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how to convert old ups into lifepo4 battery ups || lead acid vs lifepo4 battery

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@MrHeHim
@MrHeHim 2 жыл бұрын
Should note, many of those UPS's aren't built for sustained loads longer than the battery they come with can do. Reason is because most come without fans for cooling.. but! yeah, i would still probably do this for fun too. Just be safe 🙂
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
Ok
@dondattler7085
@dondattler7085 Жыл бұрын
I'm Not a fan of wrapping my Lifepo4s or Li-Ions, due to lack of cooling. But if this is a low amp/watt ups It should be fine! I also like to have a little space between the cells, also for cooling.
@VippoTech
@VippoTech Жыл бұрын
This is very low power ups And you are absolutely right 👍
@Scat.original
@Scat.original 6 ай бұрын
Excellent, Thank you
@patelvimal3591
@patelvimal3591 Жыл бұрын
I tried the same but got one problem, my ups works normally on this battery if its already on and give backup after power cut, but if there is already power cut from grid then i can not start the ups iven if battery is fully charged. I need grid power to wakeup the ups I dont understand this problem help me
@satyajitO3Wall
@satyajitO3Wall Жыл бұрын
Lead Acid full charge resting voltage is 12.8V, while 4S LiFePO4 full charge resting voltage is 13.6V. Now does this UPS charge the LiFePO4 battery fully to 13.6V, or it will stop charging when it detects that the battery has reached 12.8V? In your video there is no connection between the BMS and UPS, so the UPS still thinks that the battery it is connected to is a LEAD ACID battery. It will not fully charge your LiFePO4 battery to it's max capacity of 13.6V.
@VippoTech
@VippoTech Жыл бұрын
Check inverter specs It will 14.4v Not 13.6
@KuntalGhosh
@KuntalGhosh 2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a 600va ups so it should draw some 350-400w from the battery at full load and that equals around 30amp. So i hope u have atleast 15ah of Lifepo4 cells to sustain the discharge and add a fan cus this new battery will run this ups for much longer than the older leadacid so it will heat up a lot and might die.
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
No it's just 150w ups
@KuntalGhosh
@KuntalGhosh 2 жыл бұрын
@@VippoTech it says 360w/600va right on the sticker 😂
@manurkgs
@manurkgs 2 жыл бұрын
@@VippoTech No.. normal desktop computer UPS is 360watts..i think, you don the experiment in 360 watt (500/600va) ups..🙏. By the way, you didn't revealed the result!! The back-up time, the charging etc .
@EmilePolka
@EmilePolka Жыл бұрын
while this is true but some UPS actually have a hard limit of their uptime regardless of the battery charge level. majority of entry level APC UPS have a hardlimit of 15mins uptime even if the battery's charge is still good. I know these because my APC UPS basicalyl just refuse to turn on for at least 30minutes after it shutoff from battery mode even if the battery is barely discharged. though some APC UPS dont have this limit on some of their UPS designed for router modem and landline usage, also almost all UPS with external battery support dont have uptime limit, but to be honest these UPS have robust circuitry and fan builtin anyway. so yes, as long as your using APC UPS, you will be fine. Else, cheap UPS from market should take caution using this kind of battery.
@KuntalGhosh
@KuntalGhosh Жыл бұрын
​@@EmilePolkai am using 12ah 25.6v pack in br1000g-in and it runs it as long as the battery is above 21v. 300w load runs for 50min. That model of ups is made for external battery & can run pretty much indefinitely because it uses a totally different smps type inverter that runs cooler and have proper heatsink. I tried this battery on a bx1100 and at 100w it ran for 3hours. At 600w it ran for 5mins before the transformer melted and i had to cutopen the transformer to replace the thermal fuse. It works at 300w for 45min and the ups does not shut off after set time. And it is one of the cheaper 600w ups's although i do not recommend buying one. I bought that for 6000₹ new and it was a waste of money, with original battery it could not run my pc at idle for more than 15mins & while gaming it would give up after 2mins which is not enough to exit game and shut down. I bought the br1000g from a used scrap dealer for 2000₹ without battery. It has some scratches but it was working fine . I cleaned it up and made this Lifepo4 pack with 16 6000mah cells. Now at idle i can use the pc for over 2hours. And while gaming it goes for more than 40mins which is enough to even finish the game and average power cut in kolkata does not even last for 30mins. So 12ah is the sweet spot. The cells were 5000₹ from robu back in 2021. It has been running for 2 years now & have not lost a single minute of backup time. The bx1100 now powers router onu and tv with another 12ah 25.6v Lifepo4 pack. It runs the tv for over 4 hours. Lifepo4 is a game changer and cheaper than leadacid. It should be more popular.
