sorry for that little error at 3:49 lol

Maturing is realizing that Zac and Cody’s mom was a poor single women trying her best to keep her head above the water. Yea it was a nice hotel but they were still so poor that they had to stay there in order to survive. They shared a one room suite and she slept on the pull out sofa. It really made me feel good about myself and how I grew up. That show was so ahead of its time dude.

It's just so weird to me that the movie is such a dramatically different tone from the show. Like the movie introduces so many fantastical elements when the main show is (mostly) grounded in reality

Yeah they got zack all wrong, zack isn’t actually stupid when you watch the show (more so the first suite life) you realise zack just doesn’t apply himself academically because he is lazy, but he actually is quite intelligent

It’s actually hilarious because this would have DEFINITELY made for a banger Lab Rats movie 💀😭

24:40 I think making Cody not get into his dream university despite his intellect is a great decision on the writers' part. It's a very realistic struggle that gifted kids have to deal with at one point in life-failing and realizing that they're not going to be the smartest person in the room forever, especially if they don't have the right work ethics and soft skills. It's also a good lesson to every kid in general that sometimes life just doesn't go your way, and things won't always go according to plan. You might not get into that one university you want despite working hard on it, and that's okay. There's always other paths you can follow. I also feel it's a very fitting end for his character. The rest of the video I mostly agree with, and find very entertaining. I love it when people talk about this series, and I think you did a great job.

The fact that Cody didn’t get into his dream school was a decision done because they wanted to make another spin off show but took an idea the twins pitched and wouldn’t give them producer rights so they walked

As a kid, the one thing I easily hated most about this movie is how it treated Bailey. Sure, she's a dumb teenager like the rest of the cast, so it's not unheard of for her to get upset her boyfriend is taking off without her during spring break. HOWEVER Cody was taking a program that could give him so many opportunities after high school. In fact, it's out of character for Bailey to not want in on it upon hearing about it, since she's also a brainy know-it-all like Cody. Even worse is that they reduce her to the cliche "I'm mad at my SO so I'm gonna ghost them and let my anger fester to the point I take it out on other couples" trope the rest of the movie.

It surprises me how That's So Raven never got a movie. I know Raven was in Zenon and the first 2 Cheetah Girls and even had her own Disney produced theatrical movie, but I'm really shocked her show never had a movie or even a proper finale. I'm glad she has a spin-off, but That's So Raven was massive and was the longest running show before Wizards of Waverly Place. It's just weird how she was the face of the network for a while and her show was just over.

The Olsen twins actually were mentors for the boys their branding was based off the Olsen twins they just rebranded it for boys and taught the sprouse team how to do it

"London has super powers now." I guess it was destiny for Brenda Song to always be gifted in Disney shows, no matter the medium. She has martial arts powers as Wendy Wu and she has Super Saiyan God-like powers as Anne Boonchuy. XD

I actually loved the movie's tone and story, if only because it brought back something that had been missing during the last season of the Suite Life and that was Zack and Cody's bond, because in the earlier seasons they clearly cared about each other above everything else. Suite Life on Deck, I felt like they hated, genuinely hated each other, which just didn't vibe with me. The movie fixed that bond and to me if this was how they ended the series, it would've been a cool ending to me.

I actually warmed up to the suite life finale after actually graduating high school. I think they were trying to end it somewhat realistically rather than make everyone live happily ever after. The way it ends shows had more living ahead of them and that the characters' struggles don't end with the show. I still hate the movie though but I do like how it attempted to deconstruct and wrap up the rivalry between the characters (even if it was completely botched through the movies misunderstanding of the characters themselves)

I forgot about half the stuff Cody did in On Deck but its so bad??? I don't know what happened in between dating Barbara and Bailey but he got darksided

I never watched this movie, but I do remember the commercials for it, and one thing that motivated me to NOT watch it was how dull the colors looked; in Suite Life everything looked a bit more bright and fun, I understand it was most probably the saturation turned up a bit in post production, but was just something lacking in the movie and I never understood why

