How to avoid RV "Hitch Collapsing" frame failure - 2 tips from a tech!

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Күн бұрын

Hitch collapsing is a type of frame failure on travel trailers. In today's video I'm going to be answering the following questions about RV frame "hitch collapsing":
- What is RV hitch collapsing?
- What causes this type of frame failure?
- Could RVs be built in such a way that prevents this failure?
- How do I avoid RV hitch collapsing on my travel trailer?
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@dannydaugherty527
@dannydaugherty527 Ай бұрын
back in the day, my grandfather got a weight distribution hitch from reese hitch, they told him the best way to use this was to, measure the rear bumper, hook up the trailer, measure the bumper in the same spot, then put enough tension on the bars that the bumper was two inches lower than the regular ride height, anything less than two inches there would be too much pressure on the hitch, they put many miles on their trailer with no problems, I watch these videos and the people hooking the hitch up are trying to get the truck to set level, and in my book it's asking for trouble, I used a distribution hitch when I was racing that was rated at 6000 pounds, and had no issues no matter what the angle, and my trailer and car was around 4-5000 pounds, and I would put all the success on the measuring of the bumper
@jameshibbard2963
@jameshibbard2963 25 күн бұрын
5:51 I you stop in the middle of a Interstate Highway construction zone to drop your bars, and the commercial traffic on that road are going to make it worst that the broke trailer!
@steveboyd582
@steveboyd582 Ай бұрын
Explained very well. That's why I have a dually. Very stable, no matter if I'm pulling my 8,000 lb travel trailer or my 18,500 lb 5th wheel.
@randomspirit
@randomspirit 22 күн бұрын
Best video on this topic that I've seen in 3 years of watching RV videos!
@oldengineer1519
@oldengineer1519 25 күн бұрын
I've always used equalizer style hitches. I contact the hitch manufacturer before buying the trailer and hitch for that trailer. I trust their recommendation more than a dealer who will sell you an oversized hitch because that is what they keep in stock. In addition to your remarks about sharp approach angles people need to learn to slow down when towing on rough or uneven surfaces. Also the sharp angle doesn't necessarily mean a hill but is equally possible to be caused by a large pothole. By going slower you have time to adjust your approach angle or ability to avoid areas that would put excessive force on the trailer frame.
@LeonTroutskiunplugged
@LeonTroutskiunplugged Ай бұрын
As someone who has yet to tow a TT, even I understood this. Well presented.
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@lkj0822g
@lkj0822g 28 күн бұрын
Several issues coming into play here creating a "perfect storm" for a bad day: 1. Camper manufacturers using cheaper, lighter, thinner materials for their frames. 2. Truck manufacturers have been increasing the towing capacity of their light duty trucks for the past twenty years or so. A lot of this increased capacity is due to improvements in the transmission, not the suspension. 3. Consumers who are wanting more and more and more features in their campers, all of which add weight. Of those three, if I had to point to a main culprit, it would be the manufacturers using flimsy materials in their frames. Well, that and the quality of build. I've seen some welds on some of these campers that would make a buzzard puke. Monkeys with MIGS could probably weld a better frame.
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech 28 күн бұрын
:-) Yes, I agree there are many contributing factors. All of which I think people can work around if they understand the design and limitations. Thanks for watching!
@brudermax7
@brudermax7 18 күн бұрын
excellent info!!! of all i've watched, this info was never covered. I will pay more attention to severe dips, which can occur just getting into some gas station parking lots on the road. Thanks!!!
@BigTruckBigRV
@BigTruckBigRV Ай бұрын
Awesome video brother.
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@evanmartin7809
@evanmartin7809 Ай бұрын
Excellent explanation. I think there are probably a few trailers that ARE built a little lighter than they should be, but it's not a widespread problem. I see way too many people with the "bigger is better" mindset buying 12k or 15k WD hitches for a 5k or 6k trailer.
@chaosncheckt9356
@chaosncheckt9356 Ай бұрын
Interesting video. We tow a small tear drop and our first tow vehicle was a Jeep Grand Cherokee. Great video, and auto leveling so whenever we hooked the trailer, the Jeep auto leveled to give us a even ride. Moved on to a Ford F150 and obviously sits a bit higher. No auto leveling but the Ford handles the tear drop without issue. We keep the tear drop tongue weight as light as possible and watch what we load into the bed of the truck. When loaded for a very long (months long trips) I see a very slight downward V angle between the truck and trailer. It's not enough for me to worry about, I don't think it's worth the money to invest in a new hitch, but I have thought about adding aftermarket air suspension on the truck to inflate maybe 10-20lbs to just give it a bit more lift.
@AskRemy
@AskRemy 15 күн бұрын
yes, stop traffic to pull over where there is no space to pull over and disconnect your stabilizers - makes sense to me
@anthonyshriner4362
@anthonyshriner4362 Ай бұрын
Thanks for all the great information…subscribed I have a question. I’m in the market for an Rv. I travel for my work. I’m looking for something comfortable and well built. I’m currently looking at the riverstone, for the insulation and robust frame, for a fifth wheel. Also looking at the outdoors 280 model travel trailer. My two options. Can you give any advice or opinions on these two brands. And yes, work takes me to extreme cold…I mean sometimes-40, to highs around 90. Thanks a lot in advance
@jimcollins8097
@jimcollins8097 Ай бұрын
I ordered some long narrow square u bolts and mounted a 3' long piece of square tubing on the bottom of 2 v frame members, centered at the frame headwall.
