I think catapults are nicely countered by knights and partially countered by balistas on towers.
@Jefflenious2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, they struggle against fast moving targets and when you're making catapults I assume you already have a nice army behind them so they don't get ran over It's just they put so much pressure on the opponent and no other unit can do that
@marcinwitkowski69892 жыл бұрын
@@Jefflenious But they also need nice micro-managment.
@kekaisaranottoman84312 жыл бұрын
but they are usefull because they can throw a cow and if the Enemy are Idle and you don't have Cheese Farm that have a cow, you can make them shoot the enemy by Throwing Rock at Them and directly hit the Enemy.
@crowlsyong2 жыл бұрын
Knights are solid but it can be dangerous because if you make a ton of knights and half get killed by catapults, the player with the knights is out more gold thus making the counter an inefficient investment. Lol idk what I’m talking about, did that even make sense?
@psrsasalehi33902 жыл бұрын
Don't forget horse archers
@99jean882 жыл бұрын
One day I made 30 catapults.When I look back I see that I've 12 left because a woodcutter crossed paths with them. How do you counter a woodcutter?
@greatveemon22 жыл бұрын
they're broken af they can't be touched by siege weapons. I lost my 40 fire balistas because of them,
@kekaisaranottoman84312 жыл бұрын
@@greatveemon2 but they are usefull if you want any Support from Civillian, but they must Walk into the Enemy so they can attack them, Remember they can only Handle weak Enemy like Archer, Spearmen, and Tunneler.
@Phoenix-qv9hg2 жыл бұрын
Ofc. Katapults are made of wood after all. You can counter woodcutters by using non wood units.
@yeet8772 жыл бұрын
30? Rookie numbers.
@Ugh7182 жыл бұрын
@@Phoenix-qv9hg *_LOL_*
@Tork7892 жыл бұрын
"Almost never cost efficient. Just the best unit on unlimited economy." - that's a good description for knights IRL as well.
@AwakenedAvocado Жыл бұрын
I onlt use knights , everyman in my army has been knighted
@MegaLol2xd2 жыл бұрын
You can always counter catapults with even more catapults. Happy new year 🎉❣️
@flooosha2376Ай бұрын
You can always counter even more catapults with even even more catapults
@ryuno209711 ай бұрын
Damn. After 21 years, i only found out after watching this video that the monks can actually be used as military units
@demonicdragon3185 ай бұрын
I never bothered useing them but holy vrap 10 gold a piece
@Rufgaudas2 жыл бұрын
2:09 Actually Slingers are very effective vs slaves, I always have few when playing vs Caliph :)
@Volcano49812 жыл бұрын
I agree! Slingers are hands down the best anti-rush defence. Cheap and no extra weapon costs, deal okay damage, 2-shotting slaves, they have okay survivability and melee performance and can even rain down rocks on and pose a mild threat to armoured foes in a pinch. Pretty much the only way to end a sizeable group of them is having archers around that early on, and you can simply back them up with a small elite detachment of archers of your own and maybe a shield or two.
@Luke_Danger2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, when people are asking about countering slaves they're probably more talking about trying to stop them from rushing and setting everything on fire rather than finding a way to kill them. To which the only real reliable way is to just have some patrols or maybe a QRF of Macemen, Horse Archers, or Knights to run them down and constant vigilance to spot a slave raid.
@somber82332 жыл бұрын
If it's a small area like your stone quarries or your farms then stacking 35 slingers on a lookout tower is the cheapest and most efficient way. If you need to cover more ground/resources, use the lookout tower but with archers.
@dradonie Жыл бұрын
or just any archer type except crossbowmen
@ajduong2 жыл бұрын
The best counter to catapults in my experience, are slaves. Catapults can only hit one at a time and slaves are also quite fast
@hellatze2 жыл бұрын
Catapult is a tank therfore need a support So. N
@beardsntools4 ай бұрын
@ze they will be dead long before they reach catapults if player has decent amount of them and if he is skilled enough to use them. The only thing that counters catapults is just more catapults
@TM0TP4 ай бұрын
assassins would probably be good counters or knights, on castle defence mangonels are a good counter aswell as long as you have like 20+ on towers.
@beardsntools4 ай бұрын
@@TM0TP Nah nothing stops catapults, as long as they have someone who knows how to use them, also your towers will all get deleted in 2 seconds
@TM0TP4 ай бұрын
@@beardsntools yes catapults has counters they counter themselves lol. and yea if you have over 100 catapults then indeed there is no counter.
