Absolutely! Been saying it for years. The pre-1930's boxers had different on guard stances and employed different strategies (clinching, inside fighting, and pseudo hand grappling) than post WWII boxers & modern boxers. They were downright impressive. I think Sam Langford is one of the most frightening boxers/fighters I've seen on film. Aside from ending his pro career with over 300 fights, I read that he used to fight bare knuckle on the side for extra money.

*These are what Dempsey should be known for* Casual fans of boxing or Anime viewers only know him for his signature move, the *_"Dempsey Roll"_*

Dempsey left home when he was very young and traveled from town to town living a tough existence as a transient. One way for him to make money was to challenge to fight anyone at the local bars, where money would be put on these bare-knuckle fights. It was a tough life but it was one that set the foundations for him to be the great champion he was.

Dempsey my favorite also. As an elderly man two thugs with a knife tried to mug him. Dempsey dropped dem both with body punches. He also boxed bareknuckle in Pittsburgh steel mill without breaking hands, before going pro as ring boxer with gloves. Boxer fractures common with boxers, like Tyson vs. Greene street fight, but Dempsey never broke a hand in bareknuckle fight or gloved bout using old school pugilist punch method.

Jack Dempsey is a legend! Love that someone finally had the balls to say he would’ve beat Gracie in UFC!!

Dempsey would smash the first UFC event he was a man of discipline and conviction that the UFC had not seen in those early days.

Love the great Jack Dempsey. No one tougher than that guy. I know a very lot about him by first reading his book and then by studying old fight films of his fights. The piece de resistance was actually meeting him and thereafter getting to know him. He was always available for a chat when he operated his restaurant near Times Square in NYC. He shunned no one. He was so pleasant and engaging that anyone eating there could have an informal audience with him. He would come up to you. Try engaging with any modern day celebrity and you'll have your face broken by one of their muscleheads.There were a couple of incidents in his restaurant where he had to be his own body guard. Guys wanted to see how they'd do against an ex-heavyweight champion of the world. Needless to say they didn't try it a second time.

Dempsey was a very intelligent fighter, and not only a slugger. I have this book.

I wonder what Ramsey Dewey thinks of Sugar Ray Robinson.

Though it would have been interesting to see Dempsey in modern day UFC, I would be even more intersted in seeing how other historical fighters would've fared - Champions of classical pugilism like Daniel Mendoza, Jack Slack, Jack broughton or even James Figg himself - Ancient olympians using Pankration

Dempsey was one of the greatest champions of all time. His destruction of Jesse Willard was one of the most brutal title fights ever. Willard lost teeth, broke ribs and went down multiple times. Tyson took a lot of Dempsey's front foot, aggressive attack approach, throwing fast, powerful combinations. I personally loved Joe Louis, beautifully skilled power puncher. We can learn from the older eras.

and in the early bare knuckle days, they also fenced either backsword, smallsword or both. modern boxing came from bare knuckle boxing which came directly from the use of the sword/weapons as do most old martial arts

I used to wrestle and you are right the best way to defend a grappler is to learn how to wrestle.

Awesome video! As you pointed out, most people today do not realize that boxers in the old days always cross trained, and even taught combat fighting systems to the Military. I was actually taught by one of them. My father. They not only knew how to punch and evade, they knew wrestling, throws, and fighting in the clinch. They had great understanding of position and angles. The whole point of fist fighting was in order that one could defend himself against another man proficiently. Thanks for the video and bringing up Dempsey. Even Iron Mike Tyson loved Dempsey’s explosive violence, and said he would be honored if anyone ever thought that he fought like Dempsey . He was one of a kind.

Thank you for this video. What is mindblowing for me that lots of people talk about crosstraining as if it some "new" thing. I started with aikido around 1995, and even at that time everyone was cross training. People did karate, judo, jujitsu, aikido, kempo, etc. together. There was not a single guy who did only a single style. There was a good sportsmanship and every style welcomed the other one. It was the good old times when most people were amateurs in the sense that they loved doing it and they wanted to be good at even when there was no opportunity practicing ma-s as a professional carrier. And most of the coaches were not only coaches but educators as well who taught the people how to be better persons through martial arts. I so miss those times.

