Hi honey alone should have passed the test

It's ok Suisei. I also almost failed English too. Only difference is that it's my first and only language

The point on knowing vocabulary being enough for casual use is very true. If you can string together the correct ideas the specifics of how you say it generally wont make too much difference in most cases. Obviously being able to communicate fluently is impressive but it takes a lot of effort learning grammar rules while not sounding like a speaking textbook

"iyeyyyyy" - suisei probably

I totally get what she means about hearing Ririka speaking English. I always have a big grin on my face when she and Haachama are talking with the EN fans.

The world is not ready for Sui to fluently scold everyone in english

How did I never realise how cute Sui-chan looks when she smiles brightly with her eyes closed 😄

"As long as I avoid failing. That's enough for me" Same Suisei... Same. I only barely scrapped a pass through school much to the irritation of my teachers 😅

Sui-chan speaking in fluent English would be a dream come true. 😂

Time to get suichan on the anki grind

One underrated member that had decent English proficiency is Watame! She had come a long way and could pick up the general topic the chat is reacting to nowadays! It also helps that there's quite a number of EN watamates hanging around her chat because of how her stream-time works, it's truly a trial by fire for Watame

The head tilts when she thinks after reading a question ❤

Yes, likewise with how I converse with Japanese people - Keen-minded individuals will understand your intentions enough once you string a few nouns and verbs together, regardless of grammar or synthesis. Even when not perfect, the laughs between two people of different languages is good enough a mood lifter and motivation to learn and interact.

Man, i really want another Duolingo stream I love the Suienglish so much

very true about the duolingo stuff, if you're even moderately experienced at the language you're learning it becomes a huge slog of repetition with minimal new vocabulary (speaking from my own experience with Japanese duolingo)

nail lady got a pretty good idea you can pick out words that you know, and piece them together doing that can help figuring out the meaning of the sentence/conversation, and the grammar too

It's great to see Sui-chan's interest in learning English! Being bilingual is nice, although you might always feel that you're lacking in your second one. Watching and listening to Hololive streams so much had actually helped quite a bit with my Japanese learning honestly!

Her nail artist is right. You can talk like a caveman and we'll understand you. Vocabulary is way more important than grammar when you first start learning. But getting your ears used to the language is also very important, that's why I always recommend that new learners watch at least 1 episode of a childrens show (aimed at Kindergarten children) every single day without subtitles. That repetition really helps and is far less boring than whatever textbooks and duolingo offer.

As Noel once said, sometimes just surviving in life is amazing. A win is a win, a pass is a pass!

If I have to give an advice to Holomem, (and I've been saying it for years) Is that they should start playing games in English, or watch Shows in English with subs. Couple of my friends, including some streamers I used to watch literally learned their English from playing video games alone. Subaru is also a great example, she was able to recognize sentence patterns because she watched overseas shows in Sub instead of Dub. So, they should pick a game they've already played before/familiar with the story. Then just replay in English. And Also speak to EN/ID member, EVERY SINGLE DAY. Don't treat it like a high school knowledge where you learned from books and just forget, never use it again. Treat it like an everyday skill. That's how you learn your first language. Now, of course, it won't be on an academic level but, they'll be able converse like Subaru and then some.

Meanwhile her business partner has elite english

I hope someday that Hololive makes it easier to learn languages.

Coming from the opposite and using duolingo for japanese, I will definitely say that without consistency you aren't going to retain any of it. I do a duolingo lesson section every day and I still forget some stuff

Her "hi honey!" just makes me all giggly for some reason

I think she should just throw herself into talking with the EN members, helps with listening to native speakers and will commit it to memory more as it will be everyday words being used

How the sui nearly failed English

Honestly, the woman who does her nails is pretty correct about how to learn English. Focus on the very basics of the grammar, and expand vocabulary. Fill in the details of grammar as you get more experienced. I honestly think that'd do pretty well for being understood. That's the thing about English; it has a lot of stupid and contradictory rules that can be difficult to get correct when you're learning it, but you don't need to get them correct to be generally understood. In fact, you can get quite a bit wrong and probably still do decently well making yourself understood. I think that actually helps English get picked up more than other languages. While it's obviously not always the case, there are other languages out there where these kinds of rules CAN'T be ignored, because something simple like conjugating a word incorrectly makes you incomprehensible. English is pretty forgiving when it comes to that.

I feel like for people like Suisei, singing is a super op way to learn new languages. If she learned the lyrics and translations to a couple of english songs she likes, she would learn some new vocabulary that you would have to keep repeating, singing kind of forces you to pronounce stuff at least somewhat correctly cause everything would get messed up if you add extra syllables like japanese people often do and you would be reating sentences with correct grammar over and over.

