It's called being a Mary Sue for the Mailman. Never a fan of the Courier at one bit. I'd still go for OG Vault Dweller.

@@NurseAmamiya : some milk drinker in a vault who magically saves an entire region with no life experience other than living the most sheltered life possible. VS a delivery guy who has to traverse across the deadly wastes and stay alive at all costs and has to/has had to do so his whole life. The OG VD is a Mary Sue of the greatest kind. So if you’re arguing against a Mary Sue in the Mailman, your preferences contradict your argument.

@@jaybird0312 From your description the Courier sounds like the main character in the movie "Falling down as the "Mailman" is just trying to get on with his day people fuck his day up now he kills those people.

@@jaybird0312 well technically the vault dweller has military experience, unless you play as the female of course

@@jaybird0312 THEY ARE ALL MARY SUES CANT YOU SEE? FOR GOD'S SAKE BEING A MARY FUCKING MEANS YOU HAVE ALL THE ABILITIES ALL CHARACTER TRAITS THAT ARE GOOD ONLY GOOD ONES.

I think they might be setting that up for future games.

There are Brotherhood in Alaska though, right?

@@user-bn1go7tu6c I don't know but that would make sense.

Canada would have quickly revolted and individually town declared independence as soon as bombs fell.

They wouldn't be Brotherhood per se but certainly other Army remnants had to survive right?

yup. but i also dont think they would leave their soliders with nothing. youd get a fire arm and ammo and armor at the least. easily replaceable stuff though.

@@damienmitchell3104 well, to join the brotherhood I think you’d need to prove yourself in combat, which means you already have some stuff

@@damienmitchell3104 you get power armour once you become a Knight and you also get a small collection of supplies in your personal bed storage

@@baggieboydan82 yes after being knighted. which would normally take a lot of time. we were fast tracked because of danse vouching for our combat prowess as well as maxson most likely hearing about us killing kellog, a well known boogeyman of the commonwealth. so we earned it. scavengers getting baseline supplies then fleeing would be all to common

​@@damienmitchell3104 They do issue Gear. But only what's required.

lol we'll just call that a happy accident

@@oxhorn quoting Bob I see

@@oxhorn that's what my dad calls me

I think it was a nuke going off

AkodoKusamoto he’s been doing this aloooong time. Ox is a veteran of making videos. Timing is everything which is something he learned a long time ago as you can see haha

That makes sense, thanks for the correction!

Oxhorn, no problem.

The unit insignia is also a spin on the 75ths actual unit crest and they refer to they’re unit as a regiment and mention not having an airborne component, the 75th is one of the only army units who operate as a regiment and they’re also an airborne unit

I hear the choppers hovering their hovering overhead, they've come to get the wounded, but I jumped in instead. DIE DIE WHY WON'T YOU DIE, Rangers lead the way.

@South Side Comptown I don't know how many times I have heard "Rangers lead the way" , "Airborne", and "All the way". "Air assault" not as much. lol

Ad Victoriom

Ad Victoriom

We're dogs, Diamond Dogs

Ad Victoriom

That tape speak to my core bones and he was right like you we need something to belive in... Fallout is so awesome

Like his namestake arthur maxson, then again with the new steeldawn addon..they seem to be the same mindsey so who knows

And ironically John Maxon do feel like Roger to an extent. I mean he is amiable and even deciding to stop the Supermutants and eventually helping local communities in contrast to more isolationist elders.

Elder Lyons is the closest thing we got to the brotherhoods truly original goal after roger

Ad Victoriam brother.

@@ShadowSearcher31 You are completely wrong. Lyons neglected Technology in favour of helping people. Lyons was a fool and fought against mutants for 20 years and still didn’t win even though he had a lead where they were coming from and did not investigate. Roger never would’ve neglected Technology for helping people.

He got window update on voice

I live right next to the lake, im gonna have to go and explore

And this is why I love his lore videos more them his live cast. Mabe his lives are more lively but HERE is where he put hard work.

GOD BLESS THE ENCLAVE

Wow didn’t expect this comment to get highlighted lol

Yea but we only attain the rank of general and launch nukes to fix what the dumbass enclave did and to finish what the bos started.

In 76 we are only a Knight-arrent, not a general. We only become a general in the Enclave in 76. Even in F04, I don't think we ever become a general in the Brotherhood.

@@cosmicbillyI don’t think there is a general in the BOS however you were a general of the minutemen.

Sadly the people who create this... i dont think they put in charge of Main Story..

