre gear 5 luffy, with refined adv conqueror can beat zoro however attack potency will go to zoro in this matchup.
@doejon7175
@doejon7175 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamershack7255 this is more or less what I’m saying in if zoro after the fight with king is heals to 100% and luffy before gear 5 is at 100% and they fight there is a serious case to be made that zoro beats Luffy just off attack potency
@aminetaganza5613
@aminetaganza5613 2 жыл бұрын
@@doejon7175 wtf
@Blaze-hq4ox
@Blaze-hq4ox 2 жыл бұрын
@@aminetaganza5613 you probably dont know what attack potentcy is and he said "pre gear 5 luffy"
@aminetaganza5613
@aminetaganza5613 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blaze-hq4ox yamato high to ext diff zoro 💯 chapter 1010 luffy (without snakeman) high diff zoro with snakeman it's mid diff chapter 1026 up luffy (without snakeman) mid diff zoro with snakeman it's low diff gear 5 solo the strawhats 💯 NO DEBATE Don't be a delusional fanboy , zoro is in the same tier as yamato / marco .....ect
@thiscommentwasdeleted.
@thiscommentwasdeleted. 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a non theory content, tired of those baseless theories 😆
@adrianpolanco2084
@adrianpolanco2084 2 жыл бұрын
No XD Zoro's attack is no comparable to Oden's, you only have to see the reaction of Kaido in both case and even the scars themselves. Granted, it was made to a hybrid and current Kaido, but there is no actual evidence to say that this Kaido is much stronger than 20 years ago, we don't know about any challenging and serious fight for him from Oden's death to Onigashima war. Oden's attack bear Advanced Conqueror with better domain than Zoro, who didn't even know he was using it. Finally, Kaido himself puts Oden among characters like Shanks, Roger and Shirohigue.
@SecondSoulo
@SecondSoulo Жыл бұрын
So kaido has fought shanks. That would make him grow. And oden scarred kaido in a weaker form. Oda even suggest that characters only reach their prime at their late 50’s. So yes kaido is stronger. Also, Zoro had 30 broken bones when this was done. So Zoro>>oden
@dazel3412
@dazel3412 Жыл бұрын
Very good video you made some very good points but zoro didn't break every bones in his body law said that I was 20 to 30 Also you need to touch on how blunt force attacks and cutting attacks are different, cutting attacks are on the higher teir so even if zoro was not as strong as whole cake gear fourth luffy is attack power was way beyond it
@goat5944
@goat5944 2 жыл бұрын
Missed you bro. Hoping for Gear 5 Luffy casually multicontinental to moon-planet lvl with Bajrang Gun, Video, next.
@phantomdaze2599
@phantomdaze2599 Жыл бұрын
He is as strong as the narrative requires. Let's be real Oda isn't thinking about all this that hard.
@NukeNuke1
@NukeNuke1 2 жыл бұрын
Will you ever do an in-depth luffy scale including Gear 5
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Working on it right now
@NukeNuke1
@NukeNuke1 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steinixos yessir 💪🏾
@pagsurediha2839
@pagsurediha2839 Жыл бұрын
Damn the scaling is on point 🔥🔥🔥
@adrianchriste6
@adrianchriste6 2 жыл бұрын
We dont know how strong he is, because he didnt use ashura with conquerors coating. Dragon damnation is his strongest used attack so far, but not his maximum potential. Moving on from this, zoro was literally going through a mental crisis on whether or not he should give enma more haki. He was purposely regulating his haki. You need to give context to the fight so people have no wiggle room. King was the first to get upset and start going all out, not zoro. Its confirmed he was angry from zoro cutting his mask once, then AGAIN with tiger hunt, his mask was able to break because kings flame was off with the preranodom form speed when he broke it the 2nd time. thats how zoro figured him out eventually from more contact, meanwhile zoro was still not giving enma the haki it wanted on purpose. Just look at the dialogue. King and zoro were matched until king grew upset and got relentless in his assault. But a purposely haki regulating zoro was keeping up with this angry king. Remember, zoro tanked kings explosion attack with just armament. Zoro can hurt king without conquerors coating in his flame off state, hence his previous mask damage, armament is enough to damage him in speed form, but its not one shotting