theres some good unfinished games far cry 2 fallout new vegas

As the other person said, there are good unfinished games. The most important aspect of a video game is whether or not you're having fun or if the game engaging you in. That's it. I used to play a game on my PS2 called Crash Twinsanity. It's an unfinished mess but it has very solid gameplay to the point I replay it once in a while... because it's fun. Then there are games like Uncharted 4 which I enjoyed the well written narrative and characters but I only played it once when it came out and have no intention of replaying it because there is nothing enganging about it that makes want to come back. Only if I could wipe out my memory of the game's story.

@@Manic_Panic the "game is good because you have fun" argument is flawed you need to look at whenever playing the game is worth your time aswell throwing shit at a wall can be fun but that doesnt make it a worthwhile activity

​@@czarnakoza9697 It's a video game, not productive work. What is a video game "worth my time"? What does that even mean? For example, we know Mario games are liked by many people but why? There is nothing special or groundbreaking about them, though they nail the most important part, they're fun, you could replay them again next year and still enjoy them as much unlike the movie games or games with very weak gameplay. It seems like you guys are too focused on having the next, most groundbreaking thing rather than enjoying the fun we already have. Too worried about metacritic scores, cinematics, top of the line voice acting, pretty graphics instead of just picking a controller and play something actually enjoyable.

@@Manic_Panic hedonism moment

Exactly. I see this video pop up all the time with people complaining about how movie games took over and I'm like "where!?" For every story game currently, there are 10 Metroidvania, Soulslike, Live Service, procedurally generated crafting game, farming sim, survival horror, or some roguelike. Most adventure games are these massive open world RPG's which are not the same as TLOU.

its snoy movie game slop, but I'd argue fortnite ruined the gaming industry more than last of soys did

Nah I tried playing that Death Stranding crap and its terrible ganes should be games. Hate longncutsce es im not a teen anymore I have límited Time.

@@Drstrange3000he is talking about western AAA gaming. You are talking about indie's and japanese gaming designs...

@jplosts ??? I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm talking about Western games.

He's probably talking about walking simulators

a game can have a developed story with engaging gameplay. see the batman arkham games, sekiro

Games had stories before The Last of Us. The latter is responsible for the Hollywoodification of gaming

@@IAmTheEagleHTM Can you name the games The Last of Us influenced so much please.

The moment games decide to emulate movies instead of being GAMES it was the moment AAA gaming died. Live service slop is just another piece of that cake.

And RE4 also popularized QTEs. Solid of a game it was, it had some awful consequences.

@@HYDEinallcaps Love RE4 to pieces but some of those QTEs still mess me up.

It has more virtues than mistakes

The PlayStation brand really started going downhill when they decided to close Japan Studio which was a studio that put out some really creative and unique first party games like Gravity Rush or Puppeteer. Now Sony won't ever express enthusiasm for a game if it's not a cinematic Oscarbating popcorn title like The Last of Us.

@@Nin10Guy They only truly closed it cause it wasn't making money. I love gravity rush, but no one bought it.

Thank you, tired of these movie like games

Theres nothing wrong with games having cinimatic traits

I dunno Ace attorney existed before the last of us what’s your opinion on that

No! I like cinematic games there are not exactly movies they are something in between tbh. I hate when people say I don't like x you can't like x it's shouldn't exist we only need y which I like. Bruh. I can only agree that we need more diversity in genres, because having only one genre is stupid and boring after some time

Don't play them? You have a choice. Not every game coming out is a "movie" game, infact most games coming out right now are either survival games or live service games.

It's actually more like a real life female psychiactric ward.

​@@JG9KZfaq 🤣

pov schizophrenic female

@@JG9KZfaq as a schizophrenic i approve. And me too

@@JG9KZfaq fucking lol

Except the microwave wasn’t plugged in

Not an argument, Sonybrony

@@notsoluckybearaikoo Not an argument, Sonybrony

​@@notsoluckybearaikooThe amount of people literally defending the last of us is crazy here

Bioshock did that also

Left 4 dead series did that as well

@@brandonzavala2118 i literally played left 4 dead 2 and had no idea what the fuck is happening in the story besides them finding new ways to get away

​@@brandonzavala2118 bro it was an co op shooter

And those scenes FUCKING SUCK. I say this as a lifelong Valve fan who has 100%ed HL2: being locked in a room while people waffle is trash and I would prefer a cutscene I can skip. Naughty Dog's cutscenes are superior no diff, nobody likes to admit that but it's true.

