It's not always practical or possible to go through all the text book steps when having to check or degree a camshaft. Here's a simple 10 minute method that you can use anytime and get repeatable, accurate results.
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@LunarOutlawsGarage4 жыл бұрын
This was by far the most amazing thing I learned when I was down there. Brilliant
@electrix67514 жыл бұрын
I've done it using the degree wheel and dial indicator method. But this is a lot simpler!
@LunarOutlawsGarage4 жыл бұрын
Electrix and very quick
@loganpe4274 жыл бұрын
I've heard about this method but never met anyone who could actually do it, thanks _UT_ a great tip for another old wrench to have in the mental tool box! 😁👍🇺🇸
@causwayspeedway4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in my brain box also saved video!!
@UnityMotorSportsGarage4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, This is what I love about Uncle Tony!! Old school ways being past down the younger generation!!! The best part is he gives credit where it's due! Keith Black a true master mind!!! Tony you rock...when this virus stuff is over I want to hit the track with you and I will bring Casper!
@matthewb70494 жыл бұрын
@@kennshotts7258 yeah. You gotta be a computer scientist nowadays to work on cars.
@lskiller19034 жыл бұрын
@@kennshotts7258 That's exactly the same thing my Great Great Great Grand Pappy, said in 1932 when Henry Ford came out with the flathead V8. And just look at how much fun everybody had with the ultra modern stuff in the 50's, you know mechanical fuel injection, overhead valves, automatic transmissions in hot rods can you believe that! And then the kids turned their backs on the four cylinder hot rod builds, for all that new junk! Those poor kids back then forced into the modern hot rod scene of the 50's.
@donh54gmail4 жыл бұрын
Been playing with engines for nearly 50 years, and I still learn stuff from UT almost every video they upload! Keep it up UT & UK. All the best from Queensland Australia!
@peacfulseas4 жыл бұрын
Yup. That is a 1st for this old fossil too.
@loganpe4274 жыл бұрын
Same here, we all know things valuable to pass on. I can't stand idiots who don't appreciate the other guys skill and share freely! Great hearing from our cousins from down under 😁👍!
@samjohnson40144 жыл бұрын
Don Hansford yeh mate I’m only a 20 year tradesman but I’m the same. Love Tony’s vids. Hi from New South Wales
@richdetlaff-598310 ай бұрын
Uncle Tony eats lives and breathe this stuff....he is yoda
@jamesmartin-lb6br4 жыл бұрын
You know it's solid gold when Keith Black came up with it. Keep it rolling UTG!
@mikefedele45214 жыл бұрын
It has been a long time since I've seen that done. An old family friend showed me how to do that when I was around 10 or so. I've used it myself people think I'm nuts you use what you know. When you did it on the live stream I had a grin on my face... It took me back to Sam and sons outside the side bay door monkeying around like he always did. A very pleasant memory in my world seems like a like a lifetime ago. Thanks for the re do. I enjoyed it.
@doubleaaaron4 жыл бұрын
My brother use to do it this way. When I was younger I thought he was crazy, but he always had good running engines. I live the old school basic ways. They work well. Good stuff Tony.
@NjJfjr Жыл бұрын
I was taught by Old School @VALAITIS MOTOR SERV SOUTH PHILADELPHIA PA & YES ALFRED J VALAITIS WAS MY MENTOR , BOBBY NEWMAN' NEWMAN'S AUTO SERVICE TOO! There are a few others I will dedicate at another time. Keep up the good work. I've destroyed at least 3 slants in my time starting out & My dad did the same except all mine had pistons sent to outer space OUT DOING MY DAD ! 😂 Nj'sJfJr 👍🏼💪🏼❤️🇺🇸 💥 BADA BING BADA BOOM 💥 I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE 🙌
@johnholtz12053 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say this is the best wrenching channel in KZfaq history. My man has more knowledge then anyone I’ve seen.
@1961kickboxer4 жыл бұрын
Your video on ignition timing was cool thanks uncle tony.
@1962pjb4 жыл бұрын
Keith Black. The man, the myth, the legend! 👍
@donschneider60534 жыл бұрын
I had heard of this method years ago but you are the first to actually show it being done thank you slot
@ericheine24144 жыл бұрын
That was great. I've never degreed a camshaft in using a wheel. But I always build the same motor. The 375 horse Chevy 350 with hydraulic cam. I always use a new true roller timing chain and the new Woodruff key. Great video, short, sweet, and informative. thank you
@michaelpeterson43484 жыл бұрын
You’re lazy too !