Excellent Job Coach * * * * * Mike Tyson is a Boxing Historian, thanks to the influence of Cus D'Amato. Tyson studied and copied Jack Dempsey... Mike has Great Admiration for The Old School Hall of Fame Champions ! Thanks for Posting = very informative, and Interesting * * * * * True Paul D'

Finally someone talking about Dempsey in modern era fighting ❤! Top level fighters in ANY style would have a serious fight with Dempsey. You talk about his insane, explosive aggression! The man was extraordinarily violent....ANY fight with Dempsey would be extremely violent and the other person better come prepared for that level of violence.

I would have put my money on Jack in UFC 1 as well.

"Grayce tackle", the funniest part of it is that it is quite common to see street fighters that don't know anything about Jiu Jitsu or any tipe of Wrestling doing that, even so that the name used in Brazil to nominate such blow has nothing to do with the origens of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, it is "Baiana".

Hi Ramsey, thanks so much for shining a light on Jack Dempsey and his book. After your recommendation I bought the book last month, devoured the whole thing and learned so much from it. It was very inspiring, and I have begun to incorporate some of the book knowledge into my own fighting style. Having learned more about Jack Dempsey, I agree that he would have either won or done very well in UFC 1.

Hearing this man say someone is his favorite fighter regardless of style is a big deal. Note taken sir. I love these videos, you have helped me find direction in regards to how to evolve my fighting portfolio. Once I reach brown belt in karate I think I'll begin learning judo as well to get the balance I need between strikes and grappling. Osu!

You, sir, are amazing! You provide the most thorough martial arts content (that being about all aspects of fighting: physical, emotional, mental, spiritual). I could not be more inspired and motivated by your persona. I would love to have a question featured in a video- I have been practicing mostly striking arts for several years. I have never competed and I have never been exceptional in the gyms I was going to. Nowadays I teach kick-boxing classes as a form of charity work. I love it, but I often feel self-conscious about my level of experience, since there are people way better than me coming to my classes. My question is: do you have any tips on how I can be better coach? I wish you all the best and I don't believe- I know your popularity will skyrocket in the near future!

"Elbos in." echoes in my head every time you say wresting lol looking forward to more, thank you!

You may well have the most comprehensive back catalogue of all the martial arts channels on KZfaq. You literally have a video covering everything. Respect.

Excellent. Thankyou for this. 🙏🏻👊🏻

Machida and Silva have used a drop-step front kick to get knock outs, that reminded me of Dempsey.

Dempsey was a destroyer! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and analysis.

You want to defend against a wrestler? you learn wrestling..amen to that my friend

I love your *exhale*. If fighting was was all about Kiai, I think you'd be a UFC champion atleast.

Hi Ramsey I really enjoy your Dempsey videos! I did send you a question concerning his shoulder whirl via mail. Do you think you could do a video going a bit more into the details of his punching techniques?

I Wish Someday i could sit with you in my Backjard, with a cold beer and talk with you about Fighting Styles, Techniques and everything about this full contact chess game... Ramsey you are an inspiration for me! Thank you for that.

Appreciate your voice out in the world

You just blew my mind with Dempsey vs UFC 1

I could listen to you narrate any book or video all day long. Love your voice! Bruce Lee loved Dempsey!

That's why Bruce Lee and JKD was so good. His philosophy was to learn enough about the other person's style so that you could defend yourself or engage them long enough so that you could then exploit their weaknesses in other areas. You don't have to be the best at it as you say to defeat your opponent ...just good enough to neutralize them. Bruce Lee studied Dempsey as you know along with lots of other of the old boxers. Modern MMA owes a lot to Bruce Lee and his philosophy. He wasn't the 1st to mix fighting styles ...but he studied it intensely and pushed it forward. Wonder if you can do a video on defending yourself against a knife attack? Seems the cities are becoming more dangerous these days.

I didn't know Jack was a grappler too, shame he didn't include a chapter about grappling in his book. Still a good read anyway.

Hey man. Would you like more material that is stuff like old wrestling and boxing? Would be cool if you made some videos on what you think of the old timers like Mendoza and whatnot.

Have you every looked at the other older boxing manuals? I’d be curious what you think 😀

Ramsey could you please please please demonstrate the drop step from Jack dempsey's book I honestly don't know if I'm doing it right

plz make a video about how to train your legs for MMA

The background music is that of Cremerías Chalco.