Nah. Narrative novels with minimal gameplay have ruined gaming. Im having more fun playing old action based games or shooters (even though I am a big RPG fan) than I could ever have with games like the ones mentioned in this video.

@@ShepardCommander OK that's your opinion thanks for sharing. please give me 5 examples of 'narrative novels with minimal gameplay' that came out this year/2023

@@jlo9993 He won't be able to answer that lol

@@luccasalomone4063 exactly

@@jlo9993 This. People act like gaming has this problem when we barely have games like that. The obvious "meta" atm is nearly... the opposite. Completely story-free "endlessly replayable" battle royale/season pass/multiplayer/looter shooter nonsense that's just drowning the market, or those "endless hours of the same shit" open world games. In fact, the games with heavy emphasis on story often *still* have a *lot* of gameplay to offer. The fact we're actually in an age where suddenly people say tlou of all games is ruining gaming just speaks of how completely cynical and trying to be miserable gamers have become. I play games from 20 years ago. Games from 15 years ago. Games from 10 years ago. Games from 5 years ago. Games that came out this year. Why? Because I stay away from the actual crap - the things I mentioned above. In most other categories, games are still churning out amazing title after amazing title. The biggest problem imo is that gamers nowadays are so obsessed with every game having to be either as incomprehensible as David Lynch (aka anything done even a bit before ever is bad) or at least as difficult as a fromsoft game. Or maybe those people are just an obnoxiously loud minority.

This guy wouldn't dare to Play mgs and silent hill, because accordingly mgs will be a movie, and silent hill a walking simulator, he didn't play uncharted before even making this video, and is speaking all wikipedia here

@@hemangkorane1797 Silent Hill has way more gameplay and doesn't hold your hand like modern Sony games do dude lmao cope

​@@hemangkorane1797 Death Stranding is slow but good, it pave a new genre i think. It has simulator and building element.

Actually it's a bit of a misconception. Video games just like music and movies can be objectively bad. However that does not mean that bad games and movies can't still be enjoyed and liked by groups of people. The quality of movies and games is very concrete as there are many things you have to take into consideration when developing a game or writing a script for a movie. Example: Say I were to write a script for a movie. I would have no time to put effort into it and I would be complete inexperienced as well. I could litter the movie full of setups and no payoffs along with a couple of characters with no personality traits. That would make for an objectively bad movie. There are rules and guidelines that apply for good game design just as with movies. Game balance and difficulty curve are just two of them.

passive consumerism

100% a HIGHLY suggestive statement. For me TLOU 1 and 2 is the most fun I've ever had gaming. The stealth and aggressive game play styles make me feel like such a badass and I love having to think critically with my choices to avoid running out of bullets.

Exactly. High subjective. Bro really think his opinions are objective.

​@@MangapanNot necessarily. Games and movies cannot be "objectively bad". That's not how shit works.

yeah, some games did definitely take too many notes from LOU but it's a bit of a stretch to say it "ruined gaming".

Exactly, this video is just so stupid

Not really. Western gaming is now almost entirely "Emotional Cinematic Experience" slop.

​@@johnconnor5157 That's why we're here watching it, right?

@@skybluenerd219 yeah, to remind us there are people trying to manufacture a narrative with stupid takes and unfactual claims.

Right 😂 this guy sounds dumb

Lol basically despite the GoW 2017 (and not ragnarok) was great

uncharted 4, hzd, hfw, days gone, death stranding, spider-man, alan wake 2, ff16, hellblade 1/2

@@AMG_gang Death Stranding is a open world game about deliveries nothing like TLOU. There were 3 Uncharted games before TLOU, Uncharted 4 is just a sequel to 3 made by the same company as TLOU. Spider-Man plays nothing like TLOU. Alan Wake came before TLOU. You mentioned TWO Horizon games which of course, play nothing like TLOU. Final Fantasy 16 (wtf) is nothing like TLOU in any way. Days Gone is a open world game focused on horde clearing, the only similarity to TLOU is that they are "zombie games" which TLOU did not invent. I give you Hellblade, that was probably inspired by TLOU. This is HILARIOUS, those are the games that TLOU ruined?

