How to Attach a BELT to a Medieval Sword Scabbard: SIMPLE MODE!

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Жыл бұрын

A simple way that medieval belts were often attached to sword scabbards, with Zac Evans ( / zacevansjouster )
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@AmarothEng
@AmarothEng Жыл бұрын
It's also worth mentioning that as soon as you draw your sword, the scabbard is actually prone to being damaged by bending/breaking, especially if you say accidentally step or fall on it, which can happen easily in a fight. So, in scenarios like a duel or a tournament, it's very much possible people would prefer to not keep the scabbards permanently on their belts.
@asahearts1
@asahearts1 Жыл бұрын
Seems like it would just be in the way anyway tbh
@adambielen8996
@adambielen8996 Жыл бұрын
That is a very good point. In those scenarios the combatant's seconds or retainers would just hold the scabbarded sword and offer the weapon when it's about to start.
@airnt
@airnt Жыл бұрын
this issue is much less with vertical carry than horizontal carry. a broken scabbard is also seen on the Ceasar tapestries, which shows it was a known phenomenon in the period.
@user-ve5ei2xe8h
@user-ve5ei2xe8h Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the 1-point-sling; 2-point-sling: 3-point-sling; rhodesian-sling; etc. discussion that we have today: the vast mayority of people propably used the cheapest/most simple option aviable (2-point-sling in todays scenario). And the rest were specialized sollutions that some people would go for.
@matthewwilliams5407
@matthewwilliams5407 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. This’ll be useful when I’m sent to another world.
@Jim58223
@Jim58223 Жыл бұрын
Imagine Isekai'ed Matt Easton.
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita Жыл бұрын
@@Jim58223 i imagined isekaied Metatron tho.
@FellsApprentice
@FellsApprentice Жыл бұрын
@@Jim58223 it'd be the worst thing Truck-kun ever did.
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions Жыл бұрын
@@Jim58223 I know I'm not the only one seeing a post-Truck Easton walking around a generic isekai world complaining about all the sloppy anachronisms.
@tcschenks
@tcschenks Жыл бұрын
Actually this is very useful. I have bought replica swords before with no idea how to connect the (beltless) scabbards to a belt.
@oxfordweddingpiper
@oxfordweddingpiper Жыл бұрын
Have a look at Tod Cutlers' Channel he shows how to attach a belt to a plain sword a lot more clearly
@tcschenks
@tcschenks Жыл бұрын
This was pretty clear. I can only watch so many videos on the same subject.
@WillyShakes
@WillyShakes Жыл бұрын
There seems to be a shift in sword belts around 1310-1330. Prior to this, from say 1100-1300 swords seem to be interlaced with a belt. There are a lot of depictions of belts around the surcoat, and a separate sword belt. When the sword is removed, the sword belt is wrapped around the scabbard. (Ex: Heinrich von Hessen's memorial c1298) However, around 1320-1330 the scabbards appear to be tied to the belt in a way that the ties can quickly be removed, or they are clasped to the belt with brass or other fittings. The Fitzralph, de Creke, and de Bacon brasses are notable for showing this transition. Then they transition into the placque belts, before finally being superseded by the more simple belts like you've shown in your video - around 1410-1420. (ex: Sir John Erpingham brass) I refer only to brasses though, and there are no brasses of common soldier kits so, this is only a slice of a larger pie for what I described.
@airnt
@airnt Жыл бұрын
this usually also means the earlier style is worn a little further forward on the person and slightly higher relative to their hip joint, this means the sword is wrapped a little around the person behind their shield. Later shield designs are curved in a different way allowing access to the swrod in a different way, affeting the choice of suspension. hilt design can also make a big difference, with the grips becoming longer and being more in the way if worn more diagonally especially when interacting with other weapons, rein arm or shields.
@longrider42
@longrider42 Жыл бұрын
I've made Baldrics for all my swords, well all four of them. I find that is a easy way to carry them, plus easy to remove when sitting down.