@wingrider10044 ай бұрын
I'd buy Tony a house next to mine just to have him next door for my restoration build...LOL
@rtkl134 жыл бұрын
Hell yes man...I bet there is quite a few gearheads that never knew this trick. I sure didn't, always learn something no matter how long you've been doing it
@InuranusBrokoff4 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for KZfaq gold like this...
@user-xw4hn7lb3x7 ай бұрын
You can also buy a dial tool that screws into the spark plug hole for TDC. Very accurate and cheap too. With this tool and the straight edge ruler and feeler gauge for cam setting, this is more accurate than the degree wheel method because with the degree wheel, you can only 'eyeball' it.
@garymitchell68972 ай бұрын
Was taught that about 55 years ago when I was an apprentice mechanic. Gets you with in a degree or two.nice to see .
@MS-ts4db3 жыл бұрын
Can't beat Uncle Tony with a stick! Its not practice makes perfect, its perfect practice makes perfect...because you can be doing something wrong for 40yrs and never get it right. UT, someone taught you right the first time, and we are the lucky ones you are sharing this knowledge with. Eternally humble. TY :)
@ohm19454 жыл бұрын
Simplicity. Logical no nonsense Uncle Tony methodology. Thanks a ton.
@ramoncasillas44904 жыл бұрын
Weeeew!!! Great video tony!! I tried my best to keep up and absorb the most info I could. Your the man. A complete mechanic You have probably forgotten more info than most people know. Thank for doing what you do.
@toddmccarter454 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing a detailed explanation on this, I watched it live and wasn't really following what was going on. And now I have a great reference to go straight back to. As usual, thanks for another great video.
@davidmoore94824 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony all ways has the best way of explaining things Gold Mine of knowledge thanks UTG
@TheCanadianBubba4 жыл бұрын
Great tip about preloading the cam in the direction of rotation, great days to you Tony !
@fourfortydemon4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that Tony , I asked Uncle Kathy for this and you guys delivered !!!
@Billhatestheinternet2 жыл бұрын
This is the most "Barney Style" explanation or method I have ever seen. I actually get how to do this now.
@allenlarabie88544 жыл бұрын
Love the simple method. This information is gold. Thanks Uncle Tony! 🙂👍👍
@Ricks4084 жыл бұрын
Im in my mid 30's now and i remember learnin this in the shed at home with my dad teachin me this method although i regularly have the time to setup the cam degree wheel and dial indicator. He is a fireman with car/engine builder/home fab and machinist. I've still got his 25ish yr old Keith Black Racing Engines black logo on white circle emblem tshirt with the blown KB in the center 😂 i only wear it on special occasions now ie fireups or breakins and my future wedding 😂. We used and i was shown alot of old school techniques and principles as they were just that, more accurate than any spec sheet or more focused to its performance requirement. Thank You once again Tony for these reminders on the best ways to get a job done and your knowledge bank, your a "truth" man and they are gettin hard to find these days.
@alanwilliamson93504 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I've been waiting since the marathon build.
@francfurian82154 жыл бұрын
That’s true experience & knowledge. You are the guru Uncle Tony! Cheers😊
@xonsightx2 жыл бұрын
I knew there was a simple way to do this. I also knew you would know how to do it. I'm rebuilding my 302 and it will get a new timing chain so I needed to make sure it's all timed correctly. I'll be using this method for sure. Thanks man.
@moparedtn4 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff here, the likes of which you won't see anywhere else - and now it's preserved for all posterity. Future generations, if they're smart, will refer to Tony's videos for guidance. You know what would be a great follow up to this video? Having a degree wheel set up on the engine and seeing that the KB method agrees with it! -Ed on the Ridge
@tbwpiper1894 жыл бұрын
You're a wonder to watch, Uncle T. I'm at that advanced stage in mechanics to where I know that gas makes car go and soap makes car shiny. Yet watching the engine surgeon in you is both fascinating and enjoyable. Bravissimo, Mechanical Maestro.
