How to ACTUALLY sidechain in FL Studio

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Dylan Tallchief

Dylan Tallchief

5 жыл бұрын

Automation vs Fruity Limiter vs "Hybrid" Method
Plus I take a look at "Smoothing" and how it affects sidechaining.
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@DylanTallchief
@DylanTallchief 5 жыл бұрын
Another point against sidechaining with automation (both methods) is that it can become desync'd if there lots of latency on the track getting sidechained. So it won't sidechain in time with the rest of the track and will feel off. If you use automation to sidechain it doesn't make you a bad producer or that you make bad music, but it's a flawed method and there are better alternatives out there imo.
@Diabolicalppp
@Diabolicalppp 5 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@BenPotts
@BenPotts 5 жыл бұрын
but dylan what about the p e a k c o n t r o l l e r
@kirua_h
@kirua_h 5 жыл бұрын
Whenever I use peak controller or use fruity envelope controller to trigger sidechain using midi.... If the kicks are close than there is a clicking noise... Any way to prevent this?
@kyklone8881
@kyklone8881 5 жыл бұрын
the reason I use the automation method is because it visualized the volume, and control the exact sidechain shape I wanted.
@kirua_h
@kirua_h 5 жыл бұрын
@@kyklone8881 don't you get a click when the automation for the kicks are close to each other?
@coilovercat
@coilovercat 4 жыл бұрын
*sidechain 101:* step 1: make a song without bass step 2: make the bass step 3: publish both songs, separately step 4: in description, ask people to play both parts at the same time step 5: with bass part, ask people to turn down volume at the correct times step 6: ???? step 7: profit
@coilovercat
@coilovercat 3 жыл бұрын
@@shrestha8814 almost 6 feet
@cloudscape5996
@cloudscape5996 3 жыл бұрын
@@coilovercat LOLLL xDDD
@OzyBIG
@OzyBIG 3 жыл бұрын
Im cryin i cant😂😂😂
@deleted9349
@deleted9349 3 жыл бұрын
@@shrestha8814 Eight GB of RAM. This isn't something necessarily good, but it might pass, especially for lighter weight games. I am that *high* .
@googleguy-ft8xh
@googleguy-ft8xh 2 жыл бұрын
Step 6: double the plays
@OscarSantosMusic
@OscarSantosMusic 5 жыл бұрын
How to ACTUALLY sidechain: play the audio and record it with microphone Move microphone closer and further Done 😎
@whoislauf
@whoislauf 5 жыл бұрын
big brain
@hamzamasmoudi8532
@hamzamasmoudi8532 5 жыл бұрын
BIG BRAIN
@WhosKorzov
@WhosKorzov 5 жыл бұрын
big brain
@stelinnaoroibam3517
@stelinnaoroibam3517 5 жыл бұрын
Now I'm gonna do what's called a gamer move
@woonida
@woonida 5 жыл бұрын
brain big
@Rannument
@Rannument 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you still remember the FL Gang
@mickey1700
@mickey1700 5 жыл бұрын
Tip: instead of routing and turning the volume down on the sidechain channel right click the arrow and select sidechain instead of routing!
@DylanTallchief
@DylanTallchief 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's the exact same thing but I just showed it this way to kind of explain what routing is really doing
@cedricmathieu2957
@cedricmathieu2957 5 жыл бұрын
@@DylanTallchief thank you for that ☺
@51Daedalus
@51Daedalus 5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for that the whole video :D
@Somnic
@Somnic 5 жыл бұрын
Or just shift click, by far the best way
@saadkareem9552
@saadkareem9552 4 жыл бұрын
@@DylanTallchief nice try making us think you already knew that
@happyw5124
@happyw5124 5 жыл бұрын
Fruity Peak Controller for sidechain 😎
@xrenynthemusicmage6422
@xrenynthemusicmage6422 4 жыл бұрын
Yeeh I better go back to Fruity Envelope...
@ldbpuch4306
@ldbpuch4306 4 жыл бұрын
Avicii used this method
@cancer5950
@cancer5950 4 жыл бұрын
Fruity limiter4lyf
@savantmusic_4592
@savantmusic_4592 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, gross beat
@erichughes3987
@erichughes3987 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I use. Is that bad?