@valandil7454
@valandil7454 Жыл бұрын
My latest longsword came with a beautiful black leather wrapped, wood cored scabbard but no belt. I tried to fit it in a weapon frog but it was too thin for the buckles, so I ended up using belts like that too, risers would make it a lot more secure though, future reference 🙂
@andreweden9405
@andreweden9405 Жыл бұрын
First!...? I had a scabbard made for my Albion "Burgundian" by the Idaho-based maker Christian Fletcher. It may not be period-correct for a late 15th century sword, but I just decided to keep things simple, and had him make it with a baldric.😁
@The_Mad_King
@The_Mad_King Жыл бұрын
Matt. Your armor is just beautiful. I really wish I had a set like that. I have full maille in crusader’s style but it’s just the basics with maille leggings and gauntlets and coif. I have not progressed to the metal plate in any form yet so it’s next on my list. I have been researching the styles through the years but yours has my eye like a teenage boy looking at a super car
@b-beale1931
@b-beale1931 Жыл бұрын
One thing about earlier periods like the Roman and early medieval swords being mounted on a shoulder strap with the hilt around nipple height and the scabbard vertical and held in against the side by the belt. And how that changes the drawing of it
@adambielen8996
@adambielen8996 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you'd pretty much draw it straight up. Very convenient in tight formations of infantry.
@titanscerw
@titanscerw Жыл бұрын
Awesome way Zac! Thank you Matt for bringing this up and sharing with us.
@kingmaker2865
@kingmaker2865 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys. Will be trialling your belt knot at tewkesbury. Simple can be so effective. Keep up the good work.
@thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168
@thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168 Жыл бұрын
It's something I've thought about before, but I think that reenactment/HEMA/living history unintentionally selects people who have more disposable income than would be typical for the lifestyle that we are trying to recreate. I think it would be really interesting to see someone assemble historical kit on an approximation of a period budget and explore what that would actually end up looking like.
@williampanagopoulos656
@williampanagopoulos656 Жыл бұрын
Or just being a reenactor who is at a low income The issue with that is... we dont have the guild industry of scabbard makers, cutlers, beltmakers (ok we have beltmakers) In the modern world, we have a couple of dozen people making scabbards worldwide .. ..unless its hanwei, deepeka, windlass etc who are making their swords with scabbards.. So the economy of scale, the ubiquitousness of expertise is completely off and completely wonky.. So any comparison wouldnt work.. But the difference is that people of the time bought these as proper.. life expenses, if that makes sense... and also the law stratified the required gear so that poorer people wernt bankrupted trying to buy a suit of armour, but instead just had to bring, say a bow, 24 arrows and a sword.
@airnt
@airnt Жыл бұрын
supply of this equipment was largely done centrally for poorer people (like cities or endentured people.) so any sword you might get would still probably have a scabbard, and many people never paid for some of their own equipment. in actual practice, re-enactors are largely very poor people, actually. and personal production is often replacing monetary expendature. i myself managed to become a jouster, with my own horse and full armour etc (and tents) on an income of 10.000€ per annum around 2004, living in the Netherlands. (that is well below mean income and well below the poverty line for that year, and that income level persisted for roughly 9 years, in case you think i was using money saved up)
@williampanagopoulos656
@williampanagopoulos656 Жыл бұрын
@@airnt and as mentioned poorer people had to bring less stuff
@airnt
@airnt Жыл бұрын
@@williampanagopoulos656 the point is that they were probably pretty well equipped. nearly everyone had a decent helmet, nearly everyone had some sword or messer, they all haad a primaary weapon and by far the most had torso protection. muster rolls exist of english, french and german armies, and soldier are often classified (for pay purposes) by their equipment. so we have minima for each of those. in the Burgundian army they are the most explicit so even the town militias we know what they wore and we know how many were picked up on being under equipped and we know that basically all had these basic items and a significant part had a lot more. having 20+% men-at-arms (German) to 30% (French) or 20% men-at-arms or coustilliers (Burgundian) +(30% mounted archers and 10% mounted valets and crssbowmen being largely mounted in many occasions too) is well established for 15th century armies. Fredrick the Victorious rides ahead with his vanguard and sort out the whole campaign on one occasion with roughly 4000 mounted men, about 2/3rd men-at-arms and 1/3 mounted crossbowmen.. yet he equips the men at arms with crossbows too, on the fly. (that is several thousand crossbows coming from somewwhere) so a lot of things were supplied, so perhaps the poorer people didn't always bring it themselves, if that is what you mean.
