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Scientists Against Myths

Scientists Against Myths

3 жыл бұрын

The experimentalist Nikolay Vasiutin copies the ancient Egyptian technology: carves an image on a granite surface with a flint cutter.
Work duration: 7 hours.
Tools/materials:
- flint
- sandstone (grinding)
- copper tube + abrasive (drilling the pupil)
The participants:
- Nikolay Vasyutin
- Alexander Sokolov
- Oleg Kruglyakov
- Vitaliy Krauss
Camera and edit: Vitaliy Krauss ‪@ScienceVideoLab‬, Ksenya Ablez
Music: ‪@Senmuth‬
English translation: Maria Shatulina
English voiceover: Dmitry Oliferovich
Spanish subtitles: Luca
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How did the ancients cut stone?
#AncientTechnology #AncientArtifacts #ExperimentalArchaeology
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The premiere of the video was held at the Forum "Scientists Against Myths-7" on October the 21th, 2017 in Moscow.
Forum Organizer: ANTROPOGENEZ.RU
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@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
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@khopeshkmt991
@khopeshkmt991 3 жыл бұрын
A great thank you from all Egyptians. Russian people prove over and over that they care about historical truth. You are welcome in our hearts and our country dear friends.
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
@@khopeshkmt991 Thank you! We returned from Egypt a week ago. We love your country very much.
@grahamhill8280
@grahamhill8280 3 жыл бұрын
I love your work. I carve granite and dolerite on the beach at Wherrytown in Cornwall, UK. I will say be careful of the dust, particularly from the flint. The Brandon flint knappers worked indoors to make gunflints and did not live to old age from silicosis. Thinking of you
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamhill8280 Thank you! Can I look at your works?
@grahamhill8280
@grahamhill8280 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScientistsAgainstMyths Sorry I have nothing online to show, but will look into this. I split tough small available flint beach pebbles using the bipolar technique (pebble between fingers and impact from hardest dolerite hammerstone on similar large anvil stone). I hold flint between fingers just above granite and hammer it with a dolerite or quartz hammerstone (slips less as slightly crumbly and damages struck flint less). The flint naturally flakes and discarding the shards as I go, end up with a flattish fragment too small to use between fingers. I would use an all flint attack rather than saving it for final work, however flint is only an occasional find on this beach.
@vashman01
@vashman01 Жыл бұрын
Just had to use this prove a point. I got the "give me ONE video of someone carving granite with copper tools." Thank you.
@hj210
@hj210 6 ай бұрын
NOBODY CAN DO IT. It would take far to much time and effort
@hj210
@hj210 6 ай бұрын
And they want us to believe all 7 pyramids in Egyptian plateau were built within a 100 year time frame 😂
@sharimeline3077
@sharimeline3077 6 ай бұрын
@@hj210 Only they DID do it. They had lots of chisels, and a team of people sharpening them as soon as they went dull. They rotated out chisels quickly. It's not too hard to understand.
@hj210
@hj210 5 ай бұрын
@@sharimeline3077 that doesn't explain the logistics of how they quarried, shipped, and maneuvered then into place.
@hj210
@hj210 5 ай бұрын
@sharimeline3077 Yeah you can shape a stone with a Chisle, it's a time and logistic problem.
@abhrashakya8005
@abhrashakya8005 3 жыл бұрын
Wow impressive. Here in India we have many architectural wonders. Unscientific peoples are arguing god made them.. your channel is serving science and humanity very well.
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nseven1117
@nseven1117 3 жыл бұрын
it wasn't the gods who built them, it was aliens and their highly advanced technology of flint, wood, and copper
@DilbertMuc
@DilbertMuc 2 жыл бұрын
@@nseven1117 Weren't the aliens not those nomadic folks from the Levante that worked for the Pharao and who later on emigrated from Egypt by their leader Moses back to the Levante and founded their own state?
@nseven1117
@nseven1117 2 жыл бұрын
@@DilbertMuc oh no, they were not nomadic. they went there because one of their relatives just happened to work for the previews pharaoh and gained special privileges until they made too many babies
@DilbertMuc
@DilbertMuc 2 жыл бұрын
@@nseven1117 So in a way the local Egyptian population saw a typical migrants problem with anchor babies and had to act quickly... sounds familiar! 😅
@gorillaguerillaDK
@gorillaguerillaDK 3 жыл бұрын
So, how long have you been living among the earthlings?
@LisaAnn777
@LisaAnn777 2 жыл бұрын
I know I've been living among them for almost 30 years now, and they haven't got the slightest clue😅
@gorillaguerillaDK
@gorillaguerillaDK 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisaAnn777 Don’t worry, I’ve been among them for more than 50 years, and yes, they are completely clueless, running around and chasing flying geese and calling them "UFO's"
@vodkaboy
@vodkaboy Жыл бұрын
underrated comment. we can send people to the moon, map the entire planet via satellites, go to the other side of the globes in hours, but some people can't accept that our ancestors were pretty crafty, intelligent, and capable. I still think there is some kind of contempt for ancient civilizations and humankind in general. maddening for people that dedicated there life to understand our world/universe better.
@gorillaguerillaDK
@gorillaguerillaDK Жыл бұрын
@@vodkaboy A lot of the "reluctance" towards accepting people being intelligent and capable of doing great things sadly has a lot to do with the fact that some people can't accept the idea that it wasn't always Europeans who did it. Having huge ancient civilizations in the Americas, Asia, and Africa doesn't fit the narrative of superior Europeans, (aka "white people"), so either it must have been aliens, or long lost "white races" from places now vanished - or maybe both. I've often debated some of these types on Social Media platforms like KZfaq and the old G+ and a lot of these types I've encountered denounced the scientific theory of evolution and especially the theory of human origin in Africa... And most of them were definitely "white" - or found some reason to elevate their "race" as being something extraordinary, so a few "black supremacist" and "Asian supremacist", (usually Chinese), as well. So a lot of the conspiracy assumptions we see is definitely closely tied to racist beliefs... Sadly still a common trait among the humans... 😜
@gorillaguerillaDK
@gorillaguerillaDK Жыл бұрын
@@ScreamingEagleFTW OMFG, no doubt that one of us seriously need to look up what the actual definition of racism is - and it isn’t me! "Your hatred for white people is obvious" - LMFAO NO, I don’t "hate white people", I have absolutely no reason to "hate white people" - as a tall blond Scandinavian dude, I feel pretty comfortable being "white people" - however, I do despise racism, and I do despise idiotic snowflakes who wanna insist that me pointing out how a certain online behaviour is rooted in racism and bigotry, is somehow me being "extremely racist"! Why I despise such completely bonkers buffoonery, you might ask; (or you might not, I don’t really care since you’ve already shown a behaviour making sure to utterly destroy any chance of me caring about your opinion), it’s very simple, it’s because I have no room for intellectual dishonesty, especially not of this lazy and absolutely ignorant kind!
@evbbjones7
@evbbjones7 3 жыл бұрын
Man it's really nice to have a video clip to show people who have complete doubts that flint can't cut granite. It's frustrating how many people will reference a 'hardness scale' and then completely misunderstand how it works and the contents within.
@Tr1Hard777
@Tr1Hard777 2 жыл бұрын
Native american also shape celts and grooved axes like this. And use wood dowels and sand to drill stone.
@alexanderzerka8477
@alexanderzerka8477 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if they have no experience banging rocks together. Am I in some kind of minority in having done stuff like that as kid when playing outdoors?
@NIBURU96
@NIBURU96 Жыл бұрын
How did they polish it smooth and shiny then
@ewanfinlayson3520
@ewanfinlayson3520 Жыл бұрын
@@NIBURU96 sand and water
@wilhelmbeck8498
@wilhelmbeck8498 Жыл бұрын
@@NIBURU96 Water, of course - like you see in the video ( ! ) The polishing/levelling, is the most time-consuming part of such work - not much fun for academians
@alexr1934
@alexr1934 Жыл бұрын
How you were able to capture these ancient aliens on film I'll never understand.
@ZeroOneInfinity
@ZeroOneInfinity 7 ай бұрын
Lol this quality is of no comparison to the pre dynastic Egyptian artifacts, to even hint that it's anywhere close is frankly insulting to the ancients.
