Lol who would of known lol

guuuuurl i wanna hug you. I hated math and I said as a young gurl.Im never going to get a job that consist of MATH.. I should have listened. Cause I've been putting Siri to WORK LOL LOL.. I never thought I needed to use math. This video was my BREAKTHROUGH, and when I read your messages, I started cracking up laughing cause all through this video everything you wrote, I said to myself lol lol Good luck Sis

DITTO, learning it how for sure LOL

Same here! I thought making candles you just melt the type of wax you want and dump in fragrance. Boy was I wrong! This was by far the easiest to understand!

Sure didn't lol

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Hi Wes! You are not incorrect, if you want to be extremely precise with your measurements and have no wax leftover. But this can get unnecessarily complicated, both in doing and in explaining. We find this method is the simplest way for most people and circumstances to still get great results without giving themselves a headache. 🙂

Thank u

@@candlescience but your math is still wrong and as such your video is misleading. It would be helpful if you disclosed up front in the video that you would end up with an excess 3 ounces of wax. Your math gives me excess material which is a waste in resources and adds up very quickly. For a video called "Candle making math" I was expecting to get some more precision.

Thank you Wes for an accurate breakdown of this formula.

Thank you for this. I am new to making candles and this is very helpful. The only question I had was why is it (1+ FL)? Is it always going to be 1?

Glad it was helpful and hope you enjoy your first batch of scents!

We're so glad it was helpful!

Glad it was helpful! If you ever have any questions, please just let us know!

We're so glad it helped! If you ever have any questions during the making process or run into any issues, just let us know and we'd be happy to assist!

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This is my point exactly. The math ain’t mathing 😂

I had so much wax left over when i tried to do this formula ! It didn’t add up for-sure

Yeah, he is off. He will have left over material. Needs to be 48 and 3. He was right about the 1oz per lb being 6% though.

Interesting that you said this. I think the math may be a tad bit off. I have 10 oz jars and my vendor recommended 7.76 oz wax or 220 grams. I'm thinking the 8.5 oz may be if measuring the wax as flakes vs liquid. When I weighed my 7.76 oz in flake form, I ended up short. I'm going to try melting the wax and then measuring at 7.76 oz on a scale to see if that will help. Any suggestions on this @candlescience? Should this be weighed on a scale in liquid (not fl oz) form or flake form?

​@@amandarayewilkinsErica from Memory Box Candle Co or Wade from Black Tie Barns has excellent KZfaq videos that will help with your Candle Math so you always have the right amount for your containers. Either one explains it way better than I ever could.

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Very happy to help! Math is the least fun part of the process.

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Math is definitely the least fun part of the process, we're glad we could help!

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So glad it helps! Because all of the ingredients will be measured by weight, you won't need to calculate any of the materials volumetrically. There is typically a difference between the fluid measurement of a container, or how much water it will hold, and the wax weight of that container, or how much wax it can hold. To make this step easier, we list both the fluid volume as well as the wax weight for all of the jars we carry. You can just use the wax weight in your calculations for the most accurate results! This tutorial also touches a bit on the water and wax weight of a container: www.candlescience.com/learning/how-to-make-enamel-mug-candles

Very glad it helped!

I was thinking this exactly when I watched the video. Would be great to get an answer on this!

I believe total should have been 51oz so he should have taken the 3.06oz from the wax to 47.94

@@nancywisniewski8519 there is an equation which is more accurate than the one in this video. I will use an 8oz candle for this example and 10% FO. It is as follows. 8oz. / (100+Fragrance oil percentage) 8oz. / (110%)= 7.27oz (wax weight) 8oz. - 7.27oz= 0.73oz (Fragrance oil) So for an 8oz candle you will need 7.27oz of wax and .73oz of fragrance oil. CHECK 0.73/7.27=0.10 or 10% fragrance oil 7.27+.73= 8oz

@@ruckzb9196 there is an equation which is more accurate than the one in this video. I will use an 8oz candle for this example and 10% FO. It is as follows. 8oz. / (100+Fragrance oil percentage) 8oz. / (110%)= 7.27oz (wax weight) 8oz. - 7.27oz= 0.73oz (Fragrance oil) So for an 8oz candle you will need 7.27oz of wax and .73oz of fragrance oil. CHECK 0.73/7.27=0.10 or 10% fragrance oil 7.27+.73= 8oz

Thats the easiest method. Thank you

You're welcome!