@williampanagopoulos656
@williampanagopoulos656 Жыл бұрын
@@airnt i was thinking of the english assizes of arms of.. 1138? And 1218? and the scandinavian leidang laws also from the 12th century i believe
@matihughes1345
@matihughes1345 8 ай бұрын
I bought and modified a 2-handed Xiphos (made it lighter so that I can wield it one handed) that came with a cheap sheath so I hand crafted a wooden scabbard for it. This video really helped me a lot to figure out how to add a belt to it and saved me a lot of money trying to add a bunch of unnecessary things to hold it in place.
@incitatusrecordings473
@incitatusrecordings473 Жыл бұрын
Good information! I had no clue about scabards and belts untill now lol
@erumaaro6060
@erumaaro6060 Жыл бұрын
Simplicity has a beauty of it's own.
@bobrank3291
@bobrank3291 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, my Windlass Wakefield Hanger now has a Medieval Belt from Poland attached.
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 Жыл бұрын
That is fascinating. Thank you.
@Dave-ks9fi
@Dave-ks9fi Жыл бұрын
The real question is how to wear a buckler? I've driven myself up the wall looking for the best solution in contemporary art.
@will2777
@will2777 Жыл бұрын
I'm fairly certain that's it's usually just set on the sword handle
@Glimmlampe1982
@Glimmlampe1982 Жыл бұрын
I think I've seen pictures with hooks on the scabbards, maybe for bucklers
@Dave-ks9fi
@Dave-ks9fi Жыл бұрын
@@Glimmlampe1982 they don't stay straight unless you hold the sword while walking.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 Жыл бұрын
While from a different creator, this is a take on that topic. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7OAnNCgrLOzfWg.html
@epifloyd7357
@epifloyd7357 Жыл бұрын
@@will2777 I can't fit my buckler over any of my sword handles
@lusolad
@lusolad Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video.
@will2777
@will2777 Жыл бұрын
Tod also has a very good video on how to knot sword belts, including simple knots for one handed swords kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mK58m5aHtq3WeH0.html
@MrShadeofMyself
@MrShadeofMyself Жыл бұрын
Same goes for japanese Swords. Tuck them into the Sash while in Armour is annoying and uncomfortable so the way to do it is to take the Sageo (Sword Band) form two loops over the Saya with a bit of space and then tie it to your hips. The space between the loops decides how it will hang. And of course there are also more complex helpers to achieve the same but thats one way to do it.
@robinswords
@robinswords Жыл бұрын
I'm partial to using a cat's paw knot on my katzbalger to get it hanging horizontally on account of that big beefy figure-8 guard. It also just feels very appropriate given the names
Жыл бұрын
About dozens of different belt knots for attaching a scabbard - nowadays we have dozens of different necktie / cravat knots. I eagerly wait for the video showing different belt knots. I do wonder how Polish saber was attached to the wide kontush belt (kontush sash)... though this is from a later period.
@danspragens4935
@danspragens4935 Жыл бұрын
Tod (on his Tod's Workshop channel, if you don't know it) also did a few videos on scabbards/belts, even one with Matt IIRC. That's another good resource on belt knots.
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE Жыл бұрын
Good video ⚔️
@walkergrae
@walkergrae Жыл бұрын
I use a clove hitch, sometimes a constrictor or very rarely a strangle knot for attaching my scabbard. Clove hitch gives a slight tilt and easier to remove. Constrictor holds vertically and tight. Strangle gives a more tilt and holds tight. All three knots are similar with just two turns around the scabbard or whatever you're attaching.
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 Жыл бұрын
belts were also used to carry a lot of other things before pockets were invented
@kilianortmann9979
@kilianortmann9979 Жыл бұрын
0:35 a wild Drachinifel appears.
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 Жыл бұрын
imagine how will these belt attachment methods go along with modern clothing and lifestyle
@uncleheavy6819
@uncleheavy6819 Жыл бұрын
The simplest knot for attaching a scabbard would be a clove hitch.