@awesome12q
@awesome12q Ай бұрын
Sorry, but no. Weaker is not better and this never used to happen. If 200 pounds of additional weight for a stronger frame causes this then it is the wrong answer. And no, I'm NOT going to be removing the equalizer to pull into that McDonalds, this stuff should just work. I have to disagree with you on this one, and I once had a job where I was towing a 22 foot box trailer around 15k miles per year. This is just a excuse to use a smaller tow vehicle than you really need and is bad in a dozen other ways too.
@RedneckVR1
@RedneckVR1 Ай бұрын
Id love to hear your opinion on a BP conversion hitch. It converts a Bumper pull into a gooseneck. Bolts on to the frame just like a WDH
@marcusdibenedetto7958
@marcusdibenedetto7958 18 күн бұрын
Great video. Thank you. When I purchased my 2018 Airstream International trailer (28 feet long and 7,600 pound GVWR) the dealer installed a Blu Ox hitch with what they called anti sway bars. Is this the same as a weight distribution hitch? Our tow vehicle is now a 2024 Silverado 3500 (single rear wheel).
@timhammond691
@timhammond691 Ай бұрын
Very good video and easy to understand. I went with my brother-in-law to pick up his new fifth wheel and while he was being shown the operation of his new camper, I observed the dealer employees moving various campers around the lot. I was concerned when they were using a fork truck to move fifth wheels around in that they were making very sharp turns to get the camper aligned with other units. I noticed the wheels having been pushed sideways and steep angles as the camper was moved. I didn't think about the spring hangers and I beams being twisted and stressed. Thanks for the info.
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Yep, I've seen that. The repair shop lots are packed so full that doesn't surprise me.
@TheMonkdad
@TheMonkdad 21 күн бұрын
I can’t imagine stopping in the middle of a busy road or in a construction zone to unload the forces on my WD hitch. At that point I’m weighing the risk of being shot by a road rager.
@joshsmith4018
@joshsmith4018 Ай бұрын
What frame reinforcement do you recommend?
@niveknospmoht8743
@niveknospmoht8743 22 күн бұрын
I used to own an older Fireball 32' 1980s 5th wheel trailer. That trailer was like towing a small tank. The frame on that RV was never questioned. The newer 5ths are crap, I've been shopping again for over a year and gave up. I'm leaning towards a cargo trailer and converting it or even leaning towards a bus conversion
@kingrider75
@kingrider75 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video, made perfect sense. I’ll sure be paying attention to this going forward. Also the part about the hitch weight rating set my mind at ease. My dealer set me up with 10,000 pound weight distribution bars on my equalizer 4 hitch and my trailers Gvwr is 9,495 pounds. Everyone has been telling me I need atleast 14,000 pound bars! I know better now after watching this video👍
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech 28 күн бұрын
The weight rating is more related to the strength of the ball hitch and how much it can pull. The weight distribution bars should be sufficient for whatever weight trailer it is rated for. They key is in adjusting it properly. Your tow vehicle should have a specification for what percentage weight should be returned to the front wheels. For example, if after hitching up your RV it lifts 500 lbs of weight off of the front wheels, and your truck owner's manual says to return 50%, then you have to adjust until it only lifts 250 lbs off of the front wheels. Mast people take measurements at the fender before and after to ballpark guess, but the most accurate way to set it correctly is with scales. Thanks for watching!
@mad125100
@mad125100 Ай бұрын
B&W has a WD hitch. It is very easy to use and you can easily release the pressure if needed and restore pressure when required. I highly recommend it.
@bobertforher
@bobertforher 3 күн бұрын
Please explain further. Who is B&W? Is this power inside the truck? Who installs this, dealer or do I take it somewhere else? I am going to start the course but your comment seemed to solve the connection and disconnection when dealing with steep angles.
@mad125100
@mad125100 3 күн бұрын
​@bobertforher B&W is a trailer hitch manufacturer. Mostly 5th wheel but they recently released a bumper WD hitch. It uses a air hydraulic to apply pressure. For instance my setup uses 1200 psi. There are no bars like a typical WD hitch. Simply turn a screw to release pressure and pump back up when needed. The hitch is very easy to install. Took me about 1 hour. It's not cheap but it is worth the cost. There are videos showing this product.
@thomasdean5651
@thomasdean5651 26 күн бұрын
Could you provide some guidance, assuming other factors are correctly applied, in how much tension is "good enough," and how much may be too much? Just wondering if there is a sweet spot that might provide the necessary weight distribution without too much stress on the frame. Using scales is not practical in most cases.
@mountainsintomemories
@mountainsintomemories Ай бұрын
I really don’t think it’s practical to just stop and disconnect the wdh bars. I personally think you’re safe assuming you don’t have them excessively tight. Right truck for the right trailer and the correct setup are imperative.
@vivian2077
@vivian2077 Ай бұрын
Great video and thank you for explaining so clearly. I was wondering if I needed an equalizer hitch for a casita travel trailer I am planning on buying. Guess not! Pulling with an F350 SRW long bed diesel…..
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Each truck/SUV has a specified amount of weight the bumper can hold before a weight distribution hitch is required. I would check your owners manual for that weight, then double check the actual tongue weight after all cargo is loaded in your RV. Thanks for watching!