Did I miss it? I thought Jack Dempsey’s book was longer. Ramsey, are you going to finish the book? I have trouble picturing what Jack Dempsey is talking about in some sections. A breakdown of the techniques as you read through it would be AMAZING! Keep up the great work and great channel!

I’m gonna come up with a fight promotion with old school boxing rules. Boxing with clinch fighting, wrestling takedowns, and ground fighting for 30 seconds like judo. That’s real fighting.

eyepokes and breaking fingers are a great defens against graplers

Bas Rutten even said this! He was a great striker but sucked on the ground, after being submitted twice he said decided to train his ass off grappling and look how good he became at submissions

A bit of a way out example of crossover is the Australian cricket team. The coach, Justin Langer, has a belt [I think it's a black belt] in karate. In his playing days Langer had an incredible level of pain tolerance. Once he played on for a few minutes with broken ribs. He played all his normal shots in that condition. So he is trying to make Australia into a mentally tougher cricket team. Because for all Australia's cricket ability they are a bit mentally weak. Yes I was right, Langer has sparred with name boxers in the past and "Langer (35) holds a black belt in the martial art Zen Du Kai and uses boxing as part of his regular fitness work in Perth." [from a news report in 2006]

Ramsey love your dry sense of humour and your sarcasm, but most importantly, you’re very factual 👍

Hello Ramsey; I understand to be a fighter you have to train everything but due to time constraints. I work long hours and have a young family. I can only afford to train one thing; would you recommend I train BJJ or wrestling?

Dempsey was a fucking legend. If you watch any modern boxer you can clearly see parts of their game that came from Jack Dempsey.

Jack Dempsey, and the style of boxing of his era, is what made me interested in modern shootboxing. There's more grappling in shootboxing than there was in his day, but that's okay, that's part of why I like it.

Hi Hi Coach, im just starting out, but, im looking for influences, you mention jack dempsey as your favorite fighter, who are some of your other favorite fighters and more importantly, why. btw i just ordered jack dempseys book, can you recommend more books? youre a smart, eloquent, knowledgeable individual, clearly with a good heart. i appreciate you and your channel.

"Boxing does not use kicks" You will hear that phrase from most mma fighters, trying to assert the dominance of mma over boxing. A minority of them knows how dangerous boxing is and most of them don't realize, boxing actually uses kicks. *Muhammad Ali, Jack Dempsey, Mike Tyson...* They all used kicks in their boxing. Negating "kicking the ground" factor just because "it's not directed to opponent's face" is what amateur would do. Boxers have strong legs, fast instincts, their developed shin muscles allow them for quick weight shifting. Their technique, combined with the explosive spring-like movement, allows them to both: close the distance fast and to take the explosiveness and transform it into a punch power. There were a lot of boxers who used kicking, and there are a lot now too, but if you guys out there think, that boxing doesn't use kicks, watch the matches of those 3 listed up above. *Edit* Here's a little story from my experience: My boxing trainer, he's an old man, in his mid sixties, former Europe champion. He's old, 1m60cm, weighs around 65kgs. I saw on my sparing day, how his son, a young man (looked like 30 years old or so) was forced to give money to 2 other men that looked of same age. Those men were big, atleast 2 heads higher than my trainer. Trainer told us to keep warming up, went outside himself and that tiny, dried up old man broke both their jaws with a simple one-two. His style, technique and experience gave him enough power to break 2 jaws in a lightning fast manner and those 2 were giants compared to him. Now, my trainer was not as great as Ali/Dempsey or Tyson in his prime, he isn't in his sixties too for sure, so I want you guys to think about 2 things: 1. How was this tiny, dried up old man able to do this. 2. Why are boxing gloves so much bigger and more shock absorbent compared to mma gloves. P.S. Ramsey, for me boxing is more than sports, it's a martial arts itself. Can you discuss boxing as a martial arts in your video?

I agree, Jack Dempsey would be favored vs Gracie do to bad take downs. But could Jack Dempsey stop Shamrocks take down skill? Could Shamrock keep him down? Very interesting video Ramsey Dewey!

