How to Convert 1s BMS Module to 3s, 4s, 5s Lithium-ion Battery BMS

How to Convert 1s BMS Module to 3s, 4s, 5s Lithium-ion Battery BMS | Save money & charge Battery

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@edgielaksamana 4 ай бұрын

ang galing itry kondin yan converted pede sa 5v charger and 12v charger double purposed sha great job brother

@DreamFinder 4 ай бұрын

Thanks bro

@luiznicolau6720 2 жыл бұрын

If two batteries charge before the third, the third charger Will get all voltage, só it Will burn,,, consider that current stops While batery is full.

@putinhatdenkleinsten7146 2 жыл бұрын

Das gibt ein tolles Feuerwerk!

@alexandrudiculescu6996 Жыл бұрын

Kids, don't try that, it will only damage your batteries and charging module. Be safe when play with li-ion batteries and get a proper BMS and charger

@Iamsuccesspro 2 жыл бұрын

Wow you're a genius

@mohammadshoykot7188 7 ай бұрын

Thanks form Bangladesh

@DreamFinder 7 ай бұрын

Welcome bro

@martinb.770 2 жыл бұрын

Another vid introducing bad ideas to people, knowing even less, than the originator: Sure: connecting the single boards this way charges 3 cells at the same time, but you win pretty much nothing, apart from using a 12V source instead of one 5V source with more ampere: *) you still cannot use the charged cells as a 12V/11.1V 3s-power source. *) What about the charging current? IMHO it is limited to the current of the slowest cell. And what happens, if one cell isn't present at all?!?!? *) no real balancing function *) 12V will not load the cells to their limit of typical 4.2V, but rather 80% - IF cells are being drawn equally. *) the role of the diodes is not explained, nor the type/their voltage drop They look like some 1A+ type. (didn't look them up) *) soldering the cells instead of changeable slots -> if the cells are used quite differently, at a current >> the one the 4056 can provide --> smoke? The 4056 allows for different charging speeds (via changing some resistor on the board) - it'd be much more interesting, to have add a switchable current/capacity charger.

@overPowerPenguin Жыл бұрын

Use a proper 3S circuit board to manage the battery charging and discharging. There's many flaws in this design, as these boards are designed in mind to handle only one battery at a time. What you can do safely? Wire them in PARALEL not series with a source of 5V - 3Amps, and charge batteries in paralel without any connection to each other board.

@jorgecarlosmogollonrojas5536 Жыл бұрын

Pero tengo entendido que un BMS solo controla la descarga, mas no la carga, y si no fuese asi que codigo de modulo BMS recomiendas??

@overPowerPenguin Жыл бұрын

@@jorgecarlosmogollonrojas5536 BMS should implement safety triggers for both charging and discharging. BMS should be used only for what it is designed for, like 1S BMS only with 1S battery, 3S with 3S battery and so on. You can put the same cells in parallel to increase the capacity while maintaining the 1S, for example, put 3 cells in parallel they are still 1S. IMPORTANT: Cells should be from the same lot (manufacturer, year, same usage, preferably new), and balanced when you put them together (have same voltage). It is, even like this, unsafe, as the BMS designed for 1S 1P (1 series, 1 parallel) would not have balance charging along all the cells put in parallel, but let's say if you respect what I've said (same lot, manufacturer, year, date, usage-preferably new), you are quite safe for 2 or 3 cells in parallel.

@Suzuki_Hiakura 10 ай бұрын

I either saw a KZfaq video showing a person wiring these BMS boards in parallel or figured that out after seeing something similarly mentioned. I also saw in a video where someone applied thermal plaster and a small heatsink to limit heat buildup in larger 1s setups... still took the KZfaqr like 7 hours to charge the battery, but was able to constantly output 1amp safely. I never intended to follow this project, as I remember hearing of all the difficulty and risks of getting a few BMS boards to work together in series (I bought about 20 or so of these Lipos that are thin, like phone batteries, and come with a decent BMS installed already).

@overPowerPenguin 10 ай бұрын

@@Suzuki_Hiakura It's not about heat, thermal safety or similar. 1S BMS can't handle balance charging, and can't current limit the output properly and so on. If the piece of hardware is not designed to work like this, and imply a possible fire hazard, then don't use it like this.

@Suzuki_Hiakura 10 ай бұрын

@@overPowerPenguin the first part of my comment was referring to your closing statement. My second part covered what I heard of using simple 1s BMS boards in series.

@amobenpro Ай бұрын

thanks alot، was so helpful.

