I imagine it goes down hella far, draining earth of any underground resources and teleporting it offworld periodically

Apparently the writers intend for the core (you can even see it in alyxs diagrams in her hideout in half life alyx) to have been slammed into the ground after being teleported into the city

It’s probably like a tree, where the majority of it is underground, like roots.

@@cakti581 that's not how trees work (most of them) have you ever seen an uprooted tree ?

@@turinturambar8622 he was assuming like an Iceberg.which just the tip is seen floating at the surface

8 km tall 860 m wide have video

Not really. Check out how Ostankino TV tower was built: 540 meters tall, 4.6-meter foundation.

@@atomlib Yeah but you also literally see how deep the foundation is in-game

I heard that it possibly goes Miles bellow ground (1 Mile = 1.6KM meaning this is only around 2 Miles tall), keep in mind I said "MILES BELLOW GROUND" meaning this may only be a small SMALL part of the true scale.

@@thephoenixking1086 I suspect that at its deepest the Citadel foundations would be very near the Earth's mantle layer to harvest a wealth of Geothermal Energy needed to power the Combine War Machine, especially in the case of a full mobilization to Earth if, God forbid, an intergalactic force of comparable strength to the Combine do show up somehow.

@@legoferrari14 i don't think that the combine needs geothermal energy because they have 2 dark matter / dark energy main reactors and these reactors produces a ton of energy for the entire citadel and probably to the entire city. Also the end of HL2 Ep1 you can see the full potential of the main core's energy to open a new super portal

and the parts that are covered by the clouds

@@totallynoteverything1. the model he measured includes that

lmao short

But not quite as tall as me

Me 157 cm (5’2”)

Its a little bit taller than me.

Just a wee bit taller than the average person. Not by much tho. *CITADEL ACTIVATION SOUNDS START Well it seems the Combine have taken an interest to my comparison.

oml I do this in GMod stop

I put npcs and shrink them. Their ai stops working when I do that.

Thank you, glad I'm getting some recommendations :D

it's metal

@@sirpendelton5710 I know, I wasn’t trying to say it was Metal

If there's massive collaboration it'd actually take probably 10 - 100, there's just little reason to make a structure so big when the risk is so great (also depends on if you count the core and several other combine technologies as 'constructing a citadel') Century long construction would be a dyson sphere or something lmao

@@naii_ okay

@@naii_ well core counts

wrong, actualy citadel is 8 km 406 m iwould drop vid here but its on russian

You die of starvation before the elevator takes you all the way up from the bottom

yeah, I've done this before. About a year ago I ported a halo 3 map to gmod and the skyboxes in that game are so silly huge I had to change the scale to 320 or something and scale the skybox model down just so it could fit in hammer's constraints.

@@naii_ The life of mapping! Haha

I was thinking of pivoting away from highly edited content (due to time invested being greater than the actual payoff) but if there's clear support for these kinds of videos (which there clearly seems to be), hell yeah! Hopefully more stuff in this style WILL come! I do know a lot more stupid, interesting factoids about valve games, so it's not like my knowledge will ever be an issue. Just passion, or lack thereof, for spending up to 2 hours per minute of video.

@@naii_ Absolutely understandable, hopefully the KZfaq algorithym picks this up and the channel gains in polpularity so the work invested will pay off. This really is an interesting video and very well made, honestly it'd be a shame if this contend had to be abbandoned.

According to the valve developer wiki, the size of a hammer unit is relative depending on what exactly is being measured Maps, architecture and some prop models use a scale of 1 foot = 16 units. Skyboxes (which are 1/16th scale of ordinary maps) use 1 foot = 1 unit. Human Character models and certain other models for Source Engine currently use 1 foot = 12 units. Human NPCs in Half life 2 have their collision hull's height set to 73 units high, so in actuality they're all around 6 feet tall (even though the player's view is 64 map units, which is like 4 feet tall) It's very confusing

@@naii_ Wh-- Why would they make it so confusing?? I... think this makes sense xD, good stuff

@@naii_ tower width must be 1 out of 10 in game it feels large also sight from tower is real new york, another youtuber calculated 8406 meters its 800m width

@@leftory684 Because they weren't planning on us actually measuring it anything like this.

just 2 km and 500m

I know L4D uses a different scale, but I don't know what it is exactly... Anything from 8 to 32 lmao

Nah man youd probably die

Wrong... That's just a picture from the beta they had to use. And the game takes places in east European region.

l don't think so

@@lolhuh6682 3km not tall enough for ya?

8km + new video with size comparsion

You're right about the underground, not about the clouds. The Citadel model with the faded out top still has the geometry for the top of the Citadel. There's also a version with an unfaded texture.

@@chocofrolik834 the full model was scaled down so you could see it below the clouds, it actually goes way above.

@@PuddleSpout ...Completely wrong. The model is scaled down in the skybox because that's how skyboxes work. If you're referring to how the Citadel levels wouldn't fit inside the model, that's a common theme throughout the entire game. Level transitioning makes Ravenholm overlap with Eli's Lab, etc

I would say don't count on it but I'm unpredictable as fuck and there's a small chance pretty much every day that i go on a video editing spree and crank out stuff like this out of nowhere

yes bernie from black mesa

He probably thinks city 17 is a nice place because he only sees it from 3-4 km up

thanks :DD

Yeah with money and time. Becausethis was a factory like building.

I bet that even all the money in the world isn't enough to build something like this.

Just replayed the battle scene with Breen last night. Didn’t see curvature of the Earth, but it looked like being in a plane above a city at about 15-20K feet - therefore pretty accurate.

no

@@makarylli1 :(

Only stalkers (amazon workers) would work

I know that in episode 1 the citadel's model is a combination of game brushes and a skybox model so i assume that's correct As for how it is in hl2... I don't think the base of the citadel is ever actually seen, so I don't know. And as for the interiors? I'd need to measure the dimensions of every single citadel map put together, but game levels are never based in reality and we don't explore the entire citadel so it'd be super inconclusive

either way, it is a very massive building ;)

8 km in game 860 m wide there us video

Nope it's 8km 860m wide, need new measure video?

@@nicolbolas8758 Where did you get that information from?

Your mother

@@naii_Gawd dayum , you just hit little bro with a mean one sucker punch combo .

@that random channel an inferior one

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