When I heard that there was a Suite Life on Deck movie, I did not expect it to be about a mad scientist and illegal cloning

I think they wanted to make the ending to the series more open ended because they were originally gonna bring the show back but the sprouse twins fell out with Disney channel so it never came about. That’s why the movie was meant to basically be a character journey between Zack and Cody. They didn’t really develop the characters despite the tone shift and instead did what a normal episode of the show would do but at an extended time period. We also have to take into account that season 2 and 3 of suite life on deck leaned very sci-fi James Bond-type episodes. Most of them not even being dreams. As the show became more of a Disney XD show, they went harder with generic boy stuff. I don’t think this tainted the ending of suite life because most people did like the actual finale as it took the show back to its simple and humble beginnings, it was so good, many people just flat out forgot the movie existed.

You know, the funniest thing for me is that I don't think it ruined the Suite Life legacy, because its usually forgotten or just not brought up, also I think this movie attempted to have what I think the series was lacking, at least in terms of what some fans wanted, twin bonding, because in the show it was weird if we got some fluff between those two, they just took it way too far and in a very different direction, I think a better outcome to the movie and therefore the show wouldve been have this movie be about Zack being lost in life and without knowing what to do now that school's almost over, Cody helping him figure that out, having Cody not getting into Yale (which I think its a good choice, since as someone said this often happen with gifted kids), him experiencing failure for the first time at such a big scale, and Zack helping him realize that it's not the end of the world, he has a bright future and there are other universities that would gladly take him, that's the movie, so by the end of the show they can announce that Idk he got into Columbia or Brown or something like that, and Zack idk maybe start doing something with his forgotten but existent carpintery skills?

As a child I was very confused on the show getting a movie cuz personally there was no need and then the movie was not the same vibe as the show

I think the main problem with this movie is that it just can’t stand on its own two legs, it’s trying to telll a story inside a story that was already going on, instead what they should have done is tell us a story that happened after graduation, like what did Cody do after not getting into college, what about bailey’s life in college, does she get a roommate that’s like Maddie and a rival like London? Does Zack end up with a job at the hotel, what if the twins both ended up working there? What’s the conflict? What are the motives there, what about a High School Reunion? How does that happen? You SEE The possibilities here? Missed opportunities here, but hey I still like the concept of the film but I just wish it was it’s own thing and not a tie in with the season, that way there is proper motives and feelings. And I also wish the actual show runners had made the movie.

They should’ve had Maddie make a come back for at least one scene

I remember watching this movie as a kid and immediately deciding it wasn't canon without even knowing the word canon yet

Ok but did y’all hear they wanted to end the show by having them return to the hotel and raise a new generation of kids to essentially make “The Suite Life” of another generation? They wanted to step away from acting but they wanted all the crew they had worked with to be able to keep their jobs! But Disney wouldn’t allow it…

i rewatched the movie recently and yeah, it is so bad. i loved it as a kid because i have a twin sister, but we're fraternal twins and do not look alike. idk, twin media was everything to me (i loved twitches, gravity falls, the parent trap, literally anything with twins)

Super late to this video but one interesting thing to add: you mentioned a few times how it’s like the writers has never seen the show and I think that was common for Disney at the time cuz on the wizards of waverly place pod they’ve talked about how the original script for the wizards movie was completely wrong and made almost no sense for a lot of the characters because, according to them, the DCOM writers were completely separate and the creator of wizards had to go in and rewrite a bunch of the script to make it make sense.

I loved the suite life franchise as a kid so I remember being excited about the movie lol. But the vibes of the movie always felt so disconnected from the actual show that I basically didn't even consider it a part of the actual suite life storyline.

