How To Accurately Degree Your Cam With No Special Tools

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4 жыл бұрын

It's not always practical or possible to go through all the text book steps when having to check or degree a camshaft. Here's a simple 10 minute method that you can use anytime and get repeatable, accurate results.

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@LunarOutlawsGarage
@LunarOutlawsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
This was by far the most amazing thing I learned when I was down there. Brilliant
@electrix6751
@electrix6751 4 жыл бұрын
I've done it using the degree wheel and dial indicator method. But this is a lot simpler!
@LunarOutlawsGarage
@LunarOutlawsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Electrix and very quick
@loganpe427
@loganpe427 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard about this method but never met anyone who could actually do it, thanks _UT_ a great tip for another old wrench to have in the mental tool box! 😁👍🇺🇸
@causwayspeedway
@causwayspeedway 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in my brain box also saved video!!
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, This is what I love about Uncle Tony!! Old school ways being past down the younger generation!!! The best part is he gives credit where it's due! Keith Black a true master mind!!! Tony you rock...when this virus stuff is over I want to hit the track with you and I will bring Casper!
@matthewb7049
@matthewb7049 4 жыл бұрын
@@kennshotts7258 yeah. You gotta be a computer scientist nowadays to work on cars.
@lskiller1903
@lskiller1903 4 жыл бұрын
@@kennshotts7258 That's exactly the same thing my Great Great Great Grand Pappy, said in 1932 when Henry Ford came out with the flathead V8. And just look at how much fun everybody had with the ultra modern stuff in the 50's, you know mechanical fuel injection, overhead valves, automatic transmissions in hot rods can you believe that! And then the kids turned their backs on the four cylinder hot rod builds, for all that new junk! Those poor kids back then forced into the modern hot rod scene of the 50's.
@donh54gmail
@donh54gmail 4 жыл бұрын
Been playing with engines for nearly 50 years, and I still learn stuff from UT almost every video they upload! Keep it up UT & UK. All the best from Queensland Australia!
@peacfulseas
@peacfulseas 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. That is a 1st for this old fossil too.
@loganpe427
@loganpe427 4 жыл бұрын
Same here, we all know things valuable to pass on. I can't stand idiots who don't appreciate the other guys skill and share freely! Great hearing from our cousins from down under 😁👍!
@samjohnson4014
@samjohnson4014 4 жыл бұрын
Don Hansford yeh mate I’m only a 20 year tradesman but I’m the same. Love Tony’s vids. Hi from New South Wales
@richdetlaff-5983
@richdetlaff-5983 10 ай бұрын
Uncle Tony eats lives and breathe this stuff....he is yoda
@jamesmartin-lb6br
@jamesmartin-lb6br 4 жыл бұрын
You know it's solid gold when Keith Black came up with it. Keep it rolling UTG!
@mikefedele4521
@mikefedele4521 4 жыл бұрын
It has been a long time since I've seen that done. An old family friend showed me how to do that when I was around 10 or so. I've used it myself people think I'm nuts you use what you know. When you did it on the live stream I had a grin on my face... It took me back to Sam and sons outside the side bay door monkeying around like he always did. A very pleasant memory in my world seems like a like a lifetime ago. Thanks for the re do. I enjoyed it.
@doubleaaaron
@doubleaaaron 4 жыл бұрын
My brother use to do it this way. When I was younger I thought he was crazy, but he always had good running engines. I live the old school basic ways. They work well. Good stuff Tony.
@NjJfjr
@NjJfjr Жыл бұрын
I was taught by Old School @VALAITIS MOTOR SERV SOUTH PHILADELPHIA PA & YES ALFRED J VALAITIS WAS MY MENTOR , BOBBY NEWMAN' NEWMAN'S AUTO SERVICE TOO! There are a few others I will dedicate at another time. Keep up the good work. I've destroyed at least 3 slants in my time starting out & My dad did the same except all mine had pistons sent to outer space OUT DOING MY DAD ! 😂 Nj'sJfJr 👍🏼💪🏼❤️🇺🇸 💥 BADA BING BADA BOOM 💥 I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE 🙌
@johnholtz1205
@johnholtz1205 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say this is the best wrenching channel in KZfaq history. My man has more knowledge then anyone I’ve seen.