@itrig7679
@itrig7679 7 ай бұрын
@@ZeroOneInfinityFor a first try it’s not bad
@dennisjames3711
@dennisjames3711 16 күн бұрын
and now make another one symmetrically the same hahaha This quality is poor, that's not it. in addition, they make small decorations like in the black pyramidion. Make a huge head of Ramses perfectly symmetrical hahaha
@dennisjames3711
@dennisjames3711 16 күн бұрын
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE TOOLS, IT'S ABOUT THE SYMMETRIC QUALITY OF THE WORKMANSHIP. IF I HIT THE HAMMER BADLY ONCE, IT WON'T COME OUT SYMMETRICLY. YOU HAVEN'T PROVEN ANYTHING
@abeare9616
@abeare9616 Жыл бұрын
What struck me when I went to Egypt were the precise edges. The gliphs on the obelisks had a machined look. This is a really good effort in a short time. However, I'd really like to see a demo that comes even close to how precise the Egyptian work is. I noticed your edges are really ragged. Did they achieve this with very careful abrasion after having chipped out the shape? How did they do this for hundreds of symbols all the way up an obelisk without a single chip out?
@chefdusse
@chefdusse Жыл бұрын
well for starters these dudes did this first try. you gotta figure it Egyptians had professionals that were doing this for generations
@Jack9N
@Jack9N Жыл бұрын
@@chefdusse I cut granite everyday, polished too, years of work, and I still don’t think we can cut internal corners, fully polished like we see in kings chamber sarcophagus, and many other granite pieces around the area. This job here looks really rough, I know it’s their first go but regardless, if your using flint your always going to have blow outs, which are imperfections along the edges due to its mixed composition. Without diamond tipped rotary tools I can’t see how you could achieve such precision on such a hard yet fragile material. Even with our cnc saws we have blow outs and have to pick pieces up and glue them back into the stone edge to keep it looking natural.
@Jack9N
@Jack9N Жыл бұрын
Actually I’ll rephrase that, we don’t cut internal corners because the tools we use aren’t precise enough, but I can only imagine something like a little diamond tipped dremel drill could finish internal corners and polish them. Otherwise the min radius we can get is 5mm with a small rebate tool on the cnc machine.
@mikev4621
@mikev4621 Жыл бұрын
@@Jack9N what is cnc?
@Jack9N
@Jack9N Жыл бұрын
@@mikev4621 computer numerical control. Runs off g code. We do not have to g code anymore for cutting though, that’s for the guys that fix the machines now. So basically a computer reads what I draw on autocad from a dxf file which is just lines in 2d, and the cnc machine cuts it to size, and to the angle I tell it to cut, & hopefully perfectly. So cnc accounts for all our machines with a head that moves, like a waterjet, a 5 axis bridge saw, or a cnc router (which is like a milling tool, that picks up different tools for whatever we need it for, edgework or holes)
@GRMNCVS
@GRMNCVS 17 күн бұрын
I was just watching another video and thought, "hey what if you could use flint to carve granite or andesite" and here we are. Thank you very much, lads
@AncientArchitects
@AncientArchitects 3 жыл бұрын
This was amazing. I can’t answer the ‘how’ question for this stuff as although I’m a geologist, I’m not a stonemason. But that looks like a damn good effort. I’m interested to hear both sides of the argument always. I don’t like mystery, I prefer answers but can never solve the question of ‘how’ myself. The stone walls of Peru, for example - they’re vast and so intricate. What is your opinion on these?
@jamesmccreery250
@jamesmccreery250 3 жыл бұрын
The ancient Peruvians may have had pyrite based paste that would partially dissolve the stone.
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
The existence of "paste that would partially dissolve the stone" is not proven by anything. "Intricate stones" are obtained when to make stones of the correct shape is too hard. Labor costs for cutting a block of the correct shape are higher. Look: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_stone
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
For thousands of years, people have been giving the stone _any_ desired shape without any mythical paste. It is useful to look at old photos: pierres-info.fr/cartes_postales_1/index.html
@JoeSkylynx
@JoeSkylynx 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScientistsAgainstMyths people seem to forget that stones have fracture points, and if none are present... Make them. I mean christ, the Romans and Chinese used to wipe out entire mountain ranges with water and gravity.
@trader2137
@trader2137 3 жыл бұрын
hi Matthew, would be great if you could check out his playlist: kzfaq.info/sun/PL47iaGB6hlT5sYZWd_G7sHg9cSRv6WWS6 hes aggregated his videos and debunks ancient lost technology by providing scientific and archeological evidence
@bumboclat
@bumboclat 2 жыл бұрын
People tend to forget what can be archieved if you add decades, unlimited manpower and skills honed over many generations.
@BSIII
@BSIII Жыл бұрын
Definitely! And on a grand scope of things, we can see the progression of stone work quality from the time periods.
@steviechampagne
@steviechampagne Жыл бұрын
bullshit. you’re not cutting vases out of diorite with “unlimited manpower”
@Serenemindspace8
@Serenemindspace8 Жыл бұрын
Rrrrrrrrrrrrr wrong
@manbearpig710
@manbearpig710 Жыл бұрын
@@BSIII not in Egypt u can’t lol
@nosondre
@nosondre Жыл бұрын
That’s a logical thought process… So why would the quality of workmanship decrease over time? Counterintuitive.
@captainbeeflaps5612
@captainbeeflaps5612 3 жыл бұрын
Brian Forrester wants to know your location😂
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
Let him come)
@4ur3n
@4ur3n 3 жыл бұрын
haha Brien's fans are even worse
@johndobbie528
@johndobbie528 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at most of the granite and other carvings it seems that they were scratch engraved with a sharp outline first ,possibly with a piece of gemstone mounted on a stick like a lapidarist's dop stick, the rest may have been worked in a similar way to the demonstration. Earlier Sumerian engravings were mostly just outlines but had similar characteristics.
@AdvancedLiving
@AdvancedLiving 3 жыл бұрын
But but but... Jimmy hit a rock with another rock and said it was stupid. Do you guys even have a hat? He has a hat, so he must be the expert. I’m kidding, of course. Seriously, you guys are great, thanks for stuff like this.
@4ur3n
@4ur3n 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy hit the rock with his head
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 10 ай бұрын
Clearly, aliens made the researchers.
@uttcftptid4481
@uttcftptid4481 3 жыл бұрын
Ancient High Technology! We've finally found it! : )
@jayc4562
@jayc4562 Жыл бұрын
The myth is that you could get an optically flat surface with 90 degree corners, polished, using this method. Dream on. Technology cannot reproduce this today.
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
I rather think the myth you speak of is the one whereby people comically assume that these Egyptian artifacts are as "precise" as claimed on the internet - which of course they are not. There coincidentally are videos to be found here as well which debunk such characterizations. So they were less precise than some assume and were entirely possible to create using the tools at hand. Garbage in ------> Garbage out. 🤨
@DilbeardAlbeard
@DilbeardAlbeard Жыл бұрын
Thanks, completely cleared my doubts of Ancient Egyptians skilled slave labors are responsible to construct huge megalithic structures with elaborate arts all over it, simply by having several men using flint to chisel a very simple eye. Wow, such a great proof, really impressed.
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and about the sculptures of Michelangelo it was necessary to add
@DilbeardAlbeard
@DilbeardAlbeard Жыл бұрын
@@ScientistsAgainstMyths Dude, Michaelangelo is working with Marble, don't mix marble with Granite.
@njm3211
@njm3211 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Traces of corundum were found on a tube drill sample from ancient Egypt. Thant's much harder than flint. I'm sure that skilled craftsmen with purpose built tools could have etched the inscriptions found on obelisks and other monuments.
@nathanballentyne
@nathanballentyne 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always facsinated by this type of experiment. People with the same tools and unlimited time and no one threatening them to work harder and they still can't come up with even a fraction of the craftsmanship that the Egyptians did. I'm not saying this isn't how they could have done it, I just don't see anymore evidence to suggest they did this over using different methods. If this is convinces you that they built the entire grandeur of the Egyptian civilization by banging two rocks together like this then I'm truly sorry.
@sadhu7191
@sadhu7191 2 жыл бұрын
Haha poor people built them. I think to build stone structures world wide u would need international trade, boats, type of car.
@vodkaboy
@vodkaboy Жыл бұрын
"unlimited time and no one threatening them to work harder" lmao
@bluegent7
@bluegent7 28 күн бұрын
Finally, we get to see ancient astronauts.