Great video bro. What I think what screwed up the martial arts is that pure cobra commando self defense. They keep holding these weekend warrior seminars and try and teach people short cuts through the MMA.

Are you going to make a video on the World Bare Knuckle Fighting Federation? Bas Rutten is the new president. What are your thoughts on his Body Action System? It looks easier to set up than a punching bag.

Hey Ramsey I'm a big fan, and keep up the good wo rk. I miss the days where you would walk up awkwardly to the front of the camera to emphasize a point. Anyway, all that aside, I have one question. "I wish to get into training and sparring in MMA but I am severely overwhelmed with all the dieting that is involved. I would like to keep gaining muscle and have a good physique, but I have this worry that I will diet incorrectly and just become very skinny or too fat. I am completely lost here. Please help." And keep up the great work!

What are your thoughts on the falling step/jolt?

Hi Ramsey I have a question I am a 17 year old and I have never trained in any fighting style but I am interested in learning Kudo but can I get good enough to compete at a professional level

Are there kicks that you can incorporate the drop step movement into or a way to deliver kicks where weight of the body is assisting in power generation?

Ramsey, do you think that you could do tutorials of some of the moves that Dempsey talks about in his book? Especially the dropstep, I have had alot of problems getting that down.

Hey coach I have a question, their is a Saying out their that “if your not coming into a fight without some type of injury then you did not train hard enough”, ever since I was young I played many sports and played through some injuries. Now that I am older and I practice boxing and MMA and want to start my amateur fights soon. I want to protect my body but I also don’t want to become fragile and pull out the moment I have the smallest pain. Where do I draw the line with injury’s and pain tolerance? To tell myself that some injury’s I can’t just grit my teeth and work through. because i might be able to tolerate the pain, but I also might hurt myself worse and take years off my potential fighting career/ life. -Michael

Hey Ramsey, I've been watching your videos for a long time now and I'm always impressed by your content. Always sound, honest advice and I appreciate it. I am a former 2009 Isshinryu World Karate Champion but I no longer train just Karate. I compete in powerlifting now but I still shadow box and shadow wrestle at home and hit the bob dummy. I want to start a sparring club instead of joining an mma gym due to having to work alot and financial reasons. Should I be insured or use a waiver to protect myself legally? I only want a handful of dedicated training partners. I got the idea from the Dog brothers who seemed to have successfully started their own tribal stick fighting club. Any input will be very appreciated. Thank you!

Old school boxers knew that cross training had useful techniques that could be transferred over to boxing. Anyone know a Flip boxer named Flash Elorde? He trained knife fighting/eskrima and transferred it over to boxing, mostly the footwork.

jack wrote, "THE POWER LINE RUNS FROM EITHER SHOULDER-STRAIGHT DOWN THE LENGTH OF THE ARM TO THE FIST KNUCKLE OF THE LITTLE FINGER, when the fist is doubled. Remember: The power line ends in the fist knuckle of the little finger on either hand. Gaze upon your "pinky" with new respect. You might call that pinky knuckle the exit of your power line- the muzzle of your cannon." would this mean that one's powerline would down the leg out the pinky toe or does alignment of the toes change that? where does the powerline go when it comes elbow and knees?

Ramsey what about ali's footwork can it be converted into muay thai ? And im not talking about the ali shuffle i want to know if his back pedal /dancing around the rind would be effective for muay thai

Coach, how do you think a match between Marciano and Dempsey would turn out if both were in their prime?

Interesting.

Does one have to attend a Martial Arts teaching school to learn Martial Arts?... Stupid question, I know, but I would like to get an opinion if possible.. Thank you!

What do you think about Judo versus Jiujitsu or wrestling as far as anti grappling

My favourite boxers rocky marciano, jack Dempsey, Mike Tyson, ali, Larry Holmes, Tyson fury and Steve Collins wonder which boxer is your favourite Ramsey

You mentioned Jack Dempsey being able to win UFC 1, how do you think other pro fighters of different styles would have done in that event. I watched it again not long ago and most of the other fighters are brawlers or pros in smaller fight leagues. So if actual pros in bigger leagues with larger pools of talent competed how do you think that would have done? Especially with no weight classes? Could a high ranked heavy weight boxer have won if Royce couldn't get him down fast enough? Could a internationally ranked heavy weight judoka win, actually knowing many of the submissions Royce was going for? As with most fights it comes down to percentages so maybe Royce wins 80%/20% with boxers and 60%/40% with other grapplers. How do you think UFC 1 would have turned out if pro/olympic level athletes were interested in competing back then?