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 Жыл бұрын
You didn't get back to the practice of cutting slits in the sheath's leather cover to pass a belt through. Seems to me that would kind of make that belt a dedicated sword belt given Tod Cutler's video on how to do it showing it to be somewhat tedious for an everyday activity, but it would be nice to have my suspicions verified. Otherwise excellent explanation of why it's okay to hang one's sword pretty much any way one wants, taking into account whether one is walking or riding etc. I expect you'll do more videos on which methods went in and out of fashion at different times and In different places? Please?
@paulgroth3345
@paulgroth3345 Жыл бұрын
If you have a look in Ashley's book of knots you will find a clinch knot which is very effective but hard to get undone but it does not move or a simple clove hitch seems it would do the thing
@DrVictorVasconcelos
@DrVictorVasconcelos Жыл бұрын
About people carrying their swords on their hands, I found that with my katana I could just position it inside my belt and it would hang diagonally. So they wouldn't even need to make a knot, if they just needed the belt to hold it temporarily. This was with a wider belt, but I imagine it would work.
@_Michiel_
@_Michiel_ Жыл бұрын
Well, that gives a new insight in the phrase : "how is it hanging?"
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
Honestly unless one is traveling, going to war or has another specific need to wear a sword carrying a sword in the hand has a lot of advantages. Not tripping or hitting others, ease of getting in doors or sitting down, the scabbard can be used for a parrying stick if needed and if in hand is ready to go. Etc This is especially true of longer swords.
@junichiroyamashita
@junichiroyamashita Жыл бұрын
Why not hang a sword on a walking staff?
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
@@junichiroyamashita I suppose one could. I've never thought to but I don't see any reasons one couldn't. Maybe when I'm done being sick I'll make a vid trying it.
@epifloyd7357
@epifloyd7357 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly one of fiore's plays involved smashing the scabbard into your opponent's face as you draw, and for this to be possible one must be carrying the scabbard in hand.
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145
@asa-punkatsouthvinland7145 Жыл бұрын
@@epifloyd7357 I believe so. I also believe Fiore recommends carrying sword in hand when in a town/city, using the scabbard to bind an opponents weapon then drawing the sword
@lalli8152
@lalli8152 Жыл бұрын
@@epifloyd7357 I think the guy was sitting down, and he was suddenly attacked, and he was just holding the sword. If i remember it correctly he could have removed his sword for convenience when sitting down. It really in many of these belt setups would be fast to remove, and put on how is just best at that moment.
@BCSchmerker
@BCSchmerker Жыл бұрын
+scholagladiatoria *Scabbards can be crafted to fit any sword, dagger, &c.* A belt to running-fit the hip should have enough slack for a leather-over-wood dagger scabbard in vertical waist carry.
@nicktrueman224
@nicktrueman224 4 ай бұрын
Sabre for me anyway is better seated on a angle as the vertical hang gets in the way of the legs. 17thc Hungarian and Polish hussar but pre brass trimmed plate which is really late. The Palasz or konczerc / estoc is attached too the horse tac.
@paradoxworkshop4659
@paradoxworkshop4659 Жыл бұрын
I'm knot convinced.
@rogerlafrance6355
@rogerlafrance6355 Жыл бұрын
Hard to know about knights in full armour as they had their mount and attendants to carry most. Day to day, they, baliffs, sheriffs and such, would also have a purse, dagger and other items on a belt before pockets.
@leeisaac5716
@leeisaac5716 Жыл бұрын
another great video; though just slightly surprised you didnt give Todd a quick shout out as a reference on the subject
@lancerd4934
@lancerd4934 Жыл бұрын
What I find curious is that a lot of the artwork consistently shows sword belts hanging very low, and very loosely, but with no visible way of staying up. Any idea how people kept their extremely loose sword belt with 2-3lb of steel hanging off it from falling down around their ankles?