@isnanrooney1
@isnanrooney1 5 жыл бұрын
Producer : Spent so much time for a very advance and detailed mixing technique to make your music sounds amazingly good Listener : I don't hear any difference, it's just literally sounds like music
@50CalBeats
@50CalBeats 4 жыл бұрын
Counterpoint: Producer: hey i didnt sidechain this track so my bass and synths couldn't really be pushed as loud as other producers tracks, even after checking for phase issues Listener: wow wtf this track isn't as loud as the other ones, skip it!!!
@Nikilouder
@Nikilouder 4 жыл бұрын
Its not about that detail. It just makes your workflow a lot faster.
@9oh7music63
@9oh7music63 4 жыл бұрын
IB it be like that sometimes
@birdy702
@birdy702 4 жыл бұрын
@@50CalBeats Except no one actually says that lol
@its.arjun.s
@its.arjun.s 4 жыл бұрын
@@50CalBeats Yes. That's something which definitely happen. Songs without sidechain does sound kinda wierd
@MaemiNoYume
@MaemiNoYume 5 жыл бұрын
All Nighter vol. 3 album is fantastic. I can't get enough of it. Every track is absolutely gorgeous
@vantasycai9716
@vantasycai9716 5 жыл бұрын
Noob: volume automation Pro: Fruity Limiter blablabla... Me: KickStart
@leongargan6024
@leongargan6024 5 жыл бұрын
For real.
@ikerbanuelos395
@ikerbanuelos395 4 жыл бұрын
+1 For real kickstart is legend haha
@BAHTY3_228
@BAHTY3_228 4 жыл бұрын
God: peak controller
@wiltedangel
@wiltedangel 4 жыл бұрын
I use gross beat and limiter
@AtanoKSi
@AtanoKSi 4 жыл бұрын
I put my fingers into my ears repeatedly
@hamronepal3067
@hamronepal3067 5 жыл бұрын
I just come closer and further from my microphone while screaming aaaaaaaaaa
@HorrorWorldx
@HorrorWorldx 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful So then it sounds like aaaaaAAAA aaaaAaaaaa AAAAA aaaaaAAAAAAAA
@Aerox90
@Aerox90 5 жыл бұрын
I've used peak controller for sidechaining since 2003, and I have no intentions breaking up with it! 😂
@christiantaylor1495
@christiantaylor1495 5 жыл бұрын
How do you use it
@GeneticKleptomaniac
@GeneticKleptomaniac 5 жыл бұрын
Also you can do a High Pass Filter sidechain instead of volume sidechain
@jetlag1488
@jetlag1488 4 жыл бұрын
Use Envelope Controller instead. It gives you full control over the curve and you can use 8 curves at the same time.
@GeneticKleptomaniac
@GeneticKleptomaniac 4 жыл бұрын
@@jetlag1488 Yeah sorry I mixed things up, qi meant: - Envelope Controller for High Pass Sidechain - Peak Controller for proportion of volume in reverb/demay sends (for voice for example, reverb comes at the end and not during the singing)
@rawtec7396
@rawtec7396 4 жыл бұрын
@@GeneticKleptomaniac Or just link to band of para EQ, thats what I prefer to do when sidechaining with pcon. You can side chain low band with bass signals and with another peak controlller claps, snares or whatever you want for mids and/or high bands. just try bless
@vitoftw9646
@vitoftw9646 5 жыл бұрын
Ok so let's have a deal, I'll iron your shirts and you tell me how to master my music skills.
@KaaiiiiOG
@KaaiiiiOG 5 жыл бұрын
lol its cuz his shirt has lots of wrinkles in the video right.
@vitoftw9646
@vitoftw9646 5 жыл бұрын
@@KaaiiiiOG indeed
@HorrorWorldx
@HorrorWorldx 4 жыл бұрын
Ha
@DJGRILO20
@DJGRILO20 2 жыл бұрын
I always use the Kickstart plugin , and then i automate it on the playlist , and i turn it up or down depending of the track section. It´s easier. Nice video!
@danida20
@danida20 Жыл бұрын
Broo thanks man thats thrue
@belkadimusic
@belkadimusic 5 жыл бұрын
I've never learned so much about sidechain till this video. Thank you Dylan.