Remember dempsey was nearly 100 years ago and even more updated styles such as mike tyson styles has the same weaknesses

I don't think the idea of if you want to defend yourself against X then you need to learn how to do X yourself is entirely valid, for instance if you trained a boxer to be able to check kicks he's still a significant threat against a kickboxer even if he doesn't use kicks himself. You definitely need to understand how to defend yourself vs all four ranges of combat, but you don't necessarily have to threaten to use all four ranges of combat yourself as you see a lot of martial arts like Muay Thai (traditional version) circumvent punches by either staying out of the pocket with their kicking range or clinching to close the pocket or Sambo fighters just using the single leg takedown and overhand right mix up like Khabib without ever bothering to throw a kick. My point is, I think you can be a pretty good fighter by having a relatively narrow offense and what makes great fighters is their defensive knowledge of various offenses.

I think Jack Dempsey would have gotten his ass kicked in UFC 1 because I'm an internet commenter so I have to contradict you

What is that back ground sound

2:55 Is the circus in town? The melodies distracted me quite a bit :))

What's the difference between wrestling and bjj?🤔

I think you will find dempsy most likely was an exponent of queens berry boxing which the modern simulation of that would be american kickboxing actually BJJ is highly styled from JUDO as that was what old man gracie was trained in.. However here's a question in a street fight how often would you go to the ground with the full knowledge of mor than 1 attacker in sight for a fight..

You should look up classical pugilism. And look into another boxer named Roberto Duran if you haven't heard of him.

Despite being an amazing wrestler, Chuck Liddell used his wrestling primarily to keep fights on the feet. He could've won via wrestling if he put the energy into that, but instead, he decided to focus on wrestling defence in order to focus on explosive power and aggressive striking offense. When you're the better wrestler, you get to dictate if the fight's on the feet or on the ground. In some of Chuck's fights, it seems like his opponents only even bothered with wrestling, despite his seemingly supernatural ability to just stand back up out of takedowns, because Chuck's striking game was so much better than theirs that their only hope was to wrestle him.

I imagine Jack's style would be easy to incorporate into MMA considering he could threaten takedowns with it

The early UFC strikers were nothing like a Jack Dempsey...not even close. Gerard was the closest and was not K1 standard. Half the strikers were a sideshow comedy...the 9th Dan embeciles with obscure styles...maybe a hundred idolatous practitioners idolizing a charlaton. The guy with ONE glove...one for punching..one for grabbing. How hilarious it was. And where were the world champ Thai guys back then...not invited. And all these old school fighters that trained as kids at "The Y" Wrestled..Boxed and did old school Judo.

Currently reading Dempeys book...Championship fighting : Explosive punching and aggressive defense.....

You’re like the reportoftheweek of mma

Ramsey please answer my doubt. I have commented on your previous video

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Jack would have MAULED everyone in the first UFC. He probably would lose by the time Vitor Belfort came in with his 4oz gloves and steroids though lmao.

Jeez, you should be a voice actor..

Would andy hug do good in mma?

Doesn’t Mike Tyson use Dempsey roll?, just asking

Dempsey would have destroyed Gracie!!!!

Sir, Please adopt me.

Ramsey i sent the question long time. Hope u see

Thanks for your very informative videos, Ramsey! I just read Jack Dempsey’s book and I’m trying to get the hang of his jab, and the falling step. I’m practicing on a heavy bag and it feels really awkward. Do you have any pointers on it?

You have a beautiful voice. Try reading Shakespeare sometime. If you did this all the ladies would swoon. 💕💓♥️

Hi Ramsey. In your opinion do you think a striker wanting to learn takedown defence would be better learning wrestling or bjj?

At 3 mins that sound

Do you consider firearm training & use a martial art

But what about the most prominent counter to Dempsey's style, the anti anti anti Dempsey Roll

Don't forget, Conor's also not as good a boxer as the best boxers:^)