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Hi! Every wax has a maximum amount of fragrance it can hold. Often this is 10% fragrance, but it varies wax to wax. Make sure to check the manufacturer or supplier recommendations for the specific wax you're using.

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The math is definitely the least fun part of the process! If you ever have any questions or concerns though, please feel free to reach out and we'd be happy to help!

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Generally, this is not something you need to worry about and can over-complicate the process. With a typical fill line you will have plenty of room to accommodate the addition of the fragrance.

You are 100% correct, the formula he is doing is incorrect. Shockingly so many of these candlemakers do not show the correct formula. I think many of them know it’s not 100% accurate but are fearful to try and explain the math. Here is a link to probably one of the best videos explaining it and showing you how to do it correctly (I am in no way affiliated with this you tuber) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jM6anNN1rJzFpqM.html

@@wickedwinnie Thanks! I actually came across this youtuber a bit ago and was able to use her formula. There's definitely alot of confusion out there lol. I know alot of folks don't care about the excess, but i definitely do😅

It will be a little over, yes, but in practice you may not have any leftover depending on how high you fill the containers.

there is an equation which is more accurate than the one in this video. I will use an 8oz candle for this example and 10% FO. It is as follows. 8oz. / (100+Fragrance oil percentage) 8oz. / (110%)= 7.27oz (wax weight) 8oz. - 7.27oz= 0.73oz (Fragrance oil) So for an 8oz candle you will need 7.27oz of wax and .73oz of fragrance oil. CHECK 0.73/7.27=0.10 or 10% fragrance oil 7.27+.73= 8oz

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51oz of wax will always weigh 51oz, no matter if you are measuring the flakes or the melted wax. We recommend weighing the wax flakes prior to melting, it's much easier to handle. 🙂

@@candlescience Thank you so much. I wasn't sure if there is a variance in the flakes vs the melted wax. I thought maybe the wax is heavier as flakes which give a variance in numbers. Thanks again.

You will have a bit left over, yes! Some advantages to this are that you'll have some left to fix any flaws that might show in the candles and will have some wiggle room for spills or uneven filling. This is the easiest method but there are ways to calculate the exact amount of wax as well! If you will not have any to spare and are pouring into jars with an ambiguous fill line though, you may need to pour the wax into each jar on a tared out scale to make sure each has the same amount of wax. You can calculate the exact amount needed like this: Wax Needed = Total Combined Weight / (1 + FO Percentage) FO Needed = Wax Needed x (Fragrance Percentage) For example, the calculations for a 16 oz candle at 9% fragrance load would look like this: 16/1.09 = 14.68 This is how much wax you'll need 14.68 x 0.09 = 1.32 This is how much fragrance you'll need So 14.68 + 1.32 = 16 oz, which is the total wax weight of the container. This method is a bit more involved but might be worth trying for larger batches! If you have any questions, please just ask and I'd be happy to help!

@@candlescience thank you this helps out a lot

To measure out the materials, we set our scale to ounces, place a container on the scale, tare it to 0, and pour in the material to the desired amount. This will give you ounces in weight, not fluid ounces. You could absolutely measure in grams instead just be sure to use grams for all of the materials for accuracy!

You may have a bit of leftover wax with this method yes, but it can come in handy to have if you have any sinkholes or imperfections and need a second pour. You can absolutely calculate exactly how much wax and fragrance you will need for a batch of candles using another method but it leaves less room for error. For example, the jars will likely need to be filled on a scale and if there are any spills, there will not be any wax left to complete the entire batch.

