Shoutout to all my broke ppl who can't afford a bicycle but still watch the video because we love boats lol

Nigel Irens,,,, Excellent presentation. Many thanks from Lismore nsw Australia

Finally someone breaks it down. Ive watched 10 videos trying to understand the differences and this helps a lot. very straight forward

I appreciate all the effort from folks who take the time to make a vid and share their experiences and knowledge. The most important thing that I took away from this vid is the the importance of understanding compromise.

Thank you for this video. Very informative.

How refreshing to hear a knowledgeable discussion on the realities of choosing a Cat. So often the discussion centers around two misconceptions 1: Cats are faster than monohulls and 2: Cats make better cruisers than monohulls. Go to any number of the larger sailing forums and you will see the heated discussions. Being a former live aboard cruiser in a 40ft mono I was initially attracted to the two items mentioned above. For our next term afloat I wanted our cake and to eat it too. However when you start to look at actual hard data (ie: passage times) it becomes very apparent that the 40-55ft CondoCats are making very little (if any) improvement in passage times. Downwind times in light air is dreadful and upwind in moderate to strong is terrible on these foil-less Cats. Case in point, a popular KZfaq vessel Cheeky Monkey is currently attempting a passage from Panama to the Galapagos, a 800nm passage of approx five days. Wind and sea conditions are moderate (10-15kts). However the wind is dead on the nose and they are currently 5 days into the passage and have only traveled approx 450nm. And their course has taken them closer to Ecuador than the Galapagos. In reviewing ARC passage times it becomes very apparent that the cruising Cats are not out performing the cruising monos. Clearly there are creature comfort benefits to the Cats, however any purchaser must be aware that they come with a cost, both literally and figuratively. My advise, if you have the budget, look at the Outremers, some Catanas, Schionning or a semi custom vessel such as a Barramundi. Also be aware that Cats need very capable crews and gear to ensure safe passages in big wind, big sea, downwind conditions where under bare poles or minimal canvas, they become a real handful.

Informative video and advises. To be honest our original plan was to start our sailing trip on a catamaran!

Really enjoyed this little series of videos. I'll never be in the financial situation to be able to afford a cat, but it doesn't stop the desire to spend some months sailing on one, or the dreams (and they literally are dreams) of owning one.

Good information, I like the comparisons too. But the sound quality was pretty bad for some reason? And near the end it started focusing on raceboats for some reason?? Most of us watching are more concerned about price, size, living aboard...ect.

brilliant stuff!

Thank you for your video. It did help me sleep...

Thanks Very useful info

I swear I saw trimarans being shown in this video. I saw two red keels on the center hull on the green boat.

Thanks you Nigel

Daggerboards don't just improve performance to windward. Raising them reduces drag and improves downwind and reaching performance too.

Catamarans are a good example for me, for how the world is changing technology-wise. I am old enough to remember how catamarans were still a pretty much unheard of thing. Some weird, new curiosity a small number of boat builders were toying around with. Interesting how far this has come since then. Feels like it was just a few years ago and when I say "I am old enough", I'm not talking about being a 90 year old living fossile, I'm 40. It is the same with other technologies that I remember not existing, but have become ubiquitous since then, like white LEDs for example. I remember being 17, sitting in a high school electronics class and being told by the teacher why red, blue or green LEDs exist, but no white ones and how that is a technology that many people are working on, but nobody could figure out yet, back then. Now it is as if they never not existed, somehow. I can't remember hearing news about white LEDs finally being invented. They just were everywhere one day and I only noticed it in hindsight. Funny how such stuff sneaks up on you. I wonder what the next big trend or breakthrough technology in boat building might be.

You need to add an Expandacraft modular boat to your list of toys on board. You can store a 16 foot boat in a small space below deck instead of littering up the topsides.

Nailed it!

Cheap, fast, good. Pick two.

Sailing a Leopard Cat for the entire series and then bringing in racing cat specialists like Lloyd and the other guy to pass irrelevant comments is like taking a RV out for spin and then asking Daniel Ricciardo to comment on what to buy, this is really crazy stuff and not at all helpful to newbie catamaran buyers

No one ever considers reliability and robustness. Even with all the money in the world a complex comfy boat still has more parts to break which you might not be able to repair at sea or find someone to fix or you'll spend your time repairing it. If you're going long distance offshore, think about robustness, reliability, simplicity, and repairability.

Do we have to see the same intro on every edition of these instructional videos?

I like the Catana 42 the best. Nice compromise.

The comments about Mod 70s and Gunboats, while interesting, are scarcely applicable to cruising cats.

Totally lost their way in this video.. Not for the first time either..

try the Gunboat 55 for performance

High Performace, Comfortable, Cheap. Choose two.

A question? It's still a fortune to me, beeing a financial underdog, but that performance, comfort and high cost is easy. Grainger 10.2 dagger cat. Seems like it can be had for arround 70k and able to do 16+kt. Thoughts?