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@-_.._._--_.-.-_-_-_-...-.- Ай бұрын
Undercover is correct, get the actual weights and run those numbers against your ratings on your setup. Also measure tire clearance to fender of the truck on level ground with nothing in or on it. Then measure after hooking up dry truck and trailer. Then (I know) load both up with gear and water and all that (properly loaded and secured) and measure again. You should immediately know if you need a weight distribution hitch or not. Many are fairly inexpensive and effective. Good luck, stay safe, have fun, and keep adventuring!
@Paiadakine
@Paiadakine Ай бұрын
Interesting. I’ve had car haulers for decades, and see many out jeeping out in the desert. I have never seen a car hauler trailer A frame do this. Are rv trailer frames built different?
@stevebailey3862
@stevebailey3862 Ай бұрын
Frost Heaves. I towed an ~4500 lb. w/~500 lb tongue weight travel trailer up to Alaska from the California with a Transit Van, no weight distribution hitch. I'm so glad I did not (not manufacturer recommended anyway) because I'm pretty sure those heaves in the road would have done frame damage of some sort. Thanks for the great information! I'm really enjoying your channel!
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech 29 күн бұрын
Glad to hear your trip was safe, thanks for watching!
@dakotahutchens642
@dakotahutchens642 10 күн бұрын
if people would stop trying to haul the biggest possible trailer with the smallest possible vehicle this wouldn't be a problem
@tonylinkous7940
@tonylinkous7940 12 күн бұрын
What's your thoughts on the Anderson weight distribution hitch. I have a Ram 2500 and a Rockwood that weighs 8430 lbs.and 36' long, I have a Weigh Safe hitch that works great, It's just very heavy and my knees and back are not what they use to be.
@w1tjl
@w1tjl Ай бұрын
That was a great video. I knew that the front of the truck raising to the back of the trailer was creating a possibility of damage. But I didn't realize what should be done to minimize that possibility. I believe I have the correct size weight distribution hitch, which by the way is actually made by equalizer, but I had never disconnected it. I will now watch for those kind of situations and do that preventative to damage before I go through those areas. By the way I have a heavy duty Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland with the complete trailer package and I haul a relatively small travel trailer behind it. I have actually hauled it without the distribution hitch but was told by the dealer that we really should have one . And maybe they're right? Again thanks for the video and I have subscribed and I will watch more of your stuff I really appreciate it. Thanks
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Each truck/SUV has a specified amount of weight the bumper can hold before a weight distribution hitch is required. I would check your owners manual for that weight, then double check the actual tongue weight after all cargo is loaded in your RV. Glad the video was helpful. Thanks for watching!
@sherriewilson4379
@sherriewilson4379 Ай бұрын
Good video. My TT has hitch integrated in frame, not welded under frame. Only downside to this is hitch is higher than most making tailgate hit hitch ball.
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Interesting. That would make repairs to the tongue much more difficult! What RV do you have?
@sherriewilson4379
@sherriewilson4379 Ай бұрын
@@undercoverrvtech Outdoors RV, they build there own frame Have you done any repairs at Mahoney State Park, think I may have seen you there
@cromer77
@cromer77 3 күн бұрын
how about a topic of, When to use verse not needing a Equalizer? Im going from 1/2 ton to 3/4 ton, I myself am torn on to use or not.
@shotgun3363
@shotgun3363 11 күн бұрын
Our neighbor just parted with his 3 year old, super long, pull behind camping trailer with a bent front A frame for 1/2 the original price. He had left it at a dealership 1100+ miles from home and apparently was getting no satisfaction. I wish he had originally purchased a 5th wheel to be towed by his 3/4 ton diesel.
@ryanloewen126
@ryanloewen126 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video . My truck has air ride and it auto levels itself out not sure why they sold me a equalizer hitch . Your thoughts ?
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech 7 күн бұрын
Even if the jack the rear bumper back up with air ride, the weight on the receiver hitch is still acting as a lever to lift weight from the front wheels. I recommend checking your owners manual to see how many pounds the hitch can hold before a weight distribution hitch is required, then getting scale weights of your rear axle with and without the RV hooked up to see exactly how many pounds you are loading. If you are lifting too much weight from the front tires it is still a safety concern as you lose traction for steering and braking. Thanks for watching!
@facilitiesmaintenancebyarne
@facilitiesmaintenancebyarne Ай бұрын
Great video & info, Jacob... thank you. Would it be fair to say then, that while I have been using an EQ with out 6,000# trailer with a 1/2 ton SUV (Armada), that since I just switched vehicles to a Ram 3500, I should ditch the hitch?
@edmrowiec1936
@edmrowiec1936 Ай бұрын
When setting up the distribution hitch you set it so that the truck sits level (ie. no squatting). I would think that if you connect your TT and the truck still sits level then you don’t need the distribution hitch. My thoughts only and I am not an expert.
@facilitiesmaintenancebyarne
@facilitiesmaintenancebyarne Ай бұрын
@@edmrowiec1936 Makes sense!
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Each truck/SUV has a specified amount of weight the bumper can hold before a weight distribution hitch is required. I would check your owners manual for that weight, then double check the actual tongue weight after all cargo is loaded in your RV. Thanks for watching!
@facilitiesmaintenancebyarne
@facilitiesmaintenancebyarne Ай бұрын
Excellent. Thank you!
