This one and the "we're bullshit" line in the finale convinced me Roman was the only one of the siblings who actually went through major changes from s3 to s4.

​@@thatveryvvitch_Roman ended up exactly where he started at the beginning of the show. The whole thing was like a detour for him lol

I rewatched Season 1 and Logan actually says that line in the 2nd episode.

The finale confirms this line was the theme this season and directly answers it

that and "maybe the poison drips through". such good writing

To quote Jesse Armstrong: "They’re like Greek gods: the only thing that’s wrong with them is how much they’re able to do to the world."

"These are extremely traumatized people, which on its own isn't a bad thing" lmaoooo

Absolutely. His funeral scene was the first media to make me ball my eyes out since The Elephant Man and The Color Purple. For real.

Amen...For all his "issues", at least Conner somehow managed to try to envision another kind of life. For all their money and privilege, the other three just couldn't or wouldn't. I know it's just fiction, but the emotional landscape created feels very true. And yes! The Emmy for Kieran!

He is the eldest son, HE IS

@@brandonwhite4992 Also, it's important to remember that he was interested in politics from a very young age.

Also extremely relevant in light of the final episode

If Roman survives the finale and walks away from it all that would be the most incredible win; I'm not counting on it but god I hope this happens

great analysis, i always thought of him as a very immature person but you made some points with the growth he has shown. i liked his last scene on the show, it definitely feels like he is relieved.

I’ve watched the series three times now and each time around Roman appears even more (and more..and even more) damaged ..that brilliance to reduce any and every situation to a witticism seems to be his way of being able to never take anything seriously..and yet there are clues that he’s trying -or at least feeling around in the dark for a way out

Do yourself a favor and watch the HELL out of it. Biggest show out there right now for a reason.

Had you actually never even heard of "Succession"?

I'm so jealous of you I wish I could go back. You're in for a treat, this is PEAK TV. Will go in the books alongside Breaking Bad, The Wire, and The Sopranos.

@@thomaswschaller Yes, I have actually never heard of Succession. I'm not from an English speaking country, so stuff like popular tv shows don't come up in daily conversation and while I'm enough of an internet denizen to have a decent grasp of English language pop culture I often miss stuff that aren't in my wheelhouse. For example, I was entirely unaware of Game of Thrones until the third season.

@@immaterialspectator4209 Not any kind of judgment - just a curiosity

Hour and a half :) hopefully that makes you feel a little better lol

How do you know? 🤔

​@@raymondsims7042 ? All the terrorism threats, going back to season one --and even during Roman's trip to Turkey/ hostage deal. The show will perhaps "fill more promises" than just Logan's death. Also, the trove Shakespearean allusions.... His tragedies almost always end with "a stage full of dead people" and a regime change/ new order. ? But you never know! Or, I guess we'll find out in a few days.... 😮

@@rwh1818 idk lad I don’t think succession is that kind of show that really kills characters off. That is until this season when they killed off arguably the most important character in Logan roy. So hey perhaps you’re right. But what’s your prediction on who will become the ceo?🤔

@@raymondsims7042 So hard to say.... Here's a brief (lol) consideration at this moment: Many like Greg for it. Structurally, that could make sense given the piss and puke juxtapositions of the first episode. Also, he's a real climber- we've all seen these kiss ups do well in the workplace. Still, his performance during the hearings was quite wimpy, memorably so. Firing people in Zoom isn't enough, imo, to say, hey, we've got a leader here! It would need to be Mattson placing a yes man in the re, to satisfy fascist Menken, perhaps. Opening credits since season 1 really look like Tom in the flashbacks - his back and head in the summer/ ice cream suit. He stood up to Logan with chicken. Logan liked the human furniture deal, I think. Logan told Pinky Tom's a good guy on the wedding day (uncharacteristic praise). Logan said he'd remember Tom's willingness to go to jail for him. Still, he's probably a coo candidate more? Tom went to work rather than to a family event (funeral), though.... Roman can't handle pressure and doesn't seem to be growing. Shiv should've stayed in politics where she was individuating from her dad's narcissism. She's smart but it's not the same as knowing the organization's insides and outs (compared to Kendall, whom Logan had been grooming for *decades*). Kendall's actions, words, gestures, and facial expressions all show him becoming a Logan. In a sense he was a killer --or felt like one bc of the car incident. If Logqn didn't think Kendall were a killer, would he have done the food taste test in Italy? On a cheating note, Mattson looks to scream as if bested- in the finale promo? It does seem like adding Hugo and Colin to Frank gives Kendall a good team. Karl was sparky before the speech - might he be tamed to heel? Geri still has a soft spot for Roman- perhaps a shame nc ultimately, other than that, she seems to have her stuff together more than most anyone else. lol Perhaps Kendall. But another sacrifice, too. Kendall celebrates-ODs, with no Jess or Rav to Narcan him? Roman flips out and kills or tries to kill Kendall or himself? Protesters kill Kendall or Roman? I saw a promo where Tom and Shiv are in an office- skyline is mountainous, not NYC. Both wear wedding bands. She appears still preggers. Brian Cox has been teasing a Lazarua moment of Logan. As if it's all been a test. James Cromwell has teased a comparison to 6 Feet Under - which would seem Kendall would die. But he also mentioned a "miracle." Tom was the last one with Logan - Tom didn't go to the funeral.... Connor is hanging out with Logan but not quite as sad.... or is he the real pre-griever.... Or, Maybe Kerry brings a Logan, Jr to the world..... ??? 🤔 This is a satire, beneath it all. Which outcome would best serve a satire of the uberwealthy and the state of capitalism? These are swirling thoughts.... What have I missed? What do you think will happen?

Ewan's speech was better than Connor's "when a man dies it is sad" speech. What's my favorite color?

@@whirlwind872 male children of narcissists are typically beta's like Connor and the other two brothers have some degree of. They are eerily Trumplike.

@@whirlwind872 cyan

@@koboldcatgirl I'm mad because it really is cyan

if nobody got me i know that riley lungthief got me!!! (i will be passing away during the final credits regardless of what happens but thank you for your thoughts and prayers)

To avoid copyright issues I’m pretty sure

Fresh Meat is fricking top notch TV

You should. It is hilarious and sad and aggravating and sickening. A lot of fun and not a lot of fun. Really well written characters.

If you won't watch it because it's on a streaming service, it's incredibly easy to find it for free. That's how I watched it, never had HBO.

In season 1? There was a national emergency or whatever that’s why the president didn’t meet with Logan in the beginning of the episode

he tried to, but the helicopters couldn't fly that day despite kendall trying to bribe them because of a national emergency issue

Terrorist threat had air traffic shutdown. To me what's more telling is that Kendall didn't have to go out there in the first place. Frank told him not to but he didn't listen and got stuck

Jeez....he tried to. Watch the episode again.