Hi Tim... Maybe change the nose cones and add a tail cone and decal kit to make an S.R.B kit for an Apogee Space shuttle. A few companies make shuttle kits but, everything stays together.. If you add a hook and strake to the "tank", the orbiter can detach and glide in. Imagine a shuttle with "g" motors!!! Love the vids.
@enriqueayala82525 жыл бұрын
Very elegant solution, I really like it! Very well done Tim, and thank you.
@tomgates3165 жыл бұрын
We used to fly a 3-tube first stage to mimic strap-on boosters. Have main rocket as single tube design and was the 2nd stage. First stage was 3-tubes. Larger center tube with with two longer side tubes that fit partway up the upper stage. Center motor was a booster like a B6-0 and the two sides were B6-3 engines. Booster lit the 2nd stage and separation happened. Few seconds later, the side engines would eject the chutes or streamers from the side tubes. Worked kind of neat. But these side boosters would have been cleaner and more fun. Also wouldn't require it to be 2-stage. Lots of fun new stuff. (compared to my flying in 60's and early 70's. :-)
@joshuaf48676 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim! I bought the kit!!! Thanks for the video.
@barthennin21697 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the design!! I wish there was a way to add pods that left the core rocket more streamlined upon separation...
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
Yes, that would be pretty neat. More like the real thing. We're constantly creating new items here and we also try to innovate on what we've already created. So maybe we'll figure out a way to make that particular function in the future. :-)
@BenjaminGottsch7 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to find a way to do this for a while. My first initial designs used a paper clip and launch lug, the booster wouldn't remain attached unless an engine was firing, I never tested it but got a few test models built before I moved to other project. I then designed one that ditched the paper clip and had a balsa fin hook, that also would only allow the booster to be attached when the motor was firing, but looked better, and would keep the motors on straight during flight. No models where ever built of flown of this design.
@kingkhankhan35404 жыл бұрын
Very nice sir
@sparxy1968 Жыл бұрын
I made a scratch-built rocket many years ago that had two strap-on boosters. I used a small aluminium pipe (roughly 4mm OD) that was fixed pointing out 90 degrees from the booster side and slid into the opposite pipe on the side of the main rocket tube. The boosters were sealed so no chutes but the hollow aluminium pipes did allow the ejection charge to escape through them so would push themselves out of the body of the main tube. The lower mount was just enough to hook the boosters as the aluminium top mounts were very secure. When they separated all that was left was a tiny metal hook as the sliding fit at the top was just a small hole. I tested it on the ground in a jig a lot until I got them to pop off just right with a C6-0. The ejection charge was just a sprinkle of BP. It hardly needed anything as there was no other way for the gases to escape. I think a full ejection motor would blow the strap on up. I am in the UK so it's hard to get a lot of HPR and even MPR stuff but I have managed to get hold of F15-0's and can easily get D12-0's as strap on boosters so I am tempted to make something similar again. I sometimes think about making small explosive "bolts". You can get tiny firecrackers in France that are about 3mm in diameter and 15mm long and could easily be used to fix boosters to the sides. If you used quick match, it might be possible to have them explode at burnout. They would probably be strong enough and the side of the rocket would only need protection from a small area of aluminium sheet. It might be fun to see if you can get the concept to work with A-size engines. It would look very cool if they popped and the booster fell away. The boosters did not need parachutes as they were so simple they just tumbled. I wasn't too worried about getting them back undamaged :-)
@khenricks17 жыл бұрын
Of the many different things I've seen folks come up with in this hobby........this is one of the coolest ones. Great item & glad you folks are offering it after the inventor went under. And Tim has a really good video of it & how it works.
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliments :-)
@f62darkstar4 жыл бұрын
looking at the hand drawn bands and rivets on the body tube...this looks like a very early rendering of the now "Flying Machine"
@jurgmike5 жыл бұрын
This is really cool. I always wanted to add some detachable boosters to a rocket. I wish the kit used 29mm tubes instead of 24mm ones so I could use a G80 with it, or if you guys sold the guide along with the hooks so I could just scrap together my own kit.
@apogeerockets5 жыл бұрын
You will find the hooks by themselves on our web site.
@ferkyderky3 жыл бұрын
that's a smart design
@stephenanderle54223 жыл бұрын
Reverse the way the hook up is working. A thicker ring inside the lower body tube and let the booster hook inside the body. The upper hook will slide down into the body. Then the ejection charge will slide the hook forward and release the booster . wind then rotates the booster out and away. A spring inside the body could push a plate out to smooth the body and fill the opening.
@stephenanderle54223 жыл бұрын
P.S. This also brings the booster in closer to the main stage. And as the booster rotates out the nose cone pulls out a chute for recovery of the booster.
@stephenanderle54223 жыл бұрын
P.S. This also brings the booster in closer to the main stage. And as the booster rotates out the nose cone pulls out a chute for recovery of the booster.