@1961kickboxer
@1961kickboxer 4 жыл бұрын
Your video on ignition timing was cool thanks uncle tony.
@1962pjb
@1962pjb 4 жыл бұрын
Keith Black. The man, the myth, the legend! 👍
@donschneider6053
@donschneider6053 4 жыл бұрын
I had heard of this method years ago but you are the first to actually show it being done thank you slot
@ericheine2414
@ericheine2414 4 жыл бұрын
That was great. I've never degreed a camshaft in using a wheel. But I always build the same motor. The 375 horse Chevy 350 with hydraulic cam. I always use a new true roller timing chain and the new Woodruff key. Great video, short, sweet, and informative. thank you
@michaelpeterson4348
@michaelpeterson4348 4 жыл бұрын
You’re lazy too !
@wingrider1004
@wingrider1004 4 ай бұрын
I'd buy Tony a house next to mine just to have him next door for my restoration build...LOL
@rtkl13
@rtkl13 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yes man...I bet there is quite a few gearheads that never knew this trick. I sure didn't, always learn something no matter how long you've been doing it
@InuranusBrokoff
@InuranusBrokoff 4 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for KZfaq gold like this...
@user-xw4hn7lb3x
@user-xw4hn7lb3x 7 ай бұрын
You can also buy a dial tool that screws into the spark plug hole for TDC. Very accurate and cheap too. With this tool and the straight edge ruler and feeler gauge for cam setting, this is more accurate than the degree wheel method because with the degree wheel, you can only 'eyeball' it.
@garymitchell6897
@garymitchell6897 2 ай бұрын
Was taught that about 55 years ago when I was an apprentice mechanic. Gets you with in a degree or two.nice to see .
@MS-ts4db
@MS-ts4db 3 жыл бұрын
Can't beat Uncle Tony with a stick! Its not practice makes perfect, its perfect practice makes perfect...because you can be doing something wrong for 40yrs and never get it right. UT, someone taught you right the first time, and we are the lucky ones you are sharing this knowledge with. Eternally humble. TY :)
@ohm1945
@ohm1945 4 жыл бұрын
Simplicity. Logical no nonsense Uncle Tony methodology. Thanks a ton.
@ramoncasillas4490
@ramoncasillas4490 4 жыл бұрын
Weeeew!!! Great video tony!! I tried my best to keep up and absorb the most info I could. Your the man. A complete mechanic You have probably forgotten more info than most people know. Thank for doing what you do.
@toddmccarter45
@toddmccarter45 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing a detailed explanation on this, I watched it live and wasn't really following what was going on. And now I have a great reference to go straight back to. As usual, thanks for another great video.
@davidmoore9482
@davidmoore9482 4 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony all ways has the best way of explaining things Gold Mine of knowledge thanks UTG
@TheCanadianBubba
@TheCanadianBubba 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip about preloading the cam in the direction of rotation, great days to you Tony !
@fourfortydemon
@fourfortydemon 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that Tony , I asked Uncle Kathy for this and you guys delivered !!!
@Billhatestheinternet
@Billhatestheinternet 2 жыл бұрын
This is the most "Barney Style" explanation or method I have ever seen. I actually get how to do this now.
@allenlarabie8854
@allenlarabie8854 4 жыл бұрын
Love the simple method. This information is gold. Thanks Uncle Tony! 🙂👍👍
@Ricks408
@Ricks408 4 жыл бұрын
Im in my mid 30's now and i remember learnin this in the shed at home with my dad teachin me this method although i regularly have the time to setup the cam degree wheel and dial indicator. He is a fireman with car/engine builder/home fab and machinist. I've still got his 25ish yr old Keith Black Racing Engines black logo on white circle emblem tshirt with the blown KB in the center 😂 i only wear it on special occasions now ie fireups or breakins and my future wedding 😂. We used and i was shown alot of old school techniques and principles as they were just that, more accurate than any spec sheet or more focused to its performance requirement. Thank You once again Tony for these reminders on the best ways to get a job done and your knowledge bank, your a "truth" man and they are gettin hard to find these days.