@feff57174 жыл бұрын
I've never actually seen someone do this, only heard of it....Thank you for sharing, and I will be using this for sure
@atsidis4 жыл бұрын
Best flowing stock heads to date X
@cesareomendez67943 жыл бұрын
Agree! I have some on my 360 and they do job flawlessly!! Not a hiccup!
@davenorman82514 жыл бұрын
I used to pit crew for a guy who made his own camshaft grinds and he was crazy about asymmetric cam lobes and degrees of overlap he used to painfully (OCD) adjust his engines using a very similar method to this..he would map the movement of the internals on paper like a graph and work on it in testing for days until he got results..lots of bent rods n blown motors but we got results on pump fuel that others never came close to...thems were the days...thanks again uncle tony.
@bobcomment2073 жыл бұрын
I was helping on a top fuel car in the 60's and they were running a Engle cam. The guys at Engle cams told up how to do this. The car had a Donovan gear drive on the cam and we were able to tune/change cam timing at the track, depending on the track condations. Back in that time frame cam timing was considered something that few people understood. Running out of a small midwest town in a two car gargage we were able to trailer numerous big name racers including Don Garlits.
@manicmechanic4484 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to learn how to degree cams for years, and you are the only one could actually tell me, or take the time.
@RealmCenter404 жыл бұрын
This is awesome U.T. I’m going to double check the timing on the 403 I’m putting together in the 79 T/A I bought for my son.
@Z_7324 жыл бұрын
You know.... sometimes I sure wish there was a love button.... thanks UT... I never knew this.. and its awesomeness.. love the vid... now I am excited to see your old skool techniques your going to drop on us with the camshaft video. I know the textbook stuff fairly well. But this is way cool.
@Motor-City-Mike4 жыл бұрын
Hey U.T! This is really smart, and probably More accurate than a degree wheel. On your statement early on about triple checking, you're not being OCD, it's called being thorough and it's one of the things that makes you an authority and good at what you do! I've been an engine builder for 40+ years - not putting the parts together but the real deal - and I'd never seen nor heard of this method, it's always been the degree wheel method. By comparison, the degree wheel deal is more involved and a bit of a pain in the ass - a lot of ways a beginner can make mistakes. Thanks for the heads up, U.T.
@huski3004 жыл бұрын
Your a bloody genius Uncle Tony Thanks for sharing your knowledge and for telling it like you do No ego no bullshit Thanks mate and i you ever come to Australia i,ll buy you a beer or 3
@pauldenick18304 жыл бұрын
3 cheers for UT. Great explanation sweet and simple. Not only can he do it. He can teach motorhead 101. Master tech
@79beans3474 жыл бұрын
That's a quick easy way to do it with minimal tools. I'm going to have to put that one in my back pocket. Genius!!!
@SmokeyRam4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much tony for this video! I havent seen any other tutorial or how to degree a cam like this, I'm Absolutly going to start using this method!
@jackieferrazza65393 жыл бұрын
PURE GOLD!!!!! Thank you Uncle Tony!!!! Cruisin aint a crime
@AtZero1384 жыл бұрын
Always welcome information Boss, thanks Uncle Tony and Auntie Kathy.. Happy Mothers Day Kathy.. Oi oi oi
@HarleyHawk14 жыл бұрын
That's a really cool method. Thanks for the knowledge Uncle Tony
@strokermaverick4 жыл бұрын
Excellent info, Uncle Tony! Thank you!
@baby-sharkgto49024 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Yes more cam videos please, thank you!
@Sludge734 жыл бұрын
Very cool, UT! Thanks for showing that. A request I asked for a while back.
@Shamilt34 жыл бұрын
Great vid, I'm looking forward to the next vid on effects. I've never messed with mechanical timing adjustments
@leroydonnelly29094 жыл бұрын
Thanks UT, another great informative video. This sort of stuff is priceless. 👍
@brockevans60442 жыл бұрын
I went into this thinking this was gonna be a joke.. guy is a genius 👏
@MrStrollerisme4 жыл бұрын
I have agree using both the degree wheel and a feeler gauge, the gauge is what I use to compare and make sure. I still use dial indicators to find exact cross overs and split hairs.
@44hawk284 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen that method used by someone else in I'm almost 50 years. It's quick and it's accurate. Please do a video on phasing a distributor.