@jackog442 жыл бұрын
Recently came back to the game after a good 10-15 years, really appreciate the vids
@SIBUK Жыл бұрын
Knights have actually become one of my favourite units. I get a bunch of them and then charge around the outside of my enemies castle and quickly destroy all the buildings that lie outside of the castle walls and cripple their economy. Then I send in my main attack.
@Ronin345311 ай бұрын
Yeah. Knights are not exactly for direct combat, but for raids, counter raids and hit&run tactics.
@dzulfiqardifa60372 жыл бұрын
You can outsnipe cats (catapults) with tower ballistas ...of course, you need a lot of towers for it to be effective so let's say its a soft counter Hard counter probably fast moving melee units
@PstruhovaAsistentka2 жыл бұрын
Actually is better have mangonels on towers. For example in mission big one is more effective use mangonels (about 3 is enough 5 is better) also in lot of missions where bigger attacks come from one direction. I prefer mangonels.
@RadioactiveSherbet9 күн бұрын
@@PstruhovaAsistentka Mangonels are also great at annoying AIs when their castles are close to yours. Destroying the enemy's granary every couple minutes? *chefs kiss*
@TombstoneThe2 жыл бұрын
i haven't played this game but I like your videos. this game really reminds me of Lords of the Realm 2 in a lot of ways, especially with the role Pikemen play as tanky melee units, and how moats work with melee units being able to fill them in.
@adityasidhiqpratama22832 жыл бұрын
Seriously dude, this channel makes me play stronghold again after 6 years
@nocomment6421 Жыл бұрын
How have you not Played Stronghold yet
@leopards3212 жыл бұрын
If ur ground isn't suitable for moat-digging to block the assassins, u can create double crenellations, assassins won't be able to climb, but the gatehouses are still vulnerable, placing some heavy infantry units above it will help
@Aaahrg2 жыл бұрын
Monks and Catapults, the reason the Abbot is much stronger in AI-Matches than you think (at least when the enemy dont use bows too much)
@kekaisaranottoman84312 жыл бұрын
but they weak ngl, if they are in Straight line, they can be Takedown with any Archer.
@kareem56532 жыл бұрын
Abbot send me around 1,000+ Monks vs 200 swords men and half of the monks if not were dead. Horse arches eat monks like a caveman that hasn't eaten in 100 years. I'm pretty sure if 1000 monks vs 1000 swords men sword men always win. Strongest melee.
@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 Жыл бұрын
@@kareem5653 no, swordsmen won't win, because monks deal bonus damage to armored units and has more damage, and also faster attack speed. Those monks can just stack and the swordsmen will be swept.
@themanwhocantbemovedbyatru1988 Жыл бұрын
@@kareem5653 reason you won against abbot is because he always have max negative fear factor which makes his monks so much more weaker.
@crowlsyong2 жыл бұрын
Bro I love your videos they make me laugh. Thank you :)
@whydoyougottahavthis2 жыл бұрын
I almost died laughing at your serious near robotic tone with the catapults I was thinking you're gonna say horse archers or something but nope "They're broken" lmao
@ExilerZero5 ай бұрын
Catapults can be countered with archers and tower ballistas... Actually the real broken is horse archer and tower ballistas... Horse archer in large group with high morale can counter knights and swordsman
@beardsntools4 ай бұрын
@@ExilerZero Unless your opponent doesn't know what he is doing or only has few of them, no you can't take out catapults with anything other than more catapults. Your tower ballistas will be deleted with all your buildings in 2-3 shots and all your ground units will be dead when your opponent rolls in with hundreds of catapults.
@vladdracul8952 жыл бұрын
Great help, thanks!
@Dolfy2 жыл бұрын
vs catapults: become god at repairing walls and towers
@nourechaara38472 жыл бұрын
Man ty for your advices
@P0P218 Жыл бұрын
imagine what the game would be like if units were limited to one per tile and only friendly units can pass through (so they don't clog up walls as much)
@theultimatejoyofgaming75596 ай бұрын
hey jeff love your content!! i have a good idea for encountering arabian swordsmen and any tank units which archers cant really kill... so, we place slingers ahead of the archers and the archers are to be in huge numbers.... so, slingers deal with tanks and archers deal with range while also assissting slingers...
