How to choose the RIGHT drywall compound for your job

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Жыл бұрын

Using the wrong product can cause failures! In this video I go over what compounds to tape with, coat with and texture with. They are all a bit different and picking the right one will give you a better finish.
Previously aired on buildshownetwork.com

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@terrydaugherty2216 4 ай бұрын

As a 45 yr professional drywall taping specialist all purpose for taping because of the glue and hardening for structure.Ultra light weight cannot be beat for bed coating and skim coating.Super smooth and easy to sand.And no mesh tape, cracks !

@CFLavertu 4 ай бұрын

Mesh tape doesn’t crack if you use hot mud to bond it because its much stickier and sturdier

@navigatormoore Жыл бұрын

This is EXTREMELY helpful and has answered and solved the failing issues that I have experienced with the use of varying compounds. I've used AP with mesh and it turned out exactly as you explained. Shrinkage covering screws...as you explained. Painting over hot mud...as you explained. It all makes complete sense to me now and this particular post is the missing piece to my puzzle. I know for a fact that my next finish is going to be AMAZING because of this🙆‍♂...thank you Short One (of walls that are dried) 🙏

@Favx Жыл бұрын

In depth explanations of the materials, uses and personal experiences of performance/ the way the products respond. Lot of great information, keep these format videos on some of the other stuff in the trade

@DrywallShorty Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@officesuperhero9611 Жыл бұрын

Always appreciate your teaching and sharing your knowledge. Thank you.

@steveschneider7079 10 ай бұрын

I use durabond 90 on everything for 1st coat!! If you don't like to sand don't use it unless you are good!! I have been using it for over 40 years and it is what makes my jobs so good!!

@brianherald5756 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree 100%

@georgedavall9449 Ай бұрын

Yeah steve, I even use it in my corn flakes! 😆 😯 😂

@Vincerama 7 күн бұрын

I used durabond 90, applied thick, to replace a section of broken lath & plaster. It's a good substitute for plaster if you can't find structolite or real plaster, whatever real plaster is. I finished it with all purpose. Turned out great!

@cooperdog9956 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the detailed video! I am a DYIer and just left the big box store and needed an expert to give me a clue on what to purchase!!!

@DrywallShorty 7 ай бұрын

You are so welcome! Glad it helped!

@cfomusic73 Жыл бұрын

Damn so many choices. I'm just going to stick to 5 minute to prefill 45 for taping with fiberfuse and 45 for topping. That's it. Just need two types of bags in my car. I feel like plus three shrinks way too much and all purpose takes too long to dry. I want to get my tapeing and topping done in one day. Now granted it's usually just a bathroom or a kitchen so anything larger than you would probably want to use buckets. What I would like to see from you is how you apply each mud for each stage of the drywall mudding process.

@nickmoffett4000 3 ай бұрын

so much valuable info, this is a mini masterclass in drywall. every second is value.

@Detroit_Playa 4 ай бұрын

As someone who nerds out on every subject I get into I really really appreciate this video thank you ❤

@riceburner4747 3 ай бұрын

U put out great videos, Lydia. You're very thorough & explain in detail. I find you very interesting & u are very good at your trade! 👍

@johnhill4399 6 ай бұрын

I like to use 20 minute mud for patching i use a drill with a beater and mix it in my mud pan then scrape the sides down with a 6 inch knife and mix again takes 95 percent of the lumps out

@shippingdepartment7114 5 ай бұрын

You are absolutely amazing! Thank you for the great video. Helps a DIYer like me a ton!

@DrywallShorty 5 ай бұрын

Thank you!! So glad it helps!

@bigsky2081 25 күн бұрын

Thanks. I did learn something today!

@handyman2155 3 ай бұрын

You are truly the BEST…

@user-in9gf4jf4o 5 ай бұрын

Great video. Good information however most of the muds you coverd are usually only available in large urban areas. I live in a very rural area so we only get AP or topping at our local Ace Hardware. I had to talk them in to carrying hot mud. 20 minute or 90 minute is as far as they'd go lol. Love your work. Keep at it.

@DrywallShorty 5 ай бұрын

Thank you! And bummer about the available options, maybe you can talk them into carrying some plus 3!

@malekodesouza7255 4 ай бұрын

I’m remodeling a bathroom/laundry room. This was a huge help.

