Patreon link: www.patreon.co... Part 2 of the 4-tile project. Now fully painted and going through advantages and disadvantages with modular vs glued down version of terrain.
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@Steve_Keen3 жыл бұрын
I think a mixture of modular and static terrain is the ultimate goal. Work on getting the base amount to fill a normal battlefield size. Then maybe start making some special builds for lore-friendly locations. Can be tiles (or more) and maybe a collection of built and glued structures that can be added to a modular board, like a rogue doc's surgery or an armorer's shop.
@barttopo3392 Жыл бұрын
The thing with the Vent and Compoter Screen: Have you noticed the circular shape at the inner side of the walls and collums? They can fit a 6mm Magnet. The Vents also have a 6mm wide hole from the Back. And when you put the vents on thair designatetd position, you can see, that they line up exactly. As if someone planned it. Further more the collums have 2 magnet positions on each side. One for the collum vent and one in the center. When you look on the short side of a wall section from the inside, you see, that thy are always flush at their center, so you can put in a big magnet there (I glued in a 10x3 round one in). Now I can take a loose 6x6x6 Magnetic cube, snap it to the outer central position and then snap a wall section to it. Further more, you can put cubic magnets in the bottom corners of the wall, collum sections and underneath the baseplate. So everything snaps together and stays secure. I just started with Necromunda, but I'd like to make an true fully modular table. So you were wrong, that you can't put details on the walls. They just need to be magnetized. And when you look precisely on the Necromunda terrain, then you see, that they were designed to be magnetised
@rastamann20093 жыл бұрын
I think the best of both worlds would be some modular tiles, as you’ve done them, that can be moved around, and a couple of thematic tiles that only go out of the house for special demo games. And possibly another kind of semi modular build could be with you having some themed stuff built up vertically but not glued down to the tiles. Also, perhaps putting a great big magnet inside a column could allow you to do the same to a few computer terminals, that can then be attached to the columns at will - I don’t know how viable that would be, but maybe it’s worth checking into it. Thanks for the video - it’s awesome for inspiration and know-how! It would be great if you put up a picture on instagram of the separate parts all laid out
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
I am leaning towards that option. I'll see what the future holds for my tiles.
@MAstaKFC3 жыл бұрын
Wow very inspiring! I went full modular magnetic with one box of dark uprising and the drilling and gluing nearly killed me. To add insult to injury it wasnt as stable as I thought itd be and now I regret.
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Yea, I have seen some modular terrain with magnets. They are really modular but not really stable as you mentioned. But if the players are used to it, and know the terrain, its not a big issue really.
@MAstaKFC3 жыл бұрын
@@MrLeonarddime quick question, did you glue the platform pieces on top of the column/walls or can you take them off? Or is it just columns and walls attached but the top pieces are detachable? Thanks
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
@@MAstaKFC I tend to glue them down. Having them detachable would be a fully modular set :)
@haydndean3 жыл бұрын
Really glad you're producing videos, love your work! Terrain is one of those things where, yes it might be expensive, but it's totally worth it. You've got probably one of the world best Necro setups and it's worth every penny!
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😊
@lennartster15993 жыл бұрын
Seeing how cool this semi-modular stuff can become I am now leaning towards making both types
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Yea, I was convinced glued down themed tiles was the only way to go... not so sure now :D
@strongbif3 жыл бұрын
Making a semi modular set then occasional glued-down tiles, in that order, would have several advantages. You could get a great looking game going quickly while learning the basic skills needed, and take your time on glued-down tiles without delaying any games. You could incorporate experience from games played on the semi-modular set to inform decisions when designing the glued-down tiles. You could mix and match both types to make really amazing looking but flexible tables.
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
@@strongbif Very true words! One doesn't have to stick to one or the other 😃 Why not both? 👌
@lennartster15993 жыл бұрын
Yeah excactly! Make some really cool themed extravagant (as much as you like/afford) glued down tiles and some ever changing modular ones to always keep it fresh. Im in on that idea!