@nicholasaramirez885
@nicholasaramirez885 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, now cut a 12ft solid granite block hollowed out and completely smooth inside and out, with 90° cuts. This seems pointless, like we know they knew how to work stone, that's not at all the mystery.
@rommelsnaiser4324
@rommelsnaiser4324 3 жыл бұрын
now lets cut a 2m X 2m X 4M block of granite, and move it with an entire palm as a lever.
@TheYolo20
@TheYolo20 6 ай бұрын
sure give me 10 thousand men 3 months and 2 million dollars in coppor, wood and stone
@andrevdv1171
@andrevdv1171 Ай бұрын
Exactly. Debunking is so easy to prove on an ashtray size piece of granite with editing. Show us 30 to eighty ton. And how you separated it from the mine?
@Tater4200
@Tater4200 Жыл бұрын
"DURRR THEY HAD TO HAVE MACHINESSS TO DO THIS STUFF DURRRRR"...just goes to show how dumb these conspiracy people really are... they did this and they aren't even experts.. the people of the past had EXTREME SKILL..because they did it their ENTIRE LIVES...and so did their ancestors
@afkbrb123
@afkbrb123 Жыл бұрын
In the future after the collapse of modern civilization: this is like throwing a ladder across a narrow creek and saying: “See? This is how they could have built the Golden Gate Bridge.” Only not really, because without constant maintenance the Golden Gate Bridge would collapse, unlike the pyramids which have retained their structural integrity on their own for thousands of years.
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
Blocks stacked one atop another require no maintenance........... So long as man does not purposely destroy them or a powerful earthquake causes structural failure - which the design and weight of the pyramids help to mitigate = they will sit there as always.
@taylorgall9516
@taylorgall9516 2 жыл бұрын
And this is how solid Basalt Hindu caves were carved out of the mountain, by picking up a Flintstone and hitting the mountain over and over.
@pharoaher3190
@pharoaher3190 3 жыл бұрын
This is not cutting granite it’s scratching the surface which is already well documented and clearly evidenced they did I would love to see a meaningful “cut” done with these techniques. That being said I do appreciate the video and demonstration. Keep it up
@pavel9652
@pavel9652 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't you watch another video about cutting then? Let me guess, you will want to see them cutting 80-ton block in flip-flops in the knee-high desert sand and when dehydrated? ;)
@pavel9652
@pavel9652 2 жыл бұрын
​@@pharoaher3190 So they have a 1-year old video where they cut the granite slab with a copper saw and abrasive.
@sadhu7191
@sadhu7191 2 жыл бұрын
I saw big granite companies cutting stone blocks with water and sand machine if iam correct. Took forever. It's on youtube. Doesi.t explain the pyramids but that kitchen looked nice
@maximus-6788
@maximus-6788 11 ай бұрын
so those companies is still cutting one block?@@sadhu7191
@balisto8374
@balisto8374 9 ай бұрын
@@pavel9652 the result is ugly tho, can they make something beautiful like this ? i doubt
@jjbrowned313
@jjbrowned313 Жыл бұрын
Well it's a possible answer to some of the questions, but the large stones that are cut and placed in the middle of giza pyramids is still a wonder.
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
Not really. The largest/heaviest stones found in the Great Pyramid = are below the halfway point. Also the pyramid itself rests atop an elevated area of the plateau while the main quarry was a few hundred meters away to the south - slightly lower. So the natural rise leading up to the pyramid from the quarry area invariably was part of the ramp used to raise those blocks you refer to. Above the level of the King's Chamber the pyramid blocks become smaller as it rises in height. 🤔
@aarenmyatt4509
@aarenmyatt4509 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately people like mysteries and can't believe that all it takes is time and labour.
@meditationmusicbyalexjackson
@meditationmusicbyalexjackson 2 жыл бұрын
Except few flint shards have been found. Did the masons also use flint or chert to drill holes?
@6erny6urns
@6erny6urns 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! Frankly, finally rational and authentic humans who seek to prove themselves instead of trying to convince others. Thank you for being so amazing!
@matveyshishov
@matveyshishov 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job, thank you for the great fact checking! Your eye even looks great by itself with no regards to ancient Egypt.
@matveyshishov
@matveyshishov 2 жыл бұрын
@Art of War Sure, but we need more people to be brave and try reproducing the ancient artifacts before we know what's possible. Anybody can sit in their chair and claim "ancient hi tech civilization did it" or "it was done with bronze tools obviously", but very few are brave and diligent enough to put time and effort into experimental archaeology, to show to the rest of the planet what result we can and what we can not expect from particular methods, so that we can compare and contrast. I applaud the guys and a patreon of them.
@rockerobertson4002
@rockerobertson4002 2 жыл бұрын
There are very clear signs of sharp saws being used. We know this. It's a fact. Chisels here and there. But big cuts are saws. Now... bronze age... no diamonds . Not sure what kind of saw would work.
@Zane-It
@Zane-It Жыл бұрын
the way i flint knap is very different to your method. you guys are amazing keep it up I learned about this channel from SGD
@EricBishard
@EricBishard 3 ай бұрын
Understand that we know ancient Egyptian civilizations had amazing techniques for finishing granite, even if we don't know the secrets it's very possible a lot of the carvings started out like this and we are just missing the polishing technique. Still pretty cool
@anthonypolonkay2681
@anthonypolonkay2681 Жыл бұрын
This is a good proof of concept. But if I'm being g honest it falls very short of the good smooth detail we see on many glyphs in Egypt. To prove the method one must be able to mimic all the characteristics of the glyphs. Not just achieve a somewhat similar picture relief in stone.
@markgallagher5908
@markgallagher5908 Жыл бұрын
How would you expect one or two people to be able to perfectly replicate these carvings? This isn't their full time job however if it was and they were sufficiently trained and they practiced for long enough there is no reason why they couldn't accomplish something similar. The Egyptians were perfecting their crafts and methods for hundreds of years and they were doing so with large numbers of people so of course their results were better than what a couple of lads achieved.
@anthonypolonkay2681
@anthonypolonkay2681 Жыл бұрын
@@markgallagher5908 that's a valid point but it doesn't diminish mine. They Still have to achieve far more comparable a result to make it any kind of sufficient evidence. Trying to say this proves how they were carved in such staggering detail is the exact same as saying that since we have seen people use building block and brick in constriction on smaller scales that there is no mystery as to how the transport of the large multihundred ton blocks the pyramids are made of were transported, and built with. Obviously they were carved transported on site, and laid one upon another until the project was complete. There's obviously some large technicalities that are being skipped over in such an explanation, and the same is true for thier crude carving vs the very detailed smooth finished relief products we see in actual hyroglyphs.
@markgallagher5908
@markgallagher5908 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonypolonkay2681 They showed that the carving can be done with their method and the only thing missing is the quality of the work but giving the time constraints that's understandable. They didn't need to complete a Michelangelo level sculpture, they only needed to show how it can be done using their techniques. The building of the pyramids required workers with a diverse range of skill sets that no one person or small group of people could attain. If you need to be shown how every step in the pyramid construction works then you may be in for a long wait because we may never know precisely how it was all accomplished.
@Jorgytonton
@Jorgytonton Жыл бұрын
Loads of people are out here saying this can’t be done. And here we have it before your very eyes. It’s a shame people can’t be bothered to do any actual research :( Thank you for making this video!!!!!
@TheVaged
@TheVaged Жыл бұрын
No one's saying it can't be done, everyone is saying the precision is the question. You're very, very confused, Kade.
@MaliciousMollusc
@MaliciousMollusc 2 ай бұрын
"it was aliens!" 😂
@soultraveller5027
@soultraveller5027 4 ай бұрын
It is according to expert Egyptologists that it took Ancient Egyptian engineers with a labour force of 100,000 20 years to cut granite stone, shape, dress, transport via river on barges , hauled on to logs then hauled along using rope and huge gangs of men to pull along to the site and placed perfectly in position the block of granite could weight from 1.5 tons tp 80 tons, and the accuracy of the cutting , dressing of the stone ,was so impressive modern building engineers could not better it, 4 thousands or more years ago just using primitive tools and soft alloy metal copper and stone hammers,.... remarkable
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 4 ай бұрын
Amazing in that everything you just stated = is wrong........ - remarkable. 🙄
@moemuggy4971
@moemuggy4971 2 жыл бұрын
Laughing at all the alien pyramid engineers that couldn't imagine doing something so hard from their moms basement. 🤣
@bobbygetsbanned6049
@bobbygetsbanned6049 Жыл бұрын
Now do the exact same engraving on the opposite side of an elaborate sculpture and have it come out identically.