@@homem-pobre all have boring walking sections that shouldn’t exist in games, your point?

@@AMG_gang Are you lost or something? This video claims TLOU is responsible for "ruining gaming" when that is clearly not the case. My comment is a response to that as God of War was mentioned in the video. Also that's just your opinion, to me you mentioned some great games.

AAA has been kinda meh for very long ass time. AAA just doesn't innovate, in general it does not. There are few exceptions but not nearly enough. That is why I keep having far more fun with AA and small budget games and occasionally enjoy a few AAA when they make something good.

"Elden ring is one of the few atypical AAA games that actually felt new" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA NO WAY. Please be joking 😂😂😂😂 Shit is the most old hate, rinse and repeat soulshit 💀Third person action adventure is about as fresh as Joe Biden.

@@spugelo359 Yeah true even back then, the SNES had so much slop Megaman ripoff platformers or the Final Fantasy clones. Usually there will always be one innovative game in a sandfield of copies that will be the platonic ideal for the ones of its kind-

@@spugelo359 Did you play games in the 90's and 00's? I don't know what you consider a long time, but there were tons of amazing games in the triple A market up until around 2010.

two ahtes I really don't get, a fixed camera angle allows for some wonderfull visuals and quick time events can be fantastic if done right.

@@toongrowner1 I know it also provides more tension in a horror game. Because you have a very limited camera it fills you with a sense of dread as you don't know what's around the next corner and it's very chlaustrophobic.

Resident evil 1 remastered is amazing

😂

@@theostrowskibrothers3068 I don't know what the pepper means?

Sure that scene is good but ragnarok is great growth for a character like Kratos after everything that he’s been through

Actually feels like he regressed, like he's afraid of his own power.

@@MrManfhis He's older and wiser in every way possible and he grew into an actually complex character that isn't just really angry. You coulnd't be more wrong in saying that he regressed.

I like how you say this as if Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 never happened. Hate to break it to you, but Sony exclusives only make up a fraction of what's available today

Once again you people attack on good games and praise bad games that you suffer and lose in it and there is no fun in it like literally the soulsborn from software games and every single hard core video games that you lose and die over and over and over again and have no fun with it

@Nooneishereonlyme What game have I attacked? Also, if you keep losing in a Fromsoft game, that's on you bro. Not the game

Same here, I play mostly JRPGs, Mega Man, Souls games, and old Nintendo titles on emulators. Gaming is still as fun as it was when I was a kid, the problem is that gamers buy into the hype instead of the quality!

@@mrfuriousnerd1127 Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 aren't AAA; AAA describes the corporate backing of a project, not how popular it is.

Problem is that if one thing is very successful then everything will be a cheap imitation of it for the next decade to cash in on the formula. It happened with superhero films and overly narrative based games, and who can forget the cesspool that was YA fiction.

Name 5 games that came our this year that's been cinematic

@@redninja3056 this year has been fine till now, I was talking about the decade after the first last of us. And it's not even about number but the marketing. Even in films other types of films are being made but the ones marketed are just focus group tested safe stuff without any voice.

@@prakharkirtijajoria5314 I promise for every cinematic game you name I could name like 5 more souls likes that's not cinematic, 5 indie games that's not cinematic, and 5 first person shooters or looter shooters or live service games all not being cinematic so no compared to most types of games cinematic games don't have that much in comparison, it's simply a genre that's been done badly and done well just like any other

So this is new trend, complaining about cutscenes like if old RPG Snes games for example didn't have super long "cutscenes", or if MGS didn't do this in 1998, much more than TLOU. This new generation of younger players like to say these non-sense things like this video as if they wanted to prove something, like if they were "old school" and because complaining about some popular games is "cool" and all. Complaim less and play more, apreciate the game for what it is.