I remember watching this movie during my junior year of high school when I was seventeen with my best friend, Ryan, at the time (We started going out that very summer and still are a couple to this day.) I remember watching that whole merging twin plot and the part where Zack and Cody got chased by all of the other twins and was like towards Ryan, "Since when did this show become a horror movie?!" XD Ryan wasn't into Disney Channel like I was but he was very good at watching those things with me unless it was Cinderella or the High School Musical movies. Yet years have passed and he wants to give them a go now especially since he wants to be a film critic someday and watch almost all kinds of films. It's what I love about him! EEP! :)

So, this is just me spitballing here: If I were to make a Suite Life movie, I would go the Die Hard route: the kids, after graduation, return to the hotel for a giant celebration. Bring everyone back, from Maddie, to Carey, Esteban, Arwin, Agnes, and everyone's favorite character, Bob. When suddenly, uh-oh! Home Alone 3 style robbers arrive and take the Tipton Hostage, forcing Zack and Cody to be a two-man John McClain and put their ever growing rivalry aside to stop the bad guys and save the day. Is it a good idea? No. But at least it would have the slightest spirit of the original show, and wouldn't have a superpower to be seen.

If there's one thing this movie did right, it was recognizing Matthew Timmons (aka Woody) as a main character instead of a supporting character. I say this because he had been apart of Suite Life On Deck since day one and way never introduced in the intro but rather the end of every episode. For some reason that always upset me, especially when Doc Shaw was added to the intro for the final season.

The car never made sense. Also why give them the car when they’re back on the cruise 😂

21:52 ...or a Gravity Falls episode since it's an actual fantastical Disney show about twins. Yeah, I didn't love the movie. It was barely funny, flanderized most of the characters and it veered way too much into its' supernatural concept. To be fair, On Deck has been doing that since the second season literally starting with a spy episode. Or arguably, The International Dateline from season 1. I've been a fan of The Suite Life Saga (that's what I call the franchise) and they deserved better than this. Here's how I would've made a Suite Life Movie: a heist movie. The SS Tipton stops at a location that we haven't seen go to. Egypt or wherever. Through the franchise's typical highjinks, Zack and Cody fight over a never before seen treasure 🪙 through hilarious dumb luck and they take it with them. But this causes a rift between them that might just be what ends their relationship for good. Forcing London, Bailey, Woody, Maya and Addison to take sides. But when an evil Indiana Jones type character finds out about it, he or she or they hold the ship hostage and steals it to take over the world or something. So the kids and Mr Moseby (and maybe Ms. Tutweiler) have to team up to steal it back from their secret lair. Using what they learned from the six years they spent together to fool the villain and take back the treasure, because nostalgia. Throughout the adventure, the cast try to convince Zack and Cody to forgive each other and slowly but surely, they do. They win the day by the characters doing something crazy like crashing a helicopter into the villain's lair and they get the treasure back but not before an epic fight scene. The villain is defeated, Cody and Bailey kiss, Zack and Maya kiss, Woody and Addison kiss and London acts as though she's kissing herself all at the same time. And they use the treasure to fix the SS Tipton's damages as opposed to whatever Zack and Cody want. It's less ridiculous than the plot of this movie, but just ridiculous enough to feel like a longer Suite Life episode, all of the characters have something to do and the twins' relationship can still be strained with the characters having more of a say in what happens in the movie. I have another pitch for how I'd bring back The Suite Life Saga but this comment is long enough as it is.

I always said that if someone didn't talk about the Suite Life Movie, I would do it myself somedat... but I'm glad I don't have to now because this was a BANGER. I always had a soft spot for the movie but then I always hated the series finale of Suite Life On Deck because I thought that it was rushed and just not satisfying. I never knew the reason as to why the show ended the way it did... until now, and it makes perfect sense. If the show did create a movie that was consistent with the plot of the show and more so just a slice of life movie where Zack goes through character development, the ending would've probably been the best the channel has ever had. It's unfortunate, as the brothers worked for Disney for such a long time, but I'm glad they've moved onto greater things.

