How the rift between Ray Allen and the Celtics got so big

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Rajon Rondo has confirmed that the Celtics are leaving Ray Allen out of their 10-year championship vacation this summer, which prompted me to want to tell the full story of how the rift started between Ray and the Celtics in the first place. Enjoy!
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@VICTORGENTRY
@VICTORGENTRY 7 жыл бұрын
Ray should call up the former Miami players and have a 5 year championship reunion just to piss off Rondo Lmao.
@tiismuna
@tiismuna 7 жыл бұрын
victor gentry LBJ would make an every year party for Ray, if he have a time he can make it everyday for what Ray did.. LMAO
@mrsain19
@mrsain19 7 жыл бұрын
shit wouldnt be too hard, all of them damn near still live in south Florida, Wade included.
@iamhungey12345
@iamhungey12345 7 жыл бұрын
He should. Hail Jesus Shuttleworth!
@ARS_Time_Bomb
@ARS_Time_Bomb 7 жыл бұрын
victor gentry LMAO that would be funny and I hate the Heat team 😂😂😂😂
@roberdanger
@roberdanger 7 жыл бұрын
and send invites to the celtics as well lol
@jacobknighten798
@jacobknighten798 7 жыл бұрын
the way rondos personality is, I wouldn't be surprised if he thought he carried that championship Celtics team
@artelisaris
@artelisaris 7 жыл бұрын
I think he actually said he was the part of the big three with garnet and pierce.But dont quote me on that
@menaalex8
@menaalex8 7 жыл бұрын
Jacob Knighten rondo kept Boston competitive longer than they should have a walking triple double an all NBA defense selection he was a top 3 pg until teared his acl that was when his career ended
@TheBoxOfCreativity
@TheBoxOfCreativity 7 жыл бұрын
Arturas Višniauskis No he said I always thought of us as the Big 4
@jacobknighten798
@jacobknighten798 7 жыл бұрын
Alex Mena rondo literally said in an interview that he hadn't played defence in years, while he was still a Celtic, he got steals sure, but he was a stat junky, he would go for steals when he shouldn't gamble. I can tell u as a bulls fan he does it all the time
@telamon1071
@telamon1071 7 жыл бұрын
Jacob Knighten ur clearly 7 years old if u don't remember how good Rondo was.
@keithbailey6268
@keithbailey6268 7 жыл бұрын
If I was Ray Allen I would have left as well, they mad cause he won a ring with miami, Boston management made it clear they didn't want him there by trying to keep trading him.
@Dom2k16
@Dom2k16 7 жыл бұрын
keith bailey True
@eltonvalmagtibay8682
@eltonvalmagtibay8682 6 жыл бұрын
same
@terrellhubbard
@terrellhubbard 5 жыл бұрын
I agree
@oshura2506
@oshura2506 4 жыл бұрын
keith bailey no they were mad he abandoned them for a team that just beat them. The ring just made it worse.
@thegto8535
@thegto8535 4 жыл бұрын
@@oshura2506 so they are salty bitches ? miami is basically tax free, had an amazing team, and good weather, it was the perfect exit for his career after the celtics made quite clear he wasn't that important to them. if his so called "brothers" couldn't and still don't get that it's on them.
@mrflynn01
@mrflynn01 5 жыл бұрын
Ray Allen understood he was dealing with snakes and bounced on the Celtics. #goodnight
@allenrhea
@allenrhea 7 жыл бұрын
It worked out for Ray Allen. He got another ring and was a huge contributor.
@Jacobean010
@Jacobean010 5 жыл бұрын
Allen Rhea saves lebron a career
@Tigerjuhhh
@Tigerjuhhh 4 жыл бұрын
He made the most clutch on ive seen in NBA history outside of maybe Kawhi game 7 buzzer beater at the playoffs.
@albanmakolli8232
@albanmakolli8232 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tigerjuhhh ray's shot was in the finals so it was more clutch
@anthonywatley3036
@anthonywatley3036 4 жыл бұрын
Haters both pp n kg ray ray did what was best 4 him n his career at the time and Paul really tripping he couldn't hold dee wades jock strap let alone the king s ran him out of cle that s why kg went to net's with Paul right I guess shack ran kg out of Minnesota
@kamalattoh7125
@kamalattoh7125 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywatley3036 English my man, do you speak it?
@cstc1235
@cstc1235 7 жыл бұрын
Tbh Ray Allen is one of my favorite NBA players it's hard to call him a snake or a traitor
@MrDiMES123
@MrDiMES123 7 жыл бұрын
chandler st cloud st cloud chandler they snaked him tbh by trying to trade him
@BluWaves
@BluWaves 7 жыл бұрын
chandler st cloud st cloud chandler not my favorite but I liked to see him play especially back when he was on the Supersonics with R. Lewis.
@hectorandem2944
@hectorandem2944 7 жыл бұрын
How _could_ he be a traitor - even hypothetically - if he's getting disrespected left right and centre?
@brandonamundt
@brandonamundt 7 жыл бұрын
Hector Andem first he is a traitor and America is the best country so its spelled center
@shreyasinamdar9841
@shreyasinamdar9841 7 жыл бұрын
That's what people said about KD. Doesn't change the fact that he's a traitor, does it?
@Damashi4prez
@Damashi4prez 7 жыл бұрын
At the end of it all, Ray Allen has 2 rings compared to Pierce's and KG's one.