@pablo321123
@pablo321123 9 ай бұрын
Can you provide an example?
@TheYolo20
@TheYolo20 6 ай бұрын
Which sculpture has ever been made of granite?
@blanketstarry7725
@blanketstarry7725 3 ай бұрын
You don't think they had masters of their craft in ancient Egypt?
@bobon123
@bobon123 Ай бұрын
It is super easy, you just use a wooden drawing stencil. You draw the shape you are interested into, you cut the wood, and you chisel inside the hole: same exact drawing as many times as you need it.
@ValeriePallaoro
@ValeriePallaoro 2 ай бұрын
Flint is a quartz type rock that occurs in limestone layers. So, given the abundant layers of limestone and the chemical sedimentation of flint, Egyptians had a ready resource for use in carving. Flint has a Mohs hardness of 7 and can be chipped easily to a point because of its concoidal fracture capability. Pink granite has an overall average of 6 on the same scale. Since the scale is logarithmic the flint is 10 times harder than the granite. As is seen here, it's quite easy to use, what's called, pecking to chip away the granite and reveal the picture intended. Bloody nice job all round really. You are my new favourite bois!!
@AlbertaGeek
@AlbertaGeek 11 күн бұрын
Just to clear up a common misconception: Hardness - resistance to abrasion - is irrelevant to sculpting stone. Toughness - resistance to fracture - is what matters.
@flightographist
@flightographist Жыл бұрын
Great work! I think if you adorned yourselves in otherworldly priestly garb, had an eyeball in the middle of your foreheads, and say 3 set of arms, you would persuade more of the alternate history knuckleheads.
@derekk.2263
@derekk.2263 3 жыл бұрын
So now we know the ancient aliens would have merely needed flint to build the pyramids.
@pharoaher3190
@pharoaher3190 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@David35687
@David35687 2 жыл бұрын
But it was magic flint. It magically cut millions of blocks and then when the magic flint was used up and throw into a pile, the flint piles magically disappeared.
@vodkaboy
@vodkaboy Жыл бұрын
moving goalposts, it's endless with the Internet.
@bluebukkitdev8069
@bluebukkitdev8069 Жыл бұрын
Really impressive. I've been doing alot of masonry recently and have experience in flintknapping but somehow I never put the two together.
@wilhelmederveen9265
@wilhelmederveen9265 Жыл бұрын
Ahaa! Now it is obvious. You see you can not do it without advanced technology either! No way the Egyptians had advanced watersprayers like that.
@fredbarr394
@fredbarr394 Жыл бұрын
And there are flint chips aplenty at the quarries ? I'm not saying that this method isn't feasible but there would have to be evidence to back it up
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын
Yes. Denys Stocks noted this in his articles.
@erickfragata7975
@erickfragata7975 Жыл бұрын
Tired of people who'd say it was made by powertools of some kind yet when at the time, there were no electricity, steel, complex machines, fossil fuel let alone aliens.. The artisans of the writings on stone lived at the bronze age longer than we are at the iron age..it is just natural that they can make perfect work with stone with the tremendous skills that they possess at the time. From their childhood, they worked rocks with bronzes and stones, because no more sophisticated material was available to work with!
@SacredGeometryDecoded
@SacredGeometryDecoded 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, I have seen all these videos on your other channel. I hope you put more of those into this channel. It's hard to find them on your anthropogenez channel because they are titled in Russian
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
We will gradually translate everything into English
@dbnzt
@dbnzt Жыл бұрын
Cool bro. we gon need 5 million blocks and a few 80 ton ones.
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths Жыл бұрын
5 million _granite_ blocks? Show me
@weareallbeingwatched4602
@weareallbeingwatched4602 Жыл бұрын
I personally believe that the Egyptians used gemstones and gemstone-embedded stones for fine work. Embedding a gemstone or flint into a bone like an archer's arrow is all that's required.
@alwayscensored6871
@alwayscensored6871 3 жыл бұрын
Lost technology? Not anymore. Still waiting for them to solve polygonal stonework.
@javiergarza8626
@javiergarza8626 3 жыл бұрын
Can i tell my idea of how polygonal stone work might have been achieved? I think it might sound stupid
@javiergarza8626
@javiergarza8626 3 жыл бұрын
I think they used wooden fittings first, cut the desired shape. Make sure it fits the area they want to set the rock on, then they would transfer those dimensions on to the the boulder, shape it. Then set the boulder down on top. That way there's no trial and error picking up and setting down massive stones over and over as some people say since they used wooden fittings first.
@alwayscensored6871
@alwayscensored6871 3 жыл бұрын
@@javiergarza8626 Now that make good sense. A giant pantograph copy machine. Just heard about hardened copper tools. I know they had tin exports worldwide, from Cornwall and Peru etc. Copper n tin make bronze. Did they have a version harder than steel? Gold is a good infrared reflector, giant gold mirrors focusing the sun, melt or ablate stone?
@javiergarza8626
@javiergarza8626 3 жыл бұрын
@@alwayscensored6871 hold on, heating up stone to melt it will simply turn it into a glass like substance like obsidian. I never believed into the whole acid or heating up rock. But they might have had a liquid that turns Rock soft like clay enough to make cuts and shapes, but it's hard to belive. I'll send you a link for proof this video will make you wonder. It looks like they were using a saw with some liquid running down as they where cutting. I guess they lost control of the cut and how much of this mystery chemical they poured that it ran down the whole tomb. The tomb is obviously scraped since they messed up the cut
@lonl123
@lonl123 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to try this and make my own sculptures...how long did it take you'all to finish? Makes you really impressed with the stoneworking skills of the Egyptians...I bet their most skilled masons were held in high regard, much like they are in our time.
@pavel9652
@pavel9652 2 жыл бұрын
Better use some proper tools, unless you want to replicate the method. Modern tools are insanely fast, but still working with stone is relatively painfull.
@curiousbystander9193
@curiousbystander9193 2 жыл бұрын
they won;t tell you cause it took days and days.....and is just ok as far as rendering something....just marginally proves the point that flint was used to make much of what we see..
@lonl123
@lonl123 2 жыл бұрын
@@curiousbystander9193 Since I made the comment a year or so ago, I have been tinkering with stone working. It is really, really hard to work hard stones with other stones...just trying to grind the rock I have into a square shape....it has taken me a few months just tinkering around, but I almost have my square..well rectangle really...its kind of relaxing to sit in the back yard and grind the rock on my "Grind Stone". I could see though how people in ancient times who were master craftsman were held in high regard..cause its time consuming as shit. Not sure I am going to do anything with it after I get the rectangle....maybe try and cut a hole with it using a rock drill.....but that might be more than my patience will allow. :)
@alexanderzerka8477
@alexanderzerka8477 2 жыл бұрын
@@lonl123 But imagine committing your life to it, starting from a young age, with a wealthy society organized around producing one great project at a time, supporting this unknown number of craftsmen whose work is their entire identity and life, feeding them, providing their tools and materials, enabling them to be as productive as they can be, which is already much greater than that of any person of our time who hasn't dedicated their entire life to both perfecting it and reaching levels of speed and efficiency while doing so you probably can't visualize without years of experience and vast knowledge about and deep familiarity with available tools, materials, and techniques, gathered, curated, and distributed by that same wealthy and literate society.
@lonl123
@lonl123 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderzerka8477 Exactly...I'm sure Masons and other craftsman were what we might consider in our time as "Upper Middle Class"...not super rich (Though I'm sure there were some that were, much like some of our artists in our day) but well to do. They have been finding a lot of burials recently of craftsman and they had fairly elaborate tombs. They were just like us...which is one of the things that makes it even more interesting to me....They made very beautiful things that were so well made they have lasted till our time and still astound us with their craftsmanship...I wish the fucking Alien people would see the truth of it....I find that they were just like you and me even more awesome than it was some Crazy Alien race that for whatever reason liked to make Egyptian stuff....which is fucking ridiculous.
@FLAGMACHINE11
@FLAGMACHINE11 16 күн бұрын
Looks even older than the originals! Great work
@MagnificoGiganticus
@MagnificoGiganticus Жыл бұрын
I love this!