Aside from the tone, I was always disappointed that this didn’t have any connection to the OG Suite Life series- not bringing in the old characters for the BIG suite life movie

fun fact! i was absolutely terrified of the mind controlled twins in this movie as a child. like, recurring nightmares for YEARS terrified

So the Gemini Project takes two identical people and makes them the same person…almost like a clone? Suite Life on Deck a Gemini Man Prequel Confirmed?

I really the movie for the most part. It’s not canon & I think of it as a crazy dream Zack had.

Not getting into Yale doesn't mean he doesn't get into college. He no doubt was accepted by several backup schools

I actually liked the movie as a kid because it scared the shit out of me. Who would think zack and cody would be scary. Idk i thought it was cool and interesting and was genuinely scared for the characters lives. But i was also a kid when i last watch it

There were also a lot of continuity problems with Hannah Montana the Movie as well. Jackson graduates and goes off to college in the movie, but after the movie airs he is still in high school on the show. Even if you argued the movie aired out of order from the show, in the episode Lilly and Oliver become a couple, Jackson is interviewing for college. Yet in the movie, Lilly talks about wanting to date a cowboy and is seen with one at the very end. The issue with Hannah Montana the Movie is that it was filmed before they even began filming the third season, so there were plot points introduced in the third season that were not even conceived when making the movie. Also, the writers for the show were not involved with the production of the movie, so they didn't know of any of the plot points until midway through the production of season 3. However we don't know when exactly the third season of the Suite Life on Deck or its movie were filmed, but it could be a similar situation.

i also think they didn’t want any of the writers from the show on the movie so that way both could be in production at the same time and crank out product as fast as possible

5:55 The intro song to this movie is literally my favorite part of it. I have vivid memories of replaying that beginning sequence over and over again to dance to the song and recreate some of Cody's movements.

I actually liked the movie but I always kept it separate from the show so I guess in my head it wasn't Canon so it didn't bother me with Zach being different I did go back to the show and movie when I was older and definitely saw the flaws but if you try to see it separate it's not a terrible disney channel movie.

I really didn’t like how they dumbed down Zack in the movie

Dude I was obsessed with both suite life shows as a kid but I watched this movie once and completely wiped it out of my memory it must have bad enough for even my kid brain to want it gone

Ok...... As much as I LOVE The Suite Life franchise once I saw ADs for this movie. I vividly remember saying to myself that I had no interest in watching this movie. And after I heard you explain the pilot of the movie, I am so glad that made that choice.

Is anyone else learning for the first time that Cody did not get into college! I had completely lost interest in Disney Channel by the time suite life ended so I didn't watch the finale and this is the first I am hearing about this.

I don't think the movie ruined anything for me because I completely forgot about this movie until you brought it up again. But I still have a lot of nostalgia for the suite life series

if i remember correctly, we've actually seen the car from at the end of the movie at some point during the show. Maybe on the episode when both parents are on the ship singing a duet, but its hard to tell, haven't watched the show or movie in years

Oh I absolutely never considered this canon. Never even crossed my mind. I think that was the right approach

I dunno, I remember enjoying the movie. I probably wouldn't feel the same if I revisited it but I'm happy to keep the memory positive. I think it might be that it aired around the time that I started getting more into Disney Channel than I had been.

I remember thinking that submarine scene look soooo bad at the time it aired that I changed the channel. That and I also didn't care for Bailey. But nothing beats how bad the Wizards if Waverly place movie looked, I was SO mad at how horrible the wizard battle looked.

even as a kid, i liked Suite Life on Deck fine enough but i didn't like it nearly as much as the original Suite Life series (though i still always preferred seasons of Zack and Cody 1 and 2 and felt like there was a sharp dip in quality in season 3). Zack and Cody felt, oddly enough, more grounded than On Deck, and so it could rely more on actually good writing and characters. On Deck felt like the showrunners saying "wow we got some CGI budget and a green screen let's go fucking NUTS." and even _still_ the movie was absolutely the worst part. i didn't really like it as a kid, it was too conceptually confused and annoying.

It always felt like a meh movie. Totally love this video!