We would caution that doing this does shift your fragrance load, since you will now have a higher percentage of fragrance to wax. Just be careful that you aren't exceeding the maximum amount of fragrance that the wax can hold.

@@candlescience can I remelt the wax if I have a fragrance overload too add more wax?

Beeswax can be a little tricky to fragrance as it usually has its own natural, earthy, honey-like aroma. Some fragrances do much better than others, florals tend to perform the best in beeswax. We highly recommend staying away from bakery fragrances in beeswax, as the mix of its natural aroma and bakery scents is usually...not very pleasant. Start experimenting with a 6% - 10% fragrance load.

This is exaclty what I was thinking> There should be an equation that does not give you extra wax. You dont want to waste it if youre running a business.

there is an equation which is more accurate than the one in this video. I will use an 8oz candle for this example and 10% FO. It is as follows. 8oz. / (100+Fragrance oil percentage) 8oz. / (110%)= 7.27oz (wax weight) 8oz. - 7.27oz= 0.73oz (Fragrance oil) So for an 8oz candle you will need 7.27oz of wax and .73oz of fragrance oil. CHECK 0.73/7.27=0.10 or 10% fragrance oil 7.27+.73= 8oz

@@ellesiegmund2640 there is an equation which is more accurate than the one in this video. I will use an 8oz candle for this example and 10% FO. It is as follows. 8oz. / (100+Fragrance oil percentage) 8oz. / (110%)= 7.27oz (wax weight) 8oz. - 7.27oz= 0.73oz (Fragrance oil) So for an 8oz candle you will need 7.27oz of wax and .73oz of fragrance oil. CHECK 0.73/7.27=0.10 or 10% fragrance oil 7.27+.73= 8oz

I'm not familiar with the brand so unfortunately, I'm not able to provide instructions for use in candles, I'm so sorry! If it is a perfume, it will likely not be appropriate for candlemaking. If it is a fragrance oil, there is a better chance it can be used but I would advise using it according to the instructions and not using more than your wax can hold.

Decide on the fragrance load you'd like to work with. 464 can hold a maximum of 10% fragrance, typical usages are anywhere between 6-10%. Once you know the percentage you'd like to use, you can follow the steps in this video to figure out how much fragrance you need.

Hi! You can use any fragrance oil that is intended for use in candles with any wax, unless the manufacturer or supplier notes otherwise. 🙂

Hi! If your wax's max fragrance load is 10% we would not recommend going over that amount. Using too much fragrance oil can actually cause curing and burning issues in the candle. The % is calculated per pound of wax. A 10% fragrance load for 1 lb of wax, for example, would be 1.6 oz of fragrance oil. (16 oz of wax x 0.10 = 1.6 oz of fragrance oil) Some more helpful information can be found here as well: support.candlescience.com/hc/en-us/articles/201389120-How-do-I-calculate-the-amount-of-fragrance-oil-I-need- We recommend starting with a 6% fragrance load to see if you like the strength of the hot throw. You can typically add more based on your preference and wax. Higher percentages do usually provide a stronger scent but you may be happy with the throw of the candle at lower percentages as well.

@@candlescience thank you!

The calculation should work for EO as well! Just be sure to check the usage amounts for the oils and waxes you'll be working with.

Not at all, it's one we get quite a bit! 🙂 A pound of dry wax will still weigh a pound once it's melted--it's only the volume that changes. It's much easier to weigh prior to melting.

@@candlescience hello, how do we calculate how much dry wax we need since the volume changes? For example, if I’m making four 4oz candles, melting 16oz of dry wax isn’t enough to get to my fill lines. Thanks in advance

You absolutely can! This way is just a bit more complicated and does not leave any extra wax but will usually give you the exact wax weight needed to fill a container. The equation we recommend will have a bit of wax and fragrance left over. This can come in handy if you are making larger batches and not filling each vessel on a scale, or if there are any spills or candles that need a second pour. As long as you're not overloading the wax with fragrance and you are happy with the results, no need to change the measurements you've been using!