@tiismuna
@tiismuna 7 жыл бұрын
S6T6NS N6TION sealed it with a clutch 3
@dmillzmoney4369
@dmillzmoney4369 7 жыл бұрын
S6T6NS N6TION so what they still got rings
@mbaer5
@mbaer5 7 жыл бұрын
Dont sleep on Sam Cassell.. Hes got 3
@nicksol9721
@nicksol9721 7 жыл бұрын
They each would have 2 if Ray didnt go to the Heat 👀
@umlbp
@umlbp 7 жыл бұрын
Nick Solomon maybe they shouldn't have tried to trade every season and make him take pay cuts and give him shitty contracts. in return for his loyalty they treated him like shit. Then he did what's good for him and he's disloyal. i understand pierce and garnetts beef but no one else should care.
@Artist21st
@Artist21st 7 жыл бұрын
IMHO Ray Allen is a great player and person I met him when I lived in Milwaukee... he got out of his SUV to help me get unstuck from the snow..
@spyyadyc5229
@spyyadyc5229 5 жыл бұрын
Romero R r/thathappened
@Tigerjuhhh
@Tigerjuhhh 5 жыл бұрын
wow thats awesome. Thats a down to earth person right there!
@sevenofcrows7
@sevenofcrows7 5 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee still loves ray Allen, Glen Robinson, and Sam Cassell
@jayinthecutlikeperoxide
@jayinthecutlikeperoxide 7 жыл бұрын
No Ray No Ring
@umlbp
@umlbp 7 жыл бұрын
Jaden Triolo True for Boston and Miami
@Jay_draco
@Jay_draco 6 жыл бұрын
umlbp Miama has Ray Allen in 2014
@thegoldenhero
@thegoldenhero 6 жыл бұрын
Rondo wasn't fucking important lol
@ronanlynch4126
@ronanlynch4126 6 жыл бұрын
thegoldenhero you probably didn’t watch the Celtics is 2008 then
@thegoldenhero
@thegoldenhero 6 жыл бұрын
let's just say it wasn't no damn big 4 lol
@Contestedshooter
@Contestedshooter 7 жыл бұрын
I hope Brian Scalabrine was invited
@cjbostonstrong8480
@cjbostonstrong8480 7 жыл бұрын
Leensanity2k He's still with the Celtics organization, of course he is.
@GTR24
@GTR24 7 жыл бұрын
WTF you mean? the 10 year anniversary cake is in the shape of Scal's face
@nikobellic1775
@nikobellic1775 7 жыл бұрын
Leensanity2k Brian is the party
@tzovlask
@tzovlask 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Scalabrine is a one man big 3!!
@stonersimpson_
@stonersimpson_ 7 жыл бұрын
GOAT Mcgee he didn't go though . the goat stays mutual
@yuch1102
@yuch1102 7 жыл бұрын
that's really childish of them...let by gone be by gones, they won a championship together, and Ray Allen was a huge piece of that, just because he made a decision based on his career does not mean he should just be left out celebrating what they did together. At the very least, invite him because he may decline anyways.
@jayyhype7909
@jayyhype7909 5 жыл бұрын
A year later and I'm the only that agrees to this 💯🤦🏽‍♂️
@hoteltrivago1380
@hoteltrivago1380 5 жыл бұрын
Although I do partially agree, you also have to consider that they created a very strong bond in Boston. They were together everyday and were just a family. They expected to be treated back as they were family. I feel though that there is something that none of them are telling us, cause it does seem a bit fishy
@javonsmith6791
@javonsmith6791 4 жыл бұрын
yuch1102 .What you guys need to understand is Ray also had a sick child and the best doctors for his child was in Miami but the fuck niggas won’t say that.
@futuregohan4837
@futuregohan4837 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron Would've Said Fuck You Assholes You Treat Your King Like Shit I Ain't Going
@futuregohan4837
@futuregohan4837 4 жыл бұрын
LeBron Would've Said Fuck You Assholes You Treat Your King Like Shit I Ain't Going
@08crazytony
@08crazytony 5 жыл бұрын
I personally enjoyed seeing the throwback 2005 SuperSonic 1-2 punch of Allen and Lewis getting their rings in Miami.
@laxerifun
@laxerifun 7 жыл бұрын
I think for me and a lot of people it wasn't the fact that kd left , it was more about where he went
@TimDaGoof
@TimDaGoof 6 жыл бұрын
Should’ve went home to Washington with Beal and Wall, would’ve dominated the East
@nathaniellevesque2782
@nathaniellevesque2782 6 жыл бұрын
Had he went to say, the Spurs, there wouldn't be as much of a negative reaction. Some Thunder fans would be mad, but it would be nowhere near the level of hate he got for going to the Warriors.
@dennissmith9294
@dennissmith9294 4 жыл бұрын
If you disrespect a player by keep trying to trade him. Ray just moved on. I m not mad at him. Two Championship is the results
@robgregg2653
@robgregg2653 3 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯Truth be Told💯💯💯
@redx453
@redx453 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was because he joined a team that went 73-9. It was about the mentality of joining that team. Taking the easy path. It was unlike Lebron, Wade, and Bosh making a team or Ray, Truth, and KG. He could've gone anywhere not CLE or GSW. He could've formed a team with any star (Kawhi, PG, Beal and Wall etc.)
@MannyMensah94
@MannyMensah94 7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this. I understand Kg and Paul were upset of Allen going to the Heat because he is playing for the enemy. also, allen had to right to leave and doesn't owe KG and Pierce anything. He did his job.
@terrellhubbard
@terrellhubbard 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. He did his part
@shadyboy5090
@shadyboy5090 5 жыл бұрын
terrell hubbard No ray no ring and its different than KD cuz Ray was close to the end had bad ankles and Boston clearly didnt want him Miami needed him and they wouldnt have won without him he saved Lebrons career.