@AncientAdvancedCiv
@AncientAdvancedCiv 2 жыл бұрын
impact carving relies on the path of weakness in the rock. You can remove material even with weaker stones and metals if you simply accept removal of material along its natural path of weakness. You are demonstrating the compromise involved in impact carving. You have no control. How did ancients completely contrive specific paths, not dependent on the materials flawed structure? based on your method, the ancients could have used your method to remove surrounding material, but would have had to have stopped well above the depth at which an impact could render material anywhere near the actual final surface of the carving. And at that point, they would have had to resort to extremely slow rendering, wearing down their tools orders of magnitude faster than the actual granite material they were carving. In this way, simply smooth carvings would have taken excessively long periods of time that would make this approach insane and completely inappropriate. But for 'debunkers' it is fun to pretend to have solved the mysteries that have confounded smarter people for millennium. Enjoy your fantasy.
@bluebukkitdev8069
@bluebukkitdev8069 Жыл бұрын
Flint and granite are both primarily quartz, though granite also has softer materials such as feldspar and mica. I would argue that the tools would NOT wear down faster than the material they were working.
@erichamilton8952
@erichamilton8952 10 күн бұрын
You're talking out of your ass bud.
@mattmasterson4648
@mattmasterson4648 3 жыл бұрын
I think the issue most people have is that this method would take an extremely long time to carve/polish each stone, then transporting and elevating the stones to place them is still a challenge. When most people say "lost technology" they aren't referring to some sci fi type of tool. A process to form the blocks using concrete would fall under this category. Using channels of water to move them would fall there as well. The point is, how they were built wasn't documented and replicating them today is a difficult task even with our machinery. This doesn't mean aliens exist or there was a super advanced civilization. It simply means they must have had some method that we haven't thought about. IF they carved and moved every block by hand, what was the purpose? The work force and time it would have taken just doesn't make sense unless they served a purpose. These guys showed that it's possible to carve an image into a block. That's a far cry from explaining how or why millions of blocks were carved, transported and stacked.
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
> These guys showed that it's possible to carve an image into a block. That's a far cry from explaining how or why millions of blocks were carved, transported and stacked. What a wise thought! Carving an image and moving blocks are not the same thing. Bravo
@mattmasterson4648
@mattmasterson4648 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScientistsAgainstMyths what a respectful and well thought out response! Bravo.
@hans-joachimbierwirth4727
@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 3 жыл бұрын
Millions? Where the heck are those millions of polished blocks you are talking about?
@mattmasterson4648
@mattmasterson4648 3 жыл бұрын
@@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 the pyramids are made up of the millions of blocks I am talking about. Sure, they aren't granite but the question remains the same.
@hans-joachimbierwirth4727
@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 3 жыл бұрын
Those are unpolished limestone blocks, quick and easy to carve. Less of a problem than i. e. the Chinese wall.
@JulianH-co7qg
@JulianH-co7qg Жыл бұрын
These guys think chipping a peice of granite solves the mystery of how ancient Egyptians were able to carve stone that was 1000 tons, 29.9 feet high and 207 cm in width.
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
🥱 You newly created sockpuppet trolls simply have to come up with something new......
@chrischrz6064
@chrischrz6064 Жыл бұрын
Hey do you have a video showing how Ancient Egyptians cut large blocks of stone using available tools like you just did with this?
@DrWoog
@DrWoog Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rc9ioaZl3M24Zpc.html
@chrisparker2118
@chrisparker2118 Жыл бұрын
No, because they'll have to resort to modern tools. No one has been able to actually recreate everything we see in Egypt. This video proved nothing. We already know how Egyptian engraved into granite. All the inscriptions found match crude techniques. However, the quality of the inscription does not match the quality of many of the objects themselves.
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын
@@chrisparker2118 If you want a large block, you split it that way and then perform any follow up work as required. No modern machines required.
@markgallagher5908
@markgallagher5908 Жыл бұрын
@@Eyes_Open The simplest explanation is usually the correct one but the pyramidiots would rather invoke aliens instead.
@KurticeYZreacts
@KurticeYZreacts 3 жыл бұрын
AMAZING WORK YALL
@thylacinenv
@thylacinenv 3 жыл бұрын
These guys are genius! Sneaky suggestion.....is it possible to secretly attach your demonstrations piggy-back fashion onto the ends of Ancient Architects, Unknown X, Bright Insight efforts?
@AncientArchitects
@AncientArchitects 3 жыл бұрын
For the record, I do think there is a logical explanation for all we see and I’ve been subscribed to this channel for a long time :) This was amazing.
@thylacinenv
@thylacinenv 3 жыл бұрын
@@AncientArchitects interest in Egyptology is to be applauded however disciples of Mr Hancock in the form of bedroom researcher's frequently condemn the "mainstream" scientific community for their reluctance in accepting their preposterous views. Science is for grownups where findings are subject to peer review and constant reappraisal. One thing common to many of these pseudoscience KZfaq channels is that any challenge to their content is either removed or blocked, I'm sure Mr Sibson you will agree this is not the way to conduct scientific analysis.
@AncientArchitects
@AncientArchitects 3 жыл бұрын
@@thylacinenv I don’t block, and I am happy to engage in discussion. I started my channel very much ‘alternative’ but the more time I’ve invested in research and reading, as viewers have seen, the less alternative my ideas have become. I’ve said this on my channel a number of times over the past 12 months. Ancient Architects really is a reflection of my own thinking, it reflects my own level of knowledge and learning. As many have seen, I’m happy to accept Khufu built the Great Pyramid unless somebody can show me compelling, dateable evidence to the contrary. I’m happy to believe Sacsayhuaman was built 1100 AD unless someone can prove otherwise. I have lost many subscribers in the past 12 months but also gained a lot. Whether my own ideas are right or wrong, I am always approaching it from an honest position and will never present an idea if I don’t believe in it at the time of publication. 👍
@AncientArchitects
@AncientArchitects 3 жыл бұрын
And just to add: Sometimes I will give my own perspective and interpretation but I will only use evidence - scientific, archaeological, historical as a basis. I used to say the Great Pyramid could have been a water pump. Then I researched it in detail and realised that this is impossible. I do want answers to the so-called mysteries, hence subscribing to this channel and their demonstrations are pretty incredible. 👍
@thylacinenv
@thylacinenv 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for your reply, your site is always informative.
@dmcq7271
@dmcq7271 28 күн бұрын
They need to match the 90 degree angles found in Egyptian granite. No way the Egyptians made such precision cuts with flint tools like those unless they were coated with diamonds.
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 27 күн бұрын
Seriously..........again......... 🥱 Show us your 90 degree angles - over an entire surface - and we'll talk. Absent that enjoy your LAHT clickbait videos where they comically hold a simple measuring device to a small area of a larger surface and = leave you to assume it applies to the entire surface area........
@SmithSmithson1
@SmithSmithson1 Жыл бұрын
Not a bad effort. Please do this over three million times on massive blocks, and cut and place them perfectly. I think this is a good effort, but not remotely plausible for the scale, precision and quantum of blocks in Egypt. Or is that just me?
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
Feel free sometime to actually look at photos/videos of the pyramids. See whereby they are anything but "perfect". In fact a plausible description would be they are "stacked rubble" once surrounded by a layer of more carefully cut & polished stone blocks. All the rest however are crudely hewn chunks of limestone of assorted shapes and sizes dropped into place leaving gaps everywhere - and stuffed into the larger gaps are globs of gypsum mortar and small chunks of quarry rubble. So only a small number of the total blocks were more carefully cut and in some cases polished = those making up the inner chambers/corridors and the last outer layers of stone - a more carefully cut limestone one upon which the final layer of polished white Tura casing stones were stacked. Look in the search box above for the following video: Arnaldo Costa Stonemason Extraordinaire. See an old man with nothing more than a sledgehammer and some chisels rapidly split a granite block into 2 clean halves = that is how most of the blocks were obtained. Using chisels and wedges they split approximate chunks from the bedrock - limestone forms in layers like a cake - to lever those onto sleds and haul them away as is. They were not individually chiseling millions of blocks. 🤔 p.s. - the exposed western base of the Great Pyramid reveals a continuous ledge of limestone. So at least some of the inner core of the pyramid was existing hillside they leveled and built atop of. Some estimates place the amount of bedrock - the lower tunnels/chamber are cut from it - at upwards of ~23% of the total volume of the pyramid.