@apogeerockets3 жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@jtolliver7 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@grantwatson56655 жыл бұрын
Do you think if I were to use two of the biggest c motors in these, it will lift two d motors? That would be really neat if I could turn my two stage into a three.
@apogeerockets5 жыл бұрын
I suggest you run it through the RockSim simulation first. On our web site, you'll find the file under "The Flying Machine" kit. Use that to modify for your unique configuration.
@joshuaf48675 жыл бұрын
Any idea how much asymmetric thrust effect would cause that setup to fly sideways if one of the boosters fails to ignite? Would the fins be enough to keep it flying relatively straight up in that scenario?
@apogeerockets5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I do not have even a guess to your questions. It is a very difficult situation, which is why you should pay particular attention to making sure the motors all light at ignition.
@MrBill87062 жыл бұрын
Would the boosters add enough thrust to overcome the extra weight and surface area and send the rocket higher? Or is it mostly an ascetic thing? (They're really cool either way!)
@apogeerockets2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the specific rocket motor you put into the boosters.
@isaiahandnehemiahbond88019 ай бұрын
When you buy the flying machine, do you get the fins with the already jagged sides or are they flat?
@apogeerockets9 ай бұрын
If you visit our website, you'll see photos of everything that comes with the rocket kit. www.apogeerockets.com/Rocket-Kits/Skill-Level-4-Model-Rocket-Kits/Flying-Machine
@kingkhankhan35404 жыл бұрын
Super
@patchleeh50362 жыл бұрын
I want to try this kit, my one question is are you using wadding in the boosters? Would a baffle work ok?
@apogeerockets2 жыл бұрын
You can use whatever you want for recovery device protection. go for it!
@Jamesardo1363 жыл бұрын
I made my own strap on boosters and It works by inserting a flat rectangle into the pod and making a small box frame made in between the pod and the core stage, so it's only open when it's separated from the core. When the recovery charge happens, it pushes off the rectangle, and exposes the parachute hidden inside the small box.
@apogeerockets3 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting. You should send us some pictures.
@Jamesardo1363 жыл бұрын
Wow. That was quick
@isaiahandnehemiahbond88019 ай бұрын
What is the name of the rocket that you are strapping on the pods to
@apogeerockets9 ай бұрын
That was the prototype for the Flying Machine. www.apogeerockets.com/Rocket-Kits/Skill-Level-4-Model-Rocket-Kits/Flying-Machine
@swastikpadhy12382 жыл бұрын
Hey can you make a detailed video on parachute ejection?
@apogeerockets2 жыл бұрын
What do you want to see?
@swastikpadhy12382 жыл бұрын
@@apogeerockets I wanted to see how to release a parachute at apogee in a model rocket,as I am a beginner.
@kc2tbag2 жыл бұрын
What is the main rocket in your demo?
@apogeerockets2 жыл бұрын
That was the early prototype of a rocket that we now call "The Flying Machine." You'll find it at: www.apogeerockets.com/Rocket-Kits/Skill-Level-4-Model-Rocket-Kits/Flying-Machine
@michaelcerkez38952 жыл бұрын
Question. What if one booster burns out before the other. Will the rocket go off course?
@apogeerockets2 жыл бұрын
Totally possible. That is what Newton's law says anyway.
@96vmax411 ай бұрын
You made mention in a different comment I made that you can run these pods with 24mm d engines. I assume that means don't install the 18mm motor mounts and just sing the d engines into the booster and just use the centering ring to index the engine depth?
@apogeerockets11 ай бұрын
There are options. You can swap out the 18mm mounts with a 24mm mount. Or you can simply use a 18mm diameter Quest or Aerotech D motor.
@96vmax411 ай бұрын
@@apogeerockets awesome, thank you.
@isaiahandnehemiahbond88019 ай бұрын
Did you fly the rocket in this video with just three fins?
@apogeerockets9 ай бұрын
Sure. See the website for the FAQ's for how to use three fins and two pods. www.apogeerockets.com/Rocket-Kits/Skill-Level-2-Model-Rocket-Kits/Strap-on-Booster-Pods#faqs
@stevesrocketryworkshop37637 жыл бұрын
I see that these are blue and white. the ones on the website are red and white. can I get them in blue. I am scratch building a rocket called Blue Dragon and the final component I need is the strap on boosters. the core vehicle is blue and white and I want the booster pods to match.
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, we are all out of the blue. We had just the ones left for the test model in this video. Our apologies for the confusion.
@SkittlesScott7 жыл бұрын
Nice
@coolcrazyfox39364 жыл бұрын
hi can you tell me how to make the main rocke tignite after the booster?
@apogeerockets4 жыл бұрын
You would need to use electronics in the main tube to ignite the motor. On our website, look up "Simple Timer."