Yep! You'll just want to be sure to double check the recommended usage amounts of the essential oils and be sure you don't use more than the max fragrance load your wax allows for.

There is some usage information on the fragrance bottles, yes! Most fragrance suggestions for candles falls between 6-10% but this can depend on the wax you'll be using. For using fragrance oil in soaps and lotions though, we would recommend looking at the individual product page as the amount to use can be different for each scent. We also list IFRA documents on each fragrance so you can see the maximum amount safe to use for different bath and body products as well! Using a scale to weigh your materials will be the most accurate way of determining how much of each ingredient to use.

Great question! Labeling by the wax weight is the best and most accurate way of letting the customer know just how much candle they are actually getting. In this case, I'd label the candle as the 9 oz.

Glad you liked it! Whether you make 4 candles or 6, if the fragrance load is the same, it will not change the strength of the candles themselves. Some factors that can influence the scent throw of a candle though, are these: The fragrance load. Typically, a higher fragrance load will result in a stronger smelling candle. You'll just want to be sure not to go over the max load for your wax. The size and shape of your containers. Jars with wide openings can scent a larger room than containers with small openings. Cure time. Scent usually improves over time so we'd recommend curing your candles for at least 3-5 days before burning, but up to 2 weeks can be better! The type of wax. Soy is a great wax but paraffin or a paraffin blend can often throw scent more easily than soy alone. You may want to test a few different waxes or blends if you are not loving the throw of the one you are using now. The wick. You'll also want to make sure the wick is burning properly in the candle as this will get a good melt pool and distribute scent evenly. I hope this helps but please let us know if you have any questions!

@@candlescience thank you very much for your reply. My goal is to have the smelliest, long lasting candle around. I'll do more research to figure out how to do that. Thank you thank you.

Happy to help! If anything else pops up while you're testing, just let us know!

We've found that the easiest formula to use, especially for larger batches, will be: (oz of wax using) x (% of fragrance oil you want to use) = (oz of fragrance oil needed) This formula can sometimes leave a little bit of wax leftover but it can be helpful if there are any sink holes or spills along the way. You may be able to use the formula you've listed but it is likely that there will be no extra material at all and the best way of ensuring accuracy would be to pour each candle on a scale. Without any wax leftover, there is less room for error when pouring to the fill level of your jars.

Hi! This will depend on the fragrance load you will be using. Each wax can have a different maximum fragrance load and we'd recommend not using more than the wax recommends. If you'd like to let us know what fragrance % you'd like to use, we'd be happy to calculate how much fragrance you'd need for six 4oz tins! This equation can also be helpful: (oz of wax using) x (% of fragrance oil you want to use) = (oz of fragrance oil needed)

@@candlescience well I don’t know how much I want but what I do want the candle scent should be diffusing… so that is most important for me

@@candlescience I use your equation but still I have made little leftover of candle so that my mistake. Hopefully it’s will be right next time!

There may still be a bit of extra wax left over in some cases, but there shouldn't be too much. If there is a lot of wax left over each time, you could try adjusting your recipe or reach out to support@candlescience.com with the materials you're using and we'd be happy to see if we can help as well!

I wouldn't recommend this, no. The fragrance oil needs to bind to the wax, otherwise it could potentially catch fire.

We sell fragrance oils in 1 oz, 4 oz, 16 oz, and 5 lb sizes. The large bottle here is a 16 oz and they can be found on the website under the fragrance you are interested in!

You can use the water weight, yes! The measurement might not be exact but it will be close enough to get a good idea of how much wax you'll need. The most accurate way would be to place your jar on a tared out scale and pour melted wax to your desired fill level. The number on the scale would then be your wax weight.