@anthonydownes87694 жыл бұрын
Thanks uncle Tony really found this video interesting and informative awesome channel l watch it every day regards Anthony from down under hi uncle Kathy
@gregorytimmons47774 жыл бұрын
I'm restoring a 1976 Moto Guzzi 1000 and i don't have a degree wheel but i'm thinking i could use the tops of the retainers but to be perfectly honest the mental image i got was going off the tops of the push rods. It's a true push rod hemi and really only lacks ideal spark plug placement. Which means it runs a fair amount of ignition lead to get the best performance. Really glad i saw this because although i try to use critical, common sense thinking in life and in metal fabrication and in mechanical endeavours it's not assured that i would have considered this.
@livewire27594 жыл бұрын
Important stuff you won't learn ANYWHERE ELSE.
@livewire27594 жыл бұрын
@@jeffparris8387 I guess I'll have to look up Steve Dulcich...
@livewire27594 жыл бұрын
@@jeffparris8387 Oh, he's one of the motor trend guys... I don't watch the big commercial guys much, but it's cool that they cover some of the old school repair methods. Most of those big channels just have old school cars and repair them with new school methods.
@livewire27594 жыл бұрын
@@jeffparris8387 As a mechanic myself, I'll trust another mechanic who's been working on real cars to make a living rather than a guy who works on "projects" with corporate sponsorship. But to each his own.
@livewire27594 жыл бұрын
@@jeffparris8387 Well, I don't know how you know how long I've been turning wrenches, but the ability to set points with a matchbook and time it by ear is something far more impressive than doing it "by the book". Anybody can use a timing light, but most people who HAVE to use a timing light usually don't know any old school tricks like Tony here shows on nearly every video. There is a big difference between the "do it yourselfers" who THINK they know what they are doing, and the guys like Tony who actually do things right in unconventional ways.
@livewire27594 жыл бұрын
@@jeffparris8387 Timing by ear/feel is magic? How about static timing without a light? There's nothing wrong with being a "by the book" mechanic, but when that book isn't available, that's when people call guys like me and Tony who actually understand how things are engineered and can create a way to diagnose, tune, ect... without having to be taught how to do it.
@pbsgarage34864 жыл бұрын
Thanks UT! Learn something new every video.
@Mike-xt2ot4 жыл бұрын
You're an undercover genius UT!!!
@johnwilburn4 жыл бұрын
I read about this more than 20 years ago in a magazine. Didn’t remember it was Keith Black’s method, but that doesn’t surprise me. When they did it, they used 17mm sockets in place of the lifters for some reason and read off of those. I couldn’t remember the specifics, but I remembered the feeler gauge! Cool then. Cool now.
@Trikekid84 Жыл бұрын
Brought to you by Dicks Deli Sausage! You're doing this when your cam and crank marks are dot to dot, not on the compression stroke, I always got confused that dot to dot is the compression stroke, but it's not. Cool tip that I will compare to the conventional method, just so that I can learn both.
@jamesglenn20064 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial UT, cool stuff. I've never been explained that before. 👍
@michaelferro8974 жыл бұрын
Great stuff 👍 my man, thanks! Um, now what's a camshaft? Lol! That bike has a crazy sound system in it from the looks of it! Thanks again y'all!!! I can't wait to see that Dart run, the 70-71 is probably my favorite incarnation of it. Happy motoring!!!
@bernierezny81564 жыл бұрын
Thanks Uncle Tony keep it coming
@erich84224 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video!! Great information. Definitely just as fool proof as a degree wheel.
@roaminromank10884 жыл бұрын
Alright children quiz time: Q) What is the common theme in ALL of Uncle Tony's videos??? A) All of the technology in the world cannot replace good ol' fashion know how
@davef.28114 жыл бұрын
And getting good results without re-mortgaging your house!
@crazytrain71144 жыл бұрын
We learn for FREEEE!! Tony loves us
@mikepoint49834 жыл бұрын
Again Uncle Tony strikes again , no fancy computers , tools just some good ol fashioned know how . Today’s mechanics need the help of a computer to diagnose problems , which is fine but take that same mechanic and have him try to use his brain and hands on techniques , can guarantee he couldn’t repair it . Your the man Uncle Tony .