@coolcrazyfox39364 жыл бұрын
thank you i subscribed
@paulsmyers2033 жыл бұрын
What's the most strap-on boosters pods you've ever seen someone put onto a core vehicle? With the core vehicle diameter and pod diameter with your example rocket, it looks like you could put as many as 8 pods on it, and still have room for fins to fit between them. More power! :D
@apogeerockets3 жыл бұрын
Let's have a contest. Put as many on the rocket and have a successful launch with them. We'd love to see what you come up with.
@themadscientest2 жыл бұрын
your only limit would be physical strength and the propellant limit to be considered a class 1 rocket.
@SteveStokes19717 жыл бұрын
What is the rocket kit you are using in the video?
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
It's a new kit that's in development. Our goal is to have it out this year but I don't have a specific time frame just yet. We have the boosters pods for sale already though. Just not the full kit. The booster pods are available here: www.apogeerockets.com/Rocket-Kits/Skill-Level-2-Model-Rocket-Kits/Strap-on-Booster-Pods?zenid=4986nqi4n22a00n0aseetikal6 As far as the kit goes I would recommend checking the new products carousel at the bottom of our webpage or if you like us on Facebook we post images of new products every Friday so you will see it there too when it's ready.
@SteveStokes19717 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. I already have the booster kit. Was just looking for a rocket to go with them and thought that one looked nice. May end up doing a scratch build.
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
No problem, well feel free to let us show what you make on Facebook. We love to see rocketeer designs and I'll try and follow up here when the kit is officially available.
@dunkelschaf46362 жыл бұрын
hello, how thick, wide and Long is the wooden strip that is attached to the booster rocket?
@apogeerockets2 жыл бұрын
You can purchase the parts and then make measurements at: www.apogeerockets.com/Rocket-Kits/Skill-Level-2-Model-Rocket-Kits/Strap-on-Booster-Pods
@dunkelschaf46362 жыл бұрын
@@apogeerockets i want to Buy them but i Need the sizes before. I Need to knew if it fits in my actual project
@apogeerockets2 жыл бұрын
@@dunkelschaf4636 In that case, they probably won't fit.
@dunkelschaf46362 жыл бұрын
@@apogeerockets what kind of answer is that? As a prospective buyer, I ask a question and get a stupid answer. what kind of competence should that be? but it's okay .. i'm looking elsewhere. Thank you 🤦♂️
@SkittlesScott7 жыл бұрын
why is the rocket missing a fin?
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
Tim removed the fin so that you could see the parts better in the video.
@Minskpotato3 жыл бұрын
Apogee Components that's so nice of Tim
@Minskpotato3 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that Sergei Korolev watched this before designing the r7.
@scienceium52333 жыл бұрын
Legend says that Tim is Sergei korolev himself
@bombsgamer6 жыл бұрын
Well I made some boosters for mine and it’s just tape, there’s 4 boosters and 1 main but it hasn’t been tested yet but will soon
@apogeerockets6 жыл бұрын
I wish you well with your test.
@bombsgamer6 жыл бұрын
Thx
@keekee2507 жыл бұрын
what categorie are they in
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
They are in the Skill Leve 2 Kit section, as well as the Multi-stage rocket kits section. The direct link is: www.apogeerockets.com/Rocket-Kits/Skill-Level-2-Model-Rocket-Kits/Strap-on-Booster-Pods
@keekee2507 жыл бұрын
Thank you I'll be sure to purchase
@ultimatevisionstudios67167 жыл бұрын
where can I buy one?
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
The Strap-on Booster pods are available on our website here: www.apogeerockets.com/Rocket-Kits/Skill-Level-2-Model-Rocket-Kits/Strap-on-Booster-Pods
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
The rocket they are attached to is currently up to you, we are working on that rocket design specifically to include the pods but it is unlikely we will have it ready soon.
@ultimatevisionstudios67167 жыл бұрын
thanks. by the way great video.
@apogeerockets7 жыл бұрын
No problem, thanks for watching. :-)
@christinamckee6725 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Flying Machine :-)
@tsstudios2163 жыл бұрын
Omg
@friarrodneyburnap43366 жыл бұрын
I think it's time for a Professional Competition Sport Racketeer and paid Competition. ..so now we need sponsors...
@friarrodneyburnap43366 жыл бұрын
Can you make a living flying Sport Rockets
@apogeerockets6 жыл бұрын
I suppose if you got a job in the marketing department of a rocketry company, you probably could.
@fairwitness2656 жыл бұрын
Here is a slightly different design for larger rockets: www.rocketryforum.com/showthread.php?41657-Parallel-Staging-Motor-choices-and-designs&p=476655#post476655
@apogeerockets6 жыл бұрын
Impressive design!
@fairwitness2656 жыл бұрын
I like your approach also. At first glance I was concerned that a booster might not come off immediately when it is supposed to. But after further thought, it seems likely that some of the ejection gas would exit through the upper slot as the nose is coming off and would push the booster away from the rocket.