Nigel why hasn't anybody built hulls (asymmetrical) like Hobie Cat does, NO center board and NO Keels, I am talking big Cats. I had a 14 foot Hobie and a 16 foot Hobie back in the 70s. A catamaran is just a dream. Thanks

Why not included trymarains in this documentary? Comparable in speed? What's the main difference besides an extra hull.

Can you discuss which boats experience the least bridge-deck slamming, and what design features give this result. For instance, a minimum amount of clearance for the length or width.

Ive always heard monohulls are better, but id sure love to learn how to sail a cat. If they truly are faster, safer, and more comfy for crossing oceans i sure will get one ! Anybody have any thoughts on this ?

The triangle is from Tom Follet. Why not attribute it to him? Why is the Marconi rig being assumed? It's not as though Mr. Irens isn't familiar with unstayed masts. It's also nice to pick a boat that isn't likely to have a bow break off....yes, I'm looking at you, Mr. Irens.

The boats can typically travel at speeds over 80 knots (150 km/h, 90 mph) in calm waters, over 50 knots (90 km/h) in choppy waters, and maintain 25 knots (47 km/h) in the average five to seven foot (1.5 to 2 m) Caribbean seas.

I am different, my dream boat is the open ocean 800 expedition catamaran. I really want that boat bad.

Hobie cat 16..... 👏

The videos title betrays the type of vessel illustrating the best performance. Anyone should know that Trimarans will always outperform cats on the high seas. Period. The problem is the Trimaran offerings for cruising are extremely limited. The only ones building Trimarans targeted to the cruising market are RAPIDO and NEEL. Two completely different approaches; RAPIDO has focused on both luxury and extreme performance while NEEL appears to be more comfort oriented. Much better looking than most cruising cats that look a bit silly. The dragonfly’s are nice but are hitting a different demographic.’ Not sure on their blue water chops either. The lagoon is probably one of the homeliest looking boats I’ve ever seen. The gold standard for cruising Catamarans used to be the Peter Spronk designs now its Gunboat or Outremer. I think on the coming years we’ll see more cruising Trimarans.

Hello, wife and I are planning in retirement and buy a sell boat to sell from Florida to Brazil. Can anyone give an idea what size sell boat safety wise ? Thank you

Some good points but I would disagree about an economy priced boat costing less to maintain. Often times what you save in buying a low priced boat is much less than what it costs to maintain a boat; especially if the components are not marine quality.

You should of wrote prices for racing boats

How much is too fast? Look at the AC75's doing 53 knots in a monohull.

What about a hydrofoil solution. What I understand is that this is about to be popular.

My Question is, why are boats so expensive even though there are lots of them around? why is it even expensive to salvage an abandoned boat that i could use, fix and live on when there are so many of them just floating on top of water??

"Economy - cheap to buy or cheap to run as well." I didn't realize there was such thing for sailboats.

My dream cruising cat would be a Privilege 585 built out of carbon, with oversized carbon rotating wing mast for oversized sail plan, carbon rigging and massive carbon dagger boards (similar to the ones on Gunboat extreme H2O) Basically A hotted up Rolls Royce....

best offshore cats for under 100k ?

My god they need to work on their sound editing

Where is episode 7?

I want a trimaran! :)

There's a better solution, answer 5 questions and the CatamaranFinder will give you the three best matching catamarans! It gave me 86% match on the Dazcat Ocean Cruiser 55!

One would take their living room to the racetrack however

For broke folks, I suspect the Wharram cat is what’s available and seldom spoken of in videos like this

Nice wig mate.

Nice video but where are the catamaran sailing techniques?

Cats aren't cheap. They should be around 200k-300k max for biggest size.so in the future almost everyone on this so-call planet earth should live anywhere they want.

Gunboat

3:48 HOW FAST ARE THEY GOING? Why would anyone need to sail that fast...I am a complete novice, my wife and I are talking about selling everything and jumping in this head first...

Read between the lines....buy a mono if you want to sail...buy a condomaran if you like to motor around and look cool.

W-what?

Ok, I guess this video was a total waste of my time, since it does not really help you on "How to choose a catamaran"!!!

just buy a gunboat.

Only for the very rich.

well I wanted family car that was sort of fun to drive , well you will a turbo charged open when wheel mono-cock construction . there is absolutely nothing the middle . Bullshit . I have after 40 plus years of sailing that the shittiest over weighted cat will blow the battens of a traditional full keel mono hull cruiser or for that matter a J boat. Instead of four -five knots you are looking 7-10 that's huge . this video was completely dumb.

Nothing of relevance here jumping from cruising car to race cat - 90% of people out there are only looking into cruising lifestyle not to race - so why bring up the race aspect into this video- I did not benefit anything from your video