@alanwilliamson9350
@alanwilliamson9350 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I've been waiting since the marathon build.
@francfurian8215
@francfurian8215 4 жыл бұрын
That’s true experience & knowledge. You are the guru Uncle Tony! Cheers😊
@xonsightx
@xonsightx 2 жыл бұрын
I knew there was a simple way to do this. I also knew you would know how to do it. I'm rebuilding my 302 and it will get a new timing chain so I needed to make sure it's all timed correctly. I'll be using this method for sure. Thanks man.
@moparedtn
@moparedtn 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff here, the likes of which you won't see anywhere else - and now it's preserved for all posterity. Future generations, if they're smart, will refer to Tony's videos for guidance. You know what would be a great follow up to this video? Having a degree wheel set up on the engine and seeing that the KB method agrees with it! -Ed on the Ridge
@tbwpiper189
@tbwpiper189 4 жыл бұрын
You're a wonder to watch, Uncle T. I'm at that advanced stage in mechanics to where I know that gas makes car go and soap makes car shiny. Yet watching the engine surgeon in you is both fascinating and enjoyable. Bravissimo, Mechanical Maestro.
@feff5717
@feff5717 4 жыл бұрын
I've never actually seen someone do this, only heard of it....Thank you for sharing, and I will be using this for sure
@atsidis
@atsidis 4 жыл бұрын
Best flowing stock heads to date X
@cesareomendez6794
@cesareomendez6794 3 жыл бұрын
Agree! I have some on my 360 and they do job flawlessly!! Not a hiccup!
@davenorman8251
@davenorman8251 4 жыл бұрын
I used to pit crew for a guy who made his own camshaft grinds and he was crazy about asymmetric cam lobes and degrees of overlap he used to painfully (OCD) adjust his engines using a very similar method to this..he would map the movement of the internals on paper like a graph and work on it in testing for days until he got results..lots of bent rods n blown motors but we got results on pump fuel that others never came close to...thems were the days...thanks again uncle tony.
@bobcomment207
@bobcomment207 3 жыл бұрын
I was helping on a top fuel car in the 60's and they were running a Engle cam. The guys at Engle cams told up how to do this. The car had a Donovan gear drive on the cam and we were able to tune/change cam timing at the track, depending on the track condations. Back in that time frame cam timing was considered something that few people understood. Running out of a small midwest town in a two car gargage we were able to trailer numerous big name racers including Don Garlits.
@manicmechanic448
@manicmechanic448 4 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to learn how to degree cams for years, and you are the only one could actually tell me, or take the time.
@RealmCenter40
@RealmCenter40 4 жыл бұрын
This is awesome U.T. I’m going to double check the timing on the 403 I’m putting together in the 79 T/A I bought for my son.
@Z_732
@Z_732 4 жыл бұрын
You know.... sometimes I sure wish there was a love button.... thanks UT... I never knew this.. and its awesomeness.. love the vid... now I am excited to see your old skool techniques your going to drop on us with the camshaft video. I know the textbook stuff fairly well. But this is way cool.
@Motor-City-Mike
@Motor-City-Mike 4 жыл бұрын
Hey U.T! This is really smart, and probably More accurate than a degree wheel. On your statement early on about triple checking, you're not being OCD, it's called being thorough and it's one of the things that makes you an authority and good at what you do! I've been an engine builder for 40+ years - not putting the parts together but the real deal - and I'd never seen nor heard of this method, it's always been the degree wheel method. By comparison, the degree wheel deal is more involved and a bit of a pain in the ass - a lot of ways a beginner can make mistakes. Thanks for the heads up, U.T.