@greatomeister675
@greatomeister675 5 жыл бұрын
Shady Boy Without Rondo they wouldnt win 08
@parkerxjr
@parkerxjr 4 жыл бұрын
@@greatomeister675 BIG 3. What has Rondo done since ? 3 people drawing double teams
@chouavue9056
@chouavue9056 7 жыл бұрын
This story just made his 3-point shot in the Final vs the Spur even that more meaningful.
@Jayden-ej5nj
@Jayden-ej5nj 7 жыл бұрын
I still support ray Allen like if you do
@zioncartel
@zioncartel 7 жыл бұрын
Dion J11000 fuck yeah sugar ray all the way all day
@JinjaOnHere
@JinjaOnHere 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best SG of all time
@johnAG
@johnAG 6 жыл бұрын
DJH 11000 you're a miami fan....
@supremedreamsproductionsti3600
@supremedreamsproductionsti3600 5 жыл бұрын
Always been a fan since he played at uconn. I lived right up the street from the uconn campus I would see him at parties all the time. Cool ass dude real down to earth.
@TheNBAFreak
@TheNBAFreak 5 жыл бұрын
Nigga you're a Heat fan of course you're gonna say that 😂
@Kalinbuggs
@Kalinbuggs 7 жыл бұрын
Without Ray Allen they don't win the Championship he should have got invited Idc if he left get over it
@ItsAnEndlessWorld
@ItsAnEndlessWorld 7 жыл бұрын
KE TV Agreed.
@TRJ2241987
@TRJ2241987 7 жыл бұрын
Celtics wouldn't have won the championship without a lot of guys that year. We really got out of the playoffs by the skin of our teeth. I'm not sure there is another championship team out there that won it all without winning a road game until Round 3. If we didn't have Sam Cassell and PJ Brown that year we probably wouldn't have even won. Rajon Rondo was a massive part of that team. The 2008 Celtics were an incredible team effort and it's sad that 10 years later everyone is being reduced to 'who individually was more importantant'
@Kalinbuggs
@Kalinbuggs 7 жыл бұрын
TRJ2241987 bruh I feel you but Ray was the third leading shooter
@jahaire31
@jahaire31 7 жыл бұрын
TRJ2241987 True but Ray was hitting crazy daggers, I seen a lot of jealousy with Pierce and Ray......Pierce was one of my favorites until KG got there with fucked up mentality
@foghornfoggyface
@foghornfoggyface 7 жыл бұрын
Easy to say that from the outside looking in. You're not a big man for loyalty it seems.
@LeBeautiful
@LeBeautiful 7 жыл бұрын
Man Dom2k doing big things even as a Celtics fan... thats why I ain't mad bruh! keep it up #Dom2kGOAT
@EngravedAxe
@EngravedAxe 7 жыл бұрын
Where were you last video. Didn't see any comment from you
@mrsain19
@mrsain19 7 жыл бұрын
finally someone made a clip with the rational and TRUE reasoning. too many Celts fans refer to Ray as a traitor as if Ray was some long time Celtic. Ray was ran out of Boston and the seeds were planted very early, long before he actually did depart. What stings Boston fans the most is not only did he go to Miami. Not only did he win a chip in Miami. But his signature career moment happened in Miami.
@holidayeveryday550
@holidayeveryday550 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a Celtic fan and never had any bad feelings toward Ray. The celtics were an ageing team whose run was over. Also he wasn't all that wanted by management
@bryanttisdale2446
@bryanttisdale2446 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Garnett said he wouldn't have gone to Celtics until he found out Ray Allen was also going. Then 2yrs later trying to trade him . Kg got hurt during the run he wasn't the same player either. They weren't treating him like that
@leemcb7297
@leemcb7297 4 жыл бұрын
The damn franchise is very disrespectful of players...and they even have the worst medical staff. Look at Bird, McHale's injury hell from the late 80s-early 90s -- you'll find everything from nails driven into feet to constant back surgeries. Disrespectful in that they benched great players and let politics run the show...how can a bum like Rondo act alpha when clearly his over-rated skills cannot match to Ray Allen's? So damn stupid this franchise is.
@MelShibson
@MelShibson 7 жыл бұрын
They were seriously gonna trade ya boy for OJ Mayo? Ultimate sign of disrespect.
@fastfire9319
@fastfire9319 7 жыл бұрын
Ray Allen helped them win and they're backstabbing him
@ezra7723
@ezra7723 7 жыл бұрын
Except Ray Allen backstabbed them
@ezra7723
@ezra7723 7 жыл бұрын
I'm fine with the fact that he left he had ever right to leave its just who he left to that pisses me off
@amieriddles
@amieriddles 7 жыл бұрын
Ezra77 his teammates ran him off, maybe if they didn't act like that he wouldn't have went to Miami lol
@lance7492
@lance7492 7 жыл бұрын
+Amie Riddles It wasn't his teammates, it was management.
@christopherk2841
@christopherk2841 7 жыл бұрын
ray was saying fuck you to boston
@than3500
@than3500 7 жыл бұрын
This is pretty classless since Ray Allen contributed more than Rondo and yet he's invited...
@dee4892
@dee4892 7 жыл бұрын
DeMar DeRozan Rondo is hosting it I think
@devvv4616
@devvv4616 7 жыл бұрын
for real. take ray allen out of that team and they wouldn't win it. he was having 50 pt games in the play offs!!
@timothy1949
@timothy1949 4 жыл бұрын
@@devvv4616 nah, 51 points was 2009 where KG was out. But in 2008 finals, ray allen averaged 20 points at 50% FG 52% 3 pt FG, 5 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.3 steals per game, best player on the court.