@jwiereng
@jwiereng Ай бұрын
0:32 "This only happens to travel trailers " Why does this not happen to other trailers such as enclosed or landscape trailer?
@jrags35
@jrags35 Ай бұрын
I like pulling with a little overkill so 2500 and small mid size bumper pull RV don't need the weight distribution, but still wanted some additional sway control. So far about the only thing for this is that I can find is the Anderson wight distribution hitch just leave off the chains and wedge. Am I on the right track with this ???
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Yes and no. I'm actually planning a whole video about sway control. Bottom line is there are many factors that contribute to trailer sway, and I don't recommend just adding sway control and ignoring the other factors. Stay tuned!
@jrags35
@jrags35 Ай бұрын
@@undercoverrvtech may be Lippert ABS ?
@riariaria
@riariaria Ай бұрын
What about unibody construction cars? We pull a small 16 ft Airstream Basecamp with our Toyota Highlander using sway control but no WDH. We are well within our SUV’s specs for tongue weight, towing capacity and payload. We boondock often and take the Basecamp off pavement over some pretty uneven terrain. Our Highlander isn’t body on frame, it’s unibody construction so we didn’t see the benefit of a WDH. Is there any?
@carlveilleux5744
@carlveilleux5744 24 күн бұрын
Unibody or not is irrelevant. The HL is rated for 5000 lbs trailer weight. Doesn't matter if it's unibody or not, it's rated for it, a rating is a rating. I tow a 18ft trailer with my Highlander and I've been using a WDH (Equal-i-zer 600) for years with no issue. In fact, I would not tow the trailer without the WDH, as it handles much better with it.
@user-vy2bb9wi6i
@user-vy2bb9wi6i 19 күн бұрын
so how do you size the wieght distribution hitch
@user-wp3bb4yn8h
@user-wp3bb4yn8h Ай бұрын
Interesting! I have had the same WDH since 2000 when I bought my first trailer. 10k rated, 1/2 ton trucks. I now own a 5k GVW trailer and the dealer said it wasn’t necessary to use the WDH . I asked them to change it because I felt it gave me more safety in control issues. I will note my truck has air adjust suspension. I’m planning a trip in a couple weeks, would you suggest I try not using the WDH bars? I do have a separate sway bar as well. Thanks for the advice!
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Check the owner's manual for the max hitch weight with and without WD. Then get your scale weights to know exactly how much you are loading on the hitch. If under the max rating for use without WD, it is safe to tow without WD. The benefit is not having to worry about disconnecting in certain situations or risking collapsing the hitch. Air suspension can raise the rear after loading but does not return any weight to the front tires for braking/steering. You still need to determine if WD is required for what you are towing. Thanks for watching!
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk 17 күн бұрын
I don’t think you need it
@keithmackenzie9719
@keithmackenzie9719 Ай бұрын
My tongue weight is 750 lbs. Should i use trunnion bars rated to 800 lbs or bump up to bars rated to 1000 lbs?
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk 17 күн бұрын
I’d use the lighter set
@Knuckledragnation
@Knuckledragnation 28 күн бұрын
So I own a Ram 3500 DRW and a toy hauler that weighs 8,000lbs fully loaded. Are you saying I don’t need a weight distribution hitch for this particular truck & trailer setup?
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech 27 күн бұрын
It is not the GVWR that matters as much as the tongue weight. You should check how much your truck can carry on the hitch before a weight distribution hitch is required, then weigh your rear axle before and after you hook up to see if you need it.
@denden01161
@denden01161 Ай бұрын
Question I have Aluminum RV 21 Intech Sol Dawn 300lbs TW, 2730lbs GCVW. Towing with 19 Lexus GX460 800lbs HW 6600 towing capacity. I’m hesitating to put DW, just adding Friction bar one side. DW hitch weight 90lbs Camco R3 curve, what I been told don’t need it. Oh ya I added Timbren bump stop on my vehicle. What you think should I install DWH or just leave as be.
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk 17 күн бұрын
That’s a scary combination
@denden01161
@denden01161 17 күн бұрын
@@DanielJohnson-ec8rk what do you mean, install DHW or Sway bar only
@goducgo
@goducgo Ай бұрын
Do I need to use my Blue Ox Wd hitch with my 25 ft Airstream that has a 871 ft tongue weight and weighs 5770 lbs loaded with a Ram 2500 with a payload of 2400 lbs. I can barely notice a difference when I load the bars that I know are rated two high. 4 dots I think is 1500 lbs.
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk 17 күн бұрын
He’ll no
@CampingCoastie
@CampingCoastie Ай бұрын
I have a Silverado 2500HD rated for 1,600 pounds tongue weight. My camper has about 850-900 pounds of tongue weight, it's a toyhauler NoBoundries 19.1. I had a Ford f150 when I bought the camper. I am thinking of just getting some friction sway bars.
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Double check the hitch rating with and without weight distribution as those numbers are different. 1,600 is usually the rating with weight distribution. If the max hitch rating without WD is 500 or 600 lbs, you would still need it if you have 900lbs on the hitch. Thanks for watching!