@MrBru1985 Жыл бұрын
The slave quote got me lol ahahah, also i think that fire ballistae are quite broken when are in large numbers.
@donaldkeller6949 Жыл бұрын
A bunch of towered Ballista's tears through catapults. You just need a wall in front of the towers to tank hits for a few seconds.
@kuchihashman3829 Жыл бұрын
Haven't played it in over 10 years and yet I am here
@user-mo2sx8ej6p10 ай бұрын
You're smart and funny. Way to go!
@hellothere-ij2ij2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@rontehrani97464 ай бұрын
Thank you
@zachdugan7320 Жыл бұрын
catapults/trebs are most effectively countered with fast melee units (or tower ballistae for catapults). its why you escort your siege engines
@ArthurHerbst2 жыл бұрын
Assasins actually do quite some bonus damage against knights. Maybe against Pikemen and Swordsmen too, cant remember. Probably not as cost efficiant as monks, but what is...
@Gingham_tale2 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard when you talk about how to counter slaves lol🤣
@albertonavarro89042 жыл бұрын
Also slingers are more effective than one would think against armored units
@andreansyemmahmikaputra80184 ай бұрын
Yeah, cheap and faster... Maybe combine with portabel Shield is good against the archer...
@HyperionStudiosDE Жыл бұрын
I found using 200 horse archers works against pretty much anything.
@abccba5125 Жыл бұрын
Usually I utilise same tactic for clear towers and walls defences, but if enemy stronghold is crowded with foes and machines you get decimated and the costs to replenish your forces is onerous
@HyperionStudiosDE Жыл бұрын
@@abccba5125 Not if you make your horse archers zigzag constantly. But I don't even do that anymore because it's too cheesy.
@ShihammeDarc2 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if you described how to play against insufferable slave arson tactics in the slave counter part
@Ronin345311 ай бұрын
Slingers.
@sorenatesa44792 жыл бұрын
Happy new yer jef
@Jefflenious2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year!
@zoemaomi2 жыл бұрын
Jeff jeff jeff can you make a video on: what's the ratio of production buildings to make it cost-efficient? I feel like the leather workshop and crossbow workshop got different ratio every game i put them down.
@Jefflenious2 жыл бұрын
Does highly depend on their distance to the stockpiles, but I can try to make one!
@Schizonibba2 жыл бұрын
So basically I just spam catapults to break the walls and buildings then I swarm them with monks. Defense as always is the magic mixture of moat laberynths and fire/arrows/bolts and some tanking units at the end
@typowytyp10802 жыл бұрын
nice vid
@i.mahdihosseini3 ай бұрын
tower balistas are the only thing you can use for catapults. and you need A LOT of them
@bre4kd0wn111 ай бұрын
My solution against Catapult, or any siege equipment for that matter, is to have a fast-moving unit to destroy it. As for Portable Shield and Horse Archer, in my experiences going against Wolf and Saladin, their Mangonels can surprisingly deal with my Portable Shield and Horse Archer well, so well that I have to resort to bust some Catapults and Macemen on their towers.
@avandarkwalker91322 жыл бұрын
Tbh nothing beats an early archer rush to maximize pressure and then building up more archers and catapults, to finish the lord a bunch of assassins will do the job. So far that strategy works wonder for me against almost any AI except for the Wolf sometimes.
@herzogwolfmusic80984 ай бұрын
How do i counter Ladderman and Axechoppers?
@abdohassan88662 жыл бұрын
Happy new year from Egypt
@henrry8892 жыл бұрын
If you can flank whatever units are defending catapults, assassins can sneak up on them before getting one shotted by them.
@shaunholt Жыл бұрын
Counter to catapults: hope the other player forgets to select targets, because they tend to simply sit there.
@Gabrielbarsch2 жыл бұрын
you forgot to talk about the ladderman
@the_diplomat51 Жыл бұрын
I would argue that knights roaming around unchecked spells disaster for unguarded archer blobs. High risk high reward unit to maneuver and use, but fun.
@David-yw4qd2 жыл бұрын
Monks! i never would have thought they are my most overlooked units
@alanmt88195 ай бұрын
Catapults are easily countered by knights, monks, and archers/crossbowmen with shields?
@AnaRxistBoD11 ай бұрын
And how do you counter ladder-men? Or tunnel-diggers? Or lumberjacks?