@theretrosavage
@theretrosavage 4 жыл бұрын
Debatable
@futuregohan4837
@futuregohan4837 3 жыл бұрын
If They Did The Same Thing To Kobe Kobe Would've Gone Nuts
@AD-vf3ek
@AD-vf3ek 4 жыл бұрын
I met Ray Allen too and he signed a basketball for me. He’s a nice guy.
@isaiah1931
@isaiah1931 7 жыл бұрын
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@Dom2k16
@Dom2k16 7 жыл бұрын
Rajon Rondo has confirmed that the Celtics are leaving Ray Allen out of their 10-year championship vacation this summer, which prompted me to want to tell the full story of how the rift started between Ray and the Celtics in the first place. It dates back quite a while, a lot further than when he left to Miami or even in 2012 which is what most of you probably think. The link to the stories I used are in the description. Like comment and sub if you enjoyed! *Hit the bell next to my name if you want notifications about my videos* Business email: Theweightliftingcentral@Gmail.com Patreon: patreon.com/dom2k16 Facebook: facebook.com/dom2k16 Twitter: twitter.com/dom_2k Instagram: instagram.com/dom_2k Snapchat: Dom_2k
@devmo03
@devmo03 7 жыл бұрын
Dom2k You should probably pin this comment since it is yours...
@dtrigs6795
@dtrigs6795 7 жыл бұрын
Dom2k ik this has nothing to do with video (by the way I enjoyed it) You should do a video about the 2009-2010 Lakers how they had a good squad with guys like Shannon Brown, Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, Lamar Odom, and the obvious ones and what went wrong with them just an idea
@MultiKillerface
@MultiKillerface 7 жыл бұрын
jdzspace23 you sound like an upset celtics fan. If you gonna hate on Ray Allen, hate the celtics management. The managent didn't put 100% effort in Allen, So he didn't put 100% effort in the team. He already was the one who took the paycut. Took the least amount of shots. And then every single time his name got mentioned in trade rumors. "Turn his back on the team that made him a champion" wasn't Ray Allen a part of the big 3?
@jdzspace33
@jdzspace33 7 жыл бұрын
I am upset, because i really liked and respected Judas, and he then turned on everyone. and management offered him double the money and a no trade clause to make it right, but he didn't have the dignity and respect for the team/fans/teammates to answer the phone......not even make a phone call, just to answer the incoming calls that came. and then had the balls to do interviews saying he had no desire to leave Boston.......he's a unbelievably massive tool and deserves to be called out as such. He COULD have been a legendary Celtic, with his number in the rafters and his name a part of the most storied franchise in NBA history. but he decided to turn his back on everything and just be a soulless hired gun.......so he deserves no forgiveness from Boston, from the team, or the players. to hell with him
@MultiKillerface
@MultiKillerface 7 жыл бұрын
"To make it right", but it was too late
@nss749
@nss749 4 жыл бұрын
One of doms best videos, I always come back to watch it every 6 months
@mxndough
@mxndough 7 жыл бұрын
Dom is literally the only youtuber I can watch the 10+ second intro every single video and still love it, lmao that beat is smackin. Plus homie got fire vids 😤👌
@drc1981
@drc1981 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! I never knew some of these trade offers made for Ray Allen. Just goes to show a lot of things happen that most people don't know about that can explain some of the feelings.
@aj_ono
@aj_ono 7 жыл бұрын
Damn... the Celtics beat the Lakers 10 years ago. I'm getting old lol
@nonsoomezi2404
@nonsoomezi2404 6 жыл бұрын
I'm Alex I remember being a 4yr old watching the Celtics thrash the Lakers
@VictorELayne77
@VictorELayne77 6 жыл бұрын
BiasedRocketsFan 34 then you became 6 and watched the Lakers beat the Celtics in game 7.
@dusk6159
@dusk6159 4 жыл бұрын
@@VictorELayne77 Yes, with KD injured and everyone aging.
@neanderthal599
@neanderthal599 4 жыл бұрын
Luka is overrated
@knicks2030
@knicks2030 4 жыл бұрын
After reading Ray's book everything you said was spot on and unbiased. Nice work and well researched since you made this video before the book came out!
@Dre3010
@Dre3010 7 жыл бұрын
Ray Allen was 37 you cant compare it to prime durant
@jermaineonealnumber7
@jermaineonealnumber7 7 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse you can't, 1 of the greatest shooters of all-time and a future HOFer vs a regular season star.
@ayayayaxd2639
@ayayayaxd2639 6 жыл бұрын
jermaineonealnumber7 so KD ain't HOF before he went to the bay?C'mon y'all bias when it comes to that kinda shit
@laserdemonfrostmage8421
@laserdemonfrostmage8421 5 жыл бұрын
ThatBoiDre or to be prime curry
@targettoad691
@targettoad691 3 жыл бұрын
The only 37 year old that was still elite is MJ
@bentwilleager5011
@bentwilleager5011 7 жыл бұрын
Rays situation is more comparable to Dwyane Wades decision to leave the Heat
@skyseeker9735
@skyseeker9735 7 жыл бұрын
Ben Twilleager Wade did not join the team that beat him in the playoffs. It's not that ray allen left, it's the fact he went to the team that beat him.
@R2theawesomeJ
@R2theawesomeJ 6 жыл бұрын
The "sign the contract if you really want to stay here" portion is extremely similar. They both got backstabbed by the front offices.