@huski300
@huski300 4 жыл бұрын
Your a bloody genius Uncle Tony Thanks for sharing your knowledge and for telling it like you do No ego no bullshit Thanks mate and i you ever come to Australia i,ll buy you a beer or 3
@pauldenick1830
@pauldenick1830 4 жыл бұрын
3 cheers for UT. Great explanation sweet and simple. Not only can he do it. He can teach motorhead 101. Master tech
@79beans347
@79beans347 4 жыл бұрын
That's a quick easy way to do it with minimal tools. I'm going to have to put that one in my back pocket. Genius!!!
@SmokeyRam
@SmokeyRam 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much tony for this video! I havent seen any other tutorial or how to degree a cam like this, I'm Absolutly going to start using this method!
@jackieferrazza6539
@jackieferrazza6539 3 жыл бұрын
PURE GOLD!!!!! Thank you Uncle Tony!!!! Cruisin aint a crime
@AtZero138
@AtZero138 4 жыл бұрын
Always welcome information Boss, thanks Uncle Tony and Auntie Kathy.. Happy Mothers Day Kathy.. Oi oi oi
@HarleyHawk1
@HarleyHawk1 4 жыл бұрын
That's a really cool method. Thanks for the knowledge Uncle Tony
@strokermaverick
@strokermaverick 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent info, Uncle Tony! Thank you!
@baby-sharkgto4902
@baby-sharkgto4902 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Yes more cam videos please, thank you!
@Sludge73
@Sludge73 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool, UT! Thanks for showing that. A request I asked for a while back.
@Shamilt3
@Shamilt3 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid, I'm looking forward to the next vid on effects. I've never messed with mechanical timing adjustments
@leroydonnelly2909
@leroydonnelly2909 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks UT, another great informative video. This sort of stuff is priceless. 👍
@brockevans6044
@brockevans6044 2 жыл бұрын
I went into this thinking this was gonna be a joke.. guy is a genius 👏
@MrStrollerisme
@MrStrollerisme 4 жыл бұрын
I have agree using both the degree wheel and a feeler gauge, the gauge is what I use to compare and make sure. I still use dial indicators to find exact cross overs and split hairs.
@44hawk28
@44hawk28 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen that method used by someone else in I'm almost 50 years. It's quick and it's accurate. Please do a video on phasing a distributor.
@anthonydownes8769
@anthonydownes8769 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks uncle Tony really found this video interesting and informative awesome channel l watch it every day regards Anthony from down under hi uncle Kathy
@gregorytimmons4777
@gregorytimmons4777 4 жыл бұрын
I'm restoring a 1976 Moto Guzzi 1000 and i don't have a degree wheel but i'm thinking i could use the tops of the retainers but to be perfectly honest the mental image i got was going off the tops of the push rods. It's a true push rod hemi and really only lacks ideal spark plug placement. Which means it runs a fair amount of ignition lead to get the best performance. Really glad i saw this because although i try to use critical, common sense thinking in life and in metal fabrication and in mechanical endeavours it's not assured that i would have considered this.
@livewire2759
@livewire2759 4 жыл бұрын
Important stuff you won't learn ANYWHERE ELSE.
@livewire2759
@livewire2759 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffparris8387 I guess I'll have to look up Steve Dulcich...
@livewire2759
@livewire2759 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffparris8387 Oh, he's one of the motor trend guys... I don't watch the big commercial guys much, but it's cool that they cover some of the old school repair methods. Most of those big channels just have old school cars and repair them with new school methods.
@livewire2759
@livewire2759 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffparris8387 As a mechanic myself, I'll trust another mechanic who's been working on real cars to make a living rather than a guy who works on "projects" with corporate sponsorship. But to each his own.