@CampingCoastie
@CampingCoastie Ай бұрын
My Ford f150 was 400 without, 1,200 with WDH. My Silverado 2500HD only says 1,600 pounds, no mention of WDH or not.​@@undercoverrvtech
@MrFreeze79
@MrFreeze79 7 күн бұрын
I'm starting to think motor homes will solve all these issues. Trailers are convenient because you can detach them, but motor homes you don't worry about all these issues. Or simply just get a tent trailer. Growing up my family was content in just setting up a tent. These days, we need to bring a condo to a camp ground to enjoy nature.
@thomabb
@thomabb Ай бұрын
Weight distribution hitches are a bandaid for poor weight distribution, hence the name. If you need a weight distribution hitch, your trailer tongue weight is too heavy for your tow vehicle. A weight distribution hitch does not distribute weight, it applies massive amounts of torque to literally twist the tow vehicle to nose down to counter the excessive weight on the tow hitch which is twisting the vehicle to a nose up orientation. These contraptions do not alleviate a problem, they are designed to disguise a problem. They add forces to the system that the system was not engineered for in most situations. A friend had his frame warranty voided on a brand new camper because he was using a WD hitch setup, which the dealer sold to him and showed him how to set up. How these became mainstream is beyond me.
@mcgilm69
@mcgilm69 Ай бұрын
You probably should have also included a warning about disconnecting the weight distro hitch. 1. Many hitches like this not only help with weight distribution, but include a sway control component. 2. The amount of weight a hitch is designed to carry can vary greatly depending on whether a weight distro hitch is used. On my particular vehicle the maximum weight allowed on the receiver is 500 Lbs without a weight distro hitch, and 1,100 Lbs with a distro hitch.
@goldie74
@goldie74 Ай бұрын
I am sorry this question is off topic, but I would like to know why my PROPANE system in my wbgo 36a solis pocket camper van, has white tape on the fittings instead of yellow. Is it safe? Is it “code” How dangerous is it? What problems have you seen with white tape ad opposed to yellow tape. Thanks!
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Ignorance. White is not rated for gas systems, and I never use tape. I prefer pipe dope because it makes a better thread sealant on NPT joints, and I really hope they did not put tape on any flare joints. I would contact your manufacturer and complain. This is such a commonly known "don't do" that they should warrant having it done correctly. This was a rookie on the assembly line that was not trained properly. Sorry to hear they did that!
@goldie74
@goldie74 Ай бұрын
@@undercoverrvtech Thanks so much for the reply. I am following up with wbgo.
@ahiraband3939
@ahiraband3939 Ай бұрын
​. Was a plumbing apprentice ages ago and was trained to dope anything for gas. The tape is basically a wick in a fire was way my trainer explained it. Haven't had a doped joint leak either.
@edwardmoran1739
@edwardmoran1739 Ай бұрын
I had a flat on my Airstream One wheel Bambi. I could not jack up the trailer at first till I realized I needed to remove the bars from my weigh distributing hitch. Panic then success! No one warned me about this.
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Great point! Yeah with the WD hitch you are jacking your tow vehicle up some as well.
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk 17 күн бұрын
Interesting, thanks for the heads up
@newenglandrvadventures
@newenglandrvadventures Ай бұрын
One way to keep weight down and increase strength is increase size. While weight does go up, a 2x3 vs a 2x6 same thickness will yield more strength vs a thicker 2x3 that may weigh more than a 2x6. Also it’s not all on the hitch, tongue weight on these things can get out of control quick especially with single axle trailers that are made to be light weight yet carry a heft tongue weight but use the 2x3.
@scottemmert3845
@scottemmert3845 14 күн бұрын
Do you work for Lippert? Just wondering?
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech 14 күн бұрын
Lol, no they are going to hate me as much as any KZfaqr eventually. I don't do any sponsorships or brand deals. I think it is important to distinguish between design flaws, factory defects and user-caused issues. I think Lippert as a company is stupid to ever sell an RV frame that is not engineered well. But their business model is to build whatever their clients want, so the RV manufacturers are the most directly responsible for the majority of issues people are facing. With this particular type of failure, I think that it is pretty easy for RV owners to adjust the way they use their RV so they don't end up with a folded frame. If you want a trailer built like a tank with a custom frame, check out Taylor Coach in Canada. They build them old-school :-) Thanks for watching!
@patgleason
@patgleason Ай бұрын
If you have the right truck and trailer combo, chances are you don’t need an equalizer hitch assembly. The trucks (with tow packages) are more than sufficient to handle the towing capabilities.
@StressLessCamping
@StressLessCamping Ай бұрын
This is something I really love about our B&W Continuum hitch. Very, very easy to disable the weight distribution functionality of the hitch. Great information here.
@905Metalhead
@905Metalhead 14 күн бұрын
Why do you use Equalizer as a generic term for WDH? It’s not like Kleenex. No one does this.
@TIREDOFEVIL
@TIREDOFEVIL Ай бұрын
So what about the people who use a hitch setup like Pro PRIDE and such?
@geraldanderson7576
@geraldanderson7576 Ай бұрын
I would also like to know if this includes the ProPride (Hensley) hitch. Hopefully you see this and respond. Thanks in advance whether or not you do reply.
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
The ProPride hitch unique design is only attempting to counteract trailer sway, it is a standard weight distribution hitch and you would still need to disconnect it in certain situations to avoid breaking your RV frame. Thanks for watching!
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
The ProPride hitch unique design is only attempting to counteract trailer sway, it is a standard weight distribution hitch and you would still need to disconnect it in certain situations to avoid breaking your RV frame. Thanks for watching!