I feel like her mom would draw and quarter her for this.

There is just no way you won't have a smile on your face listening to Ririka's English. He Eng stream heals my soul

I can only wonder how was Mamamachi gonna feel about her daughter barely failing her English tests

I always amazed japanese has 30 as passing limit. In my place, we need to score 60.

How is 32% not a failing mark?! lol

If Suisei is indeed gonna make a push to learn English for real, I wish her lots of strength for that. Whether it's for fun or obligation, learning another language takes lots of commitment and is a long process, unless you're an Austrian chicken. 😜 And may she pick the method that she has the most fun in, coz learning as a chore sticks about as well as a suction cup on raw concrete. For me, playing games and reading walkthroughs and discussions online taught me far, far, FAR more and better English than the 6 or 7 years I studied it officially in school or as an extracurricular course. Now I'm learning Japanese and going full send on my tutoring classes, and it's been so fun that I don't even game when I have pending homework or studies, they're my main pastime. Also I'm learning grammar and syntax alongside vocabulary, focusing more on the grammar. It's an unpopular take going from the other comments, but I'm fascinated by the _logic_ behind a language's structure, and grammar (morphology, syntax, etc) give me that knowledge on a silver platter. When I understand and comprehend the framework of a language, the words fit into that framework naturally.

Another Duolingo stream... we can never escape from the bird

For people who wants to learn a new language, the first step you should take is to familiarize yourself with the language, at least to the point where it doesn't sounds like "gibberish" when you listen to it. Once you're familiar with the language, it becomes easier to memorize the words and its meaning. Then, you can try to listen to people speaking the language to recognize the speech pattern. After that, you can practice to make sentences and speak it out. By doing this, you're learning the grammar, pronunciation, and the stops/pause in a sentence. From here, you can try to learn more about the linguistics, accents, contexts, metaphors, etc. For the written part of the language, it's mostly memorization. Especially with the ones that has their own alphabets, like Japanese, Chinese, Russian, Thailand, and many others. This is how I learned languages that aren't my first. English, Javanese, and Japanese. I can't say I'm good at those, but I can at least holds an everyday conversation (maybe). Unfortunately, I still can't read Kanji and Javanese letter, lmao.

*Suienglish is adorable* i love her shes so cute

Somebody sign up the Comet Girl for one of Calli's English lessons, stat!

Soo cute when she got 32% ganbatte Sui-chan. Just imagine if there's a some sort of tetris word game.

4:03 I only mention this because I recently learned it and thought it was interesting--"kokugo" here is roughly "Japanese (class)", but in the sense of how "English (class)" is used in English. Not that they match exactly, but they have learning grammar, reading literature, etc. in common. (This is of course not meant as a criticism of the subtitle, as "kokugo" does literally mean "national language" and is more comprehensible if you're not adding a footnote like I am.)

sui-chan cute. would be interesting to hear an english jouzu sui-chan.

No wonder she and Calli get along then.

Damn Sui-chan don't expose me. That's the reason i keep getting high grades all the way during school and college lol I wouldn't suspect anything if Kazama-dono suddenly start using more English. More like, i support her fully!

30% counts as the pass mark in JP? Damn they must be some brutal exams.

It's always weird to me how hard japanese get driven to study and yet the passing grade is as low as 30% when I'm used to it being at least twice that (and it only goes higher the longer you are in school).

The real joke would be to tell her to watch subbed anime

Sometimes i forgot how her table clock actually works and tells you the time 😂

Sui-chan... Ririka is nowhere close to being fluent. In fact she's not much better than other talents who consider themselves to be terrible at English - she's just unafraid of making mistakes and doesn't freeze up when she lacks words, she keeps trying to communicate.

IRyS is probably the strongest bilingual Holomember...

32% at English is wild 😭 still shes got more space for improvement if she tried

Suisei's nailist (is that really the name???) is right on the money! It's actually more natural for your brain to learn vocabulary first - think about the order in which toddlers learn how to talk. They don't start off with perfecting their grammar, they learn what noise a cow makes, they learn that A is for "apple", etc. You can't learn grammar if you don't have words to make full sentences from anyways.

Book shops report being cleared out of English instruction materials by a certain blonde samurai.

Hahahahaha xD

I'm so early I cannot hit the like button and if I do it's still zero lol

Isn't suisei's mom is an english teacher? Why not ask her mom to teach her 😂

In America failing is either below a 50% or 60%, so a 32% would be a red mark~~~ Not that I can relate. My grades in high school were near perfect. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Duolingo is garbage.

meanwhile in my school you'd fail if you get below 75%🥲