Imagine how story mode would be good

Although they still shouldn’t be here for another hundred years or so...Maxson using a satellite is just a lazy excuse for world “building”

@TRISTAN KAHL tech is kind retro because they dont use chips so they focus mostly on nuclear energy so powerarmor was very very important because of radiation. Chip stuff was kind great thing if you think about it..

The lore is fantastic the way we play through the lore though is kinda yeesh yaknow

No, the Enclave has been destroyed 3 separate times. Chicago area would more than likely be controlled by the midwest BOS from Fallout Tactics. Ceaser even said the legion ran into them when you talk to him in FONV. Sierra Bravos are just some unbelievable OP enemy made up by Bethesda so they didn't have to have NPCs. They should definitely stay in FO76.

The thing is defeated ≠ destroyed and as far as i remember nor F2 or F3 doesn't state that they are completely gone.

@Tagan Reaper I had thought Richardson said all of the Enclave were on the oil rig and at the base. How big could a covert criminal element of the prewar US government have been? So Bethesda wanted them in FO3 because they are cool and did a bad job of writing them in....OK, it worked... kind of. They need to stop though. The pre war US government and military is gone. The Enclave has been destroyed 6 ways from Sunday and any attempt by Bethesda to bring them back in force would be an assult on intelligent FO fans. What you see in FONV is what Enclave would look like. A few elderly people or their children with advanced PA Mk. II or Hellfire and a plasma rifle. A FEW ! A side story at most. They are not on the moon or in Africa. They were a small group of disgusting government and corporate officials with brainwashed "yes men" as an army. They are dead and their cause was flawed and defeated....and a lie The remaining people don't even think the Enclave cause was just and would tell their children that the Enclave was evil.

Mike Brown I’m pretty sure the prewar government was all infiltrated by the future Enclave.

@ Space Marine Chaplin It's entirely possible, but you are talking about 545 house reps and senators. Most of the wheels that make government turn are regular people who think the government is good. If those tens of thousands of people find out the people at the top are not good, there is a good chance that there will be problems. So, the covert criminal element of the government and corporations would have to kind of keep it under raps which would limit their over all numbers in the future. Plus, they don't want anything to do with mutated people post-war, so there is no way for them to grow that large again.. All the brainwashed troopers they had were killed in the west by NCR and BOS, killed by BOS on the east coast twice, are elderly or have died of old age. We see in FONV that the former Enclave are not even considering trying carry the torch. They were pee-ons and some of them didn't like what the Enclave was doing anyway. It's kind of like the Nazi Germans making a comeback. They had one crack at doing what ever it is they were trying to do, but were destroyed and will never come back in force as the Third Riech. Some got away. Hell, Hitler may have even got away. People know about them though, know they were a flawed idea and they could never gain the support needed to be any kind of actual threat as the same grey coats and Nazi flag. Enclave- "a portion of territory within or surrounded by a larger territory whose inhabitants are culturally or ethnically distinct. " So, the very definition of "Enclave" means it is something small inside of something much larger and different than itself. As Alex Jones would put it "A small covert, criminal element inside the US government." They are dead and the gig is up. Everyone knows they are evil. They tried to kill everyone... twice!

No one cares

Za’ab-Ya’oh Ban Ya’ohsharal no need to be so bloody rude to him, the hell is wrong with you

@@RandomHQ433 what's wrong with him is his parents for not educating him correctly.

Za’ab-Ya’oh Ban Ya’ohsharal lmfao the disrespect

@@zaab-yaoh9302 evidently you do

It can be both. :D

Thought it was just me screaming “take the damn cans man!!!”

Story of my life

Mommy can I stay up for one more hour to watch oxhorn’s video

Its 3:27 AM

45 minutes later... There's another lore vid about a concept that branches off of the video. Oh well I'll guess I'll watch that too

Tauren in power armor with a shotgun.

You gratting blit now ill never get that image out of my head when i listen to his lore videos

I can see Ox as a Tauren

@@KK-qm1mr Do we have fan art of that? I want to see that.

What is a tauren?

Wow

What were your thoughts on the Van Buren documents?

@@voidghost4933 Gay

Etu Bokshi Ope found the possible Bethesda fanboy and false Fallout fan?

Yeti Smith when the collection of technology is put second, great things were accomplished.

I think it was more a natural reaction, the strong protecting the weak, as a military ethos. It wasn’t until more rigid orders came down that the local BoS chapter became less engaged with the other factions.

That's how the brotherhood started. Only a little smarter. Training people in how to use valuable tech while keeping dangerous pieces away from others. Protecting the people. Like a technologically advanced minutemen almost.