@CFLavertu 4 ай бұрын

She said you don’t need any of her tips for small jobs. Get yourself some all purpose lite and you can do any job start to finish with it

@skydome777 7 ай бұрын

Good stuff, sis!! Thank you!!!

@johnfenton7906 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for the great information.

@thesurfcontinuum 7 ай бұрын

Thank you ! Super helpful.

@pathtofamegaming8033 11 ай бұрын

Its the OG for me lol been using green lid for ten years, youre not wrong its hard and makes you a lot neater. I tried blue top once and it seemed like i had touch ups everywhere. Maybe i was doing it wrong, doesnt help i sand with led lights and check from all angles lol

@MrRustydawg 8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for this informative video.

@citytonightproductions Жыл бұрын

Great video, very informative. Just for clarity, I use hot mud with Fibafuse all the time with amazing results. It doesn’t need to be used with mesh tape only. Give it a try

@victorclare9376 10 ай бұрын

Hi . I learned something new today. thank you

@DrywallShorty 10 ай бұрын

Awesome! Hope it helps!

@randyhernandez9328 Жыл бұрын

I like mixing the og green all purpose and the plus 3 blue to shoot orange peel and knockdown.

@PurityPainting 4 ай бұрын

I don't know if they sell it where you are, but here in Canada, machine mud, sheet rock 20, and sheet rock 45 are the go-to bags and boxes. We are painters, but we board, mud, tape, and finish with machine mud and sheetrock all the time.

@Michael-hq1iq 3 ай бұрын

before there was "hot muds" we combined all purpose with water and moulding plaster which depending on the ratios dries exceptionally fast and can be recoated quickly and another bonus is it doesnt shrink at all . this method is far more economical than any hot muds .

@reeseeulert5107 7 ай бұрын

Pretty much agree with everything you said. All purpose for tape and plus 3 for all other finishing stages. only difference for me is I use all purpose for a base coat the adhere corner beed then top with plus 3. hot mud for blowouts and general drywall patching

@shotbyrome 3 ай бұрын

When she says for tape, are you talking about to apply the tape use the one or over the tape?

@MrAlejandro4325 2 ай бұрын

@@shotbyrometo apply the tape

@vicferrarisgarage 3 ай бұрын

I flip. When repairing ceiling we get cracks over and over & over. What mud is best. Florida humidity. What are we doing wrong

@easypainterslondon 9 ай бұрын

Great info thanks for the info

@aukey3407 10 ай бұрын

Useful video thanks

@CrowsCrossing9 6 ай бұрын

Wonderful explanation thank you so much. My dad loved drywall and did it to all the houses that he built it was his favorite part like he was frosting on cake. He used to use just the general use covering just the top with a little bit of palm, olive and water. When he used it for texture, he would add water and a cheap acrylic enamel to hold a texture. What are your thoughts on this?

@joesheeder4280 Жыл бұрын

I love the hot mud for orange peel. I’ve never had a single issue.

@Knome-Ansland Жыл бұрын

I had some 3 year old plus 3 in a bucket that I watered down and used. Bad mistake! I had no idea it had a shelf life.

@PrinceAsmodeus Жыл бұрын

I only ever see all purpose and lightweight in stores. Blue and green.

@kceynelson 9 ай бұрын

It’s interesting how different things are other places. We only use yellow and red boxes. Fastex blue boxes for the spray rig. I’ve never even seen the green box

@GRGWHNGN 8 ай бұрын

Really that's all you need, all purpose for base coats and light to finish

@mikemorales2120 7 ай бұрын

Good 4 u nerd

@mickfalvey6045 6 ай бұрын

I wish we could get boxed mud in Australia. It looks l I’ll e it’s good to work with in all the you tubes I watch. I’ve tried so many times with the powder stuff and every time I end up with three quarters of it thrown out cos it had set up

@Sidneys-Painting-N-Drywall 9 ай бұрын

In NOLA we have All Purpose and Plus 3. Every once in awhile, Ultra Lightweight, but it's rare to find.

@PolaCaKe890 6 ай бұрын

Thank you

@Rob_1776 3 ай бұрын

I believe the only ones of these muds! Where I live Is The green AP Plus 3 and the light green ultra lightweight! And of course easy sand hot muds!