@MuttleyGames
@MuttleyGames 5 жыл бұрын
Put a Peak Controller on the bass Put a Stereo enhancer on the thing u wanna sidechain. Link volume knob to Peak controller(peak) Fine tune the amount of sidechain with the peak controller with a visual representation of the curve. Easy :D
@TheVictimOfficial
@TheVictimOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
yup agree
@Photik
@Photik 5 жыл бұрын
What does the stereo enhancer do in this sidechain method?
@ChillingWithEnman
@ChillingWithEnman 5 жыл бұрын
@@Photik just to control the volume. A fruity balance would be just fine
@christiantaylor1495
@christiantaylor1495 5 жыл бұрын
Still don't get it after 9 years experience.
@MuttleyGames
@MuttleyGames 5 жыл бұрын
every time the kick goes boom it uses the signal to make the melody go low
@WhoCaresThough
@WhoCaresThough 5 жыл бұрын
Why is no one talking about the peak controller? Imo far easier to set up and pretty much the same results
@frostyfingers9282
@frostyfingers9282 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's how I do it. Peak controller on the kick channel, linked to Fruity Balance volume on the bass track. Done
@Photik
@Photik 5 жыл бұрын
Linking to a channel and right clicking to sidechain it is much easier than using the peak controller for me
@Photik
@Photik 5 жыл бұрын
Used to use peak controller method but once I found out about the other method I switched over
@apexshinbi638
@apexshinbi638 5 жыл бұрын
hivesaurus WOAH WOAH WOAH plz tell me how to use the Peak Controller cuz that shit baffles me
@sraey8133
@sraey8133 5 жыл бұрын
@@apexshinbi638same here...we can do a lot of things with it..but dont know
@AlvoGTR
@AlvoGTR 5 жыл бұрын
whenever i do use volume automation, i use balance because it's so old it doesnt have smoothing.
@Gumboyaya
@Gumboyaya 5 жыл бұрын
Dstroya what that supposed to mean idk
@AlvoGTR
@AlvoGTR 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gumboyaya the reason fruity balance doesn't have smoothing is because it is so old, the look of the plugin was updated to be vectored like the other vanilla fl plugins but the code was not updated to support smoothing
@AlvoGTR
@AlvoGTR 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Donald Maybe, it's possible but, word has it Moses used fruity balance to part the red sea. Wouldn't doubt if they just vectored it and said fuck it.
@cheqit2048
@cheqit2048 3 жыл бұрын
remember the guys in the nineties(probably earlier but last time I saw it) with those chains on their wallets and it hanging by their waist? those dudes had it sidechaining down
@Rockbandfans1
@Rockbandfans1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this information. Out of all the DAWs tutorials I've seen you're clearly the best!
@Un0ification
@Un0ification 4 жыл бұрын
Dude you made my latest track possible. I had a huge drum pattern I needed to sidechain, and being able to program it in MIDI made it SO MUCH MORE STREAMLINED. MAD props to you.
@fungalwater3175
@fungalwater3175 3 жыл бұрын
How to ACTUALLY side chain: Put your speakers in a soundproof room and stand outside of the room, opening and closing the door when side chain needs to be applied.
@AronMikaelMusic
@AronMikaelMusic 5 жыл бұрын
You fancy man with your quick buttons
@MaNuLaToROfficial
@MaNuLaToROfficial 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@FlowmotionWasTaken
@FlowmotionWasTaken 5 жыл бұрын
Dude this was so helpful, learned something new, keep it up
@VIIIXNASTY
@VIIIXNASTY Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial and great way of explaining. I didn't have a clue until now. Subscribed!
@somerandomfoo1723
@somerandomfoo1723 5 жыл бұрын
Just follow Officer Kenny and don’t sidechain your 808s
@davidutibe-abasiokuku6524
@davidutibe-abasiokuku6524 4 жыл бұрын
W
@Misaki-wk2xe
@Misaki-wk2xe 3 жыл бұрын
H
@user-ft1sw1lr2u
@user-ft1sw1lr2u 3 жыл бұрын
Y
@OzyBIG
@OzyBIG 3 жыл бұрын
?
@waterbottle2963
@waterbottle2963 5 жыл бұрын
I use automation for sidechaining then grouping the kick with the automation clip so they move together when copying so you don't have to select both. Also, I like using automation because I don't just use them for sidechaining but also volume automation. I like having both features. Edit: NEVER use the fader for sidechaining or any automation. It has smoothing. Like Dylan said, you can't adjust your fader anymore. Use Fruity Balance because it doesn't have smoothing. Shout out to SeamlessR! Thank you for teaching me this!