@houstonbinkley1844
@houstonbinkley1844 25 күн бұрын
I've been RVing for a decade and never knew this. I dont set my equilizer that tight and i have helper springs on my truck. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure i would have broken the frame several times by now 😅
@truckgotstuck
@truckgotstuck 12 күн бұрын
I don't really agree with your comment about "Even if they reinforced the a-frame of the hitch...You can still put enough force on it driving with your rqualizer hitch to break things" My reason for the issue with this, is when you look at the failures, they are all in the same place. They are bending at the point where the front of the trailer ends. This says that the trailer is providing enough stiffness to prevent the trailer from bending. If the area of failure is so repeatable, then it's obvious that is the area that need to be addressed. the force being applied by the weight of the front of the trailer is concentrated on that point, which means that point needs to be stronger. Sure, you could breay it if you applied enough force, but the thing is, this is a NEW problem. If it was a problem all the time, then it could bre lated to abuse, but people have been using trailers the same way for decades, and now they are having problems. What's the solution? Add strength at the point where the most force is exterted onto the frame; the fulcrum, where the front of the trailer ends. If they were to weld an extra 1/8 the outside and inside of each framerail for 12" forward and back of where the trailer ends on the a-frame; a 24" plate shaped like a really long football; this would distribute that force across a much larger area, and that would allow the tongue to be MUCH stronger with a negligible weight gain. The problem with the trailer frame is the weight concentration in the area where the frame is exposed to the most bending force. Distribute that fore across a larger area (where have we heard this idea before?) and it will dramatically increase the strength. As far as your thoughts about it breaking somewhere else, it doesn't really work unless absolute abuse of the vehicle with unrealistically extreme angles. The problem is, where the trailer ends, acts like a fulcrum, that's where it's going to bend. You beef up the fulcrum, it won't bend under realistic situations. This isn't an issue of people being worse drives, or roads being worse, or people overloading their trailers more, it's an issue of manufacturers trying to minimize weight and sacrificing customer safety to do so. Yeah, it's physics, but really, they should have someone who knows about physics, young's modulus, and the force exerted by weight distribution hitches on staff at both Lippert and the Trailer Manufacturer. Make the fulcrum stronger. Make the a-frame stronger. Make trailers not bend when driving through a construction zone. It's 30-60lbs of material, it's not too much to ask.
@ridge69
@ridge69 4 күн бұрын
And a lot of people use one when they don't need one. I see people all the time that have a 4500 lb 24' trailer and a half ton truck and using one. You don't need one for that. That trailer has under 500 lbs tongue weight. I don't use one for my 30' 7800 lb trailer and a 3/4 ton truck with a class 5 receiver hitch
@davidschmidt5848
@davidschmidt5848 Ай бұрын
I have a equalizer hitch took several adjustments for me to get it right,what a pain. This is the first I heard of the A frame part snapping. Thanks for your info. Big safety issue there
@st6795
@st6795 22 күн бұрын
Pretty much common sense.
@07roadking43
@07roadking43 15 күн бұрын
Quick question, my 17 coachman viking TT the power wire from the power center to the battery is so thin , I don’t understand why they would do that any guesses ?????? Thanks ---Bill
@michaelmilton4427
@michaelmilton4427 19 күн бұрын
I've never seen springs in a weight distribution hitch
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk
@DanielJohnson-ec8rk 17 күн бұрын
The bars are the springs You are not understanding some very basic principles here.
@Badgeweefixstuff
@Badgeweefixstuff Ай бұрын
Awesome video. We take ours off when we not on the straight black top. Lots of good info. Your right hitches built the same no but you just need to know how to use them. How many you know go and buy biggest hitch they can yes SNAP. VERY VERY WELL DONE EVEY RVER DHOULD WATCH THIS VIDEO. Thanks 🛠️🇨🇦🛠️🇨🇦
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@OmahaWayne
@OmahaWayne Ай бұрын
Get rid of the ranger/suv, get 1 ton dually. Problem solved :) Great video my friend, where we camp people should unhook the weight dist. before they even come into the park. I hear so many of the TT's creaking while they back into a site well above the road grade.
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
Lol, yeah, maybe put up a sign at the entrance for newbies?
@Mattedfred
@Mattedfred 2 күн бұрын
Buddy reminds me of someone who calls every snowmobile a Skidoo. Why not just use the term weight distribution hitch in every case. Seemed pointless continuously referring to it as an equalizer hitch.
@wentfishin2095
@wentfishin2095 8 күн бұрын
Bet every frame is made by lippert. My keystone laredo 5th wheel almost came off. Cheap thin steel. This wasn't a common problem on the older trailers using weight distribution hitches.
@hawaiianpool
@hawaiianpool Ай бұрын
Defective frames and defective components. Good video trying to explain why the end user has been the cause of the problem. I wonder why big boat trailers don’t have the same frame issues with a WD HITCH setup ? Might be why your video doesn’t have any connection with your viewership.
@lonniehartke8823
@lonniehartke8823 24 күн бұрын
My state requires any trailer over 18’ of length to be towed only with a weight distribution hitch. You will be fined and can not continue your trip until you use one if stopped.
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech 23 күн бұрын
Interesting. What state is that?
@gregraines8082
@gregraines8082 Ай бұрын
Thanks
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech Ай бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for watching.