potential like conquerors, thats the boost conquerors gives. Also, even king says "a swordsman whos losing to his sword" and "trouble in paradise", he notices zoro struggling with his haki regulation, among the statements zoros makes about how he should use his haki until he finally lets it all out, show that you cant quantify zoro vs king that easily, but you have to know that ashura zoro who attacked kaido broken bones and invisible coco coating < king of hell zoro visible coc coating, thus king of hell ashura zoro > king of hell coco coating dragon damnnation, which we havent seen, and that attack would do plenty more damage to kaido than what we saw him do before, by logic alone. Kings ability might not make him take damage at all depeding on the flames on his back, it could be hax like, because logic alone says maximum defense king is at least above hybrid kaido, but likely definitely not magma dragon kaido vs bajrang gun. I think zoro is a 95 to luffys 100 now comapred to 98 to 100 before gear 5 but i think zoro will get closer to 97 to luffy 100 by eos
@Randomguy-ft5xm
@Randomguy-ft5xm 2 жыл бұрын
how is king above HYBRID KAIDO. HYBRID KAIDO? Gear 5 luffy 100 and zoro 97? how? What did zoro do that you gave him such a high status? Zoro is close to 90 or something. He is definitely not close to Gear 5 luffy. He is equal to pre G5 luffy.
@monkeyluffy4521
@monkeyluffy4521 2 жыл бұрын
bro first off zoros asura on kaido was infused with conquerors haki kaido himself said it and the wound kaido gets from it is so small compared with the scar oden gives kaido and for you to even compare king with hybrid kaido is the most ridiculous thing you could say, kings durablity is not an actual you can't hurt him like durability. its not like kings body is tough to hurt its just king have a power that makes him untouchable when he is in his flame state, you just need to know the timing to hurt him. and i am not saying this to downplay zoro i think current zoro can defeat katakuri but lets be honest katakuri is clearly stronger than king and about the thing you said about zoro being 95 to gear 5th is just laughable remember luffy was able to split the in his base form with kaido in his hybrid form
@adrianchriste6
@adrianchriste6 2 жыл бұрын
@@Randomguy-ft5xm his defense, only his defense, thats what i said. Not strength, his ability. Normal armament haki zoro can cut kaido, but he can not cut king with flames on, that alone is enough to say kings DEFENSE ability is above kaidos, and why i said it could be hax like and he doeant take damage at all
@adrianchriste6
@adrianchriste6 2 жыл бұрын
@@monkeyluffy4521 i know that but you didn't see the lightning on his blades, which means it was a very small amount used. So it cant be stronger than dragon damnation with actual lightning coming off his blades. Also I replied to the guy above me already, KINGS DEFENSE ABILITY os above kaidos defense, not power or anything else, just that alone, please read properly in context
@ravjesus4848
@ravjesus4848 Жыл бұрын
you are ignoring that rooftop Ashura Is NOT in King of hell mode
@a1piece
@a1piece Жыл бұрын
I can’t fully agree since Katakuri has advanced ryuo which is the baseline for damaging Kaido. Luffy used advanced Ryuo with Red Roc and that was the first time Luffy damaged Kaido
@tsujan3984
@tsujan3984 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Although I hope you don't mind me make a disagreement on one important point you made. I believe Kaido Scarring Zoro and Zoro now are in same power. While Zoro scarred he had 30 bones broken and he said he was putting everything he had in that attack so that means whatever has remained of his power after 30 broken bones, and him using CoC coating at least hat time happened because he was putting everything he had on it so the power just burst out. So, I believe Zoro's attack now is just as potent as it was when he scarred Kaido.. it's just like Luffy's G5 now Zoro has a time limit.
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
Again, there are more considerations that I decided not to go into detail about. Think of things from a macro perspective rather than focusing on “Zoro was injured”
@tsujan3984
@tsujan3984 2 жыл бұрын
@@Steinixos Well, I don't understand it but if you have your reasons that you didn't specify then I won't talk about it. It's just confusing without the whole context.