@DreamFinder Ай бұрын

Thanks

@ahmedsoffy581 8 ай бұрын

if this method is true so why you don't complete the video until all boards shown blue lights ?????

@gogaberg2446 11 ай бұрын

Батареи не соединены вместе. Если их соединить как в батарее электроскутера, произойдёт короткое замыкание.

@ktmacia 2 жыл бұрын

The charger should be 15 volts so that the batteries reach 4.2v

@julikb Жыл бұрын

12,6

@roy2689 Жыл бұрын

the problem I see here is that the batteries are not connected together so there is not a battery pack as such, joining them together to make a pack of ~12v battery pack would short the diodes out and make them redundant...

@paparaginpatriot3954 Жыл бұрын

I'm no engineer, but wouldn't the output of the modules be virtually the same as soldering or welding the cells together, but instead they're individually protected?

@kepler_45 2 жыл бұрын

Actualy its fine a single module ,it depends on the amperage of the batteries, its just a security thing

@Safeerv 6 ай бұрын

Nice work

@user-if4ec5pg3k Жыл бұрын

You best Εσύ ο Μεγάλος

@thebongmadness9108 3 ай бұрын

It will never give 12v...its almost 11.3v ...bcz voltage consumed by two diode is 1.3v and .66 for each.

@fu1r4 Жыл бұрын

It is better to buy the correct BMS. A 3S 40A Balanced BMS cost $1.23. Not worth the hassle to do your own...

@Jaytehc 2 жыл бұрын

Good job

@maheshjatav5783 2 жыл бұрын

If anyone needs anything from this, please get in touch.

@andywong1782 3 ай бұрын

if i intend to charge all 3 at the same time using 1 usb port (5v), can i solder them in parallel rather than in series for the 12v charging?

@educationaltechnology8363 2 жыл бұрын

hi I have a battery that already has a protection and the question is will this cause a problem if i use a charger chip that has another protection?

@SantoshTupsy 2 жыл бұрын

Tried this exactly with diode.....but the last MODULE keeps getting hot on idle. Changed the module....but same problem... What can be done.... ..

@giordanobruno2856 3 жыл бұрын

This looks like a really bad idea. FIrst of all, BMS = Battery Management System, the first modules in the video are BMS but the one that was chosen is a CHARGER. Second, it uses the TP4056 chip which was not designed to operate this way, and could cause all kinds of problems, including causing the batteries to get on fire or explode.

@Super_Natural_Power 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your info. I agree.

@DreamFinder 2 жыл бұрын

Some mistake of you my dear, all bms are 1 sell, and supplying voltage of depend on total BMS voltage and it share with series.

@giordanobruno2856 2 жыл бұрын

@@DreamFinder ok, but TP4056 is not a BMS, it is a chip designed to be a 1 cell charger

@retrorocketman6969 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the honesty. I would like to have your opinion on this thought. What if each battery has a its own protector board. like cellphone batteries. anyway the purpose of charging them with the proper 4.2 limit but needing the 8.4 +/- volts for instance of using 2. I assume not to try it. If not, could you guide me in the direction of figuring out how to use 2 cell batteries in a series and being able to charge them safe. hopefully a DIY way. i have no budget to work with

@subhamdas2491 2 жыл бұрын

I tried & its burn a tp4056 module

@samer-pn3vb Ай бұрын

hi can we use 1s 3a circuit instead of this one to get high amp

@PraveenKumar-kj5hn 2 жыл бұрын

Amp.kya 7 ya 7.5 hoga

@BeWolf. 9 ай бұрын

The correct when using the TP4056, is to connect in parallel, feeding with 5V and 3A or more, so you can load a pack 3s quietly without problems, because each cell will be charged individually. The B3 lipo chargers, use TP4056 in parallel.

@matiaschaied6369 2 жыл бұрын

With that connections you are actually shorting the chargers as you see when you plugged them in the chargers that has the current led on , (red led on), cause you are shorting them with the connections that you made so its a bad idea to use them like this. Keep doing videos but learn from your mistakes!

@Tactar.safari.9057. 2 жыл бұрын

Singal charge kare to Out put series me or input charger se de to separate

@shahidzaman4955 2 жыл бұрын

Kiya me is circuit se 12 v lithium cells charge krsakta hun?

@paparaginpatriot3954 Жыл бұрын

I'm no engineer, but if you connected all the modules' 5v charge inputs in parallel, you should be able to connect one usb cable to charge them all at the same time, no? That way you don't have to mess with inputting 12v across the three or charging one at a time.