@gordonpotts753
@gordonpotts753 Ай бұрын
T.u. i had no idea this was an issue
@user-em7ze5gu7r
@user-em7ze5gu7r 28 күн бұрын
Moral of the story have more truck than you need to tow a travel trailer & a weight distribution system will not be needed thus no breakage of the trailer tongue
@CaptainFantastic79
@CaptainFantastic79 Ай бұрын
Thanks! But ease up on the excessive cuts - felt like I was having a stroke 🤯
@bullboss7698
@bullboss7698 Ай бұрын
This happens so rarely, it's not a "problem".
@a-carpenter9229
@a-carpenter9229 Ай бұрын
They shouldn't be called weight distribution hitches because the weight doesn't move, they should be called leveling hitches because basically they're creating an arch to level the truck and trailer
@Denis-tu1pd
@Denis-tu1pd Ай бұрын
I had a wd250 3/4 ton truck i would put the trailer weight on the hitch then uses the linkthat gives me little tension to over center the lock. I also used lighter rated bars . Had no problems
@2hotscottpro
@2hotscottpro 27 күн бұрын
When a weight distribution hitch is needed for a 1 ton to tow safely the A frame needs beefed up. Cinda like don’t try becoming an electrician on ytube 😂
@MyChannel-vm6dw
@MyChannel-vm6dw Ай бұрын
This guy has convinced me that RVs and travel trailers are way move trouble than they're worth. Instead, it'll be more cost savings and less headaches to fly me and family to our destination, stay at a nice hotel and order room service.
@JandAReview1
@JandAReview1 Ай бұрын
We must’ve bought the last great made TT. We haven’t had any problems in 4 years of owning it. Seems like that’s all you hear on KZfaq is all the trouble ppl have with RV’s
@DavArroyo7242
@DavArroyo7242 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, many of the problems and issues that people encounter with RVs are self-inflicted wounds caused by by people not researching or learning how to properly “RVing” if there is such a thing. If your not somewhat mechanical inclined you should get the proper training to RV/tow/enjoy owning an RV, it’s not difficult, but if you do things incorrectly it can quickly become a nightmare!!!
@JandAReview1
@JandAReview1 Ай бұрын
@@DavArroyo7242 Great comment! I said a person needs to be a little handy to own an RV of any kind, and you would’ve thought I talked about their mommy.
@Paiadakine
@Paiadakine Ай бұрын
So true except if you are going someplace without hookups.
@mooseman3136
@mooseman3136 Ай бұрын
So then would air bags be better to use? That wouldn't solve the weight distribution problem.
@Redfour5
@Redfour5 Ай бұрын
That's a decent question. I'd phrase it as do airbags have any affect on this issue.
@OmahaWayne
@OmahaWayne Ай бұрын
@@Redfour5 unless they would be rapid auto leveling bags I dont see how it could help at all.
@keithpfrang2114
@keithpfrang2114 Ай бұрын
@@OmahaWayneI believe @Redfour5 is thinking of using airbags instead of a WDH. Whether that’s an option would depend on the tow vehicle and trailer. Each combination of tow vehicle and trailer would have to be judged on its own merits with GVWRs and payloads of both tow vehicle and trailer being taken into consideration.
@richardr9294
@richardr9294 Ай бұрын
No. The air bags will take some of the weight off of the tow vehicles springs. Air bags don't re-distribute any weight .
@OmahaWayne
@OmahaWayne Ай бұрын
@@keithpfrang2114 The serve two totally different purposes. Air bags only level out the truck and trailer, they are not a weight distribution system at all. The air would simply be the same as increasing the spring load on the truck. Which wont help with weight distribution or help with the issue of the flex that is going to happen when you raise the front of the truck.
@jameshibbard2963
@jameshibbard2963 25 күн бұрын
And if your truck can handle it, you will still have a crap ride without bars. Signed: RV Transporter
@northerngunner2756
@northerngunner2756 17 күн бұрын
Just buy the appropriate size truck for towing your Rv with out a weight distributing hitch. Problem solved.
@TheCSRTech
@TheCSRTech Ай бұрын
I don't understand why you can't just say "weight distribution hitch"? Nobody else calls them an "equalizer hitch"
@CharlesinGA
@CharlesinGA Ай бұрын
He is using a trademarked name as a generic term for the hitch. Its like calling all paper tissues kleenex. If I was Equal-i-zer Id be asking for a take down of the video.
@joelfarris
@joelfarris Ай бұрын
He very clearly explained the Xerox and Kleenex phenomenon at the beginning, then gave a plug to Equalizer as being so ubiquitous that it has become a buzzword, and here you are advocating that Equalizer takes this down!? Clearly, wisdom has been chasing you all your life, but you keep proving to be faster.
@TheCSRTech
@TheCSRTech Ай бұрын
@@joelfarris I never said anything about taking it down. The point is, "equalizer" is no more a "buzzword" for weight distribution hitches than Reese or Draw-Tite is.
@CharlesinGA
@CharlesinGA Ай бұрын
He basically said Equal-i-zer is a generic word for all hitches of the type. Xerox was famous for issuing cease and desist letters to any publication who used their name to generically describe a photocopy machine. He should have used the proper words to describe Andersen, Blue Ox, Reese, Husky, and a whole bunch more. You protect the trademark or you lose it.