@lilkeish7158
@lilkeish7158 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of your vids I learn something new, I appreciate these
@whatisiswhatable
@whatisiswhatable 4 жыл бұрын
You're a great teacher 🙏🏽 Sidechaining has always been a confusing concept in FL for me but this was great
@Rannument
@Rannument 5 жыл бұрын
My technique is to put the kick and the side chain tracks to one channel with the limiter, I would increase the volume of the kick really high and set a ceiling. So whenever the kick plays the limiter has to decrease the volume of the other things to let the kick in. This is a technique that Fox Stevenson uses as well.
@elmeriputkonen4875
@elmeriputkonen4875 5 жыл бұрын
RGX this is a popular method in hiphop and trap music
@Rannument
@Rannument 5 жыл бұрын
@@elmeriputkonen4875 I didnt knew that. Because it would usually sidechain much enough for dubstep, future bass and house
@Rannument
@Rannument 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Donald nice
@NiedzwiedzMistrzu
@NiedzwiedzMistrzu 5 жыл бұрын
I love Sidechain with LFO Tool. I really recommend that.
@djalgorhythms5239
@djalgorhythms5239 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for exactly this !! The ghost way is perfect for when you are using a drum loop. Thanks so much!
@SultanHelalOfficial
@SultanHelalOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
This video helped me so much bro, thank you ♥️♥️♥️
@BorisBarroso
@BorisBarroso 5 жыл бұрын
How does it compensate the latency when you use plugins that introduce latency?, I have seen cases that latency is not compensated correctly and the sidechain occurs later than you expect.
@AlexandruNeaguPuricelu1
@AlexandruNeaguPuricelu1 5 жыл бұрын
That's a daw problem, if you are absolutely sure it's not a user problem. Auto compensation should be part of the kernel and if that has a problem then whatever method you use will just work around it, and what you should do is change daw altogether.
@AlexandruNeaguPuricelu1
@AlexandruNeaguPuricelu1 5 жыл бұрын
Or plugins if it appears only in a specific plugin
@leo49005
@leo49005 5 жыл бұрын
So when I use fruity balance to sidechain a distortion comes in. Is this a problem that more people experience or is it only me?
@CHROMIUMHEROmusic
@CHROMIUMHEROmusic 5 жыл бұрын
I had noo idea about the hybrid thing, really neat. Thanks!
@MaemiNoYume
@MaemiNoYume 5 жыл бұрын
DYLAN THANK YOU SO MUCH!! Now my friends producers that doens't listen to me will finally do things right
@zeycode0
@zeycode0 5 жыл бұрын
I'll try this method, I was using fruity peak controler. It's clean, but what you showed seems nice as well.
@mrsomebdy6978
@mrsomebdy6978 5 жыл бұрын
I learned the way of doing this kind of sidechaining technique from Asher Postman long time ago
@dico9542
@dico9542 5 жыл бұрын
This was so good, Dylan. Had been routing all my snyths to a mixer track with a fruity balance on it, but the hybrid sidechain gives a much faster workflow.
@dico9542
@dico9542 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Donald if you’ve been doing that for 8 years you’ve really been doing a lot of work for no reason. Look up bus-routing in fl studio. That should help you out
@dico9542
@dico9542 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Donald that’s probably because this aspect of production is more workflow oriented and not melodic or sound-design related.
@xadev9848
@xadev9848 2 жыл бұрын
this video was SO helpful, Thank you!!
@amphobius
@amphobius 5 жыл бұрын
It should probably be said that volume automation, even when it mimicks the effect of sidechain compression to achieve pumping, isn't sidechaining and I think more people need to be made aware of this I say this as it can be confusing when you're introduced to other effects of actual sidechaining that aren't sidechain compression, such as an internal sidechain EQ for compressors (since reacting to bass frequencies can be problematic for mix bus compression) etc Another example would be running a gate plugin, and running short trigger samples into its sidechain to get a clean, reliable gate that doesn't trigger on the wrong hits It's probably too late to stop people calling pumping a sidechain but knowing that a secondary input into something is *actually* a sidechain is very useful going forward
@MarcreaMusic
@MarcreaMusic Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this detailed comment
@MrVybson
@MrVybson 5 жыл бұрын
I definitely like sidechaining with Fruity Balance and automation clips the most. Yes, it's slightly more difficult to work with, but I like the customizability. If I need a different curve for different parts of the song, I can just make the clip unique and change the shape, instead of having to setup 4 different limiters. I can also use it to make wobbles in fills. Also, you can avoid latency if you route everything to one sidechain bus. If you need to cut out the sub, then just switch HQ in the Parametric EQ2 off and it won't add any additional latency. In the end, it all comes to personal preference. Some people use macros, some people do individual automation for everything, some people have presets, some people make everything from scratch.