@livewire2759
@livewire2759 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffparris8387 Well, I don't know how you know how long I've been turning wrenches, but the ability to set points with a matchbook and time it by ear is something far more impressive than doing it "by the book". Anybody can use a timing light, but most people who HAVE to use a timing light usually don't know any old school tricks like Tony here shows on nearly every video. There is a big difference between the "do it yourselfers" who THINK they know what they are doing, and the guys like Tony who actually do things right in unconventional ways.
@livewire2759
@livewire2759 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffparris8387 Timing by ear/feel is magic? How about static timing without a light? There's nothing wrong with being a "by the book" mechanic, but when that book isn't available, that's when people call guys like me and Tony who actually understand how things are engineered and can create a way to diagnose, tune, ect... without having to be taught how to do it.
@pbsgarage3486
@pbsgarage3486 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks UT! Learn something new every video.
@Mike-xt2ot
@Mike-xt2ot 4 жыл бұрын
You're an undercover genius UT!!!
@johnwilburn
@johnwilburn 4 жыл бұрын
I read about this more than 20 years ago in a magazine. Didn’t remember it was Keith Black’s method, but that doesn’t surprise me. When they did it, they used 17mm sockets in place of the lifters for some reason and read off of those. I couldn’t remember the specifics, but I remembered the feeler gauge! Cool then. Cool now.
@Trikekid84
@Trikekid84 Жыл бұрын
Brought to you by Dicks Deli Sausage! You're doing this when your cam and crank marks are dot to dot, not on the compression stroke, I always got confused that dot to dot is the compression stroke, but it's not. Cool tip that I will compare to the conventional method, just so that I can learn both.
@jamesglenn2006
@jamesglenn2006 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial UT, cool stuff. I've never been explained that before. 👍
@michaelferro897
@michaelferro897 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff 👍 my man, thanks! Um, now what's a camshaft? Lol! That bike has a crazy sound system in it from the looks of it! Thanks again y'all!!! I can't wait to see that Dart run, the 70-71 is probably my favorite incarnation of it. Happy motoring!!!
@bernierezny8156
@bernierezny8156 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Uncle Tony keep it coming
@erich8422
@erich8422 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video!! Great information. Definitely just as fool proof as a degree wheel.
@roaminromank1088
@roaminromank1088 4 жыл бұрын
Alright children quiz time: Q) What is the common theme in ALL of Uncle Tony's videos??? A) All of the technology in the world cannot replace good ol' fashion know how
@davef.2811
@davef.2811 4 жыл бұрын
And getting good results without re-mortgaging your house!
@crazytrain7114
@crazytrain7114 4 жыл бұрын
We learn for FREEEE!! Tony loves us
@mikepoint4983
@mikepoint4983 4 жыл бұрын
Again Uncle Tony strikes again , no fancy computers , tools just some good ol fashioned know how . Today’s mechanics need the help of a computer to diagnose problems , which is fine but take that same mechanic and have him try to use his brain and hands on techniques , can guarantee he couldn’t repair it . Your the man Uncle Tony .
@wesbuhr548
@wesbuhr548 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony that makes perfect sense for the first time ever 👍
@JayGuitars1
@JayGuitars1 4 жыл бұрын
I got a lot out of this one Tony, thanks.
@wallacebrown6366
@wallacebrown6366 4 жыл бұрын
During the live engine build I was wondering how you knew the difference in lifter height was .012 for that build. Now I know, .006 of an inch equals 2 Deg. got It. and thanks.
@arockpcb1347
@arockpcb1347 Ай бұрын
Very good explanation. Well done
@geoffreyp4615
@geoffreyp4615 4 жыл бұрын
I can understand it a lot better now ut you made it alot simpler in my head for me
@novaguy8419
@novaguy8419 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this info. This will be soooooo helpful.
@79beans347
@79beans347 4 жыл бұрын
I love tips and tricks like this great info bud
@kurtzimmerman1637
@kurtzimmerman1637 4 жыл бұрын
more wisdom from utg. thanks for the video!