@matthewcalabro4774 Ай бұрын

Here is Canada there's red, light blue, dark blue, yellow and green...The one mostly used here is Mud Pro

@scottshillito6231 Ай бұрын

Very helpful video! What mud do you prefer for skim coating previously painted walls?

@brianpimental2948 4 ай бұрын

I love Bozeman i was born there. I miss Bogart park and the pickle barrel

@senditreloadit 5 ай бұрын

So all purpose for screws, filling joints and applying tape then plus 3 for the rest of the top coats?

@darwinbodero7872 4 ай бұрын

Ive only ever seen the green and blue lids, dust control, and the easy sands. Never seen silver set.

@TheBamster00 5 ай бұрын

Good video. Have you tried the Total? I like it better than the All Purpose. Same weight but better slip and easier to sand.

@charlesviner1565 7 ай бұрын

Just subscribed 👍

@DrywallShorty 7 ай бұрын

thank you!

@raylaclair5138 2 ай бұрын

You are a great teacher where did you learn all that shit back in the day the old guys did not tel all ha ha we some time wood put floor pack in the mud but doesn't paint well dry fast a d hard 😉

@theamerican4609 6 ай бұрын

I have always found all-purpose to sand very easily and the fast setting difficult to sand.

@user-hv8cw3lj4m Жыл бұрын

do you recommend the fastex for knockdown texture as well?

@JB-sz3yw 5 ай бұрын

The Pro Form is the best compound out there. There is no need for buckets off All-purpose & Plus 3. The Pro Form does them all.

@krob777 5 ай бұрын

As all trades they use one type material more than the other label these in percentages which you use the most

@mr.volleyball13 2 ай бұрын

What is the best option for building up an outside 45 (135). Framing at my house is very poor. I did what I could to shim, however, still going to have to build up in order to meet in the corners. Any advice would be awesome.

@jerrold3685 5 ай бұрын

Have you ever tried prefilling with a nail spotter on butt joints? I get that nobody really owns one anymore because they don't work on screws so well. We used to do that. Saves a ton of time, especially on ceilings. I'd have my parter rig up a pole with a knife and back wipe so there wasn't any build up before the tape. Also, we did make it work on ceiling screws, just back wipe in the opposite direction. You can pay me later 😂

@DrywallShorty 5 ай бұрын

I have heard of that! I don't use a nail spotter very often, we don't sand our screws very often so I do them by hand and keep them super clean

@bigblack262black8 2 ай бұрын

Which one should I use It's my first time using it I did my Little basement bathroom. So a lot of people won't see. It is just a toilet and a sink in there? So pretty much looking for something to tape with And to cover Up my screws with and whatever Step come next before I can prime and paint. So which, what do you recommend me to go with? I'm just confused on which one to pick I am just a first time person.

@MAGAMAN 10 ай бұрын

"We pre-fill our butts" lol (Yes, I have the sense of humor of a 10 year old)

@towndrunkjr.5420 10 ай бұрын

I prefer to sweep up after the sanders, sift the gravel out, add water and whip it back into mud. Saves money, and saves the environment

@94hkc Ай бұрын

I live up in canada so I don't know if you're familiar with cgc machine mud? If so, what are your thoughts on it? Thanks for the videos!

@KevinSutherland-yh1uk Жыл бұрын

And I do get a lot of knowledge from Watching your videos so thank you for that

@Reign_In_Blood_963 9 ай бұрын

Awesome break down on mud types and uses. I got a home reno DIY going on and it's been years since I've finished any drywall. I'm planning on changing all of my doorways to arched tops with either chamfer or bullnose corner beads. Any tips?

@DrywallShorty 9 ай бұрын

Chamfer is really neat looking! I love it! Make sure whatever you choose that they have it in stock or they can get order it for you. Sometimes they don't have the specialty products like chamfer in stock.

@Reign_In_Blood_963 9 ай бұрын

@@DrywallShorty DIY Stores near me only have traditional corner. So I will have to special order it. Are there supply houses for drywall? Could check there.

@Lugenfabrik 10 ай бұрын

For over 20 years I’ve been using all purpose mud in the plastic buckets for all stages of drywall in my diy stuff. I just thought that rock hard (impossible to sand) joint compound was a law of the universe. Imagining my elation the first time I tried plus3 😂

@TapelessDrywallFinishing Жыл бұрын

👍👍

@CFLavertu 4 ай бұрын

100% agree that its all useless unless you mud for a living on really big jobs that require over 20boxes of mud at least to get the job done

@thenexthobby 4 ай бұрын

USG literally now has one called, TOTAL. They describe it as “complete all purpose,” which isn’t redundant … that’s just your imagination. I expect them to next introduce “COMPLETE,” followed by, “DONT’T EVEN THINK ABOUT USING ANYTHING ELSE.”