@blacklight47202 жыл бұрын
"Not having Walls" I laughed.
@ErikAdalbertvanNagel2 жыл бұрын
Slaves and especially tunnelers in large numbers can be terrifying.
@Azhureus11 ай бұрын
Monks are dope af, they are really strong on close combat, very good defensive unit, ofcs long range can kill them quick.
@jamesputra17292 жыл бұрын
Tower with balistae are great counter to siege engines except trebutchet beacuse of their range, balista can deal great damage in each shot but their lower rof are main concern especially against mass unit
@hippityhoppity6572 жыл бұрын
make a video on the quickest way to deal with every AI lord
@avagata93092 жыл бұрын
If I were to do this video I would put catapults as every counter
@Jan_Heckmann2 жыл бұрын
Catapults are countered by Assassin's, Knights, Melees, Mangonels and by a Combination of Others Catapults and Trebuchets.
@kareem56532 жыл бұрын
Catapults can be countered by Horse Arches because they are fast and catapults will miss some assuming same amount of both.
@andrejchalas6799 Жыл бұрын
U are never going to play only catapults. Its alwas catapults+horsearchers+shields. Its a unit that never comes alone. But you are right in terms of one unit againist one unit
@birisuandrei1551 Жыл бұрын
Mass Fire ballista is probably worse than mass catapult cause it doesn't use stone to fire, most games your catapult spam is limited by having 2-3 quarries..
@ReiP952 жыл бұрын
Catapults are actually modern rifled breech loading modern cannons
@1InVader117 күн бұрын
Mangonels will outrange catapults and 1 stone fragment is enough to instantly destroy them, really good for groups and if there's not a lot of them ballistas will handle tham. Trebouchets will outrange the mangonels though, but then the enemy could also just build trebouchets within his own castle.
@xhappybunnyx Жыл бұрын
My bro just told me he was having a hard time against the flame-torch-carrying units in one of the trail maps... ima send this to him
@yeet8772 жыл бұрын
How do you actually counter slaves tho? I just cant seem to beat them.
@unforgiven14772 жыл бұрын
good video i agree with your statement
@Jefflenious2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with my statement
@mikaelbonaventuraarasatya9022 жыл бұрын
I could say that The Abbot is big bren.
@gubashitalks14152 жыл бұрын
I love your channel ... but why don't you record with your own voice ? just curious .. i love it anyway
@dpmfarmasiump7532 жыл бұрын
ah yes another daily dose of jefflenious
@yashida19992 жыл бұрын
You have plan to make this vid on different stronghold title? Also happy new year Jeff! :D
@Jefflenious2 жыл бұрын
Don't think so, my viewers aren't interested and I don't like the 3D games that much either. But there will be some video every once in a while!
@Krarilotus2 жыл бұрын
A large number of cataputls is not countered by anything really xD (besides maybe another large number of catapults... lol) they can even volley down knights and i assume you have some support with them top deflect small amoutns of untis comin through
@zalybrainlessgenius5032 жыл бұрын
But... how do I counter a woodcutter tho?
@igorthelight9 ай бұрын
Fire ballista's are pretty good against knights. Just protect them a little bit ;-)
@user-ql7el6iv7e4 ай бұрын
I beat knights by using archers and crossbowmen and i count catapults by using swordsmen try use crossbowmen and archers in towers together so they can beat units with high health
@dewetuccarhikmet52122 жыл бұрын
If only I had learnt how to counter Tunnellers I could best the game
@Cetus22222 жыл бұрын
I can't comment on every video you are so fast rn.
@Khannah692 жыл бұрын
When in doubt, use crossbowmen
@tribalbacsi2 жыл бұрын
Catapults and the others siege's are weak against tower ballistas and ground I use this way.
@Jefflenious2 жыл бұрын
Yeah tower ballistas and even the ground ones are supposed to counter them, and they do well when there's only a few of them Against a swarm of catapults though nothing can stop them except catapults or a bunch of units charging at them
@tigeruppercut20006 ай бұрын
No wonder I always thought catapults were insanely powerful. If you get 50 of them you pretty much can level any AI castle in seconds
@Rabascan2 жыл бұрын
'Hopefully 2022 is going great'... About that.
@Jefflenious2 жыл бұрын
Well
@srexzangetsu65542 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain what the shield people do? I've never been using them.