@Inspector_420
@Inspector_420 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your great videos !
@zig8925
@zig8925 5 жыл бұрын
That was some fucking sick drum and bass!
@xrenynthemusicmage6422
@xrenynthemusicmage6422 4 жыл бұрын
MIDI trigger a Fruity Envelope instead of an automation curve! If you remove the "sustain / loop end" from the envelope it'll always play to the end making it the perfect tool for volume ducking. So mad that Dylan didn't tell me that's a thing I can do! xD guess I gotta make my own video then if that is still so much of a secret
@Betadesk
@Betadesk 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one that did this lol, I saw it in a demo project and imo its the best way
@Patricia_Taxxon
@Patricia_Taxxon 5 жыл бұрын
as an ableton user, finding out how inconvenient it is to sidechain in fl studio was like culture shock. like damn you live like this?
@dynka__
@dynka__ 5 жыл бұрын
there are types of people that use built in sidechain but i think most of them use kickstart or other sidechain plugins
@mBUSHattack
@mBUSHattack 5 жыл бұрын
It's not that bad. Literally takes like 10-20 seconds from scratch, but I also just have a template already setup for side chaining kick and snare in the mixer.
@TealTactics
@TealTactics 5 жыл бұрын
Bro, people are making it way more complicated than it needs to be. STEP 1. Route kick (or whatever signal) into thing you want to sidechain STEP 2. Select sidechain in fruity limiter, adjust knobs to taste Profit
@andresshamis4348
@andresshamis4348 5 жыл бұрын
Most of us use kickstart so its easy af
@andresshamis4348
@andresshamis4348 5 жыл бұрын
Teal Tactics exactly
@Enkii777
@Enkii777 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! really helpful 🙌
@3van660
@3van660 4 жыл бұрын
The midi automation method was so genius! Thx Dylan
@junglemika9984
@junglemika9984 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, peak controller on the kick and link it to an EQ bass/ sub-bass frequency knob on the bass
@Swedar
@Swedar 5 жыл бұрын
Didn‘t know we needed a 15min tutorial on sidechaining, but yet there it is. Love ya Dylan 🙌
@VORTEKMusic
@VORTEKMusic 5 жыл бұрын
proper sidechaining video would be well over 40 minutes :D but now-a-days nobody cares about proper advanced techniques tbh
@LuMozMusic
@LuMozMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Very insigthful! Thank you!
@theMixElite
@theMixElite 5 жыл бұрын
Wohoah... That's a deep analysis!
@Circl3s
@Circl3s 5 жыл бұрын
2 words: Fruity Balance Pros of automating the Fruity Balance volume: Not every song consist of only a kick, if you want ducking on both kick and snare, you can have 2 different automation clips with different shapes. The mixer fader is intact. Less fighting with the compressor and more producing. xd Also, the automation clips shouldn't start at 0% and go up, they should have a very quick curve from max to 0% at the start.
@9oh7music63
@9oh7music63 4 жыл бұрын
people actually do that? lmfao i just SIDECHAIN the mixer track. That’s automation not sidechaining smh
@enriquearmasmusic
@enriquearmasmusic 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the value!