@jeffj3976
@jeffj3976 2 жыл бұрын
Clown comment
@tsujan3984
@tsujan3984 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffj3976 wtf?
@r.a.s6410
@r.a.s6410 Жыл бұрын
Never underestimate Zoro
@GRebron
@GRebron 2 жыл бұрын
Love ur vids and this one as well Would love to see one for current law and current sanji who’s very contentious in the fanbase rn
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
Working on sanji rn
@hereticjojo
@hereticjojo Жыл бұрын
Can we get a video on Eustass kid?
@memesthemerciful1830
@memesthemerciful1830 Жыл бұрын
at 6:45 you say zoros attack is on the same level as odens. but you had stated that hybrid form is > dragon form in terms of durability, and oden scared kaido in his dragon form. meaning zoros slash would most likely be greater in terms of strength.
@pokeballblaze9835
@pokeballblaze9835 2 жыл бұрын
i missed your content
@r.a.s6410
@r.a.s6410 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on how strong Kaido and Big Mom are?
@SupremPyro
@SupremPyro 9 ай бұрын
I have one problem and taht is phtting ashura zoro above king of hell zoro. Ashura Zoro had 20-30 broken bones after he hold off hakai a advanced coc attqck that should kill all 5 of them. I dont know how much the mink medicin did heal him but he was stronger in koh then ashura. Also kings durability is arguably better then kaidos or relativ the same when you see what it took to hurt a flames off king and what it took to theoretically hurt flames on king
@axolotlempire8947
@axolotlempire8947 Жыл бұрын
pretty sure its not advanced armament haki zoro didn't train like luffy u could argue enma brought out his haki but its not confirmed that it was specifically armament and even then, even killer was able to hurt kaido with just basic haki
@kiritoseesaran8345
@kiritoseesaran8345 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds Jamaican
@raidenesp1096
@raidenesp1096 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think zoros cutting kaido=his attack will always be at that level when fighting others. His attacks are much weaker unless he is using his full power. Also I think him having a slashing weapon also gives him an advantage Vs kaido not that he was necessarily stronger than gear 4 luffy.
@mc4tarzans
@mc4tarzans Жыл бұрын
One thing I wanna ask is the use of blunt or Slash force. For example, luffy is much more durable against blunt force damage and weaker against Slash damage and I wondering Kaido is the same. Since Kaito has scales, he would be stronger against slashes
@chebichevinovichskic
@chebichevinovichskic Жыл бұрын
Bro chill. Yes Zoro's attack was able to leave a scar, like Odin's attack. But Zoro is nowhere 'ear Odin' s level yet. The dude was going to defeat Kaido 1v1 if it wasn't for the treachery in the end. Odin is above current G5 Luffy, which could defeat Kaido only with the help of a whole squad.
@lmao_juno
@lmao_juno Жыл бұрын
can you do a how strong is marco
@geehonedmund6061
@geehonedmund6061 Жыл бұрын
True. But kaido was kinda weakened because of all the fights he went through
@Nathan24634
@Nathan24634 5 ай бұрын
So is king just mire durable than kaido or is that only flame on cause it always seemed crazy to me that zoro couldn't damage someone that kaido beat but based on the feats his durability is higher than kaidos
@Nathan24634
@Nathan24634 5 ай бұрын
Also could Zoro damage flame on king end of fight if given time or was king being stupid deciding to switch between flame on and off
@brunoherrera2574
@brunoherrera2574 Жыл бұрын
Act 1 Luffy isn't hurting Kaido. Wtf are you saying that base Zoro is that weak. Base Zoro is at least rooftop Luffy using Red Roc on Kaido.
@joshoommen9031
@joshoommen9031 Жыл бұрын
but we dont know if oden was stronger than what was shown. He literally had a pseudo duel with roger when he first came to wano. His fight with kaido was also cut short due to one of his henchmen playing dirty and oden was caught off guard. Oden may have put up an even stronger fight
@constantdreams7918
@constantdreams7918 Жыл бұрын
One point I disagree with is that ashura is zoros “full power” saying that was zoros max when he was heavily fatigued, all of his bones were broken, even you stated that law said “How can he even fight?” A fully healed zoro should be able to out due his ashura attack from his first awakening.