@ROgletree
@ROgletree Ай бұрын
Now explain why particle board cabinets are better than real wood.
@daves1646
@daves1646 20 күн бұрын
On frame strength. Manufacturers have over-pinched the pennies and left TOO LITTLE margin in their designs. As RV creature features have increased astronomically, frame strength has not increased in proportion. On my rig, I neither leave my WD bars on when going in/out of a park slot or run with a higher than needed level of tension. I still see evidence of flex movement each day I am on a full day drive. Screws affixing trim and fiberglass outer wall to the wood and aluminum tubular frame parts backing out ever so slightly after one to two days travel. And not on a no-name brand (GD) trailer. Manufacturers better put the engineering margins back up where they belong or the usual litigation / money bleeding thats endemic to seemingly every product type will no doubt start soon. I won’t be paying premium price for a NAME next time and I will be measuring the thickness and build type of the frame of my RV BEFORE purchasing. Otherwise, I’m the dummy for being predisposed to a failure. Also - WDH’s also generally serve the second essential function of having some anti-sway capability that is very necessary if a long or tall TT is being towed (and how many rigs aren’t WAY tall or long nowadays …… a different rant).
@nighthealerrn1695
@nighthealerrn1695 23 күн бұрын
Make better frames. My grandparents never had issues with these issues. Campers are not made as well today, like everything else.
@todmiller2254
@todmiller2254 Ай бұрын
Not easy to remove equalizer hitch without jacking up with tongue jack and easing pressure to get the bars off. This info seems ridiculous to just go up a steep ramp. Sounds like fear mongering.
@jerrytalley802
@jerrytalley802 25 күн бұрын
It’s because you don’t understand physics. If you set the hitch for level roads there’s a lot of tension on these things. Any deviation from level increases that tension. Naturally small ups and downs are factored in the design, but a steep incline would put massive pressure and something has to give. I appreciate these kinds of videos. I have a lot of common sense. Have towed a fair amount, but never would have thought of this, and it’s very obvious once someone brings it to our attention
@marquisbetz7694
@marquisbetz7694 22 күн бұрын
If you got that much tension, you got your bars pulled way too tight. That's the problem.
@JOHNNYGIX
@JOHNNYGIX 20 күн бұрын
I’ve had an equalizer bar snap when I was getting to my boondocking spot off road and climbing over an erosion line. Glad that broke and not my trailer frame. This video is 100% correct. The equalizer prevents the full pivot action of the trailer ball to help stabilize on the highway. At low speeds, the equalizer bars are better removed. You could simply loosen the chains with your snipe bar before going over a big dip and then re tighten, takes two seconds
@brojerhwg5206
@brojerhwg5206 Ай бұрын
Gee.... Maybe stronger steel and more robust frames, like we had 30 years ago, wasnt such a bad thing, huh? ... Back then, they werent "walking on eggs" trying to get into a McDonalds or the gas station.... 😂😂😂... I will pass on today's flimsy RVs, thank you.🎉
@jscarpetta1
@jscarpetta1 Ай бұрын
Frames are made like garbage these days. Got nothing to do with equalizer's
@blj859
@blj859 Ай бұрын
Get a Hensley hitch and drive on
@chrisbuxton2778
@chrisbuxton2778 12 күн бұрын
Un no.
@preyingmathis2517
@preyingmathis2517 4 күн бұрын
Seems extremely inconvenient as well as dangerous to be just stopping anywhere you encounter a hill to drop the bars. I feel like someone should be sued.
@bradleyrounds9768
@bradleyrounds9768 Ай бұрын
Bull shit the hitch is to thin 20 years ago this never happened so stop the bull shit
@johnwest2396
@johnwest2396 26 күн бұрын
A lot of these videos don't have the courage or the guts to put on the manufacturer for putting out weak frames. I guess it's easier to blame the customer.
@glenarmstrong1524
@glenarmstrong1524 Ай бұрын
Lol blame the customer, that's what rv dealer's do😂
@raylaux8295
@raylaux8295 22 күн бұрын
Dude just say WD hitch. But your selling that brand, right?
@undercoverrvtech
@undercoverrvtech 22 күн бұрын
Nope, I don't actually do brand deals. I just say equalizer out of habit
@mtower235
@mtower235 19 күн бұрын
Build it right Stop blaming the consumer. For decades this has NOT been happening
@SmokinRodeoBand
@SmokinRodeoBand Ай бұрын
This issue is not as common as you make it out to be. Sounds like a lot of fear mongering to scare folks into buying your course.
@dw7094
@dw7094 Ай бұрын
Every bent hitch I've come across was caused by the owner attempting to take the rig off-road to get to that "ideal" boondocking spot. These campers ain't built for that.
@user-zd1gx1vc3q
@user-zd1gx1vc3q 20 күн бұрын
They make these trailers weaker and cheaper all the time and then give you these ridiculous solutions so they won’t break. Who would possibly travel like this, shove your trailers there all crap.
@scottfirman
@scottfirman Ай бұрын
Mabe manufacturers have gotten CHEAP and RV frames are too thin. I disagree 100% Sounds like you are covering the RV industry's fanny. I have NOT heard any certified RV mechanic shoveling this . Yes, it is important to set up the hitch properly. The DEALER should be setting up your rig BEFORE that RV leaves the lot. I find this all propaganda made up by the manufacturer. Nice try.
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