@GurveerChahal1
@GurveerChahal1 7 жыл бұрын
The difference is celtics weren't gonna win a championship kd choked when he was 1 game from beating the gsw
@rohangauris
@rohangauris 7 жыл бұрын
Joseph Roth they were all past their prime and got unlucky with a garnett injury it definitely wasn't a disappointment
@MrDiMES123
@MrDiMES123 7 жыл бұрын
Joseph Roth ain't no disappointment they proved doubters wrong every year saying they getting older but injuries stole a 3 peat
@dylanmanuel1301
@dylanmanuel1301 7 жыл бұрын
gurveer chahal they just lost a 7 game series to Miami wtf
@roshananderson
@roshananderson 7 жыл бұрын
gurveer chahal they where one game away from the finals twice, one of them games being on their home court?
@hectorandem2944
@hectorandem2944 7 жыл бұрын
Also, I doubt OKC treated KD like Boston disrespected Ray Allen.
@BudIce32oz
@BudIce32oz 7 жыл бұрын
I've been saying all this forever! Great vid. This needed light shed on it to put things in perspective
@damarcusgill5185
@damarcusgill5185 6 жыл бұрын
Luv to c a video where the narrator isn't biased and just call it how it is. Great video
@michaelgray1803
@michaelgray1803 7 жыл бұрын
When I leave a job I don't talk to my ex co workers
@jamesmarhen
@jamesmarhen 4 жыл бұрын
But do they hate you and consider you a traitor? You don't know because you don't talk to them but I doubt it. They probably think you did what was best for you like adults.
@thomaslequesne5475
@thomaslequesne5475 4 жыл бұрын
But you didn't spend your life with them like athletes do, practicing together, having a friendship outside of your workplace...
@michaelgray1803
@michaelgray1803 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomaslequesne5475 right 12 hours a day sometimes 7 days a week yearlong no off season you tell me
@thomaslequesne5475
@thomaslequesne5475 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelgray1803 I don't know where you work, but in most places you don't develop a great relationship with your co-workers outside of work. To be a successful basketball team, you need to know what the others will do and fully trust them to make the shot or the right decision in crucial moments. Also when a player gets traded he doesn't know the city nor anyone living there outside of his teammates and the staff. Again, where you worked may be different, but in most cases your work doesn't depend as much on the other's work, and their career decisions don't impact yours.
@michaelgray1803
@michaelgray1803 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomaslequesne5475 at work.
@abdullahabdulhadi8544
@abdullahabdulhadi8544 7 жыл бұрын
Wow this video was amazing how he explained it without being biased towards his team
@Jmaug
@Jmaug 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, very informative and it changes the way that I now see Ray (Benedict) Allen....
@LLPOF
@LLPOF 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Dom, just dropping a note to let you know how much I like your vids.
@MrKennyonthecobz
@MrKennyonthecobz 5 жыл бұрын
Can't blame Ray for anything he did. He still had greatness left in his tank and the Celtics didn't respect that.
@N8veJay
@N8veJay 7 жыл бұрын
Without Ray Allen, Ray Allen doesn't win his ring.
@mryetiman6302
@mryetiman6302 7 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@domwilsonchannel
@domwilsonchannel 7 жыл бұрын
I'll put Dom2k videos on in the background to listen to while I'm studying. But they're so engaging that I always end up watching them and neglecting my study...
@DoahandDucepodcast
@DoahandDucepodcast 7 жыл бұрын
Dominic Wilson check out my nba podcast
@mcstrad10
@mcstrad10 6 жыл бұрын
Another good video man. I didn't know the details about this story at all.
@johnpange7158
@johnpange7158 7 жыл бұрын
Ray was no longer a star, he was just a solid role player filling a hole with the heat (perimeter shooter lul) and he filled it perfectly. Complete opposite with kd, being the 2nd best player in the nba losing (choking) a 3-1 lead to the best team and then joining them. Not even remotely close
@MrDiMES123
@MrDiMES123 7 жыл бұрын
John Pange ray could have easily averaged 19 ppg as a starter if he didn't go to the heat even at that age
@thebigredmonster8264
@thebigredmonster8264 7 жыл бұрын
Heso Melo Jello if you watched the video, the celtics didn't give ray allen the role that he wanted offensively. Out of the big three he shot the less shots so that combined with the role he had, he couldn't of averaged 19 points.
@lilluch3988
@lilluch3988 7 жыл бұрын
James Lanziao Lebronthe best player gtfo
@robertbaratheon4621
@robertbaratheon4621 7 жыл бұрын
John Pange you're kind of right but ray is a star. everyone wanted him when he left the heats.
@TimDaGoof
@TimDaGoof 6 жыл бұрын
James Lanziao umm... so who was the first?
@samuelkeay6560
@samuelkeay6560 4 жыл бұрын
when you listen to ray talk about it it's difficult not to agree with him, the guy comes across so well
@Matt-io8cx
@Matt-io8cx 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I grew up with this team and Rondo was my fav player (I was 6-8 so allow me) and it's fun to see the celtics rebound
@thehighjedi5109
@thehighjedi5109 6 жыл бұрын
This is the first of your videos that I've seen and after watching the whole thing I'm definitely going to subscribe to your channel. You present your side of the story and facts in a very cool, calm, and collected way. You don't go to fast or let your emotions get the better of you and just present your video. I like that. You don't need to get all excited and start yelling and cussing and dropping F bombs everywhere. Thank you for that. Very enjoyable and I will be subscribing. You just earned another follower. Right on man!! 😎😎
@drizzydil944
@drizzydil944 7 жыл бұрын
Look how bad rondo got now since he doesn't have the big 3. He still can't shoot a jumper and barely free throws, the fact he is in the league still is surprising
@dechefmane3526
@dechefmane3526 7 жыл бұрын
Fururur 1 You know he did torn his ACL right
@drizzydil944
@drizzydil944 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Escibedi So a torn acl is gonna stop you from having a jumper
@dechefmane3526
@dechefmane3526 7 жыл бұрын
Fururur 1 Rondo was considered a top 5 PG in the league in his prime and helped kept the Celtics as title contenders when KG, Ray, and Pierre were all aging. He dropped 40+ points against the Heat big 3 in the playoffs. He could had won Finals MVP if the Celtics won it all in 2010. His challenges of injuries and his very high basketball I.Q ruined his career.
