Hello! Teacher Cui Naqing. I like your video very much. I have a lot of friends who learn the flute. May I ask if I can record and share your video in my social account?

I think Ray is great, even though he can't circular breathe, yet. After seeing Sonny Fortune circular breathe at the "Five Spot" I showed this to my teacher (Samuel Baron) who forbade me to ever do this. Years later (after I had become proficient at this) he wanted to learn. So at a restaurant he showed me all the things he did to learn how to do this (which didn't work) and didn't let me get a word in, edgewise. So I stopped him by telling him that I wasn't interested in learning how the technique WASN'T possible. My price for showing him how to do this (with guarantee) was too expensive and he became insulted! I didn't understand this and he never learned. Mr. Baker never was able to learn this, either. He showed me a letter from a flutist which explained in great detail and very understandably just what needs to be done. Mr. B explained to me that he had agreed that if he learned how to circularly breathe, he'd have to give this flutist his old Powell. I couldn't help but laugh. OF COURSE he could never learn to circularly breathe - it would have cost him dearly. Jasmine, my difficulty is that by four and a half minutes of playing using the technique (and I must say that I use it all the time, without thinking much about it. The soprano came to me after our first Passion of St. Matthew performance to complain about my long sequential phrase in "Aus Liebe will mein Heiland sterben" - so I breathed a little bit and it was beautiful, anyway.) so much saliva will have collected in my mouth that I must stop the tone-production in order to swallow. Do you have any tips about circular swallowing? Thanks.

No nostril flare during the breathe in!?

​@@LucenProject As you've probably noticed, there is very seldom reason to exert any of your nose-muscles in order to breathe-in or -out, after all: we breathe THROUGH the nose and not WITH or by using the nose (which is only passively involved in letting air pass through it). Just like by any other flute-action, any contraction of muscles - especially those that are noticeable - are signals that one might be doing something wrong or at least something superfluous which usually only serves to make an action more difficult and to restrict its effectivity. Flaring ones' nose is no exception. Contracting these muscles involves hindering the workings of the lip-muscles and in turn hinder control over the tone-production, so if you're doing this, learn how to leave it be, as it is not necessary and is a hindrance. It's a much easier technique if not even an easy one.

@@LucenProject As you've probably noticed, there is very seldom reason to exert any of your nose-muscles in order to breathe-in or -out, after all: we breathe THROUGH the nose and not WITH or by using the nose (which is only passively involved in letting air pass through it). Just like by any other flute-action, any contraction of muscles - especially those that are noticeable - are signals that one might be doing something wrong or at least something superfluous which usually only serves to make an action more difficult and to restrict its effectivity. Flaring ones' nose is no exception. Contracting these muscles involves hindering the workings of the lip-muscles and in turn hinder control over the tone-production, so if you're doing this, learn how to leave it be, as it is not necessary and is a hindrance. It's a much easier technique if not even an easy one.

Hey I’m also a cellist. High five

Same lol, its nice to learn air stuffs for color guard

i aint a cellist but i think cello is the hottest instrument

Guitarist here

I want to see a video of a circular breathing cellist.

Thats exactly the thing :/ the embuchre, I can do it on a recorder, but when it comes to the flute, as u say the embochure it suffers and completly miss out

Don't feel to bad, I have been playing for over 40 years and have never been able to master circular breathing either.....

@@montealegreluis5983 I feel like most instruments that have some resistance to the embouchure would be much easier to circular breathe on. So, opened embouchures like the flute is much more difficult. I can do circular breathing on the cup and straw though. Just not on my flute.

Same.

It took me so many years till I got better at it.. it’s not something one can achieve right away on the flute! So keep it up, you have the concept already so the rest is about keep trying to figure out the smooth connection between the air from your cheeks and from your nose😅♾️

What’s funny is that it’s really quite simple when you understand how it works.

As a beginner violinist now learning to play in 3rd position, this is most certainly useful knowledge!

lol, yes

​@@EmeraldSpring8926 omg awh good luckk!! 3rd position isnt hard, but 2nd position... it was the worst one for me 😭😭

​@reinaglow I've been playing for 9 months now. A year ago this wasn't on my radar - I didn't know what a note was or did, what a measure is, or even exactly what a beat really is. Now I'm working on minuet 1 suzuki book 1, and wohlfahrt etude 1, bowings 3 and 4. Now I'm not really excited about 2nd position, 😅

@@EmeraldSpring8926 ooo i love that!!! ive been playing for 5 years now (5th grade in music school) and i am working on bach's concerto in a minor, love's sorrow (liebsleid) by kreisler, danse macabre by saint saens and tarantella by n. levi. i am also working on a duet with my friend :)

You’ve got any tips, I’ve been playing the flute for 2 years

@@grandladykismet8711for playing the flute or?

nt surprising as they make videos together all the time

Yeah me too! I was like WHAAT WAAIIT WHOO WOOW

@@muffinmuffin8883 🤣

Except she'd have to stop for lunch or something.