@ahmadseblini5184 11 ай бұрын

No you cant as these are not isolated converter, by doing so you will shortcircuit the batteries

@electroman1556 3 жыл бұрын

Wow

@sivashankar1361 3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@riteshsinha5900 6 ай бұрын

diodes causing V-drop and as someone already said you can power them in parallel /

@KutsiTekin Жыл бұрын

How can we do the same with Solar charge controller?

@vishnuprasadkambalavenkata702 2 жыл бұрын

The video is not complete. It left the viewers in confusion. There no explanation as to how it works as a 3s bms or 4s bms.

@DreamFinder 2 жыл бұрын

It's difficult to maintain input voltage, so use separate BMS

@BomJimmy 2 жыл бұрын

@@DreamFinder eBay. Makes this arrangement as a junk.

@sumitsinghthakur4328 2 жыл бұрын

bro mere pas 3 different types mah ki 18650 batteries h kiya mai power pack bana sakta hon with bms?

@orlatris96 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I loved your project, excellent, congratulations. I would like to use this idea of yours. Could you please answer some questions for me? I'm going to replace the 6v lead battery of a children's electric motorcycle with a 18650 lithium battery. I'm going to make a 2S pack. Can this project of yours be done with just two cells? Will I have to replace any components? Thank you very much for your attention. I wish you to continue with your projects. A hug

@DreamFinder 2 жыл бұрын

dear bro this experiment project, please use 2s bms for charging of babies bike.

@yuumi925 2 жыл бұрын

i think the motorcycle wil pull to much amps from the circuit. they can only provide 1amp i think.

@andywong1782 3 ай бұрын

what if you dont install the diode? what will happened?

@rishushriwastav4149 2 ай бұрын

Sir I want to make 4s battery one like you so can I charge it with laptop charger?

@FASr7 2 жыл бұрын

How can be with reverse voltage of full battery on the closed BMS transistor in discharge mode?

@DreamFinder 2 жыл бұрын

I've no experience bro

@tech4green 2 ай бұрын

👍😍😍

@AmitKumar-uv9ug 3 жыл бұрын

Sir beech wala me dono indicator on kyo hote hai charging time

@valeriovettori8343 7 ай бұрын

This don't charge 3S battery.... but x3 battery by 1S... If you connect the same using 3S battery pack you will short circuit your diodes....

@KHOAIHOANG81 2 жыл бұрын

That Good...!!!

@DreamFinder 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@mediatrix1111 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dream Finder. These individual battery protection circuit boards can handle a max of 1 Amp. Would there be a problem if I make this same 3nos series circuit for 3nos 3.7v battery and use it for my UPS? The problem I am concerned about is if the UPS 14v charging voltage is 3 or 4 amps. Would it blow the circuit I have made? What is you take on this?

@yuumi925 2 жыл бұрын

i used a separate charge source for the 12v batery pack. and use a full bridge rectifier on the battery to ups. that way the ups can't charge the battery but can draw power from the pack.

@chikenpaww Жыл бұрын

it sure does work but you need several phone charger and avoid ground loop

@DreamFinder Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@zynken8035 2 жыл бұрын

Sir, can I use this method to make 4s BMS... I want to make 3.7x4 ups for arduino with dc step down module (12v)

@rexizs6767 Жыл бұрын

use 1s battery pack and step up module

@kabaneiros 2 жыл бұрын

Готовая плата мягко говоря лучше, учитывая сколько она стоит. Она ещё и как защита работает, а тут ерунда полная выходит

@DimaVsegdaPrav 2 жыл бұрын

Если одна плата уйдёт в защиту, она тут же хапнет напряжение обратной пооярности на выхода

@DimaVsegdaPrav 2 жыл бұрын

Хоть бы диоды поставил на выхода (параллельно выходам)

@isharalkshan7 2 жыл бұрын

what is the input voltage you given to this 3 modules

@ericsinclair4704 Жыл бұрын

12v it's in the video

@johndii2194 2 жыл бұрын

This is cool. I fooled around with this idea but didn't think of diodes to isolate the boards. This should be good as a low current battery supply (500mA) because the boards can only switch about 1 amp through their output circuits and the diodes are 1 amp. Each board contains two circuits. One shuts the input voltage to the cell off at 4.2 volts. The other circuit shuts off the output voltage when the cell drops below 2.9 volts.