@petermellors64563 жыл бұрын
A bit of both, a few tiles with specific locations and others semi modular
@dc13163 жыл бұрын
I cant give you enough credit, i think semi modular is the way to go. Personally i dont have much imagination so i copy but i think i will take inspiration from this video on ways to glue the walls together in different shapes. I think you work you do for customers is insane but making videos like this so the average person can make it with a few kits will definitely be popular.
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Yea, I do agree that semi modular is a solid path to take for normal players who wants terrain for Necromunda. And I am looking into getting more studies into certain sub assemblies of walls & columns, and adding heavy themes in some way.
@sylntghost0073 жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat.I have absolutely no imagination.so these videos really help me a lot.
@minimalbard64983 жыл бұрын
Awesome 80s vibes 😀
@backstab_bob65093 жыл бұрын
Mmm... i really like that pink hill backlight! Fits your scin oh so well! Great video aswell!
@MiniatureGameMontage3 жыл бұрын
8:30...I felt like I was watching a Jean-Claude Van Damme movie...kickboxer maybe? lol great stuff!
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Jeab Claude :D isn't he 90's? Hmm, I better shape up with my music choices.
@MiniatureGameMontage3 жыл бұрын
@@MrLeonarddime Kickboxer was '89 :D
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
@@MiniatureGameMontage 😅😂 Thats really on the edge 😂 But I'll take it! Now I gotta watch it and see if it has the 80's groove.
@KriegHammer3 жыл бұрын
that intro music is epic!
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
:) Its a great one for sure. Found it at Epidepicsound. Lots of great music there
@lordwolkenstein93393 жыл бұрын
ikr? the fade in is sooo good!
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
@@lordwolkenstein9339 :) Thanks. Looking to advance the editing skills further of course. Its a fun experience to play around with.
@viciousyeen66443 жыл бұрын
I would definitely mix the modular approach with the glued down detail tiles in a great gaming board
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@jonbauml225Ай бұрын
Killer board bro. Great job
@sylntghost0073 жыл бұрын
Really love this video. It has given me some inspiration for what to do with my boards.I really like how you glued some small sub assemblies together to use different ways.
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again mate. And yea, I am in my mind working on some new sub assemblies of walls.
@pgabrieli3 жыл бұрын
very very cool looking tiles, thanks for sharing! about not being able to add terminals etc on the sides of the columns and walls because you never know where you're going to place them, why not use magnets? that's exactly why GW put the magnet holders on the inside! :-)
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Magnets 😅Well that's what I get for not looking in the manual. But I am not a fan of parts sitting with magnets to be totally honest. I might change my mind in the future, but for now I have very little skill with magnets. Sure its easy to just glue them there, but its another process to add, and... I need to use super glue! 😅😂
@djangofett48793 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize those little grooves were for magnets. how thick do the magnets need to be to be strong enough through the plastic? do I need some thicker magnets like 3 mm? Ill probably still just glue some of the pipe sections and not magnetize those but for little accessory bits i'd like to try out magnets. 👍
@lordwolkenstein93393 жыл бұрын
Man I love the tiles! Looking so good! I would imagine keeping it modular makes it more valuebale(?) so you can use always different parts for each tile and always adapt to your story or layout BTW I like your tumbnails! One can always recognize your videos in the feed and see what you are going to build or talk about! thumbs up!
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! much appreciated! Well, modular sure has many advantages. But I do think glued down has equally many. But... glued down is cursed by two major disadvantages, cost and storage space. Really happy you think the thumbnails are good. Of course, there will be some slight modification over time, but its good to hear what you guys think.
@The_Cure_suck_Paula3 жыл бұрын
Love watching your channel grow, and how you involve your community so much. As much as I love your content, I think patreons are likely to want to see more modularity, and suspect you'll be making more modular terrains in future videos. Either way, just wanted to leave a quick thank you, and show my appreciation of your work
@jestyrjohn3 жыл бұрын
This set up is very inspiring! Ive been pondering what to do with my dark uprising box, I think Ill plan out 6 or 8 tiles, and work towards a set up like you show here using that pls the other terrain I already have. Perhaps even give me an excuse to get another dark uprising box. :)
@deebernaers1373 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Leo, cool video!