@zohaibahmed9738
@zohaibahmed9738 Жыл бұрын
He litterly stated in the comments he knew that but he didnt decide to mention it or smth
@ganesh.m4963
@ganesh.m4963 2 жыл бұрын
Dude can you calculate luffys bajrang gun attack to show how strong it had to be for kaido to go down to wanos volcano stream
@Itsant33
@Itsant33 Жыл бұрын
Why aren't you saying that zoro sped up healing which is a temporary fix so he wasn't really at full power which is why enma stopped obeying him at times because he lack the physical fortitude too maintain enma under his control
@allstarlord9110
@allstarlord9110 Жыл бұрын
Can Zoro actually use conquero's fusion? I mean Luffy had to learn ryo first and Zoro just figures it out just like that? Even though he just awakened his conqueror's haki?
@LuciusFox24
@LuciusFox24 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of this video except for saying that wano luffy and katakuri have equal attack potency. It was shown numerous times throughout the fight that katakuri had superior armament haki and the main thing luffy improved was his observation haki and using his snake man's continously increasing attack speed to get hits in. I don't think there's much of a reason to assume their attack potency is equal nor would it make much narrative sense to say that kings durability even with the flame off his higher than katakuris overall attack potency. Since they're similar ranks they should be relative in a fight and capable of being damaged by the other.
@michaeldorsey9231
@michaeldorsey9231 Жыл бұрын
The only time Katakuri had stronger striking power than Luffy was when he was using his block mochi in conjunction with his armament Haki (I don’t consider the Gear 3 clash to be evidence of Katakuri being stronger than Luffy since the former has his footing on the ground and the latter is middair). Even then Boundman Luffy was able to overpower Katakuri’s block mochi arms to deck him in the face, so at the very least Boundman Luffy is as powerful as Katakuri was. This same Boundman Luffy failed to do any damage to base Kaido in their first encounter and got oneshot. On Onigashima Dragon Kaido was getting cut by Zoro, even though in base he could withstand Luffy’s strongest form earlier in the arc, so from this there’s already a precedent for Onigashima Zoro to be much stronger than Katakuri’s AP.
@Elchinodawn
@Elchinodawn Жыл бұрын
Boundman luffy had far more raw power than Katakuri but was too slow to actually land a good hit
@LuciusFox24
@LuciusFox24 Жыл бұрын
@@Elchinodawn ill have to go reread the fight since its been awhile but I wouldn't say G4 was "far" stronger than katakuri. The entire narrative of that fight was that katakuri was superior to luffy in every way, the fight is about luffy growing to be able to reach katakuris level and surpass it. With that in mind the most rational conclusion even if I disregard the other narrative implications in the fight (katakuri was focused on breaking luffys will more than physically overpowering him), is that luffy and katakuri were equals.
@aldoramirez1062
@aldoramirez1062 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on sanji?
@Steinixos
@Steinixos 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. The sanji one is out now
@killme1389
@killme1389 2 жыл бұрын
Odens Attacked Damaged Him And Turned Him Into A Human Again
@juancarlosn
@juancarlosn 2 жыл бұрын
zoro is not at oden level yet. oden fully controlled enma with 0 effect. while zoro would of died from his final attack. zoro even acknowledge oden for being able to handle such a strange sword. the oden that gave kaido a scar we could assume didnt train for 5 years and still was able to do such damage
@SecondSoulo
@SecondSoulo Жыл бұрын
But that oden was also stated to be far stronger than his previous self. And oden had enma for his entire life and we know it wasn’t draining like that from the beginning since he didn’t have haki as a child. And Zoro has three swords instead of 2. Also we don’t know if ame no habikiri has a special effect like enma that heals or something.
@juancarlosn
@juancarlosn Жыл бұрын
@@SecondSoulo why make so much excuses for Zoro.