I’m these two turned out alright because their parents didn’t exploit them

*Reads the title* “There was a Z&C movie?” *Watches the first minute of the movie* “Ohhh… Right. THAT movie… There was probably a reason why my brain stored that away where I could never remember it…”

2:00 can’t say much about the others but I can agree on this statement when it comes to the Wizards movie and Phineas and Ferb

When I first saw this movie I didn't even realize that it was weird. I didn't connect it to the show I just watched it without the shows events. By itself I thought it was good, but it is sad that they didn't give much thought to the show or the long term effects of the movie.

Vandalism would be the very least concern amidst the fraud, reckless endangerment, theft, property damage, ecological damage, and the people who lose their jobs that were in charge of protocols who will also be filing lawsuits.

Wait as second, I didn't realize it until the twin experiment thing but this is the only Zack and Cody thing I've ever seen because where I lived the network bought it and aired it as if it was it's own product and not a part of a larger franchise and I watched it at like midnight while half-asleep.

I’m glad you made this video. I seriously this movie was just a very vivid dream I had as a kid because it seem to be too science fiction for the show.

In my opinion they should have done a movie before The Suite Life on Deck to keep the essence of the og series and then make a transition to the series on deck...this movie was good and weird at the same time.

After watching the Wizards of Waverly Pod it makes sense that the story and characters dont match the show. David DeLuise (Jerry Russo) said that there are different teams for the Disney Channel and for the DCOMs.

Marcus came in during season 2. I wonder if they wrote this during season 1 and just shelved it until the show was cancelled.

It's clear that with so many plot changes, differences in how the characters act compared to the TV series, and overall sci-fi fantasy that this movie is non-canon to the show.

for about 3 years that opening song for the movie was stuck in my head and now its back

the franchise was killed off so disrespectfully. and learning about how disney laughed in the faces of the boys when they pitched a spinoff to suite life is so wack and dissapointing

you know, it's weird.. i explicitly remember not having seen this movie.. but when you explained the plot-beats i suddenly remember everything

Never really thought that much of the film, so I’m curious about this particular take.

movies like this usually arent cannon..

I find it intersting that Suite Lifes series is only shown on Disney Channel that is considered for boys at the time.

omg i love your nostalgic instrumental choices..good taste!

11:20 Actually that timeline makes sense to me. Prom usually takes place in May, and spring break usually takes place in March. But I haven’t watched any of the Suite Life on Deck since it originally aired, so I don’t remember how long Zack was supposed to be dating Maya before prom. Since he was so in love with Maya, I would assume they were together for longer than two months, but this is Disney and love does tend to happen pretty quickly with them.

I watched the intro with the R5 scene and not the rest cause busy but the nick cn disney channel rant community hated it so Im glad to see a video on this years after that era

This movie is offensive to twins

You’ve mentioned Zeke & Luther in 2/2 of your videos I’ve watched. When’s their video dropping?

". . . or a season 9 episode of Family Matters." I felt that on a *spiritual* level.

If it’s supposed to be spring break, how is it after Prom? Who has their Prom in March?

I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF THAT DRAKE N JOSH SCENE TOO! 😂

The real question - what are the logistics of having a functioning high school on a cruise ship? And how did Carey afford it with her employee discount? She’s a lounge singer

I don't remember the finale😭😭 All i remember is the graduation part. and londons scene. I haven't seen the show since 2011😭 Oh i miss the memories when new episodes would come out.

Hmm… I believe the movie was timelined between s2 and 3 of “On deck”. Which is also weird considering Cody and Bailey’s break up at the end of s2, but still it would’ve explain why Maya wasn’t in the movie and why Zack acts as if he’s single. The car part is really strange, yeah.

I remember when The Suite Life movie came out. But I didn't watch it. I did see a few episodes of The Suite Life on Deck. However, I wasn't watching Disney as much by then. The movie itself doesn't seem like it had much to do with the series. I did watch the series finale of The Suite Life on Deck where Zack and Maya break up before graduation. Moseby got to retire young and marry Ms. Tuttweiler. Their mother was also engaged to Arwin.