But as Brootherhood that idea fall into protect humanity from themself...

@@razofdead over time yes.

Arthur Maxson isn’t it Ad Victorian?

Sywoc nope

Ad Victoriam

Sywoc WRONG!!! Disliked, not funny didn’t laugh.

Arthur Maxson AD VICTORIAM!

Didnt know that thanks, makes sense that the BOS soldiers wouldn't know that tho because it's not common knowledge obviously

The free states has a ton of lore if you feel like spending days hunting it all down.

A lot of the factions are localised. The ones that are present in multiple areas are generally antagonistic; like the Enclave. The Brotherhood is certainly more of a mixed bag. Their condemnation of Ghouls and their tendency to fall into zealotry & autocracy is their bad side. They do have a better side; putting down Ferals and hostile super-mutants, saving tech. They are complex, which makes them useful for stories. The Railroad is too focused, the NCR is tied to it's territory, the Legion is barely above a raider army, the Minutemen are localised is too weak until you build it up (and is tied to the Commonwealth), the Insitute & the Enclave are explicitly intended to be evil... The Brotherhood can be good or bad depending on their leadership's position.

No, because Fallout 76 sucks.

Yes but I visit the exact areas and pause in between the trips

@@elh954 your really mad about something to waste 4 seconds of your life to let everybody know that you hate a videogame and expect anyone to care

@@fredrichreisinger2543 u mad bro?

@@theginjaninja132 nah but thanks for asking, just informing him

I've also wondered about Gwen McNamara of Vault 81 and former Secretary of Defense (real world) Robert McNamara. I'm NOT wondering if they're all supposed to be related to one another. Just one pair or another.

@@KK-qm1mr McNamara seems to be a common surname throughout the series. Makes me wonder if it's a dev signature or something.

I wonder if Roger Maxson and Arthur Maxson are related

@@samhenshaw4962 Yes. Arthur is Roger's last living descendant as of the year 2287, 210 years after Roger founded the Brotherhood.

No one ever calls him that, but Arthur Maxson is Maxson V. (The Fifth, not the letter "V.")

Whats the s.o.p if you don't mind if I ask

@@toasteyboi345 Standard Operating Procedure

@@6killersfear4 thx man

@@toasteyboi345 no problem

In my opinion army is like frat Group with arms..

Sounds like grouo of skin heads to me.

TheReaper lucky

Death Trooper trust me it’s not as good as it sounds. But I will brag my mom and other family live about 2 miles away from Camden park

TheReaper how do you like the locations in the game, similar to real life in any ways?

TheReaper ... Charleston area here

Was your mum made up when you married her daughter 😂😂😂

Doesn’t redeem them/diminish what a shitshow attempt at a cash grab that FO76 was. Good idea (lore wise) Bad execution (development wise)

That's awesome

Also, in the new DLC some more Brotherhood troops are coming to reconnect with this remnant. Hopefully they retake the Wasteland, once and for all...

Well the letter at 1:04:44 says that one guy disappeared out on patrol and never came back, so there’s hope

Who doesn't like blowing them out of the sky with artillery? *FIRE FOR EFFECT*

@@3DNETWORK I don't I went with them I'm my only playthrough

@@robertmitchell9559 If only Maxson hadn't been such a doofus. I mean come on, they get defeated by tato farmers and ancient artillery. Its comedic gold!

the brotherhood of steel were the first fachion that I found so I joined them I liked paladin danse so I decide to join em

Robert Mitchell fallout 76 U have 76 likes Oxhorn: Time for another awesome vid

Shadowkeep 😍

Willyam Jordan Don’t forget about the marines, rah

@@christianmandarino2851 Yeah, the USMC are good too. But it's also sad that there's no Delta Force.

Not as elite as the enclave 😁🇱🇷

Advictorim brothers and sisters

@BrianConqueror80 The Underwater Demolition Teams UDT started in WWII were the Navy Seals and were turned into the Navy Seals. UDTs complete with skydiving frogmen saw action in WWII and Korea. Any of these pre Navy Seal UDTs are considered Navy Seals. Don't ever think that no one would be greedy or corrupt without oil. The people that really run shit in the world will take us on anything. There was oil in FO world. They didn't go full nuclear until after 2050 because oil was starting to run out. So that is over 100 years after WWII that they were running on oil. What ever resourses or rare earth minerals there are that everyone needs or wants, you can be sure that people will want to control, steal and profit off of them so they are rich well beyond imagination. Who ever has you believing that oil is this root of all evil probably owns massive shares in the nuclear or renewable resourse industry or both. Probably the same people with the most shares in the oil corporations. Also, not every single thing with the time split is set in stone, this is why Bethesda will only say "WWII happened," because they don't want to lock themselves down to things like ...There was no Delta, Green Berets or Navy Seals among a million other things. 50s culture