@yobentley7274
@yobentley7274 4 жыл бұрын
this makes total sense to me...wow..I really got it and I am not a smart man. Thank you.
@henryfuentes3425
@henryfuentes3425 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge
@chacebryan1559
@chacebryan1559 3 жыл бұрын
Such a badass old school method.
@TheMarksman556
@TheMarksman556 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I’ll try this and see where I am at
@natethegreat9817
@natethegreat9817 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info-it’s 2:30am and you saved my ass from having to wait till the morning to get a degree wheel!!
@thomasbabaian1241
@thomasbabaian1241 Жыл бұрын
Great. Made total sense!!!! Thanks
@jacquelinechellis4036
@jacquelinechellis4036 11 ай бұрын
Good tip, especially checking all the lobes
@cfmechanic
@cfmechanic 4 жыл бұрын
Wow so much involved i just saw u hovering had no idea what u were doing.
@keithcalitri840
@keithcalitri840 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff thanks uncle tony
@Solamint1
@Solamint1 4 жыл бұрын
Timeless tech!
@longBowHunterII
@longBowHunterII 3 жыл бұрын
an other hot tip, I have watch this over and over
@jackwilson4197
@jackwilson4197 4 жыл бұрын
I use this method for my for 4 cam delkron sportster drag bike 150 cubic inch, I move my cams around because remember you have to TIG weld those red shift cams two lobes too the shaft I spot check the TDC. LIFTS. I haven't use a degree wheel in 20 years lol
@geomod6850
@geomod6850 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Uncle Tony!
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 4 жыл бұрын
I Like this, thanks Tony! Bravo!
@kennethperian4370
@kennethperian4370 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing telling, now I can time my 460 v8 the right way. Thanks again see you next time see ya bye
@MrPedix2c
@MrPedix2c 4 жыл бұрын
Uncle Tony thank you for that very informative video, I really enjoy all your videos. It's really appreciated by us all that you're willing to share your knowledge and experience.
@oldsjetfire8975
@oldsjetfire8975 2 жыл бұрын
Just learned another great tip!
@shock-eh3849
@shock-eh3849 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great video!!!!
@Jonhobbs64
@Jonhobbs64 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Where did you learn all this great stuff!! I am a 55 year old crazy hot rodder and this is the best explanation of how to degree a cam that i have ever seen! I cant wait to try it on my current c3 454 build. Also the air shock on the right side only was awesome too. Thanks for all the info that just isnt available anywhere else.
@robertmedsker5305
@robertmedsker5305 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff UC ... really cool oldschool .. next time cycle the stat on the cooler so we can hear you better 😂😂😂
@gavin_thought
@gavin_thought 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Could you do this by measuring the difference in the pushrods on a ford inline 6 due to the lifters being tucked away? I have adjustable rockers so I’m sure the springs won’t be as accurate. Thank you!!
@johnserou6466
@johnserou6466 4 жыл бұрын
Love it! Thanks
@prancstaman
@prancstaman 4 жыл бұрын
Good way of doing it. I never needed a reason to degree a cam in my engines. I was always lucky to just put them together, LOL.
@RohanSanjith
@RohanSanjith Жыл бұрын
Whats happens if we did not degree the camshaft
@prancstaman
@prancstaman Жыл бұрын
@@RohanSanjith nothing, you just take the cam manufacturer's word that it is made right.
@RohanSanjith
@RohanSanjith Жыл бұрын
What if we just check visually if the intake valves opening during intake stroke, and both valves close at combustion stroke, and exhaust opening at the exhaust stroke, will that be enough without degreeing
@prancstaman
@prancstaman Жыл бұрын
@@RohanSanjith sure. But degreeing a cam is a more precise way of making sure the specs are correct. You are talking of basic workings of a cam. The degreeing lets you see into the exact opening and closing of the valves. Your eyes can't see that.
@kellismith4329
@kellismith4329 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned twice early in the video that this was tdc of the exhaust stroke, I would have guessed that to be the compression stroke if the valves are in that position
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