It's a point and click choose your own adventure game, tf do you expect? Clearly i was expecting too much when i wanted ND to evolve their Gears Of War type gameplay, but at least i got my wish with Uncharted 4. How does TLOU justify gameplay outside of being a poor mans Gears Of War? Genuine question too, I'm still trying to figure out if it's more successful as a show than a game so if you're a fan then your answer matters

@@XpertGreekGamer The story is great. Even the gameplay was interesting since I played on grounded difficulty. I had to resort only on stealth and nelee weapons, and also bottles and bricks, and since the ammunition and scrap material was scarce, you literally had to look for it throughout the game. Used firearms very rarely, so overall it was a good survival experience.

@@inceptionsd sa less complicated version of New Vegas and Resident Evil ik, idk about its status as a show tho. Can't find anywhere online if it's objectively better as a show or the other way around, what worked best for people but also fans

@@XpertGreekGamer tlou shooting is really really nice but then they give you like 3 bullets and you have to scower the map (path) for ammo and rags

Telltale TWD is a completely different genre entirely. Those are point and click adventure games ala Monkey Island.

6:56

​@@Supercon613thanks

@@au_fish13something56 no prob 👍🏻

Yes, you can tell by the very subtly placed barricades.

​@@Supercon613get rid of the god damn popping sound in your videos it's fucking unnecessary and such a god awful stupid fucking sound some people have hyperacusis or misophonia and they hate that sound can't even watch the fucking video now

You really have bad taste in story telling huh

Jokes on you, Sonic Unleashed has a nice story

spoken like someone who hasn't played unleased

Sure, there's only 19 buttons and a touchpad on a standard PS controller now, and every one of these games probably uses every single gameplay related one for multiple actions, in multiple contexts, but because they're "cinematic" it's watered down... Like they're mobile games or something.

Okay? What’s wrong with that? They’re just trying to appeal to a wide audience. What’s wrong with that.

@@mal7182 If you appeal to everyone you appeal to no one.

​@@mal7182they dont appeal to an audience wide enough to surround your mother

​@@futurestorytellerif u think pressing a bunch of buttons makes for good gameplay i can give u a link to order some fidget toys

People treat videogames like politics. If it doesn't follow there works view it should be destroyed or disappear into irrelevantcy.

don't worry, i will

can't call it a game if you're playing a movie

​@@ryszakowySuck a dick i absolutely loved last of us 2 ❤

@@solidsnake21 tf? you can just go search "last of us 2 stealth" on here and see one the most fluid and immersive third person gameplay out there

tlou2 was great in terms of gameplay and visuals, i just didn't like the characters, they got joel killed and forced us to play as a corny 18 years old lesbian girl, uncool naughty dog

I agree, but not entirely: in terms of storytelling, From Software has never been exactly good at it. The story of the world around you is only ever interesting if you actively search for it, and while it's important to have gameplay first (after all, Elden Ring is indubitably a masterpiece), a dark fantasy RPG world *should* have an engaging story. And story it has, but no storytelling- or rather, in the form of item descriptions and online lore searches, which ruin the atmosphere of living everything with personal experience. Regardless, I agree with the general sentiment

@@rubber161 I second this. I get the appeal of learning new story and lore beats that are told in indirect ways that the player has to put special effort on, and discussing the lore with the community is fun. But only if it's used as a bonus. The problem with FromSoftware games is that is their main storytelling technique, and they barely use anything else. That creates a constant emotional barrier between the player and the world. How the hell are you supposed to form an emotional connection with a character by reading about something they went through in the description of a ring? That's just "Tell, don't show" with extra steps. At best, it feels like I'm studying the world as an archeologist, not experiencing an actual story.