@wesbuhr5484 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony that makes perfect sense for the first time ever 👍
@JayGuitars14 жыл бұрын
I got a lot out of this one Tony, thanks.
@wallacebrown63664 жыл бұрын
During the live engine build I was wondering how you knew the difference in lifter height was .012 for that build. Now I know, .006 of an inch equals 2 Deg. got It. and thanks.
@arockpcb1347Ай бұрын
Very good explanation. Well done
@geoffreyp46154 жыл бұрын
I can understand it a lot better now ut you made it alot simpler in my head for me
@novaguy84194 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info. This will be soooooo helpful.
@79beans3474 жыл бұрын
I love tips and tricks like this great info bud
@kurtzimmerman16374 жыл бұрын
more wisdom from utg. thanks for the video!
@yobentley72744 жыл бұрын
this makes total sense to me...wow..I really got it and I am not a smart man. Thank you.
@henryfuentes34254 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge
@chacebryan15593 жыл бұрын
Such a badass old school method.
@TheMarksman5564 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I’ll try this and see where I am at
@natethegreat98172 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info-it’s 2:30am and you saved my ass from having to wait till the morning to get a degree wheel!!
@thomasbabaian1241 Жыл бұрын
Great. Made total sense!!!! Thanks
@jacquelinechellis403611 ай бұрын
Good tip, especially checking all the lobes
@cfmechanic4 жыл бұрын
Wow so much involved i just saw u hovering had no idea what u were doing.
@keithcalitri8404 жыл бұрын
Great stuff thanks uncle tony
@Solamint14 жыл бұрын
Timeless tech!
@longBowHunterII3 жыл бұрын
an other hot tip, I have watch this over and over
@jackwilson41974 жыл бұрын
I use this method for my for 4 cam delkron sportster drag bike 150 cubic inch, I move my cams around because remember you have to TIG weld those red shift cams two lobes too the shaft I spot check the TDC. LIFTS. I haven't use a degree wheel in 20 years lol
@geomod68502 жыл бұрын
Thank you Uncle Tony!
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking22594 жыл бұрын
I Like this, thanks Tony! Bravo!
@kennethperian43702 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing telling, now I can time my 460 v8 the right way. Thanks again see you next time see ya bye
@MrPedix2c4 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony thank you for that very informative video, I really enjoy all your videos. It's really appreciated by us all that you're willing to share your knowledge and experience.
@oldsjetfire89752 жыл бұрын
Just learned another great tip!
@shock-eh3849 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great video!!!!
@Jonhobbs644 жыл бұрын
Wow! Where did you learn all this great stuff!! I am a 55 year old crazy hot rodder and this is the best explanation of how to degree a cam that i have ever seen! I cant wait to try it on my current c3 454 build. Also the air shock on the right side only was awesome too. Thanks for all the info that just isnt available anywhere else.
@robertmedsker53054 жыл бұрын
Great stuff UC ... really cool oldschool .. next time cycle the stat on the cooler so we can hear you better 😂😂😂
@gavin_thought2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Could you do this by measuring the difference in the pushrods on a ford inline 6 due to the lifters being tucked away? I have adjustable rockers so I’m sure the springs won’t be as accurate. Thank you!!
@johnserou64664 жыл бұрын
Love it! Thanks
@prancstaman4 жыл бұрын
Good way of doing it. I never needed a reason to degree a cam in my engines. I was always lucky to just put them together, LOL.
@RohanSanjith Жыл бұрын
Whats happens if we did not degree the camshaft
@prancstaman Жыл бұрын
@@RohanSanjith nothing, you just take the cam manufacturer's word that it is made right.
@RohanSanjith Жыл бұрын
What if we just check visually if the intake valves opening during intake stroke, and both valves close at combustion stroke, and exhaust opening at the exhaust stroke, will that be enough without degreeing
@prancstaman Жыл бұрын
@@RohanSanjith sure. But degreeing a cam is a more precise way of making sure the specs are correct. You are talking of basic workings of a cam. The degreeing lets you see into the exact opening and closing of the valves. Your eyes can't see that.
@kellismith4329 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned twice early in the video that this was tdc of the exhaust stroke, I would have guessed that to be the compression stroke if the valves are in that position