The most accurate way would be to place your empty jar on a scale, tare it out, and pour in melted wax until you reach your desired fill level. The number on the scale will be the wax weight for that jar! You could also estimate by using the water weight of the jar but it may be a little bit off. An example of that can be seen in this tutorial: www.candlescience.com/learning/how-to-make-enamel-mug-candles/

No worries! There are a few different methods to use but the one we like best can result in some extra wax and fragrance being left over. This can be helpful when filling jars that do not have a clear fill line, if there are any spills, or if you need a second pour for any surface issues. There is a more exact calculation but this does not leave any wiggle room and we'd recommend pouring into your jars on a tared out scale to ensure that you are filling each jar with the same amount of wax. If you'd like to try this equation it is this: Wax Weight Needed = Total Combined Weight / (FO Percentage +1) FO Weight Needed = Total Combined Weight - Wax Weight Needed

​@@candlescienceoh that's confusing. I will settle for the extra wax! Lol

For fragrance to bind well to wax we recommend adding it at 185°F. The recommended pouring temp of your wax may be lower. Adding fragrance at too low of a temp and pouring wax at too high of a temp could cause separate issues. If you're using paraffin that has a higher pour temp, around 170-180° F, technically you could try this method but it won't be ideal. I'm actually having a similar issue at the moment where I need to make a lot of smaller candles with different scents. I'd recommend melting your wax in a large batch, holding at 185°F and then pouring it into a smaller pouring pitcher to add your fragrance and then pour into the candle from there. This way, you'll have all your wax and will only need to wipe out the small pitcher a few times.

That's correct! 4 x 8 = 32 oz of wax. 32 x 0.10 = 3.2 oz of fragrance oil. You're good to go!

Happy to help! If the jar you are using holds 308 grams of wax, for three candles you would need 924 grams of wax: (308 x 3 = 924). You would then multiply 924 by the fragrance percentage you'll be using, in this case 12%: (924 x 0.12 = 110.88). You could use 110 grams of fragrance for your batch of three candles. You could also convert the grams to ounces using a converter online if you wanted but as long as you keep your measurement units the same, you should be just fine!

@@candlescience Thank you so much. 🤗 So in order to get 0.12 did you divide by 100? And if I just wanted to make one candle with 12% fragrance would I just do 308 multiped by 0.12 on the calculator it says 36.96 would it just be 36 grams?

Correct! To get the decimal version of the percentage you'd like to use, just divide by 100. For one candle, you could use the same equation and you'd get 36.96 grams of fragrance oil. You can sometimes round up but 12% is usually on the higher side of fragrance loads for most waxes so the 36 grams should be enough for a strong scent throw if your wax can handle that amount.

@@candlescience ok thank you again this was alot of help

@@candlescience Hello I need help with coming up with the cost of how much to sell my candles for can you please help me from start to finish because I dont know where to begin and how to do it?

For the best results in candle making, we recommend measuring out all the materials (wax, fragrance, dye, additives) by weight. We do list the fluid ounces our containers hold on the product pages, but the wax weight is how much wax it will hold compared to water, as it can vary. It's usually easier to measure out the dry or solid wax but because the measurements are by weight and not volume, the weight of the solid wax and the wax when it is melted will be the same.

Technically, yes! Adding 1 oz of fragrance to 16 oz of wax will increase the weight of the materials to 17 oz. You could use 15 oz of wax and 1 oz of fragrance to bring it to a 6.25% fragrance load if you'd like though! This calculation does not leave any room for error though and can be more difficult for larger batches.

@@candlescience thank you so much!

Glad it was helpful!

Remember that everything is done by weight with candle making. It's going to get VERY tricky and frustrating if you are concerned with the volume of the fragrance oil. Every fragrance oil (and wax) has a different density/volume, which is why we always measure by weight. When you're labeling your candles, it is only the net weight that needs to be noted (in both ounces and grams. If you need to have a precise, exact 8.5oz (by weight) candle, we'd recommend pouring with each jar on a scale. Tare the weight of the jar, then pour until you reach 8.5oz.

@@candlescience thank you for the input 😊

Hi! The site is www.candlescience.com!