@GraveFiller613
@GraveFiller613 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a clove hitch
@Tommiart
@Tommiart Жыл бұрын
I think Todd has done a video on types of knots/hitches...might be collab time again 😀
@Dragonamg2
@Dragonamg2 Жыл бұрын
How was Jason’s belt attached to his sword in the short video he did on belts?
@RHampton
@RHampton Жыл бұрын
At last you have answered the age old question..."How's it hanging?"
@edi9892
@edi9892 Жыл бұрын
How about the lazy method? Tug it into your belt or sash? I haven't seen any historical depictions of it in the West, but I'm sure that it must have been done at least occasionally with shorter blades, especially knives and daggers... Also, how often were swords taken on and off? For one, it can be quite inconvenient to carry a full-sized sword every day. It may be restricted carry in certain places (cities, inns, churches, royal courts, etc.) and then there's the dilemma of carrying additional clothing. I know it's not quite historical, but for simplicities sake: imagine that you attach your sword to your belt and then go out and notice you need a coat. This restricts your access to the items on your belt and if you close your coat it will be even more restricted to the point that you need to remove your belt and put it above the coat! That's certainly one thing where cloaks are superior, but then again, tunics, etc. have been worn and if you need to add or remove a layer, this can become quite a nuisance, especially if you're doing it often... Plus, the belt might also have the dagger, a knife, your purse, a fire kit, some other trinkets, perhaps a pistol (end of middle ages)... and you might also wear a water container in addition to your belt and later also a musket. All this gets in the way of removing a layer...
@FinktheMink
@FinktheMink 10 ай бұрын
7:59 MY MANS IS CAKED UPPPP WTFFF
@robertgross1655
@robertgross1655 Жыл бұрын
🎩Hi when I was doing re-enactment stuff many years ago I used to wear a baldrick for my sword. Which ment I could just throw the whole thing off if I needed to. Ie as in pike blocks.
@texasbeast239
@texasbeast239 Жыл бұрын
My favorite D&D characters cobble together their best gear from different adventures over a prolonged period of time, which is a big part of the fun, so there is little incentive to buy a complete, pretty set to start. Get what you need as a bare minimum to begin, with the full expectation that you will upgrade individual pieces as you go along. The end result will look hodgepodge, but the overall kit will have sentimental value because you found it and chose those pieces yourself, rather than just forking over gold pieces for someone else to sell you what they chose to design and make available at the time.
@snacks1184
@snacks1184 Жыл бұрын
I may try this with my 5th to 11th century swords.
@ducomaritiem7160
@ducomaritiem7160 Жыл бұрын
I was knot amused.
@jeremy4655
@jeremy4655 Жыл бұрын
Interesting thanks :) When did the simple note end as a way of wearing a sword? It would be interesting to see the evolution of belts and notes.
@thechroniclesofthegnostic7107
@thechroniclesofthegnostic7107 Жыл бұрын
It's just like "fashion" (even when functional fashion) today and across cultures and times. One: whatever works, works, and people aren't always so "precious" as to care. While the more aristocratic and powerful are the type who *sometimes* want all the bells and whistles, not only are they sometimes the ones who don't--they're the very ones privileged enough... not to care. 😉 Which then, paradoxically, sometimes even ends up in swings of fashion where the elitist/upscale *is* the simple/minimalist, while the gauche/maximalist becomes the sign of the vulgar/common. 😜 "And the wheel goes round and round and round..."
@LuxisAlukard
@LuxisAlukard Жыл бұрын
How ever you attach it - don't put it on your back! P.S. Matt, would you review bar fight scene with swords (and swords themselves) from movie "The Krays" (1990)?
@peterbrazukas7771
@peterbrazukas7771 Жыл бұрын
Shad would disagree
@Eulemunin
@Eulemunin Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of hanging a spirit rigged yard.
@airnt
@airnt Жыл бұрын
I must vehemently disagree that vertical carry is annoying in close formation. In fact quite the opposite. especially knee in knee (as opposed to stirrup to stirrup) you don't want anybody with a diagonal carry. the sword hanging down the leg is fine, or hanging stright down just behind the hip is also fine. also longswords are actually seen vertically quite a lot, look at the Wolfegger Hausbuch, where nearly everyone has a sword hanging straaight down. In Flemish and German art the shorter swords are more likely to be carried horizontal or diagonal, in particular very short messers.