@ryoheilui1639
@ryoheilui1639 Жыл бұрын
why does voltage drop from 13.5 v to 13.1 v in less than 10 minutes when I am discharging the UPS with only 50w load? what volts appear on your end while using the UPS battery
@VippoTech
@VippoTech Жыл бұрын
It's because your battery pack be unbalanced
@spruzzo_man
@spruzzo_man Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have similar UPS, my answare is this: can I replace the lead battery with similar Lion battery that it have BMS circuit inside?
@VippoTech
@VippoTech Жыл бұрын
Offcourse
@Mnkmnkmnk
@Mnkmnkmnk Жыл бұрын
You can't replace with Liion batteries because the voltage is quite different. LiFePo4 batteries are the only sort-of suitable drop-in replacement for 12v lead acid batteries.
@KyawLynnTun
@KyawLynnTun 7 ай бұрын
LifePo4 external charger is better in this and you should install exhaust fan to release heat
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 7 ай бұрын
Ok we will
@MrRajeevsundar
@MrRajeevsundar 2 жыл бұрын
ls it meant for duff & Dump technicians ?
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your such valuable complement
@ayanthegreat1462
@ayanthegreat1462 2 жыл бұрын
Full charge open circuit voltage of this battery?
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
14.4v
@vijaydas9747
@vijaydas9747 Жыл бұрын
is it still working
@12villages
@12villages Ай бұрын
Charging voltage of lead acid and lfp wont match.
@VippoTech
@VippoTech Ай бұрын
Watch latest post your. Answer
@12villages
@12villages Ай бұрын
@@VippoTech ok
@swapniljoshi9997
@swapniljoshi9997 Жыл бұрын
BMS ampere?
@VippoTech
@VippoTech Жыл бұрын
20
@birmal_brian_344
@birmal_brian_344 Жыл бұрын
Sir hm bhi 12v 12ah ka battery lagaye but Mera ups sayad charge nhi kr pa raha he.. Ek bar charge khatam ho jane ke bad wo band ho jata he aur charge bhi nhi leta .. Ab kya kare..?
@VippoTech
@VippoTech Жыл бұрын
Disconnect kar do Phir reconnect karna chalu ho jayega
@birmal_brian_344
@birmal_brian_344 Жыл бұрын
@@VippoTech LiFePO4 battery he, fir bhi reconnect krne se bhi charge nhi kr pa raha h.. transformer ka charging capacity badhana hoga kya..? Pichla battery 12v 7.4ah lead acid ka tha..
@AvinashVSharma
@AvinashVSharma Жыл бұрын
It needs minimum 4amp current to charge the lithium Iron battery. That is the reason it is not charging it
@debjit4418
@debjit4418 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely not poasible for apc ups... i have change my battrry with 12 vlt 18mah battery. When battery drain it gives good back up..but during off load when battery charging ups chaging ling get red and tak tak sound comes constantly and chaging light comes to red and green after 8 sec constantly... when battry full charged this apc ups acting like something suspicuous... so i could not run lifepo4 12 volt battery to apc ups ..i need lead acid only...
@VippoTech
@VippoTech Жыл бұрын
Ok
@manojevtechnology
@manojevtechnology 2 жыл бұрын
UPS inverter change karana padega ya nahi ?