Like for a blend of fragrances? For a 50/50 blend, for example, you would take the total amount of fragrance oil you'll be using and divide it in half. If you're using 8 oz of fragrance oil, a 50/50 blend of two fragrances would be 4 oz of one and 4 oz of the other to make the 8 oz total. You can do this with other ratios as well!

@@candlescience thank u for responding

Happy to help! A 6% fragrance load in a candle will mean that out of the wax and fragrance combination, 6% of that will be fragrance oil. So the 6% will change based on how much wax you are using. If your jar holds 8 oz of wax, for example, and you want to use a 6% fragrance load, you would need 0.48 oz of fragrance oil. You could then just weigh that amount out on your scale. This is a helpful equation: (oz of wax using) x (% of fragrance oil you want to use) = (oz of fragrance oil needed) For this example, the equation would look like this: 8 x 0.06 = 0.48 I hope this helps but if you have any questions at all please just let me know!

If you are using a CandleScience fragrance oil but there is no percentage listed on the label, the product page for that scent should have that information on it! Typically, the amount safe to use in candles will be from 3-10% but each wax can hold a different max amount of oil. We usually recommend starting with a 6% fragrance load and adjusting from there based on your preference and how much oil your wax can hold.

This is a great suggestion and I'd be happy to offer a short answer in the meantime! Wax is kind of like a sponge for fragrance. Just like when you add water to a sponge, if you add too much it leaks out. Due to the oil content already present in the wax, overloading it with fragrance oil can cause it not to bind. The maximum amount of fragrance oil safe to use for each type of wax is determined by the safety standards and extensive testing done by the manufacturers.

@@candlescience so it doesn't sound like it's the saturation level since you mention it binding to the wax is there a chemical reaction occurring do you happen to know what it the reaction is called. Yes I assumed someone determined the value but I was hoping for overview about the procedure.

We currently only ship within the US, but hope to expand our shipping destinations in the future!

I read somewhere that it is the same. If you were to melt that 51 oz, it would fill all of those jars he listed above.

@@mricejones78 thanks!

If you weigh out 51 oz of solid wax, you will still have 51 oz of melted wax by weight, it will just look like less volumetrically. Measuring your materials by weight and not volume will be the best way to get the most accurate results.

If you know the wax weight of the container you'll be using, you can multiply that number in ounces by the fragrance percentage you'd like to use. If your container holds 8 oz of wax and you'd like to use a 10% fragrance load, for example, you would multiply 8 by 0.10 to get 0.8 oz of fragrance oil. If you're unsure of the wax weight of your jar, the most accurate way of finding it out is by pouring melted wax into the jar placed on a tared out scale. The number displayed will be the ounces of wax your jar will hold by weight.

Yes! Just make sure to stick with the unit of measurement you prefer.

@@candlescience thank you!

Different waxes can have different maximum fragrance loads, correct! Many can handle between 6% and 10% but some may hold less. 1 oz of fragrance oil per 1 lb or 16 oz of wax is about a 6% fragrance load. If you will be using a 6% load for 8 oz of wax, you would need 0.48 ox of fragrance but this can definitely be rounded up to 0.5 oz. To calculate how much fragrance you will need for a particular batch of candles, you can multiply the fragrance % you'd like to use by the total number of wax you'll be using: (fragrance %) x (oz of wax) = total oz of fragrance

@@candlescience Love it thank you so much.

@@candlescience so I measure my cup deducted the weight and star pouring the oil but the scale didn’t even move why was that happening? Should I place the melted wax hot pouring in the scale and trow the oil?

You can calculate exactly how much wax and fragrance you'll need for a batch of candles by first calculating the total ounces you'll need for the batch, then calculating how many ounces of fragrance you'll need for the fragrance load you'll be using, and then subtracting the total ounces of fragrance from the total ounces of wax. This will leave you with only enough wax and fragrance to fill the jars to the same level each time so it will be best practice to fill each jar on a scale. If there are any spills or some jars are over or under-filled, you may run out of wax.