@drizzydil944
@drizzydil944 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Escibedi And westbrook has had injuries it's not stopping him
@drizzydil944
@drizzydil944 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Escibedi Just look when he went to the mavs he gave up on his teammates, the fact people are still signing him is surprising all he can do on offense is pass your basically playing 4v5 the entire time on offense
@pranavmoudgalya6449
@pranavmoudgalya6449 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Looking forward to your journey to the best sports commentator!
@TheDeMIlz
@TheDeMIlz 6 жыл бұрын
good to know rondo still appreciates his time in Boston, one of my favorite teams of all time, glad I went to HS when that team was around
@Therealzay4life
@Therealzay4life 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally another celtics fan who actually understands The Whole situation! You explained it great too.
@mr.martin6243
@mr.martin6243 6 жыл бұрын
I'm on Ray's side, how you gonna be in every trade rumor since you've basically been on the team and then when you decide to leave now everybody's trippin saying "he left us, he left us" you CLEARLY didn't want him that bad anyways lol Bet money that if Boston would have beaten the Heat they would have said nothing, sore losing asses! lmao (Laker Fan BTW)
@oshura2506
@oshura2506 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Martin Umm management didn’t want him doesn’t mean his teammates didn’t. They have every right to dislike him
@oshura2506
@oshura2506 4 жыл бұрын
bojo perez bruh do you not know how basketball works? Management screws over players and goes over their heads all the time
@oshura2506
@oshura2506 4 жыл бұрын
bojo perez bruh they got traded a few years later
@libatako
@libatako 3 жыл бұрын
@@oshura2506 KG and Paul didn’t say shit about the whole trade thing while he was there....so his”teammates saying something”?....get that shit out of here
@kennethbazilio9946
@kennethbazilio9946 7 жыл бұрын
Great didn't know all this, Truly a Celtics fan since the early 1960's. like you didn't like Ray going to Miami, but totally understand.
@mauryj9415
@mauryj9415 5 жыл бұрын
Mad vibes at the beginning🔥🔥
@Aardvark3154
@Aardvark3154 7 жыл бұрын
thank god for you spreading awareness.
@indmslikedeez8005
@indmslikedeez8005 7 жыл бұрын
Wtf? How u gonna have a trip with the big 3 and not have ray Allen? Rondo u not even part of the 3 wit yo nut head boy
@Ronnie-mx1wu
@Ronnie-mx1wu 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Yes it became a big 4 in the later years, rondo really carried them
@geminithegoatanderson3475
@geminithegoatanderson3475 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Yes rondo didn't carry them 😂😂
@indmslikedeez8005
@indmslikedeez8005 7 жыл бұрын
Lewis Anderson exactly😂😂
@geminithegoatanderson3475
@geminithegoatanderson3475 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Yes my bad bruh i was trynna tell the other dude that. rondo aint shxt lol.
@indmslikedeez8005
@indmslikedeez8005 7 жыл бұрын
Lewis Anderson u good G I knew what u meant lol
@elihernandez800
@elihernandez800 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Celtics fan. I'm glad that we all take Ray Allens side on this. He was actually the only homegrown star on that team thru UConn (New England)
@rogerdavis291
@rogerdavis291 7 жыл бұрын
Dude u are good at this great job
@edmichaelalobog8886
@edmichaelalobog8886 7 жыл бұрын
G.O.A.T. of Basketball KZfaqrs #1 - Dom2k #2 - Mike Korzemba #3 - SDC
@therealflamelit
@therealflamelit 7 жыл бұрын
Ximo pierto
@michaelcarter-williamsisth6518
@michaelcarter-williamsisth6518 6 жыл бұрын
Hold This L. Debarge L
@Kiddingyoumust
@Kiddingyoumust 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Morzemba is trash. I remember him having a video called "5 reasons why Jordan is God" or something like that. One of the reason was because Jordan said he would dunk on some player, and he did so. MDJ > Mike Morzemba
@InstaKilla360
@InstaKilla360 6 жыл бұрын
I agree I would put MDJ in there too
@patricesims7476
@patricesims7476 6 жыл бұрын
Mikaél Rence yeah i watch them
@FoxSports1340AM
@FoxSports1340AM 7 жыл бұрын
The NBA is a business but the Celtics could have handled that better.
@raylynch7412
@raylynch7412 4 жыл бұрын
Ray Allen carried that Team. 1st Championship Run He Deserves that Finals MVP!
@arthurmello355
@arthurmello355 5 жыл бұрын
Big Celtic fan, even when there not winning. Ray you aiding in the huge turn around and definitively aided in the banner. I was a big Ray Allen fan every where you went. I always was hoping you come to play for the Celtics, and was sad to see you go. I do understand the business end and it sucks. Still a big fan and Congrats to the Hall of Fame!
@JonoEMz
@JonoEMz 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a Celtics fan as well and After watching this video... Good on him for leaving! 👏🏼👌🏼
@waybronanthony3231
@waybronanthony3231 7 жыл бұрын
Obvious jealousy because Ray got that extra ring.. and his ring with Miami is more memorable because of the shot... Rondo ruins every team he is on.