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Thank again mate. Always good to hear from you.
@adammeney88413 жыл бұрын
Stunning boards. Love it!!
@Daredhnu2 жыл бұрын
Despite how beautiful i think your non-modular boards are I think this is the superior approach for myself personally, due to the convenience of storage but also cost, I have 16 floor tiles at the moment so i could make a 4' by 4' table if I didn't go modular i'd probably have to get another 16 floor tiles just to get all the variations that i'd want, add the needed wall and platform sets to that and i'd be spending thousands of euro's just on terrain for a game I don't even get to play all that often unfortunately. (though i'm hoping to get a campaign going in the near future) Love your terrain videos by the way, and i'd love to see more of your terrain to be honest, so if you could make a video of each of your own tiles with full 360 shots of them and nice close-ups those would be amazing even just as inspiration, anyway, keep up the great content, it's greatly appreciated.
@deathbyedvin3 жыл бұрын
We are way way way above a billion (long scale, mind you) configurations. Combinatorics is the best!
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Frontpart.... we meet again...
@hetzerfeind18853 жыл бұрын
Probably a bit difficult to make out a excact number without to much work. Maybe as starting point it would be easier to just go for the possible number of setups with just the base plate
@deathbyedvin3 жыл бұрын
@@hetzerfeind1885 true, this number is actually easily obtainable. Looking at the permutations of a four tile base we get the following equation, 4! x n^m, where m is the number of tiles with n rotations. Now, this doesn’t consider a 90 degree rotation of the entire board similar, so to this in to consideration we divide the total by 4, giving us 4! x n^m /4. Plug in the number of tiles with 4 rotations and we get 4! x 4^3 / 4, which totals to 384 unique permutations of the baseplate alone.
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
@@deathbyedvin exact numbers... I need them.... 😂
@hetzerfeind18853 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah that looks cleaner than just my way of finding uniqe not rotated configurations (which gave me 6x4^3). (More or less 1234, 1342, 1423 and the mirrored versions)
@djangofett48793 жыл бұрын
I LOL'd at the 80s commercial fake accident 😂
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ! Happy someone did ;)
@Steve_Keen3 жыл бұрын
*sniff* It's just.. just so beautiful! 😭
@angelicdespot27353 жыл бұрын
This is really fantastic.
@hetzerfeind18853 жыл бұрын
On the math if we are talking about just about the plates themselves without the addons and in a 2x2 setup: If we would leave rotating tiles out of the way we would start with a base number of 3 possible configurations (more if you consider rotating the whole board another configuration). Now with rotating we have 4 more varients for 3 of the boards if we rotate them individually. So there should be 192 (4x4x4x3) individual setups before considering all the small add ons
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Am I able to tag @EdvinUllman on this 😅 He would love to calculate with you on this.
@hetzerfeind18853 жыл бұрын
If he has a youtube account you could probably ping him with that.
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
@@hetzerfeind1885 I'll Just call him 😂
@hetzerfeind18853 жыл бұрын
I guess so probably even wrong about that number need to work that out again
@hetzerfeind18853 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think I did something wrong with just the combinations without turning single plates Next number would be 384 without turning (forgot the mirrored setups)
@boboshobby3 жыл бұрын
Excellent !!!
@PMMagro3 жыл бұрын
Very good to see.
@jrkistler3 жыл бұрын
Excited to give this a try! Thanks for doing the engineering work for us all, Leo! I didn't immediately notice the platform pieces from the Platforms and Stairs kit with 'hatches' in them. Did you end up skipping those?
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
That all depends on what I need. In many cases I don't need them, in other cases I need many of them :D So its hard to say-
@liamsouter89833 жыл бұрын
What was your painting recipe for the board itself? I absolutely love the off white colour you have!
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
That’s just bone white with wash of burn amber oil paint. Followed by drying off excess wash to get a random dirty look.