@pranays
@pranays Жыл бұрын
Delusional comment clown
@jonkore2024
@jonkore2024 3 жыл бұрын
That explains it
@harrygreb4563
@harrygreb4563 3 жыл бұрын
Looks nothing like the real thing... not even close. But I suppose the professionals of the day would have created their own specialized tools... soooo maybe?
@wodenravens
@wodenravens 3 жыл бұрын
Don't need to match the skill. Just need to show it was possible.
@harrygreb4563
@harrygreb4563 3 жыл бұрын
@@wodenravens If they can make something that is perfectly symmetrical using that technique.. than I would say this mystery is about solved. But the fine detail work we see is perfect in every way to the naked eye... this technique isn't so far showcasing that that is possible.
@diobrando2160
@diobrando2160 3 жыл бұрын
@@harrygreb4563 No, it really isn't 'perfect in every way' or even close to symmetry. If you want to see real fine details, look at roman sculptures.
@chrisroberts4493
@chrisroberts4493 Ай бұрын
Serious question, did the ancient Egyptians ever have access to perfectly spherical copper pipe, if so, how did they make it. Thank you
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open Ай бұрын
Egyptians were smelting and working with copper before pyramids were built. Hammer out a sheet of copper and wrap around a stick to make it circular, solder the edges.
@jamesrmorris1952
@jamesrmorris1952 11 ай бұрын
that's probably how Gobekli Tepe was done
@roechambeau8420
@roechambeau8420 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. I'd like to see this done on a vertical surface if you find the time. Thank you for your hard work.
@andredeketeleastutecomplex
@andredeketeleastutecomplex Жыл бұрын
lol just lol
@EPUEPUEPUEPU
@EPUEPUEPUEPU 2 жыл бұрын
Um just curious how long did it take you to make this eye?
@clearmindscollective3127
@clearmindscollective3127 4 ай бұрын
This helps me understand the artifacts I find on our property in Scandinavia. Flint and quartz seem to be the tools of choice for shaping the granite stones/mountains. Seeing it in practice gives more of a reference as far as potential ware on tools, etc. thanks for the content!
@trader2137
@trader2137 3 жыл бұрын
meanwhile brien forester: "its impossible", "must have been ancient lost technology", "egyptians couldnt cut granite" i have no words for his idiocy
@pharoaher3190
@pharoaher3190 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not what he says….
@SacredGeometryDecoded
@SacredGeometryDecoded 3 жыл бұрын
@@pharoaher3190 That's exactly what he says, he even says the Romans couldn't polish granite because it takes "diamond technology". He even says dolorite balls are lower on Mohs Scale therefore they can't be used. And the list of absurd things he says, and still says in 2021 still goes on. The best thing he says is about the "magnetic anomalies of Puma Punku" - andesite a naturally magnetic stone is a mysterious lost ancient high technology anomaly because it effects a magnetic compass. You haven't heard him speak if you think that he doesn't say those things, they are his entire script.
@pharoaher3190
@pharoaher3190 3 жыл бұрын
@@SacredGeometryDecoded I think your grossly misinterpreting him and the things he commenting on. But you believe or misinterpret whatever you like.
@SacredGeometryDecoded
@SacredGeometryDecoded 3 жыл бұрын
@@pharoaher3190 it’s written in his books, in his lectures and his videos. I am not grossly misrepresenting him, I am quoting him. Do you need links to his videos? He was just recently on a live stream with Study of Antiquity and the Middle Ages still saying these things in 2021. It is clear and unequivocal, and not quote mining old works that he has updated. You have to be joking to make the argument of gross misrepresentation let alone modest misrepresentation. “You need diamond level technology to drill granite” “ you need diamond level technology to polish granite.” That’s the kind of thing he still says to this day. It’s impossible to misrepresent statements like that, but it takes Gold Medal level mental gymnastics to say it’s being misrepresented. It’s beyond even being ridiculous.
@pharoaher3190
@pharoaher3190 3 жыл бұрын
@@SacredGeometryDecoded I don’t want to out words in his mouth. But I think the part your misinterpreting is the what he is commenting on. The type of polishing, the type of cut, the striations etc… But again interpret however you like.
@bbbenj
@bbbenj 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@LucifersTear
@LucifersTear Жыл бұрын
Compare that to the size, scale and accuracy of ramses statues... Made entirely out of one solid block of granite with 100% symmetry... Nope; not possible.
@jonpaul3868
@jonpaul3868 Жыл бұрын
A king project. With perrenial stone workers and unlimited manpower. Do able.
@jonmoody2858
@jonmoody2858 10 ай бұрын
Idk if anyone is still argueing the point that the Egyptians carved (defaced) their very crude hieroglyphics into perfectly symmetrical statues, figures, stones, pottery left behind by the pre-dynastic civilization. I agree that the craftsmen of this time were absolutely masters of their craft. But comparing the hieroglyphs that lack the precision of the monuments they are carved into is like a slapping a bumper sticker on an exotic car and saying it came with it...
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open 10 ай бұрын
The sooner you realize that there are absolutely zero ancient examples of perfect symmetry, the sooner you will realize how you sound when you enter such comments in a reality based channel.
@jonmoody2858
@jonmoody2858 10 ай бұрын
@@Eyes_Open yawn
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open 10 ай бұрын
@@jonmoody2858 Hiding behind incredulity does not impress us.
@jonmoody2858
@jonmoody2858 10 ай бұрын
@@Eyes_Open ok cool so it still here give me a moment since you gave such a baseless response in the middle of the night LMAO imma finish this shower and I'll handle you i I suppose 😉
@jonmoody2858
@jonmoody2858 10 ай бұрын
@@Eyes_Open but also I'm not sure what your grounds for argument. I'm ready when you are. Present your argument or sit down and shut up.
@HereticalKitsune
@HereticalKitsune Жыл бұрын
So even with tools "softer" than the material one works on, there still can be amazing results, it just takes a lot of time and dedication, both were around aplenty back then. And 7 hours for this lovely eye doesn't sound too badly. I am amazed!
@mouwersor
@mouwersor Жыл бұрын
I doubt they cut the thousands and thousands of tons of granite in the pyramids this way. That seems absurdly masochistic and a huge waste of resources and time (if possible at all)
@jumpingsloth3963
@jumpingsloth3963 Жыл бұрын
@@mouwersor pyramids we're mostly limestone. Kings chamber is granite. Though there are plenty of granite carvings and pieces much much more beautiful then this eye.
@DorsetExplorers
@DorsetExplorers Жыл бұрын
@@jumpingsloth3963 there is more granite than just the kings chamber
@maximus-6788
@maximus-6788 11 ай бұрын
softer tools? so we can't cut diamonds today?
@midgetydeath
@midgetydeath 2 жыл бұрын
Why were you being so gentle? You were tapping it. If that is really granite then there is no need to be concerned about it since it is dramatically harder than flint. It's so much more durable that I question if that is granite and if you're using flint, considering how badly dolomite hammers fare in Egypt where tourists can use dolomite hammers on granite and achieve nothing in all the years that's been open. The dolomite hammers historians claim was used to shape the granite blocks for the pyramids. More than a million of them. In twenty years. This either is very weak granite, or not granite. Bronze and dolomite tools don't work on the granite out there in Egypt and we're to believe flint magically does?
@doseofboost4509
@doseofboost4509 5 ай бұрын
Now can you show us how to move a 1000 ton granite stone with a sled 😂
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open 5 ай бұрын
How does your request relate to this video?
@doseofboost4509
@doseofboost4509 5 ай бұрын
@Eyes_Open well, easy if they can explain how the granite was cut, then they must know how it was moved
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open 5 ай бұрын
@@doseofboost4509 They know what you should also know. Mechanical advantage, ropes and muscle.
@doseofboost4509
@doseofboost4509 5 ай бұрын
@@Eyes_Open hahah ropes and wood on a 1200 ton block you guys are clowns
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open 5 ай бұрын
@@doseofboost4509 Go outside for sunlight and fresh air. You have been deceived by grifters who make money from your willingness to believe in fantasies.
@javiergarza8626
@javiergarza8626 3 жыл бұрын
I think they used wooden fittings first, cut the desired shape. Make sure it fits the area they want to set the rock on, then they would transfer those dimensions on to the the boulder, shape it. Then set the boulder down on top. That way there's no trial and error picking up and setting down massive stones over and over as some people say
@timjones747
@timjones747 3 жыл бұрын
Templates! Brilliant.