@SecondSoulo
@SecondSoulo Жыл бұрын
@@juancarlosn why assume oden didn’t train for 5 years? I said what I said to try to make sense of an otherwise nonsensical situation. How can a 10 year old oden output more haki than most men, and not have his body shrivel up and vanish.
@davidortiz3094
@davidortiz3094 Жыл бұрын
King of Hell techniques is definitely stronger than Oden but the Asura he used on Kaido isn't. Oden cut Kaido out of the sky in manga & anime. Zoro couldn't knock him down.
@OgBez
@OgBez 2 жыл бұрын
I think oden was stronger then Zoro is
@saidbachlil4476
@saidbachlil4476 2 жыл бұрын
No black blade enma
@Sfg.frostyLive
@Sfg.frostyLive 2 жыл бұрын
Please do sanji vs garou
@jamelejohnson9007
@jamelejohnson9007 2 жыл бұрын
U sound Jamaican
@ajfoster1894
@ajfoster1894 Жыл бұрын
I just need to know from u how zoro vs sasuke would go
@Steinixos
@Steinixos Жыл бұрын
Will consider
@mistercontroversial
@mistercontroversial 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this video got so many views so fast.
@femalegoku5745
@femalegoku5745 Жыл бұрын
So is beginning. Luffy was stronger than Zorro. Then Zorro got Edinburgh. Then Zora got stronger than Luffy Two scar kiado
@ReturnOfGodEnel
@ReturnOfGodEnel 2 жыл бұрын
Do this for sanji
@Multi1
@Multi1 Жыл бұрын
Is Zoro stronger than Luffy?
@Chuck_Brownn
@Chuck_Brownn 2 жыл бұрын
Zoro coc infusion is already above Asura on the rooftop, just because zoro poured all of his strength into it doesn't mean he used coc infusion.. We've seen luffy put his all in his final attack several times in the story and not use coc haki infusion.. There's no clear evidence zoro scarred kaido with coc infusion, there was no black streaks to confirm that and also let's say he did use coc infusion, I can't say zoro using coc haki subconsciousnesly is stronger than him using it willingly.. Zoro is already above the level that scarred kaido.
@heroricspiritfreinen38
@heroricspiritfreinen38 2 жыл бұрын
Kaido stated Zoro used conquerors coating in his attack on the roof Zoro that fought king >>>>>>>> zoro with 30 broken bones that scarred kaido
@Chuck_Brownn
@Chuck_Brownn 2 жыл бұрын
@@heroricspiritfreinen38 Cap!!!.. Kaido did not say he used conquerors coating.. He said "boy don't tell me you possess the color of the supreme king". Nothing there confirmed he used coc infusion. Believing zoro used it is headcanon, even I too believe that he used it but I don't think its on the level of king of hell.
@Reallyjoyboyfr
@Reallyjoyboyfr 2 жыл бұрын
@@heroricspiritfreinen38 why u going around lying to make zoro seem weaker
@woosh1342
@woosh1342 2 жыл бұрын
Ayo put some respect on Luffy he just didn't wanna use G4 in Fishman Island otherwise he would have 1 shot overdosed hordy. He also would have been able to destroy the Noah. Remember he also had snake man post TS he just hadn't used it. G4 would be too much for even Fishman Island Zoro, he was launching Doffy for hundreds of meters with 1 attack.
@tejassheldekar8652
@tejassheldekar8652 Жыл бұрын
All factors considered, Zoro never broke a sweat with these all sidekicks he fought
@cordellsanders9998
@cordellsanders9998 Жыл бұрын
Do jinbei
@marcusnunes1493
@marcusnunes1493 2 жыл бұрын
200th like
@moniquereid2009
@moniquereid2009 Жыл бұрын
How strong is zoro? Stronger than naurto
@Kronzo_Z
@Kronzo_Z 2 жыл бұрын
And people say Kat beats King... Even Marco could not damage King
@davidortiz3094
@davidortiz3094 Жыл бұрын
Katakuri ain't on that lvl till he gains advanced conquerers
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