@Jefflenious2 жыл бұрын
They can absorb the range attack if they're close enough, and they can actually tank A LOT of arrows
@andreibirisu42806 ай бұрын
you can't counter a large mass of fire ballista unless you outnumber them, especially if its a fire ballista/shield mix
@marine75222 жыл бұрын
We need daily 2 videos bro plz
@george-adrianluca49482 жыл бұрын
Great vid, but how about tunnelers and ladder ladies :D
@ultimatecorgi33922 жыл бұрын
But how do you counter lords
@MrGregor91242 жыл бұрын
How to counter every AI next (in attack and defense)
@blitzkrieg29282 жыл бұрын
What about monks ?
@Darkry Жыл бұрын
Juse use mangonel against catapults :D Leave it firing at a spot, use like 4 towers an cover whole area in rocks. Can kill most units as well.
@zandrojohnproductions44742 жыл бұрын
How do you counter a lord?
@_rinala2 жыл бұрын
I'm the only one that counter catapults using maceman in suicide rushs?? cause even if the backup army is big 20-30 of them will do the job also, catapults need to stay static in order to shot, and then tower ballistas melt them. just build enough
@andreansyemmahmikaputra80184 ай бұрын
That's a good way to... They enough faster
@MrBronze152 жыл бұрын
How to counter every unit in stronghold : crossbowmen if fail? more crossbowmen
@shohan57722 жыл бұрын
I just run around enemy castle with my horde of horse archers and send swarms of assassins to kill the lord when possible.
@FinnaPassAway2 жыл бұрын
Catapults are countered by horse-archers . Just like right about everything else in this game
@ojd22962 жыл бұрын
The best counter to slaves is wages and individual rights, as they will no longer be slaves at that point
@omarabdelaty6342 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand monks. Do they have higher attack damage or rate. Because I know they dont have the highest defense
@andreansyemmahmikaputra80184 ай бұрын
Yeah, me too... If 1Vs1 they still failed... But, that's not the point, right...?
@Yann1ckde2 жыл бұрын
The Happy New Year wish for 2020 didn't age to well ...
@coltgad44112 жыл бұрын
h.a and shield counter catapults if you dodge
@AttyDouro222 жыл бұрын
Wtf I had no idea monks were so good
@Krarilotus2 жыл бұрын
against macemen, swordsmen also do well. Swordsmen and Knights take only 1/3rd dmg from Macemen...
@Jefflenious2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are technically a counter, don't think they're cost efficient though
@Krarilotus2 жыл бұрын
@@Jefflenious well, more cost efficient than knights, knights have less hp and deal less dmg xD (and cost extra stables...)
@RiceaxeGaming2 жыл бұрын
What about tunnelers? They have strong attack but weak hp as it seems a bit like assasins. They fair very well against units with low attack. I´ve read somewhere they are good against monks and slaves. I´m curious how they deal with pikemen, they beat spearmen with 20% hp 1 vs 1.
@corentinc.948 Жыл бұрын
Tunnelers are best used as quickly-recruited spearmen. They are stronger than the latter and cost +-1gold more per unit.
@RiceaxeGaming Жыл бұрын
@@corentinc.948 they´re also faster right?
@corentinc.948 Жыл бұрын
@@RiceaxeGaming Tunnelers are more cost-effective during battles: 0# higher atk and higher HP; 1# They cannot climb ladders, but they destroy 1 wall tile completely at the cost of 1 tunneler = more cost-efficient VS: About 5 to 10 spearmen are lost when climbing ladders. 3# Tunnelers cannot dig moats, but pikemen do. And are very effective in conflict situations. 4# keep your spearmen {+- 10; costly slave} to dig your moat safely @home I personally... Use slaves {Arabian Lord} in the beginning, despite being European IRL, because they are great moat diggers. When attacking, Pikemen are great in bigger numbers {40} due to archers. They also dig out moats and climb ladders + take several hits from Lords!!! 6# Once the moats are dug out, spearmen get reused by me as cheap moving meat shields to hold off bigger melee armies {make archers even more useful}. 7# If I cannot build pikemen, nor knights - I use spearmen in groups of +-15 at the minimum, because they let you play 'a more active role' during battles, than "just watching archers pick off enemies". CONCLUSION: 8# Use tunnelers to use as tunnelers, or as "spearmen" in great quantities, without all the hassle needed of having to make one.