@andygreen2775
@andygreen2775 11 ай бұрын
first time i have heard this, or thought of it. So bloody obvious, do the same sort of thing myself (I'm a landscaper) People just do not realize the massive workforce they had, and the massive amount of time served workers that had skills passed down the families. Brutal slave labor, get it wrong and your dead, kind of makes you concentrate!!
@marcoscorsolini8803
@marcoscorsolini8803 3 жыл бұрын
extremely interesting. It doesn't prove anything, from a strictly historiographic or scholarly point of view, but certainly ignites thoughts.
@MRconfusedboy
@MRconfusedboy 2 жыл бұрын
not sure if this is just to show that its possible to carve granite with flint or to show that you can do just as good of a job as the ancients did, because in that case no, the ancient carvings were clean polished and perfect,
@LesterBrunt
@LesterBrunt Жыл бұрын
Yeah because they didn’t do it as a one off experiment but as a lifelong work that was passed on for hundreds of generations. Still plenty of those kind of stone masons around and they still make the most insane shit by hand.
@flightographist
@flightographist Жыл бұрын
You should go to their channel, they have a large membership that does all types of work, this was a quick demonstration to illustrate the cutting was possible. I watched one video where a very fine large bird shaped onyx vessel was created by one person from a block of that stone, it took her almost a year working an average of 4-5 hrs/day while she lived her normal life as well. This is why ancient material culture objects are generally not ubiquitous and were held in great value. It also demonstrates how the guild system and stratified society would have evolved in the great civilizations.
@erichamilton8952
@erichamilton8952 10 күн бұрын
You're full of shit. They are not perfect and as far as polishing that is simply a matter of time and effort.
@thedirtbag7
@thedirtbag7 27 күн бұрын
I am one who believes that there are many examples in Egypt, and around the world, of technological feats we would struggle to achieve today. This video is clear evidence that granite carving can be done. I have never once thought to dispute this. What I do dispute though is that any level of geometric precision can be achieved through your process shown. Check out the recent metrological studies of the precision vases. I have other examples of artifacts, but those vases have been scientifically measured to show tolerances within a few thousandth of an inch. Your skill with hand tools would never come close to this. That is not possible. If you would like to prove myself and others who agree with me wrong then please make one of these precision vases out of granite or diorite. No matter the result, you will be the first to attempt it that I have seen.
@michaelpost7352
@michaelpost7352 2 жыл бұрын
It is strange to see a video on cutting granite made by people who have a full dose of common sense. Skilled and experienced craftsmen can do amazing things with basic tools. The crackpots think aliens from unknown planets are the only ones who can do this.
@johnnymacf1
@johnnymacf1 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not i found my way to your channel via bright insight as Jimmy always likes to say think for yourselves and do some ressearch. Well i have done and now realise that people like yourselves base their reaserch on facts and actual proof whereas people like Jimmy base everything they say on nothing accept maybe cherry picked snippets that suit their agenda for like and sub hunting. I was a fan of jimmys for a couple of years until i learnt that nothing he said is based in truth or facts. Im glad i found people like you that build their conclusions on solid evidence. 👍
@carpo719
@carpo719 3 жыл бұрын
It is easy to get sucked in, we are all victims of confirmation bias at times. I remember when ancient aliens came out yeeeears ago, it was fascinating at first. Then I scowled, then cringed, then cried..... and to think people STILL believe it. Bright Insight, however, is like the modern version of the same BS. Folks eat it up. What is important is not that we are always right, but that we are willing to admit when we did not have all the information
@sadhu7191
@sadhu7191 2 жыл бұрын
@@carpo719 what does bright insight prove? Nothing he films places I don't have money to go and like a friend says what he thinks. I think what I think. In end we still don't know
@helenbrown6194
@helenbrown6194 3 жыл бұрын
So impressive!!!
@ItsMeChillTyme
@ItsMeChillTyme Жыл бұрын
I mean, it looks terrible but it is certainly possible. Especially with experienced craftsmen and grid stencils and other tools at disposal, it can easily be done to great precision and beauty.
@soulfuzz368
@soulfuzz368 2 жыл бұрын
So this is what aliens look like…
@joesayle2213
@joesayle2213 Жыл бұрын
This is great even if this is not the exact technique used it shows what can be done with a little will. Imagine a large work force of artisans, masons etc trained over thousands of years.
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
The goal of course was to demonstrate that one can use stone tools to shape stone. Man has been doing that for millennia. As to workforce = a very large workforce. Just as you see today with say fast food restaurants which are ubiquitous in a town because of course "demand" is constant = so in ancient Egypt demand for various objects was always there. So they created an entire economy dedicated to the creation of various things the people wanted - either for everyday use or to accommodate their religious beliefs vis a vis items needed for burial. Here is an example. Egyptologists have over the years unearthed underground caches of mummified animals as votive offerings and as burial times to be sold to people = literally millions of them. Think about the scale to create all that. It would have required a large workforce devoted to creating them + an even larger one devoted to supplying all the raw materials + and it would have spanned centuries. Then as now you got what you paid for. So Pharaohs or wealthy temples employed their own castes of craftsmen who would have had access to more resources and time yielding "museum quality" things for their patrons. On the flip side you might have had "community workshops" who turned out mass quantities of "knock-offs" for sale to the general public. So absolutely large workforces were in play here. 🤔
@joesayle2213
@joesayle2213 Жыл бұрын
@@varyolla435 workforces that laboured for a wage of food and basic needs for their god. Imagine!
@electricalcontrols4128
@electricalcontrols4128 3 жыл бұрын
You can actually lie and say it was from Atlantis or something like that and get rich
@jonpaul3868
@jonpaul3868 3 жыл бұрын
It was never "cut" in the first place, it was chipping and abrading.
@timjones747
@timjones747 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkNookShop they did not achieve what the Egyptians did in this video. But the precision is possible. Proof is the Egyptians stonework. They only had primitive tools. So the proof you need is knowing that they did their own work. Better than us!
@kgkg-nk6rd
@kgkg-nk6rd 3 ай бұрын
Great video lads , thats makes more sense than soundwaves or aliens lol
@TuzenRha
@TuzenRha 3 жыл бұрын
Are you serious? lol
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
What looks like a joke?
@kerryn6714
@kerryn6714 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is amazing and I always look forward to your next upload. Well done, keep up the great work. Cheers from Australia ✌🇦🇺🙂
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you from Russia! :-)
@stevenclark8225
@stevenclark8225 12 сағат бұрын
Yes you carved a very simple looking eye in the top layer of the rock. That still doesn't explain some of the mind-blowing things around this planet
@gevorkgevanyan466
@gevorkgevanyan466 11 күн бұрын
People fail to realize, we went to the fucking moon and back, you guys are dumbfounded at the fact that we stacked rocks up in the shape of a pyramid?
@Skorrigan
@Skorrigan Жыл бұрын
Now imagine those perfectly cut slabs.... with flint.
@McShag420
@McShag420 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's no statue of Ramses 80 feet tall, each one carved the exact same dimensions. Is all this channel shows tiny, rough examples? Make a Serapeum box! Carve an 80 foot statue to perfection! Either re-create something like we see has been done by the ancient Egyptians, or you really prove nothing.
@alboho
@alboho 3 жыл бұрын
So archeologists have found flint carving and cutting tools at ancient megalithic sites? Because that would end the argument right there.
@MrAchile13
@MrAchile13 3 жыл бұрын
archaeologists found heaps of broken flint at megalithic sites, including at the location of some pyramids. They also found burned granite flakes and granite dust.
@wilhelmbeck8498
@wilhelmbeck8498 Жыл бұрын
Good - Now you guys make copies of all the boxes in the Serapeum of Saqqara. Remember : ONLY flinstones and cobber-drills
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын
Why should they be limited? The finer boxes were made in the iron age.
@wilhelmbeck8498
@wilhelmbeck8498 Жыл бұрын
@@Eyes_Open OK - flint AND iRON - but not NO CNC'S . GET GOING !
@wilhelmbeck8498
@wilhelmbeck8498 Жыл бұрын
NOR LATHES ! REMEMBER : NO LATHES EVER FOUND ! GET GOING !