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
Nhi krna padega
@rajeshkannoly
@rajeshkannoly 2 жыл бұрын
Tho low voltage cut off hogaya tho kese kaam karega... Reset switch lagaana padega na ?
@KuntalGhosh
@KuntalGhosh 2 жыл бұрын
@@rajeshkannoly no. When the ups is plugged in it will provide some voltage initially to the bms and that will activate it. But the problem is ups might fail the self test period when battery is fully discharged. So in this sort of application it's better to not use a bms and only use a cell balancer..let the ups handle cutoff voltage of charge and discharge cycle. And use apc ups they have good charge and discharge controller. I have one 20yr old 500va apc unit still running 24x7 since day one and it has never once puffed any battery. From the original csb to currently a cheap frontech battery. I replace the battery every 2-3yr .. and now planning on 12ah or 18ah Lifepo4 replacement.
@manojevtechnology
@manojevtechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, cell cost ky he ?
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
Brand new cell 175/- per piece
@someshdey7431
@someshdey7431 2 жыл бұрын
@@VippoTech kaha se kharida
@Jobinfo4u
@Jobinfo4u 2 жыл бұрын
Bms kitne ampere ka hai?
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
In this 20amp
@alloutmotivation8289
@alloutmotivation8289 2 жыл бұрын
Sir mujhe v same battery chahiye ups ke liye. With old battery
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
Mil jayega
@alloutmotivation8289
@alloutmotivation8289 2 жыл бұрын
Price sir..
@anushkasaha09
@anushkasaha09 2 жыл бұрын
Ups to 0.7amp se charge karta hai, kai aiya battery charge hogi, may be not
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
Hoti hai
@mtechelectricvehicle1944
@mtechelectricvehicle1944 2 жыл бұрын
👌👌👌👌
@MobileRepairKing2847
@MobileRepairKing2847 2 жыл бұрын
Price sir
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
1500
@Divyansh099
@Divyansh099 2 жыл бұрын
Bike k liye bAttery banake bAtaye
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
jarur
@watwi9030
@watwi9030 2 жыл бұрын
Is it 3c cell?
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
Old lifepo4 cell
@watwi9030
@watwi9030 2 жыл бұрын
@@VippoTech lifepo4 battery 3c or 1c?
@ajaymixup4396
@ajaymixup4396 2 жыл бұрын
@@watwi9030 1c cell
@sachinnejarproduction2775
@sachinnejarproduction2775 2 жыл бұрын
But Lithium and others batteries charge and discharge current different
@VippoTech
@VippoTech 2 жыл бұрын
It's lifepo4 battery and it's best replacement of lead acid battery
@bubundhar
@bubundhar Жыл бұрын
abe kuch load chalake dikhao
@VippoTech
@VippoTech Жыл бұрын
No
@bubundhar
@bubundhar Жыл бұрын
@@VippoTech kyun? phir pata kaise chalega iska power
@patelvimal3591
@patelvimal3591 Жыл бұрын
I tried the same but got one problem, my ups works normally on this battery if its already on and give backup after power cut, but if there is already power cut from grid then i can not start the ups iven if battery is fully charged. I need grid power to wakeup the ups I dont understand this problem help me
@devharish4368
@devharish4368 6 ай бұрын
Because battery voltage is high
@patelvimal3591
@patelvimal3591 Жыл бұрын
I tried the same but got one problem, my ups works normally on this battery if its already on and give backup after power cut, but if there is already power cut from grid then i can not start the ups iven if battery is fully charged. I need grid power to wakeup the ups I dont understand this problem help me
@VippoTech
@VippoTech Жыл бұрын
Don't know exactly Might be because of bms Mine battery will work properly
@patelvimal3591
@patelvimal3591 Жыл бұрын
How much ah bms u r using
@patelvimal3591
@patelvimal3591 Жыл бұрын
20 ah lipo4 bms, with i ball nirantar ups 621i
@patelvimal3591
@patelvimal3591 Жыл бұрын
Amd wich bms u t using?
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