@@XanderVJ Exactly. Which, like you said, can be super interesting- if there is a storytelling that *makes* it interesting to purposefully seek and discover these descriptions. Ultimately, From's games have a great story-writing but a very poor story-*telling*

Tbh I'm not interested in souls games

@@rubber161 i don't agree. fromsoft has mesmerizing gameplay instead of a story, which is what i prefer. i don't need a narrative type game story in my fromsoft game, it's excessive and not necessary. story is like fat on edge of a steak. some might prefer but i don't, i prefer a lean cut like from gives us

It´s really wild how he keeps focusing on the camera as if thats what makes the gameplay the gameplay lol He keeps calling the games movie games as if combat doesn´t exist or level design, or even exploration (which i can understand for some games like TLOU but... Days Gone? Horizon? God of War? all of those games are open levels and open worlds with a big focus on exploration. I guess we need games without story telling or any sort of cinematics for video maker to be satisfied lol Ironically making gaming less varied

Totally, I mean I'm just half the video and the only thing I understand is that he wants a game that continuously have game play, I bet that if will be ever a game that only has random good gameplay without story or telling why he would love it, is just like he likes gameplay and doing something all the time, he doesn't like pauses. TLOU is ab amazing game and it's successor is even better in my opinion. Gow just keeps getting better even after the reboot. Etc

​@@salo37 the only thing I think they should improve is replayability, in GOW it's way worse, between having to go through tight spaces (which is a thing I wish was dead, because it serves nothing but delay the story and gameplay) and having to go through all of Ironwood again (why isn't there an option to skip?). But other than that, the new GOWs are great

⁠​⁠@@miguelsalamanca2813I actually do talk about the combat of TLOU at 6:56

Visceral gameplay? You mean two minutes of clicking on an enemy after 40 minutes of movie?

RE4 isn't close to be a "movie" with some gameplay

If that's how far we're going to go back to, we might as well put all the blame on Valve with Half-Life 1 and Konami's Metal Gear Solid.

It's trash imo but it was still very gameplay driven.

@@peacecraft9354 RE4 is one of the best games ever made

@@moycorbin4750 Oh, but Days Gone is?

It partly rose from the insecurity of some game devs not having their art form taken seriously by longer established art forms - film, being the main one. Also, there was a time when adults (and late teens) who played video games were considered lame and/or immature. And then you have those who couldn't succeed in their moviemaking endeavors decide to pursue game dev. Kojima is probably the most successful example.

English SMB2 or Japanese (AKA The Lost Levels)?

Well, Atleast Some Of Us are Not Blind. Aside from Marvel Spider-Man 2018, Rachet & Clank Rift Apart ... I don't recall any Game From Sony that is not a BackShot Walking Sim

@@Sb129Gaming gonna get that 3rd one later this year soon 👊🏻

Yeah, most game developers specifically. They're more interested in using gaming to push a sociopolitical message.

@@AdoreYouInAshXIbro you need to get a life. Your way too upset about video games focus on getting a girlfriend or something

Are you talking to me

@@skybluenerd219 you feel offended, so yes.

@@johnconnor5157 i am?

@@skybluenerd219 yes. If you wanna fight drop your location. If you want to have a conversation, respond with an opinion. That’s the only choices you’re getting here

@@robbylebotha oh okay sweet

Kid spotted

@@3ulld4wg20 zoomie spotted

@husky6672 same...if the story can't be kept to an opening cutscene and only coming back at a bare minimum I want nothing to do with it, and the very few cutscenes better have comedic dialog!

I appreciate Kojima's game design epically death stranding

@@Snake_eyes0 true

I gotta disagree. Metal Gear Solid games had excessive cutscenes that dragged 1000 times longer than either Last of Us game. Maybe you preferred its premise over Last of Us or the setting, but the fact that Kojima enjoyed wasting your time with cinematics, can't be ignored.

mgs4 last cutscene is literally 2h movie

@@Misty25939 its personal taste, fairly simple

I agree. I’m very interested in stories, but there is fun gameplay Nintendo games.

You’re wrong tho

@@JC-hi8fkOpinion can’t be wrong lol.

I think the point is how many games put the narrative first instead of gameplay

"....the intense storyline of naughtydog games" 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

Totally agree.

@@Lord_Kratos69 Red dead redemption 2 is a masterpiece

​@@SavageJD999they're both masterpieces

then you haven't played god of war 3

Thanks, will keep that in mind

A generic story isn't brilliant

@@redfoxbennaton a generic story told in the best way possible is a brilliant story.