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын
@@wilhelmbeck8498 It has already been demonstrated that flint cuts granite and copper alloy saws and tube drills work with abrasives to cut granite. Now you also have access to iron technology. Since the small scale e experiments have already been performed, anyone wanting a full scale replica is responsible for the project. Plan carefully because material and labour costs will be large. Now get going...
@wilhelmbeck8498
@wilhelmbeck8498 Жыл бұрын
@@Eyes_Open There's a paradigm-shift coming in regards to human history on Earth - Keep in mind : When pre-academia Egyptologists started studying artefacts in the area - the early steam-industrial nations didn't even have Diamond-tipped cutting tools., CNC's , abrasive laser-devices or Electro-gravitic "Hand-Tools" There was zero chance of knowing what they were looking at. If you want a qualified opinion on the part of artefacts belonging to the precision-category - i absolutely recommend that you team up with people who work in such materials on a daily basis. Best Regards
@SuperSquark
@SuperSquark 3 жыл бұрын
You proved a point there with a simple experiment.
@everythingisalllies2141
@everythingisalllies2141 2 жыл бұрын
They proved that you CAN carve granite with flint and grind with abrasive. The did NOT prove that the Egyptian or their predecessors did it this way. If anything this method really demonstrates that its NOT suitable for large scales and huge numbers of pieces with super fine finish, so some other way would be needed. No one has offered an appropriate method to this day. We still don't know. Fast flowing river and sand also abrades Granite, so are you willing to suggest that the Egyptians just dunked blocks of granite in the creek, and directed the water to make the statues? Because is true that river water and abrasive sand does erode granite, so does that mean this is the method? No.
@Anth369
@Anth369 Жыл бұрын
@@everythingisalllies2141 💯. Self righteous idiots who think they’ve proven something, when the only think they’ve proved. That they truly don’t understand
@Theshow1797
@Theshow1797 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Ancient Egyptians probably used this method or one similar to etch into granite, I can see that. When dealing with 2-3-4 ton pieces of granite or quarrying the granite, cutting it, pieces that are finished and 2 ton blocks that also have 90° angles on the inside of the granite, perfectly smooth shiny, several tons. That’s the mystery. Than moving those 2-3 ton stones……there are 0 videos on the internet that display if it was possible with pullies, levers, wet sand, rolling logs. and done with people. Not theory’s or cartoons. Actual tests. 0 successful. My point is. If you make the master pieces of all master pieces . You don’t scribble beer recipes, or stories of how many fish were caught after moving 2-3 ton blocks miles, over hills up 30° ramps, all while in the modern era we have never moved and successfully placed in the history of attempts on record a single megalithic block with the time, precision, tools and human capability’s to this day. That some of the things we see in pyramids or assumed to be ancient Egyptian. When they really could be from a little or a long time before them. That’s all.
@mineerthegamer
@mineerthegamer 2 жыл бұрын
Why not? Beer recipes were insanely valuable and cherished, and a massive net of fish be it a lie or truth were absolutely stories people would want to write in their tombs and on monuments. People tend to apply modern values values where they don't belong and consider something like a big catch to be mundane but back then that could be a week of sustenance and a story that would be told for years and years.
@Theshow1797
@Theshow1797 2 жыл бұрын
@@mineerthegamer sure. Beer recipe. Ok. So there a pymimid with perfectly cut megalithic granite. No one knows how who. When it was made. But on the out side of these tombs. Is chicken scratch. These tombs are Precision, perfection. Versus some aHole with a sharp screw driver writing stuff.
@mineerthegamer
@mineerthegamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@Theshow1797 they're far from perfect or precision that's a myth spouted by people trying to sell tours or people who are blatantly ignoring years of scientific research and basic measurements of these supposedly perfect tombs. The Great Pyramid alone has a lot of flaws like sloped floors, cracked ceilings an unfinished room and the bricks below the surface were rough cut as we're the sides of the outer stone that can't be seen. There's even a section of one of the internal tunnels that has its floor broken likely due to the fact the pyramids building plan changed and was expanded near the end of construction.
@mineerthegamer
@mineerthegamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@scronyx precision cut is an insanely strong word for the boxes as they actually aren't like this crazy micron level of precision a lot of scamtubers keep trying to sell you on. The reason these boxes look so precise is because it's so hard to take off more stone than you need to with the methods they used but even they're still not that uniform. As for the megalithic statues those were very doable with the tools of the time, they had the lever and now we even know the egyptians likely had a rudimentary version of pullies, a 67 year old man named Wally Wallington on his own has moved megalithic stones using ancient tech like counter weights and levers and he's 67 and it's just a hobby. The people building those huge structures in Egypt were expert masons and stone carvers that practiced building these structures during the flood seasons when they had basically nothing else to do and they got really, really good at it. To say that they couldn't have created these structures with tools we know they had and used is honestly an insult to their skill and ingenuity.
@oldoneeye7516
@oldoneeye7516 2 жыл бұрын
@@scronyx There is proof that the great pyramide is much older? Great! Where? Where are the reliable sources for this proof, the falsifiable measurements? Because without those measurements, there is no proof whatsoever. Also, your claim that there are no videos about moving stones as large as used in the pyramide just by tools the ancient Egyptians possessed (proven by excavations): you are very wrong indeed. On Indonesia they move "megalithic" stones with ropes and wooden rollers and there exist many vids about it. Also there are dozend of vids of how the Russians moved a block that is much larger. We have many documents of how the Romans moved gigantic stones over hundreds of miles. Why not the Egyptians? I wont even loose words over the so called "precision-made objects" faketubers blabber about all day, minnerthegamer did say enough about it. If you make a revolutionary claim, you need revolutionary evidence. You have none. So your claim is refuted. This is called science.
@AncientArchaeology369
@AncientArchaeology369 10 ай бұрын
Good to see an actual video on flint attacking granite. If im not mistaken the dude knows what hes doing and the eye still looks like a child made it when compared to the oldest granite work in Egypt. The precision of the corners and the symmetrical aspects of the grnaite statues and blocks certainly werent cut with flint. If anything thos video proves 2 things, flint can carve granite but it wasnt used by the anceint builders of Egypts more impressive sites
@Leeside999
@Leeside999 10 ай бұрын
If granite can be carved using a flint chisel then the result is only limited by the time, effort and skill employed by the artist. You're comparing a guy who is experimenting with the methods to the work of a master craftsman who probably spent his life time learning and honing his skill and was trained by the masters before him. Hardly comparable.
@AncientArchaeology369
@AncientArchaeology369 10 ай бұрын
@@Leeside999 I don’t think that’s the case. Just because we can carve into granite with flint doesn’t mean it can produce a finish product like the Triads of Menkaure. I’ve watched people work granite with flint and other stones that can carve it and they never get close to the same level because it seems impossible: flint just can’t carve a straight line unfortunately. That part I believe, whatever culture carved the best of Egypts statues were certainly experts in masonry and likely stretches back to pre dynastic times for sure
@Leeside999
@Leeside999 10 ай бұрын
@@AncientArchaeology369 It's the polishing that gives it the smooth finish. The flint just carves. There are examples of unfinished pre-polished rough statues found. _" flint just can’t carve a straight line "_ It's the skill of the artist that carves a straight line, not the tool. _"whatever culture carved the best of Egypts statues were certainly experts in masonry and likely stretches back to pre dynastic times for sure"_ And your evidence for this is?
@AncientArchaeology369
@AncientArchaeology369 10 ай бұрын
@@Leeside999 Polishing gives a smoth finish but also highlights imperfections. Just as we see in this clip. Also while the Dynastic Egyptians may have used flat surfaces and abrasives to polish, no good theory has pointed out how the fingernails and intricate details shine like mirrors on statues such as the Triad Of Menkaure. Not with a tool like flint. Flint is more or less incapable of carving a straight line for any longer than a few cm. Even Bronze saws would fail to do this. There's plenty of evidence. The vases found at Sqara are made of granite and labeled Pre Dynatsic, yet there are the best quality of all in Ancient Egypt. On top of this the Dynastic Egyptians loved to carve into relics, we see various examples where grnaite statues were defaced with poor workmanship by middle kingdom peoples. But most obvious is the fact that the greatest granite works have no inscriptions on them. The Dynastic Egyptians wanted to leave their mark on everything, yet the greatest achievements have no reference to suggest they were made by Dynastic Egyptians
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 10 ай бұрын
So now you are trolling these videos I see......... 🥱
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