@@LouisBertrandTechnah she mastered circular eating

It’s for flute playing 😅

As a flute player this also confuses me

I always thought that it was a glass-blowing technique to make beautiful bottles and we wind-players just adopted it. Bottles are similar to tones.

(copied from above) And what's your secret to circular bowing? Do you get the inside hair going up- and the outside hair going down-bow?

Also bag-pipe players have this interim lung they blow air into but also press air out of simultaneously. Multi-tasking.

You don’t run out of breath if you’re continuously breathing though lol

And what's your secret to circular bowing? Do you get the inside hair going up- and the outside hair going down-bow?

@@howardcohen6817 I just put hair on all sides and turn the bow around

@@A_440Hz I like the idea of a "traffic circle" at the end of a bow to lead one back in the opposite direction. Now about 440 hz: when tuning to a d-minor chord, isn't it the d (a tempered 294 hz) which is actually tuned and the "a" is then 3/2 higher (then a=442 hz)?

@@howardcohen6817 Isn't that wrong in equal temperament

@@A_440Hz Yes, that's the point. We don't hear "equally" but hear geometrically. By tuning to a=440 our "d" will be a breath too low (in comparison to the piano) the "g" will be two breaths too low and the cello "c" extremely too low making playing with the piano and other equally tempered instruments (vibraphone, harp guitar etc,) unbearable. When we hear the d-minor chord we automatically "correct the "a" a breath higher so that our violin is in-tune with itself (with its "d") and the open-strings are usable, generally (except in F-Major, for example). In the Mozart oboe-quartet (in F-Major) for example, the oboe gives its a=440 and the strings tune using this tuning note. By using this a=440, though, the strings force the oboe to an F higher than the oboe can produce (352 hz). This in turn forces the oboist to think that s/he's too low and constructs a higher reed for the next rehearsal, producing an a=442hz Forcing the oboist in the rehearsal to an F (4/5ths of the "a") to 353.6 hz and so on and on it goes. Silly as this seems, the modern definition of "a" tuning-note is defined by the UN as being 440hz although musicians hardly ever use this pitch, other than to tune their instruments. Only when the a=444hz can we use (fingered and not on the open string) an a=440hz in an F-Major chord with a tempered (on the piano) F=704 hz. By mistakenly using the tuning a=444hz we force the chord-root to be a whopping F=710hz! which is when the fun dissipates and the poor oboist has to begin earning his/her money. Unfortunately, I could go on forever with this, which, as you can imagine, makes me quite the life of the party. If you want more, write some more. Time to practise. Love.

It IS easy, my god. and Jasmine does this very well, too.

Fr 😂

I think it can be used for any instrument that needs air

The more “serious” and detailed classes on this subject are on Henle Masterclass site and Tonebase Flute site:)

@@JasmineChoi thank you!

​​@@sarasate89 I can only circular breathe in a Didgeridoo, but I 'got' the technique, after years of trying other methods, by this method. When you rinse your mouth out with water, after cleaning your teeth, practice jetting the water out of your mouth by using your cheeks to force it out, rather than lung pressure. Do this for a few days until it becomes normal. Then do the extra step of trying to bring in a short sniff of air up your nose, while jetting the water out of your mouth with your cheek muscles. Do this for a few days. Now try just jetting air out of your mouth using the cheek muscles, , while sniffing a short burst up your nose. Keep trying. I got the hang of it in less than a week. Can't do it yet on a flute, but I admit I didn't try for very long. I'm going to try again.

​@@JasmineChoi ain't you gonna teach us for free? 🙂

Hi @atleastvicky ! Actually the concept is all there is in this video already. It took me YEARS to get to do this much. Circular breathing on flute is nothing you can ever master right after watching one or two videos. The concept is as simple as what you saw, and you will only get disappointed if you have thought you could do this already after watching someone doing it. You can get free lessons but mastering it is not free- it all depends on your commitment, and experimenting the work yourself. No one can practice it for you. If this was that easy to achieve, you would have seen already thousands of flutists doing this technique including yourself:) Enjoy practicing it, it takes a lot of time!💪🏼⏱️

I agree, I want to see more people play the chinese flute. It has such a beautiful sound ! If you are interested, I composed a piece in which I play the transverse flute and the Chinese flute. It is inspired by film music, but it is chamber music. I used circular breathing in this piece, and I also used an even more advance technique called circular tonguing which mixes circular breathing and double tonguing. The piece is called Rain's Shards and it is on my youtube channel !

Enfin une 🇫🇷 Pourquoi mon titre est en français 😂 bizarre

I highly recommend lessons. It will help you a lot with your playing vs trying to play on your own. I hadn't played in a very long time. I got my flute looked over first and had pads replaced on it. Then I found a flute teacher in my area. I have been taking flute lessons for almost 3 months now. Just make sure you practice a lot. Usually when I practice I warm up with 5 minutes of scales. Then I work on what my teacher assigned me for the week. I could practice for more than hour. I usually finish on something that's fun to play but isn't something assigned by my instructor. Good luck and have fun playing. 😁

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