@ZacharyEvans
@ZacharyEvans Жыл бұрын
I must admit this is just personal experience on my part. I have seen a horse being prodded and bothered very heavily by a scabbard hanging incorrectly that ruined a whole display.
@airnt
@airnt Жыл бұрын
@@ZacharyEvans yes, me too, very much so. in fact all of those were diaagonal carry, dozens of times!
@eatman6511
@eatman6511 3 ай бұрын
Do you think this belt method is more effective than a sword frog? Curious on your professional opinion. Thank you. Wonder film. The Lord bless you.
@thecrowrains
@thecrowrains Жыл бұрын
Apologies way off topic, but curious to know if you've tried throwing spears with the North American Indigenous Peoples "Atl-Atl" spear launch device? It's quite ingenious; thought you might enjoy delving into it seeing as your other great videos offered discussions on the Indigenous Peoples use of the Tomahawk. Thanks, Eric.
@MarcRitzMD
@MarcRitzMD Жыл бұрын
If you keep it dangling that loosely, then you can also reallyy use it as a back scabbard.
@James44789
@James44789 8 ай бұрын
Might be a stupid question because it does depend on an individual’s size, but how long or how much extra length do you want in a medieval say 15th century sword belt?
@DrVictorVasconcelos
@DrVictorVasconcelos Жыл бұрын
If this is anything like shoelaces, there will be a website with all kinds of stats about the knots. But it's probably not like shoelaces, most people have shoelaces, whereas not even most people who like swords do knots on their belts.
@MarcRitzMD
@MarcRitzMD Жыл бұрын
Swords are easy. How did they keep their socks up without elastic fabric
@jaredbaker7230
@jaredbaker7230 Жыл бұрын
So for earlier scabbards, is it the angle of the dangle or the belt of the Celt?
@ghoulishgoober3122
@ghoulishgoober3122 Жыл бұрын
Got a question: What kinda messer do you guys think would be ideal to carry/you would be able to carry it (in most places)? I'm thinking the ones that are kinda like fat Bowie knives.
@danspragens4935
@danspragens4935 Жыл бұрын
On the fat Bowie front, I was seeing Skallagrim using a Landsknecht Emporium Gustav in his "Sickle to the Face" video from a few days ago. Looks like it would fit the bill.
@needleknight
@needleknight 5 ай бұрын
Where is the Pinterest link to the sword belt images? Thank you!
@doctorpopcorn6051
@doctorpopcorn6051 Жыл бұрын
Where did you two get your belts?
@troy2286
@troy2286 Ай бұрын
Where did you get those belts?
@allmachtsdaggl5109
@allmachtsdaggl5109 Жыл бұрын
In the Shot at 0:35 is that Drach on Nicholas' right side?
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria Жыл бұрын
Yes, Drach trains in my HEMA club and we are mates. I'm seeing him on Friday :-P
@bigsiege1848
@bigsiege1848 Жыл бұрын
in art, are belts attached easily because it's easy to draw easy knots?
@karlsenula9495
@karlsenula9495 6 ай бұрын
How common were frogs?
@aristoteliskoskinas1172
@aristoteliskoskinas1172 Жыл бұрын
Wait a minute....Did I see Drachfinel in your group of reenactors?
@ZacharyEvans
@ZacharyEvans Жыл бұрын
You did. There's an interview with him on my channel.
@asahearts1
@asahearts1 Жыл бұрын
7:57 DONK
@ishitrealbad3039
@ishitrealbad3039 Жыл бұрын
where can you buy these belts?
@ZacharyEvans
@ZacharyEvans Жыл бұрын
I usually get mine from Tod's Workshop. Worth getting one with a steel tongue, even if the buckle is brass.
@ishitrealbad3039
@ishitrealbad3039 Жыл бұрын
@@ZacharyEvans i looked at didn't find any leather straps. found a different site though, but thank you!
@jaredbaker7230
@jaredbaker7230 Жыл бұрын
Is it acceptable at living history and reenactment events to ask "how's it hanging?"