@marquisdaniels9657
@marquisdaniels9657 7 жыл бұрын
jealousy? they hated him before he won another ring
@lubu2960
@lubu2960 7 жыл бұрын
Waybron Anthony meh..better be hated and famous than commeting in youtube
@triiii1303
@triiii1303 7 жыл бұрын
He had a bigger role on the celtics championship team tho right? Wouldn't that one mean more then
@quanbrooklynkid7776
@quanbrooklynkid7776 7 жыл бұрын
Waybron Anthony yup
@TheRealtalk617
@TheRealtalk617 6 жыл бұрын
HIs ring in Boston was more memorable he was going at it with Kobe Bryant in a Celtic vs Laker rivalry.
@drewskibabyyy2539
@drewskibabyyy2539 7 жыл бұрын
"Wassup NBA fans, Dom2k on the mic" I get excited every time he does his introduction lol
@DieNetaDie
@DieNetaDie 7 жыл бұрын
this clip made me subscribe
@somethingfishy1233
@somethingfishy1233 4 жыл бұрын
Good video dom 🔥💯
@drew5834
@drew5834 4 жыл бұрын
8:29 everyone is clapping for Ray Allen except Paul...
@cantguard26
@cantguard26 7 жыл бұрын
Rondo's personality doesn't mix well anywhere you need a strong coaching staff to be successful with him.
@Jonaske99
@Jonaske99 4 жыл бұрын
Ray should’ve won the Finals MVP back then. He was playing out of his mind that season, playoffs and made the biggest plays that Finals.
@michaelbell1725
@michaelbell1725 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really intrigued by the diversity of growth and maturity displayed here between teammates considering the business conducted by the franchise.
@nbatalk6103
@nbatalk6103 7 жыл бұрын
Ray Allen helped them win and there backstabbing him
@zj989
@zj989 7 жыл бұрын
Ray allen hands down best shooter 🔫🔫🔫
@notjazz.
@notjazz. 7 жыл бұрын
zach j curry
@jym4712
@jym4712 7 жыл бұрын
+jazz lawson would take ray over curry, he abit better in my opinion
@ccannon1258
@ccannon1258 7 жыл бұрын
how? why?
@1vaultdweller
@1vaultdweller 7 жыл бұрын
This is a disgrace to Scalabrine
@cousin_ryan
@cousin_ryan 7 жыл бұрын
zach j I'm a Cavs fan but, come on man, the greatest shooter ever is Steph and it's not even close.
@kensheebattousai
@kensheebattousai 7 жыл бұрын
I am on the same page as you man, went through all the same phases. But RAy was my favourite player in the NBA since he came in the NBA, along with Iverson, so i got over it after 1 or 2 seasons. But it took time. And I never really love the Heat. It hurt a lot though cuz I had never supported a franchise like the BIG 3 '08 celtics (i'm from France btw) so it hurt to see them break up, but i'd heard several times about the trades and trade rumors so I understand Ray. Plus the man isn't social, he has slight OCD so the fact he didn't interact as much off the court with teammates wasn't news to anyone in the NBA and not personal to C's. He was the same everywhere. Would love to see Ray on the Area 21 someday. Would be an epic moment.
@keithymg
@keithymg 7 жыл бұрын
Good video man
@Dom2k16
@Dom2k16 7 жыл бұрын
Muck Rabbit Thanks!
@roboninja3194
@roboninja3194 5 жыл бұрын
Remember the celtics tried trading ray multiple times. KG/rondo never criticize the celtics front office for this. They only go after ray. And somehow rondo/KG believe they had the right to tell ray allen which team he could sign with, which is beyond ridiculous. Ray took less money, they tried to trade em multiple times, then cut him out of the offense, but it's all his fault right? And a reunion tour for a team that won 1 ring? Please. Garnett was behind the entire don't invite ray thing, rondo was only the mouthpiece.
@lamontmoore9839
@lamontmoore9839 4 жыл бұрын
KG still mad at Marbury for leaving Minnesota
@TELEthruVOXx
@TELEthruVOXx 7 жыл бұрын
This is s damn good channel.
@goshenfilms
@goshenfilms 7 жыл бұрын
TOTALLY agree with this analysis.
@tallytaliano
@tallytaliano 6 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed! Great video
@ohmyassoff1087
@ohmyassoff1087 7 жыл бұрын
I can see it from both sides. For the celtics and the fans, obviously it hurts seeing a player go to a rival team, especially the two teams that probably had the most fierce one at the time. But at the same time, Allen was getting pushed out by the management and Rondo. I mean look where Rondo is now, he had no authority. Plus Ray was on the tail end of his career. It'd be like someone like Iggy going to Cleveland
@TheKazu42
@TheKazu42 7 жыл бұрын
Y'all are trippin or someone like Andrew Bogut.
@bmcguire175
@bmcguire175 7 жыл бұрын
Numbr81 exactly lol
@AbagailFisherGodLuvsMe
@AbagailFisherGodLuvsMe 7 жыл бұрын
It's not like he joined the lakers....
@therealflamelit
@therealflamelit 7 жыл бұрын
"like Iggy going to Cleveland..." pretty Much Richard Jefferson
@ohmyassoff1087
@ohmyassoff1087 7 жыл бұрын
Cleveland and GS weren't rivals when RJ was on the Warriors
@ranvirthandi7335
@ranvirthandi7335 7 жыл бұрын
rondo's just mad cuz ray has double his rings
@DoahandDucepodcast
@DoahandDucepodcast 7 жыл бұрын
Ranvir Thandi check out my nba podcast
@ghostrider1827
@ghostrider1827 4 жыл бұрын
If everything goes well for the Lakers this season, "Dough" will have his ring with LeBron too!!