@jeck9826
@jeck9826 4 жыл бұрын
this is a very good video thank you my dude
@disuko
@disuko 5 жыл бұрын
How to ACTUALLY sidechain: Sing what you want the sidechain to sound like with your mouth and then cry over how you can't replicate it for an hour and a half in FL Studio
@MiningSoICanCraft
@MiningSoICanCraft 5 жыл бұрын
FORM represent :)
@RLhardstuckchamp
@RLhardstuckchamp 4 жыл бұрын
Wow huge help, thank you so much
@theunknowndrummer2972
@theunknowndrummer2972 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, so if you REALLY want to use Automation, there is now automation delay compensation in FL. Fruity Peak Controller also works as an alternative to a compressor, but if you want complete control over your sound, balance midi automation is good. You can also use Serum FX and a MIDI out as the trigger. That ones fun to use as well
@nicoaho59
@nicoaho59 4 жыл бұрын
*Silently laughs in Nicky Romero*
@Sjocojate
@Sjocojate 5 жыл бұрын
Its so much easier to automate parameters in Reason :)
@justalpha9138
@justalpha9138 4 жыл бұрын
EYY! FINALLY another person who uses Reason besides me! :D
@mastercraftmc3762
@mastercraftmc3762 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, I also use the fruity envelope controller, love philter method 😊
@artifexmusic
@artifexmusic 5 жыл бұрын
im starting out with this beatmaking stuff and the ghost kick method really helped
@8ava8198
@8ava8198 2 жыл бұрын
why does nobody put their drums in a drum pattern lol?
@Synfang
@Synfang Ай бұрын
Speaking just for myself here: I'm mostly a visual learner and find it a great help to be able to see the waveforms, exactly how long things last relative to the grid, etc.
@derrickswinney2297
@derrickswinney2297 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I wasn't so dyslexic. My brain just has an issue remembering what routes to what. I hate that I have to relearn this crap every time.
@derrickswinney2297
@derrickswinney2297 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Donald See i have no idea what you're refering to here. I'm talking about side chaining. My brain has a hard time remembering what links up to what, and which one do I put the limiter on. Kinda like how some people get left and right confused. I catch myself checking vids like this way more times than i should need to and i always dread the task when it comes to side chaining the bass.
@Ozicks
@Ozicks 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the tip, That will make things much easier for me.
@stelinnaoroibam3517
@stelinnaoroibam3517 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Dylan quick question Let's say I route a sound to track no. 1 and on track 2 I put Kickstart Then I route track no. 1 (sound) to track no. 2 ( Kickstart) and it sidechains right? But the thing is the sidechain is not very effective or heavy unless I unlink the sound i.e track 1 from the master and link it to track no. 2 only i.e Kickstart which itself is link to the master after doing this the sidechain seems to be doing well and effective Why is this happening? Or is this normal like other people does this too?
4 жыл бұрын
How to ACTUALLY sidechain: just do the same thing within the fruity balance plugin done.
@Cholo9095
@Cholo9095 5 жыл бұрын
dude, I actually sidechain with grossbeat kkkk
@sundojosan
@sundojosan 4 жыл бұрын
for the ghost kick method: you can use layers to play both samples without having to copy the kick pattern
@sebastianlagundzija8001
@sebastianlagundzija8001 5 жыл бұрын
Always learn something new from this guy!
@thequickcodevideoguy
@thequickcodevideoguy 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why you use ableton so none of this happens
@butimnotagamer
@butimnotagamer 4 жыл бұрын
no they just don''t know how to sidechain.. it's not the DAW it the person using the DAW
@phorane.8813
@phorane.8813 5 жыл бұрын
The best way to sidechain: buy ableton live
@jololla98
@jololla98 4 жыл бұрын
Actually the best tut of this stuff!!!
@djalienprime
@djalienprime 4 жыл бұрын
Many years ago I've used a pair of Peak Controller + "Link to controller..." to create a sidechain. Link your kick/snare part to Fruity Peak Controller, tweak the Tension knob (TNS in Peak section) and disable Mute switch. Then right-click on "sidechained" part in Mixer and choose the "Link to controller..." item in menu. Then in "Remote control settings" window in "Internal controller" choose your Peak-controlled source - "Peak controller () - Peak" (for example your Kick channel) and edit the "Mapping formula": 0.8-Input usually will do. Here's your sidechain.
@tomspicy
@tomspicy 2 жыл бұрын
quick question, if multiple instruments are channelled to one sidechaining channel, how can you get the same stereo width from the bottom knob adjustments (the same ones used to adjust channels to mono). i use these here and there to make sounds wider, but putting them in a sidechain channel reduces the width, and i can't adjust the width on the sidechain channel because it affects the overall width of all instruments; sub synth etc. fixes?
@Nanoshbeats
@Nanoshbeats 5 жыл бұрын
nice method bro, didn;t know this yet
@wachimol
@wachimol 5 жыл бұрын
You can also draw a volume envelope in Love Philter and have it loop in order to simulate a sidechain effect. Pretty handy for shaping sidechains :)
@wachimol
@wachimol 4 жыл бұрын
@Mark Donald Then don't use it for those situations?