@felixargyle9650
@felixargyle9650 13 күн бұрын
5:20
@mysticmarbles
@mysticmarbles Жыл бұрын
You need quite a long belt for these knots. I don’t think I'd be using the same belt from my street clothes. 😉
@scholagladiatoria
@scholagladiatoria Жыл бұрын
In fact it was normal to have a long end to the strap hanging down in front, so that it not a problem at all. Zac and I literally do use the same belt for both and it is historically normal.
@mysticmarbles
@mysticmarbles Жыл бұрын
@@scholagladiatoria Fair enough. I used this knot and it required a belt that hangs down to my shins. I guess some people must have worn a belt that long but it seems rather silly, even for the time period. Do you think they wore belts that long specifically incase they needed to tie a scabbard to it?
@ZacharyEvans
@ZacharyEvans Жыл бұрын
@@mysticmarbles Thinner belts need less length. As they wrap around themselves, the thicker your belt the longer it needs to be.
@mysticmarbles
@mysticmarbles Жыл бұрын
@@ZacharyEvans I know. I make scabbards and I typically use something around 5/8 inch for knots like these. The knot still up takes around 16-22 inch of belt depending on the scabbard width. That's a lot of floppy leather hanging around your knees if you choose to wear it without the sword but I guess that's how they rolled.
@vyr01
@vyr01 Жыл бұрын
how about with just an leather scabbard, no wood core/lining/stiffener ?
@ZacharyEvans
@ZacharyEvans Жыл бұрын
There seems to be very little evidence for pure leather scabbards. Historically they seemed to fall over on their scabbards less than the modern re-enactor, and if they did then they had more to worry about than breaking a scabbard...
@vyr01
@vyr01 Жыл бұрын
@@ZacharyEvans Thanks
@keithrhodes7386
@keithrhodes7386 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Matt. The knot reminded me a lot those shown in a video that Tod Cutler did a couple of years ago. Belts to make your scabbard wearable: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mK58m5aHtq3WeH0.html
@charlottewalnut3118
@charlottewalnut3118 Жыл бұрын
I’m using a frog looks better and makes it less needed to have a super long belt
@MarcRitzMD
@MarcRitzMD Жыл бұрын
Even a slipknot would probably work with leather
@kennetth1389
@kennetth1389 Жыл бұрын
Huh... So we were right all those years ago in the SCA. Just tying our live steel to our garb.
@MarcRitzMD
@MarcRitzMD Жыл бұрын
Only 15 minutes?!
@AndreasMarx
@AndreasMarx Жыл бұрын
The "black belt on black scabbard" part could have benefitted a lot from manually setting the exposure, so you're not depending on the camera deciding whether it wants to show the scabbard, or the relatively bright background.
@harrykouwen1426
@harrykouwen1426 Жыл бұрын
Constrictor knot, half knot, Slipknot
@oldschooljeremy8124
@oldschooljeremy8124 Жыл бұрын
You wouldn't want to bash people with the end of your thing, no. 😏
@arnijulian6241
@arnijulian6241 Жыл бұрын
Matt the knot your friend did is an (enclosed backhand hitch)! It is the bases for a bunch of mooring, winching, climbing & tugging knots. Not authentic for try sitting doing most daily tasks with a fixed load not on a sheath/scabbard. You think every tom dick & harry used a sailing/climbing knot back then? Perhaps a few but not likely as why wouldthey use a securing knot! If you want to know why most of the art shows no knot visible it's because they often didn't use any for sword sheaths. What they did was rivet or sew a strip in the back of the sheath as a pass to feed any belt through. A sword belt is nonsense because most just used an everyday ordinary belt found in the Middle Ages! If knots were used on a belt, it was normally some decorative split or nonsplit wrap weave followed by a flat stopper or passing back long weave of some kind. Basically, lacing! You have very simple laces & you have 1's that are overly complex for aesthetics with it all being personal taste! You look at all these effigies, but you think a peasant or common levy even owned a leather belt? They just used a bit of cord & if you want a better idea of how sheaths are suspended from the waist look up cordage strung scabbards. will give a lot better idea!
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