@TheRealVsauce 9 ай бұрын

U da 💣 gf! How you feel about Durabond?

@ChrisLascari 2 ай бұрын

You never even had regular old fashioned topping...

@DavidWayne-jv1tl 11 күн бұрын

There is only one brand. Ruco straight out of the bucket.

@SalPane1224 Жыл бұрын

🤓👍

@KevinSutherland-yh1uk Жыл бұрын

I meant to say I'm one of my comments at the end of it I never get sick of a Play

@mattwarrensocal 3 ай бұрын

3.5 gal regular is 48 lbs. Light is 30. Gonna take that 30.

@thenexthobby 4 ай бұрын

1. Learn how to best use what’s available. 2. Most of these won’t be available where you live.

@user-jk4xc1eq3q Жыл бұрын

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@fbad3 Жыл бұрын

Please, please, PLEASE do NOT use anything but taping lite or USG green lid to tape, PLEASE!

@DrywallShorty Жыл бұрын

I would like to know why you think taping lite or USG All purpose are the only good options?

@fbad3 Жыл бұрын

@@DrywallShortySimply suggest DIYers use green lid/taping mud as it will help lessen the chance of tape bubbles due to the extra adhesive, IMO, not to mention a stronger base that's less likely to crack and finally it's just the professional thing to do. I do not see professional finishers using lite AP for taping and I imagine there's a good reason for it. Just trying to help the DIYers out based on my experience. Im not a pro, just a DIYer. If I recall correctly, you use green lid for taping, at least that's what you've recommended using in previous videos?

@fbad3 Жыл бұрын

I don't imagine you disagree with my 1st comment, and you said in the video you don't tape with +3 but it's OK to tape with 'all purpose lite' (isn't +3 an lite AP?) so I'm just curious now why you suggest APL but not +3 (Not being a jerk, seeking to learn from a pro, would like to hear your thoughts/input on this 👍).

@DrywallShorty Жыл бұрын

Green is great to tape with - one thing I always caution is that it sets very hard. If you're really messy it can cause issues later. You need to make sure you clean up after and don't have drops of mud all over. Depending on the job, the season and how much heat is supplied will change what were taping with. During the winter we have longer working times when taping so we will use AP, it also tends to dry faster so we know everything will be set the next day. During the summer we switch the lightweight taping. It has more working time so we can tape out 4 rooms of angles and then fall back and pick the 3 ways without worrying about it being partially dry. Lightweight taping is really nice to tape with, it has a ton of glue and a strong bond, hence why it's specifically made for taping with. We do not do any coat work with Lightweight taping, it shrinks too much and isn't made for coat work. After taping we switch to Plus 3 for the top and skim work. It coats very nicely, sands easily and has great slip. For texture we then switch to using Beadex all purpose (red box) or if doing a spray texture Fastex.

@fbad3 Жыл бұрын

@@DrywallShorty Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@ChrisLascari 2 ай бұрын

Plus 3 sucks, its like marshmallow cream

@CybekCusal 3 ай бұрын

Clearly a sponsored video. Looking elsewhere for honest advice.

@UnderBakedOverEngineered 2 ай бұрын

Meh, she gave a very useful overview of different types and purposes. They didn't denigrate competitors nor suggest these are the only options. I will happily accept this kind of sponsored content; a trade of reasonable brand exposure for useful information.

@CybekCusal 2 ай бұрын

@@UnderBakedOverEngineered good go make your own thread and leave a positive comment and leave me alone

@TOMVUTHEPIMP 4 ай бұрын

Shes just causing more confusion for the DIY people and spewing sales BS. You can do a whole house with 90 hotmud and all purpose. No need for the confusion. Both of which you can find at any big box store.

@fasteddie8782 Жыл бұрын

I was just wondering cuz there's so many different kinds now I'm old-school just dura Bond 90 and brown bags and white, but there's so many different kinds.. Thanks

@DrywallShorty Жыл бұрын

No problem!