I'm a huge Cardinals fan. Born and raised in StL. It was a tough year, but there was something cathartic about having a truly terrible year for the first time in decades. Like we got it out of our system and can be a bit more humble.

The three big storylines you missed were the Oli Marmol / Tyler O'Niell call out, the Wilson Contreras benching, and the prolonged horribleness of Wainright while chasing 200.

kinda hard to win many games no matter how bad ur division is with zero pitching

The Tauchman HR robbery would have been a neat addition, as it was right before the deadline

Yadi was the real manager. Waino was hurt and not his usually tough self Our GM traded away pitchers who are CY caliber Goldy and Nolan went back to normal after an incredible 2022 season. Our pitchers always followed whatever pitch Yadi put down no matter what, hence they didn't know how to get strike three or an out. Helsley was hurt. Gio was hurt. Our pitching prospects haven't panned out. Pujols was our best and most clutch hitter in Aug and Sept 2022 and helped us win the division. Flaherty is immature as fuck and thinks he's an ace, when he only had one good season. Our defense wasn't as solid. The bullpen was awful. Couldn't hit with runners in scoring position Basically everything that could go wrong, went wrong

Im just glad we didnt finish last in the league. We havemt done that since 1918 and id love to keep that streak

It's not a big mystery. The rotation was bad even in 2022, but it was masked by an excellent defense. Then the defense fell off a cliff in 2023 (from 1st in the NL to 10th). Arenado, Edman and Donovan went from elite defenders to average. Plus Molina retired.

It all comes back to Dollar Bill and Mo still being in charge of baseball ops. DeWitt is a cheapskate owner who justifies his cheapness with "The Cardinal Way". Meanwhile, Mo let the game pass him by a decade ago because he rested on the laurels of 2006 and '11. Now he thinks he can dumpster dive to paper over holes in roster construction he made. Then also wastes time and money on retirement tours of his greatest hits. He also fired Shildt, a manager who took definitely not playoff teams to the playoffs, and managed to hide the devastating flaws of the team. Then hired an inept, standoffish asshole for purposes of organizational inbreeding. Instead of going outside of the organization and getting a good manager, or better yet, keeping Shildt.

The Braves had to endure a couple of these, and you'd think that's how we built what we got but it really isn't. All we really got for 1st rounders was Kyle Wright and Ian Anderson. The pool was already developing like yours is now. You'll probably have another one next year but in two years I can see you guys at 90. Also yes, sometimes it's nice to get rid of the playoff nervousness once in awhile.

Also doesn’t help the GM didn’t get any pitching the prior offseason and then having a clown manager dog his player over 1 play that wasn’t O’Neill’s fault to begin with

Everything that could wrong just about did. When they pitched, they didnt hit then they'd pitch & hit only to flub in the field or make a base running gaffe to cost the game. The starters would go 4 innings & kill the bullpen, then bullpen wouldn't hold the games for the starters when they pitched well. Base running & defense was terrible at times. After the trade deadline it was half of a AAA team. SMH

Been a Cards fan since 1998, this one hurt.😢

2024 Cards first five series: at LAD(4 games), at SD, MIA, PHI, at AZ. 8-8 at that point would be heroic.

I think another factor for why the Cards fell so far behind predictions is because the Reds Brewers and Cubs all performed better than expected. Most people didn't expect the NL Central to have as many tough teams as it did

It was an outlier year, none of this will continue as it’s not in the cardinals to be trash.

I just want to add that us cardinal fans were screaming at the front office all off season to add pitching

There was some bad luck and poor defense and base running. What really happened is the hubris and ego of the front office got in the way. It seems they thought they couldn’t make bad choices.

If the Cardinals are 5- 11 in first 4 series I’ll be surprised. They signed 3 new starting pitchers, but haven’t fixed anything. They signed Marp, he will not hit 200. I’m sad

The Pirates were weird this year. For a second they looked to win the division. Also I thought all the Cardinals' problems were because Contreras was terrible. That's what they made it seem like when they demoted him to DH .

From first to worst in a single season…

Could be another Video of How the Diamondbacks were able to Get to the World Series? Still scratching my head about that! *Find Videos of NFL, MLB (1991 and 2016 World Series, Albert Pujols) and more by Jim NFL 7!* Win Twins, take the AL Central again!

Aight but just wait till Packy Naughton has THE comeback season of a comeback season post-injury once they call him back up from Memphis

The 2023 cardinals failed for the same reason the 2021 Twins, 2023 Yankees, and 2022/23 Red Sox failed; aging starters underperformed and young/depth starters couldn’t step up and fill the roles of the veterans, resulting in struggling pitching staffs that weighed down the offense, and offense can only get you so far. This is why the Guardians and Rays continue to stay so consistently good to mediocre; even their bad seasons are usually at worst a few games under .500, they invest in young, controllable starters that they develop to perfection and don’t invest in older free agent starters, especially longer deals. They turn into pitching factories churning out stars. Pitching staffs can carry offenses, but offenses can rarely carry pitching staffs.

As a Reds fan it was wonderful having a better record than the Cards. Funny I feel the same way about the Cardinals as I do the Steelers. The only team in division I will kinda root for is the cubs. Mainly do to my experience at Wrigley Field. That was a fantastic weekend.

the most improbable season. shit people think is impossible is just improbable

Their first non-winning season since 2007 and poorest w/l record going back to the 1995 shortened year and first time losing as many as 90 games since 1990 and the first time since 1978 the Cardinals didn't reach 70 wins in a full season. Impossibly bad season...give me a break. I don't recall St. Louis having players like Trout and Ohtani for several years and still barely finishing w/ a record similar to 71-91.

I'm not a fan of Marmol. He got by with having Pujols and Molina lead the team in 2022. Things went off the rails quick when he was on his own. Shoulda hired Schumaker

I feel like we are going to see some tough years ahead.

As a Brewers fan, I loved it.

It’s due to Ollie’s horrible managing. After the month of July it was all over. And especially after their record of 46-57. They couldn’t improve, but if Yadi can be a coach or something for the 2024 season, they could have a winning record again. I’m a long time cardinals fan

As a yankee fan do one on us last year. What a disappointment season it was.

The best thing is. The Cardinals fixed like 0 of their problems so they’re gonna have another god awful season

This video is retraumatizing me

I don't feel the least bit positive over these off season moves, all these old players, really old. We don't spend on elite free agents, the reat of the n.l central is better and it should have been a clue the cubs didn't want Wilson. C. back and Dusty Baker stopped the cubs astros deal last July as he didn't want wilson catching their young pitchers. (Not drinking the coolaid).

I loved watching the Cardinals struggle that season as a Brewers fan

They killed Waino

It was mainly the pitching but there was times the offense couldn’t hit with RISP a lot of injuries and new guys in the lineup every day! It felt like they was cursed! They wasn’t a 90 something loss team they traded 5 of their better pitchers at the trade deadline and tanked on purpose by playing these young guys most people haven’t heard of! I think they will be better this year but they still need pitching help!!!

JoMo gave order 66 to a few key guys. I've never seen us lose so many games in late innings in so many ways. Bill will never let Jo Mo leave and Jo Mo will never die Oli.

Fire oli marmol he’s the worst manager I’ve ever seen

An inept organization plus an incompetent manager and a bunch of underachieving players usually doesn’t make for a successful season.

Marmol worst manager.

Cubs > cardinals

Letting Tyler O’Neil go still hurts

this season was awful lol. also i actually went to that cardinals giants game with the mike yastrzemski homer, and i actually got it on video kzfaq.infoTVqii1cwtxE