@liamsouter89833 жыл бұрын
@@MrLeonarddime thank you for the reply! Which companies produce the bone white paint and the burn amber oil paint?
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
The bone white you can either get from Games Workshop or Vallejo. For the burnt amber. I used oil paint from Winsor & Newton. This oil paint need to be mixed with a medium such as an enamel/white spirit.
@Buster01Actual2 жыл бұрын
Hi Leo! MANY thanks for doing this series. I'm working on the 4-tile setup now, and would like to hear your advice on where to go after? Start building custom tiles, or are there other tile layout patterns you'd advise to include before I start doing scenes? Thanks in advance for your advice and help!
@Hobbyrepubliken3 жыл бұрын
Wish I had the money to build permanent tiles
@jostonpowell13463 жыл бұрын
Me too, those kits are so expensive so I am hoping to find some STLs to print something similar
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Permanent tiles are expensive, and to be honest, I don't even want to start calculating the worth of the tiles I have build in 2020. But semi modular is within reach for many player or at least a smal gaming group to share. I will look into creating modular terrain more thematic in the future. Just need to get my terrain started from GW... some huge delays now due to Brexit.
@STONEDCLOWN13 жыл бұрын
Banging video leo
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@sechs63 жыл бұрын
4:50 You said that is not possible to glue details because of the modularity.. and I had an idea. Have you heard about magnetic paints? These are pigments that make any surface magnetic because it contains small metal particles. What if you paint the surface with this paint and magnetize the small pieces/details so you can attach and remove them as you need.
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's interesting. I'll take a look.
@rikokrates62983 жыл бұрын
What an incredible table. Was that a 2x2 ft table? I'm still deciding whether to go with a battle mat or pick up some of the tiles.
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
Battle may will work perfectly. It runs down to if you want 3D ground floor or not. Each tile is 12”x12”
@rikokrates62983 жыл бұрын
@@MrLeonarddime I don't think I've got the money of time to do that! 4x4 table 16 tiles, which is 4 boxes of tiles...but mainly it's the time I think!
@BrokenKrayon3 жыл бұрын
Could be a silly question since I've just found this channel, is there a video where you show how you laid out the tiles and how many kits were used? Say 4x walls and columns boxes, 1x box zone mortalis tiles, 2x dark uprising boxes etc?
@BrokenKrayon3 жыл бұрын
Found it 🤣
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
@@BrokenKrayon 😅 no worries. If you have any questions, let me know
@BrokenKrayon3 жыл бұрын
@@MrLeonarddime would this work just as well with different tile patterns in place of the ones you used in the first video or do you think the ones you used are best for variety? Also have a new subscribe
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
@@BrokenKrayon Most patterns will work well. L-shaped one is the most versatile one if you ask me. Gives good amount of walls that block line of sight, and still lots of opens space. It is important to have walls in a zone mortals setup, so any tile with walls is a good tile. 😃 But I have found that this setup works very well, and is easy to work with.
@benjimcc3 жыл бұрын
How did you cut the long platforms I'm looking at mine and the video and I can't figure out how you cut them. Also the the 2 column with two platforms bridge. What pieces were those. I'm following but lost at the last pieces loving it so far !
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
To cut the long platforms use an exacto knife and cut along the space that separates the individual tiles on the platform. And for the bridge, I built my own 4-tile platform. Using the two vent platforms that goes over the columns and two extension pieces that connects to these. Look at the Zone Mortalis floor tile. You basically need to mimic the pattern there.
@benjimcc3 жыл бұрын
@@MrLeonarddime Awesome thanks for the tips and the videos im nearly done with the build the guide has been excellent
@Gallasl6663 жыл бұрын
Cabinets? What are cabinets? Maybe someday
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
When I read it first... I was like 'I'll try to explain...' then I realised... waaaaait a minute. 😅
@Gallasl6663 жыл бұрын
@@MrLeonarddime Yeah. I like to kid around. Nice channel. I also need to get my Dark Uprising terrain assembled finally.
@MrLeonarddime3 жыл бұрын
@@Gallasl666 I love comments like this. 😂 And thanks mate.