@@uzeenrai what’s the nostalgia?

I hate to say this because at this point is a freaking cliche but.....go touch grass bro

Deltarune fan

True atleast someone has IQ here

And yet they were recieved well by audiences. Must be doing something right.

If someone says "This movie had great... sound design" you're doing something wrong...

@@bolg892 You're conflating popular with good, the Jurassic World movies were successful but they're made of ass. General audiences are morons.

Most people find it great, though lol this is mostly the opinions of the minority. Doesn't mean there isn't criticisms, but it's not objectively bad.

For me personally I really lost interest in both god of war and FF7 remake. The first new god of war was fun at first but I got really bored playing. The story was fantastic but that just met I started watching clips on KZfaq instead of playing it. Same for FF7 remake. I found it clunky and just not fun to play, so the story and characters weren’t enough to keep me playing when I could just watch it instead.

Yeah PS3 catalog was amazing Resistance, Uncharted, God of War 3, GTA 4, Blur, Sonic Unleashed etc..

@@AB-fr2ei ...Killzone, Motorstorm, Sly Cooper, Rachet and Clank, Jak, Dead Space...

His video is literally just about PlayStation first party games. He’s says it’s the industry but all his examples are just PlayStation first party games. That’s like .01% of the industry

@@EggEnjoyer that's what I noticed too.

@@EggEnjoyer And he only uses GoW 2018 as an example, which makes it worse, as Sony usually releases 2 or more AAA per year, that is, it is not even 5% of PlayStation Studios games since 2013-2024

the horizon games, days gone his argument of "over the shoulder" games dont even make sense when he doesnt include GTA and RDR in them, when those two series are the biggest walking and driving simulators of all time (and they are damn fucking good at it!)

@@veilzahkaay9419 And Resident Evil, Dead Space. All the games TLOU is drawing inspiration from...

@@veilzahkaay9419 Probably because there's far more gameplay than walking or driving in them? Have you ever played either??

You're right, you're absolutely right. But you misspelled FFT. :^)

Bro There is something called reality too not all grown man wants to play your shitty fantasy bullshit

Yeah me too, that's why I feel a bit surprised some people don't vibe with GOW, like in terms of storytelling that's such a flawless experience... What games did you find had the most compelling storylines?

@@PriyansuBhagabati People who hate "movie games" are just small minded. Real gamers play more than just 1 genre.

they're going down a pipeline to find reasons to hate anything people love, dude says GOW 2018 didn't suit kratos but he's the first person I've ever seen say that

@@princepeachfuzz yeah.

pong is fun

Nah mate, it's all been downhill since Tennis For Two

I like the last of us gameplay.

Bioshock Infinite is a phenomenal game. It may have ditched its immersive sim roots, but it's still my favourite in the trilogy.

And Infinite was a heavily watered down and casualized version of Bioshock, which was a heavily watered down and casualized version of System Shock 2. Bad example to use.

Same

I loved it until island 3 when it felt like they ran out of budget lol. The islands after the second were either completely lifeless, recycled or both. The bosses were also shockingly easy after the second one which was tough. Getting sucked into sidescrolling sections on the islands. It had potential and I'm excited to see how they can build and improve on it.

not even the arkham games want to be the akrham games anymore (see suicide squad) even though this formular worked perfect for the superhero genre. But nope, for some reason people still demand for online multiplayer of single player games, even though I'm sure the ps3 era showed why this is dumb

​@@toongrowner1 "Same universe" but it's certainly not an arkham game, it's not even in the same genre.

They have much in common

Yeah, I think he means games that focus more on the narrative experience than on gameplay elements/mechanics. Show (play), don't tell. Player choice in conversations makes the narrative sections of some games more "gamey" in that there's player interaction during the storytelling. Games are inherently about being an interactive entertainment experience and less a passive one.

Wait till bro finds out it's called a story game💀

@@princepeachfuzz I saw someone use it as an example of "AAA open world slop" once 💀💀💀

And it sucks. I love HL2, I have every achievement. But those parts? They suck. TLOU mops the floor with HL2 in that regard and several others, but people are too hiveminded to say it.