Well Vertibirds are more applicables cause roads would be blocked and destroyed and its much faster

You get to use armored vehicles including a tank in fallout: tactics

Kind of reminds me of how Deacon, an individual from the Capital Wasteland who ran with a group he called the Deathclaws who never existed turned rotten and he left them. A guy who had visited Little Lamp Light and knew MacCready, who had been at the Iron Citadel and knew Maxson as a squire. Who mentioned growing up in a vault and had knowledge of prewar literature.

I agree.

@Alen So, people don't fear the Brotherhood? It was Maxson's hopes and dream to make a better place for the future, but instead, because of certain events and actions of others, whilst some people see them as hope, others fear them because they act like raiders instead of people meant to protect as Manson hoped for? We have seen many of their actions that leads us to see them like raiders, taking food and such by force.

@Alen I might deny it, but I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Even Oxhorn who says that whilst he likes the Brotherhood, he even sees them like raiders at times. If you have other thoughts I would like to hear them, as I'm writing a fanfiction story and so want to hear both sides to help me to write it.

As they say, each side has their own story, and I would like to hear your side of this.

FinestCacophony I agree! The brotherhood in 76 is so well written

As much as I like how they're fleshed out, their entire existence is lore-breaking

The CMM I completely get that argument tbh I like to just write it off as ‘oh well it’s not impossible. It just wasn’t a focus’ But I completely get why people don’t like it. Hell I didn’t when they were announced. But I suppose retcons are inevitable when it comes to Bethesda As unfortunate as it is.

​@@thecmm4602I don't see how that's true to be honest.

You waited till 61 to explore that part of the map? Why?

Dense

@Little Oggie isn't isn't making a good story creative?

@Little Oggie lol u idiot

@@dadshirt6681 yeah. Bricks is just dense clay of you think about it.

Woah now man let's keep it clean

Caleb! Vax! War!!

I was wondering if anybody else noticed lol. Wondering if the "Poobah" line was a coincidence or a crit role reference.

DAGGER DAGGER DAGGER Sam is also in the game, Victor, a kid on a rooftop in Morgantown near VTU that wants to go to space.

Ajax Lynx happy birthday boss

Happy birthday

Happy birthday!

Happy birthday 🎂 🎉 🎈 🦊

I’m guessing the only other fallout you’ve played was 4....

There is definitely lore in 76. It’s harder to absorb though, since much of it is geographically spread apart. It makes you work for it. I remember talking with a friend a few months back about how the BoS lore didn’t make sense. He didn’t understand the timelines of the games, and how W VA fit in. It’s really a beautifully tragic tale of the BoS chapter in Appalachia.

British_Imperialism nope I’ve played them all dude

@@daniel7767 I have played all of them and even a few by obsidian. 76 didnt ruin the lore at all. If anything it built on it. The lore is not spoon fed. You have to make a effort. Alot of the holotapes I have found and notes are tragic and paint vivid pictures of what happened. Anyone who thinks there is no lore hasent played the game. Anyone who thinks it "ruined" fallout needs to watch some of oxs videos. Anyone who still hates it can play something els.

British_Imperialism you’re an idiot.

Eas looking for this

Tamashi fingers crossed

Elder Lyons, Elder scrolls, Its just everything old names.

As far as I know, Ox doesn't play TES.

There us way to much lore. I've seen a few channels that tackle it. With what I can tell is almost 3000 years, leading into what is I think the 4th era(Skyrim). Then you add in ESO.. You get into Scanners head explosion.

He's said that he won't as he's not interested

Wow you were spot on predicting a brotherhood of steel fallout 76 dlc

I still wish the Brotherhood, Responders, Free States and the raiders had been npcs from the beginning. But I'll gratefully take the settlers and raiders.

They were the good guys once.....once

Not for the ground level troops, nope. It is assumed there will always be an overall chain of command to find and report to.

That’s our contingent for everything 😂

Not really. As long as soldiers understand their commander’s intent they can act independently.