@mrsky67
@mrsky67 4 жыл бұрын
@@ghostrider1827 2 Players doesnt mean an automatic championship.
@KP-zh5dw
@KP-zh5dw 3 жыл бұрын
Rondo might catch up to him this year
@billmichalis8943
@billmichalis8943 7 жыл бұрын
Ray Allen left a declining big-3 in Boston, while he was declining in order to be a role player on a superteam KD left a prime OKC, while he was in his prime, to join a "superteam" and form a big-4 with the team that narrowly beat him and he was so close to beating them, he had 3 chances to get 1 win and he just left them.
@why-even-try-brotendo
@why-even-try-brotendo 4 жыл бұрын
3:17 lol at Noah not taking the ball out before throwing it in.
@renzupsop
@renzupsop 5 жыл бұрын
8:32 Pierce’s jealous. Lol
@slimsolo1384
@slimsolo1384 4 жыл бұрын
Rondo cant be talking when he is playing with Lebron James on the Lakers.
@ponyboyy34_32
@ponyboyy34_32 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck rondo, he went to a rival team ! Not Ray
@wholelottared6166
@wholelottared6166 7 жыл бұрын
True Shit bro... Great content.. :) keep it up bro... Really like this channel :D
@byrronmobley1602
@byrronmobley1602 5 жыл бұрын
Stumbled upon this video and it's great. Just wonder what exactly happened between Rondo and Celtics management that made them want to trade him in a package a couple of times.
@chillshitboyy2856
@chillshitboyy2856 5 жыл бұрын
Probably the same thing that happens with him and any management. The guy is uncoachable
@ejfreeman7
@ejfreeman7 7 жыл бұрын
LeBron better get the 2012 Heat 5 year anniversary now
@duncansiror5033
@duncansiror5033 7 жыл бұрын
The Human Durag Flap #STEELERSSUPERBOWL51CHAMPS lol
@mrsain19
@mrsain19 7 жыл бұрын
shit wouldnt be too hard, all of them damn near still live in south Florida, Wade included.
5 жыл бұрын
@@mrsain19 doesnt lebron live in california now?
@mrsain19
@mrsain19 5 жыл бұрын
@ by point is the rest of the 2012 team is still in the south Florida area. The only one that isnt, is lebron.
@llw53one
@llw53one 4 жыл бұрын
The Celtics should have done better to keep Ray! They were disrespectful! I’m glad Ray was able to shine with The Heat and get a ring! I do hope the guys can work something out. Shaq and Koby are cool now these guys should work it out. The fact that Rondo questioned if he should invite Ray tells me that he knows Ray should be there! Thanks for sharing! Great visuals and commentary! Peace and Blessings to all!
@brandonmower9531
@brandonmower9531 5 жыл бұрын
Best shooting form I've ever seen
@1donmegaa
@1donmegaa 7 жыл бұрын
well said Dom i agree
@mbj920
@mbj920 6 жыл бұрын
I was the biggest celtics fan you could possibly imagine back then, I’d used to call them the Big 4 with Rondo included. It saddens me that they still hold a grudge for Ray, I’d love to see them all back together reunited on that trip for good times sake.
@DubleKrossXDSSD
@DubleKrossXDSSD 7 жыл бұрын
lmao, Rondo is acting like he was part of the big 3 😂😂 Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, and The Truth Pierce. That there is the real big three! hold this L rondo. get off your high horse and show some respect
@amieriddles
@amieriddles 7 жыл бұрын
Phi Tang Rondo was good af
@DubleKrossXDSSD
@DubleKrossXDSSD 7 жыл бұрын
Amie Riddles yeah I he was but his attitude did not justify his performance
@amieriddles
@amieriddles 7 жыл бұрын
*****​ Ikr if the dude wasnt such a hothead he could be a PG on a championship team again
@DubleKrossXDSSD
@DubleKrossXDSSD 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I can definitely agree with you on that!
@MrDiMES123
@MrDiMES123 7 жыл бұрын
Phi Tang rondo was big 4 in 2011
@elibelly9373
@elibelly9373 7 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!!$
@DoahandDucepodcast
@DoahandDucepodcast 7 жыл бұрын
Elitzur Gitler check out my nba podcast
@bryansandoval4320
@bryansandoval4320 7 жыл бұрын
Doah and Duce podcast would u stfu I've seen u all over the comment section
@copable
@copable 7 жыл бұрын
"WASSUP NBA FANS DOM2K ON THE MIC" I FW THAT INTRO
@14dfree
@14dfree 7 жыл бұрын
I can't watch the video... Because I keep playing the intro over and over lol :)
@jebronlames3947
@jebronlames3947 6 жыл бұрын
8:51 the way pierce looks at allen tho
@Michael-vf8sy
@Michael-vf8sy 3 жыл бұрын
I peeped that, looks like a hater honestly
@theodorehuxtable6001
@theodorehuxtable6001 6 жыл бұрын
That intro beat is hard.
@domais68
@domais68 7 жыл бұрын
Great clip, as usual, "Dom 2k!" It's ironic that KG, Perkins, Rondo, Davis, Pierce and Doc just discussed the Ray Allen rift in "Area 21" a few days ago. If I was fortunate enough to be in the Celtics' club, or NBA family, I wouldn't publicly discuss any dirty laundry. This whole issue could have been handled with less drama and more professionalism. Airing the matter on national TV serves no good purpose and just adds to strain and hurt feelings. Keep up the videos.
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