@synthion
@synthion 5 жыл бұрын
I used to use a ghost kick but I actually switched to fruity balance and it works so much better for the kind of music I make ^^
@tverdyznaqs
@tverdyznaqs 5 жыл бұрын
good tutorial, The hybrid method thing was new information to me
@vertigojack4636
@vertigojack4636 4 жыл бұрын
launching automation clips with midi is genius, cant believe ive never thought of this.
@TheExcelllence
@TheExcelllence 5 жыл бұрын
That's a really helpful method, I did just buy *Duck* for sidechaining but I'll make sure to save this tutorial just in case.
@AquaDoesStuff_
@AquaDoesStuff_ 3 жыл бұрын
typically for automation, instead of changing the mixer channel I reserve the bottom effect track for a volume plugin, and change the volume with that instead of the master, that way I can change volume for the mixer track without the sidechain messing it up
@CriticalRoleHighlights
@CriticalRoleHighlights 3 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS ORGANIZE YOUR PLAYLIST, PEOPLE. Also, if you're lazy, just download a sidechain plugin like Kickstart. It limits your ability to be more specific with your sidechaining but if you just make non-intricate music with 4/4 kicks, you're gonna be just fine. Adapt your workflow to the music you make. If you make simple beats or simple music, don't use advanced methods. Work smarter, notn harder.
@LimeFoot
@LimeFoot 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much mate!
@melazmusic
@melazmusic 10 ай бұрын
dylan: "if you are sidechaining" me: "I AM THE SIDECHAIN"
@Tmanstext
@Tmanstext 4 жыл бұрын
ive been using fl for years, and i legit didnt know you could trigger automation with midi until just now. thanks!
@cashew3147
@cashew3147 5 жыл бұрын
I actually needed this so bad
@star.fruitff
@star.fruitff 4 жыл бұрын
I usually never automate the volume faders because they have built in smoothing. I do use the automation method mostly but I’d recommend using fruity balance since it’s automation knob has no smoothing
@danjameswawkins4472
@danjameswawkins4472 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍
@Peron1-MC
@Peron1-MC 3 жыл бұрын
i put a peak controller on the kick (or another kick that i mute) and then connect the volume from the balancer of what i want to sidechain to the controller. then everytime the kick hits it ducks the audio from the instrument. you can then change in the peak controller plugin how much it will duck the audio.
@FarryEntertainment
@FarryEntertainment 5 жыл бұрын
What about pressing the Stop button twice to reset all (volume) automations?
@TheKantraxx
@TheKantraxx 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video! Would love to know what you think about the 'Peak Controller' method (instead of using the Fruity Limiter/sidechain method).
@galacticpenguinz2205
@galacticpenguinz2205 5 жыл бұрын
He’s speaking to my very soul,
@doctorfiji8845
@doctorfiji8845 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you doctor Dylan
@soapybeats4111
@soapybeats4111 5 жыл бұрын
I usually set up 7 inserts: Synths In, Low, Low Mid, Mid, High Mid, High, and Synths Out. Then I take Synths In off the master, and left click route to every insert EXCEPT Synths Out. Then Low, Low Mid, and so on are routed to Synths Out. I then put fruity convolver on everything Low through High, pick the linear phase EQ preset on all of them (takes away the convolution reverb effect, leaving a great EQ for this) and just have low go from 0 to around 180 Hz, Low Mid go from 180 to like 450 and it goes on like that. I saved presets for each section of frequencies to save time too. With this method, you can place a limiter on the lower inserts and make kick sidechains, without the high stuff getting cut or place a snare sidechain on the mids the possibilities are endless. You can now mess with faders as a way of equalizing all the synths in your song, and tweak the stereo separation of each section easily as well. Probably best not to do while composing though. More of a giant puzzle near the end
@aeixo2533
@aeixo2533 4 жыл бұрын
Are there any other compressors, eg, multiband compressors that allow you to sidechain like the fruity limiter does? This might be a good option as you could compress only the frequencies that get on top of the kick/snare and leave the rest in the mix..
@Sukaichae
@Sukaichae 5 жыл бұрын
Automation clip : can be played by midi. My brain : blown.
@raharja.
@raharja. 5 жыл бұрын
i miss you doing remake :(
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