Zack and Maya broke up at the graduation episode

Ehhh. That’s so Raven is one of the best shows on Disney and did not get a movie.

The tv show had ran on long enough to have a sequel tv show, so a movie was inevitable I guess, but really a greater premise for the movie would have been a return to the Tipton hotel of the original show and having the hijinks of the ship go on there one last time. Instead they went in for the magical elements of being twins as doubled down, and it seems like it really is separate and more magical than anything we actually saw on Sweet Life on Deck.

You should talk about the wizards of waverly place movie that ended up not mattering and all to the show because they changed their mind and retconned the whole thing in the next season

"the one where the kids try to murder Mr Mosby" 😂😂😂

I keep watching your videos and forget that you don’t have a million subscribers. Keep it up with the freaking great content!

I specifically remember Zack & Cody advertising Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver.

This movie scarred me for being a twin but then I remembered being a m-f set of twins that science doesn’t care about us enough to do this sort of shit with 🙃

This movie should have taken place before Zack and Cody ever got on the boat?

I feel like live action kids shows aren't so popular anymore. At least not compared to animated kids shows. They used to be so popular, that they got their own movie, theatrical or made for TV. The last of these being Big Time Movie from 2012, 10 years ago!!! Kyle Norty did a pretty good review of the movie from someone who barely watched the show. As well as this movie and the latter third DCOM I'm about to mention. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iK5_nL2hy5PUhmw.html kzfaq.info/sun/PLDdYXCLMNKAGnbKpPO7CM1kRy0Jqc7IGz Funny thing was, The Suite Life Movie was the first of three DCOMs based on Disney Channel shows that came out in 2011: this, Phineas and Ferb Across the 2nd Dimension and Good Luck Charlie It's Christmas. I've heard from people my age that they still watch Nick and Disney Channel but only for the animated shows. I mean, I get it. Most of the current live action shows from either Disney or Nick have either been mediocre or just plain bad. But as far as recent live action kids shows that are worth looking at: Sydney to the Max, Secrets of Sulphur Springs, The Villains of Valley View and Ultra Violet and Black Scorpion from Disney Channel and Drama Club, The Astronauts, Side Hustle and Warped from Nickelodeon. I'm in my 20s and I enjoy all of them. Here's my full playlist for reviews of live action kids shows that anyone outside the target audience would like! kzfaq.info/sun/PLDdYXCLMNKAGyz34_0lLrUGxHKjL6L9jy

4:39 What's Woody doing with an accordion?? I can't believe I missed that

This channel… is underrated! Keep up the great work!

They should made a movie focused on the reality counity in the series like Good luck Charlie did least it continues the plot and had an effect however the suit life movie had no effect on the actual plot that it was so bad it all feels out of place like the storyline could had focused on much more like the twins bonding.

16:12 Technically they did consent to the experiment by being part of the study. By my understanding, in experiments involving human beings, the researchers can keep some aspects of the study a secret as long as the lack of knowledge isn’t going to be harmful to the subjects. And I’m guessing the scientist kept the hypothesis about the fruit a secret to make sure what the twins were experiencing was genuine and not some sort of placebo effect.

Remember watching this movie with my mom when I was in 3rd grade while we where at Disney. As well as lemonade mouth. Literally when the clones where talking my mom said Zach and Cody suck 😂 which would have made the movie better because even 3rd grade me was thinking that this was kinda weird for Zach and Cody. Not including the haunted suite episode

they deserved a proper ending and the sprouse twins idea of said ending sounded so cool, i'm genuinely upset it didn't happen. i am glad they got to spend their time being relatively normal college kids instead though.

12:02 the scientists “odd” reaction to Cody’s question is actually a pretty clever reference to NASA’s funded dolphin research in the 1960’s (They attempted to telepathically communicate to dolphins through LSD and sexual pleasure.)

you’re going straight to the fiery pits for the Super Why cameo 😂