@novari17 3 жыл бұрын

Top

@Hoang-An-Beo 2 жыл бұрын

E làm thử sac ko vô điện

@rinogiordano7854 Жыл бұрын

Ciao, ho fatto il collegamento come da video, ma, usando un alimentatore a 12V vedo che una sola luce blu si accende dopo molto tempo in carica. Uso un alimentatore 12V 1 A. E' forse poco ?

@Andrei011000 2 жыл бұрын

Для низкого потребления пойдет!!, для больших токов, надо по другому.

@ramshankarmajhi7892 Жыл бұрын

I have Four 3.7V 1800mAh li battery packs. If I wire the four 1800mah cell in parallel to make a 7200mAh cell..which type of BMS i need?plz give me Order Link 🙏🎉🙏

@aditya_patil 17 күн бұрын

Use single tp4056 charging module, or use multiple in parallel for Faster charging....

@madanpradhan5851 3 жыл бұрын

I want for 3×3 = 9 Cells for Activa Scooter. Circuit Chalega.

@RafiqExperiment 2 жыл бұрын

Bilkul aap 3 charging module ko aek sath laga ke 3s BMS bana sakte he

@H_Hubaish Жыл бұрын

Pls explain what you are doing

@DreamFinder Жыл бұрын

See again

@zahidahmad6255 Жыл бұрын

In cello ka inpot uor out pot kaha se le hum kisi chez ko chala ne keliya

@zahidahmad6255 Жыл бұрын

Sir apne jawab nahi diya

@alierenpnar2909 2 жыл бұрын

Master, how can I do 2s bms in parallel connection, please reply, thank you

@Habibulla.M 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 3 S BMS. How can I use that as a 1 S BMS.. Basically I want to put 2 cells in Parallel and use a BMS for that. Need atleast 3 Ah output I need

@BomJimmy 2 жыл бұрын

Buy 1S Bms which are cheapest on ebay.

@captainjacksparrow127 Жыл бұрын

Output nhi dikhaya

@EGspider 2 жыл бұрын

This is in NO way a BMS, this is at best a bad charger x 3. Using this will damage your batteries if not cause more serious problems

@Faisalayaz4646 2 жыл бұрын

Are Bhai jab 3 BMS lagane Hain to alag alag lagao

@walttechnology 2 жыл бұрын

How long have you been using this device an please be honest

@walttechnology 2 жыл бұрын

It's really important I get a honest answer, I am working on something, an I need your honest answer

@DreamFinder 2 жыл бұрын

It's difficult for maintain input voltage, so use separate BMS Sir

@walttechnology 2 жыл бұрын

@@DreamFinder thank you sir for replying sir, but I didn't get you, how do you mean sir.

@sathishilai 2 жыл бұрын

Will it work really?

@BomJimmy 2 жыл бұрын

Not practically

@titutalukder9099 2 жыл бұрын

Can I use 12V 2A adopter in input ??

@DreamFinder 2 жыл бұрын

It depend on total 1s module. Yes for 3 sell

@meddiys6171 2 жыл бұрын

Good project, but can i use two cells on each charging board?

@WalllOfNothing Жыл бұрын

@mdnoyonahmed4110 Жыл бұрын

How can i buy it?

@DreamFinder Жыл бұрын

No way bro

@nazhu3778 2 жыл бұрын

Can i follow this method for 60 volt battery

@putinhatdenkleinsten7146 2 жыл бұрын

But only one time... 😂

@nafeeszaidi2366 2 жыл бұрын

Good brother I'm from Pakistan 🇵🇰

@TaniaKisha 2 жыл бұрын

These videos are really dangerous and shouldn't be here. Congrats for the cold joins and soldering different capacity Li-Ion batteries in series.

@DreamFinder 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@MdNaimHcen-lg2fi 10 ай бұрын

Batter

@QUANTUM-212 2 жыл бұрын

Convert 20s to 13s

@dineshsoni4437 2 жыл бұрын

Wrong all in this video

@yuumi925 2 жыл бұрын

the cells are not in series so its pointless. "edit" never mind i see what u did.

@bobsoft Ай бұрын

If you comment you will get a ❤

@DreamFinder Ай бұрын

Nice job bro

@dingski_diy 2 жыл бұрын

this is not 3S, you are charging the battery 1S, you just used 12v as input.. 3S is series of 3 batteries, and you are charging the batteries individually. misleading title..

@tomasmorejon7042 2 ай бұрын

Yo pienso lo mismo pero en algún momento mide el total de las 3 pilas y tiene los 12 V