There's not much history for either of them Diamond city) 50 years after the bombs fell people start to in a baseball stadium and set up a noodle stand set up a military and a mayor several decades later a synth appears and kills 14( I think) citizens before being killed this made the people of diamond city fearful of the institute several decades later piper moves in and one year later fallout 4 happens See not much Vault 101) sometime before 23 October 2077 vault 101 is made then the world ends no one ever leaves the vault untill around (10ish) years before fallout 3 At least 2 people go out one goes to mega ton and dies but at least he gets an armoured jumpsuit then fallout 3 happens Even less than before

He made a ton of videos exploring diamond city. He also made some videos about 101.

kroolandwart maybe a video on mayor McDonough

@@nathankeys195 again not much there but his video on Hancock explored him as well

You couldnt play as a vault dweller if that was the case.

Not with how much I absolutely can't stand multiplayer games. Unless they managed to make a non pvp world for 76 (last time I tried was right after release), this is infinitely more enjoyable

@@Captainpepper I was implying that it would be a regular fallout game, being singleplayer, and not this weird holotape only quest system.

@@ArtifactADU well, the fact that this game is 25 years after the nuclear bombs dropped, it would be out of place to have a lot of people this close to the bombs. Population would need time to rebuild. It would be ridiculous to have a population level like Fallout 4 this early in the apocalypse

@@jvazacas The holotapes exist, which means the people were there and those things happened. My argument was that it would be way better gameplay to play through those things that we know happened, instead of just hearing about it through holotapes.

Elder Lyon's trip to the east happened about 200 year later !, as West Virginia Brotherhood had dispeared 25 years after the war, i think that they didn't had any news frow West Virginia since 150 years at least!

Only if Elder Lyons gained access to that holotape where Roger Maxson complains about the isolationism infesting his followers! He could have used that to shame the Outcasts into rejoining.

Originally elder Lyons came from the West coast and sat up shop in the D.C. Wasteland to find lost tech. Instead that branch of bos started to defend the locals which pissed off the bos outcasts.

Clayton Gunter and the Elders out west.

Clayton Gunter think that was his point... if Lyons had heard, and could share the first elder’s original idea, ideals.. the original concept of the BoS

And if they'd just stopped being so terrified of the Responders "betraying" them, the two United factions could have taken out the major Raider gangs (with quiet help from the Mistresses) and what remained of Appalachia might have stood a chance against the Scorched - especially if Abbie managed to overcome the Free Staters' paranoia and shared the Scorched detection tech with them. The Overseer was right, you know - what killed Appalachia in the end was insularity and a lack of trust. They could have won, if they'd just pulled together.

I completely agree. I like to think the canonical ending to Fallout 4 is the BoS victory over the Institute, with the Sole Survivor becoming a Sentinel. It feels like because of the male Sole Survivor’s military background, and his desire to return things to the way they were Pre-war (even tho he knows that he can’t truly do that because War... War never changes) as well as the vision of the BoS appealing to his nature as a human being. He wants to preserve the world that he lost, and make sure things don’t go down hill again, the way they did. He understands some of the immorality of the BoS, but his viewpoint of them isn’t swayed by it. This is because of the Brotherhood’s duty to citizens of the Wasteland as their protection and defense against all threats. They kill Super Mutants, Feral Ghouls, Synths (that serve as a hinderance to the people of the Wasteland, like the Institute. They understand just what’s at stake to leave a free-willing machine alive.), Raiders, and anyone or anything that could prove to be a danger. The Sole Survivor understands the gravity of the situation, so he knows the justification of killing some Synths that while may not be a known danger, they definitely present a severe security risk for everyone. These ideals coincide with the preservation of technology. The Sole Survivor knows that the technology of the Wasteland must be taken into good hands, for the better. The cleansing of the Wasteland is justified. All of this gives him pride in what he does as he lives in this Wasteland, knowing that the military force he affiliates with holds true to the Justice and Liberty of the Wasteland. The ideals of the Brotherhood of Steel guide him to be a true soldier of Righteous Authority. For the greater good. Ad Victoriam!

In my book, I think Nate would no doubt for the Enclave more...

@@NurseAmamiya why

NPC update?

The wastelanders dlc its bringing In npc's,towns, and a host of other stuff not sure when but they revealed it during the last e3 so should be end of the year sometime or beginning of next year

It will

Yeah this game could have been so much better if all the factions were alive. Even wastelanders was an inferior story.

@Dancing Deity Hmmm

Wasnt Lyons first scribe Rotchild Like those bank owners???

I’m guessing Gwen McNamara was born in Vault 81 so Grant mostly likely isn’t her parents or grandparents but Grant could possibly be a direct descendant.