How To Create Classic Detroit Techno | With Or Without Gear | Thomann
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Күн бұрынIn this video we'll be going back to the roots and have a look at how to create Detroit Techno. To cover more ground we're gonna create 2 tracks in two different ways, one of which only with Ableton's build in sound sources, the other with some fancy hardware.
Gear used:
Hardware:
Roland TR-8 S:
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Elektron Octatrack MKII:
www.thomann.de/de/elektron_oc...
Elektron Analog Heat:
www.thomann.de/de/elektron_an...
Waldorf Pulse 2:
www.thomann.de/de/waldorf_pul...
Software:
Ableton Live 11:
www.thomann.de/de/ableton_liv...
Buchla Music Easel VST by Arturia (Part of the V Collection):
www.thomann.de/de/arturia_v_c...
Soundtoys Plug-ins:
www.thomann.de/de/soundtoys_s...
We use Triad-Orbit stands for our cameras, lights and mics: tho.mn/triad
Recorded and mixed with Universal Audio: tho.mn/uadx
Monitors optimised through Sonarworks: tho.mn/sonar
Interesting bits and pieces:
0:00 Intro
01:36 Live-Jam
05:21 Hardware: Walkthrough and Explanation
10:37 Ableton: Creating warm sounds from ones and zeros
30:03 The sample pack you should know about
31:38 Techno records you should know about
33:26 Outro
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@Chasing_Thoughts 3 жыл бұрын
This wideo is ticking all of the boxes 🤓
@nerfytheclown 3 жыл бұрын
...at first glance, yes.
@NunyaB1s 2 жыл бұрын
Florian!? Is that you?
@dijjidog Жыл бұрын
I'm down for random bad gear references
@colinrussell2017 Ай бұрын
The wuuuurlds most hated audio tools
@keith303 3 жыл бұрын
great knowledge, great performance, great head nodding/shaking, great aesthetical presentation, this is actually pretty great all the way through ! enjoyed the watch - thanks.
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you found value in it
@chiagozieanyanwu3470 10 ай бұрын
@@ThomannSynthesizers yeah this is amazing. Great share!!
@AlejandroGuerrero 3 жыл бұрын
Man this is top of the top of the top in KZfaq. Congratulations and thanks for sharing the techniques, the tracks and it was awesome to find than here in Madrid we have good producers, Gracias.
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, in Madrid there are some of the worlds best techno artists like Psyk, Tadeo, Svreca, Orbe, Oscar Mulero and many more. You can be proud of your city!
@compucorder64 Жыл бұрын
@@ThomannSynthesizers Exactly, I moved to Valencia a year ago. I'm glad that he visits regularly to DJ. He is still one of the best I've seen. Very uncompromising, and very much his own industrial aesthetic. There would be a more thriving scene in Spain. But unfortunately, live music suffers partly because of the noise regulations that have the good intention of making life more livable from noise pollution.
@i-never-look-at-replies-lol 3 жыл бұрын
I've been making music without gear my entire life. I mean no one can hear it because it's all in my head...but I've been doing it. I've put out a lot of albums up there!
@compucorder64 Жыл бұрын
Love the intro music, it reminds me of that very refined techno aesthetic of artists like Kirk DeGiorgio and maybe mid 90s Carl Craig. For rawer, rougher techno, a technique that works well is driving the 909s etc quite hard into a cheapish mixer that lends good colour like the old Mackie 1202. Also, these Akai 950 resampling plugins help a lot too (RX950 etc..). Gets the snares sounding nice and raw, and the rides get lovely and thrashy. As an alternative to sidechaining, pumping is another characteristic movement effect. Getting multiple tracks of a TR-909 pumping maximally through a DBX 160 series gets some classic movement too. The filtering/shaping and distortions that vinyl bakes in, is very much part of the sound for me too. Agree on Soundtoys bundle being a top choice for bundles. Decapitator is great, but there are some other fantastic plugins now, like Empirical Labs Arouser, Softube M.A.S. Overstayer, Arturia Dist TUBE-CULTURE and PSP Saturator. The Arturia Plate is awesome too. The Zero-G, AMG sample CDs are often used 90s sample fodder too. Alesis Midiverb / Quadraverb are still kinda affordable hardware, but I think I'd still prefer Valhalla VintageVerb but maybe with some bit reduction/downsampling/filtering.
@moodykid1544 2 жыл бұрын
first of all 1.you introduced us in equpment 2.explained how it works 3.talk aboute every peac in context give us so much tips for sound designe 4. history of hardware and get inside soundesigne in daw 5.and on end you give homework to practice ears and perception trough tracks and lables 6.and you are so fast and into the point Man you are one of the Jedis
@ThomannSynthesizers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. Great to hear that you found the video helpful! Best, Felix :)
@IhorMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this first track is exactly the Techno I love! Thanks for sharing some thought about it! ✌️
@audioreakt 3 жыл бұрын
Another killer video and what a great jam ! That buchla sequence is mental !
@LondraCalibro9 Жыл бұрын
superb tutorial, this is the second of your videos I've seen and I'm blown away by how progressive and educational they are. amazing work.
@grambo4436 2 жыл бұрын
Yess! We need this style of techno back the same can be said for trance, house etc.
@strangerting7818 3 жыл бұрын
The best Thomann video so far. Well done Felix, danke!
@DigitalBard1 3 жыл бұрын
1:30 of intelligent intro. And then music kicks. The first 3 notes had me hooked. Saved and Subbed immediately. Well done sir!
@purposemaker909 3 жыл бұрын
This is dope, really enjoyed it, thank you.
@warrenc1829 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely superb from start to finish, extremely professional. I'll be watching each and every video. Thank you.
@robertsyrett1992 3 жыл бұрын
Man, this series has a lot of good episodes! Love that you used the Buchla in detroit techno.
@peterlel7661 3 жыл бұрын
Tolles Video, toller Host :D macht richtig spass und gibt immer neue Inspiration
@ivicai3281 2 жыл бұрын
high quality stuff! thanks for sharing - love your "you should know about" part(s)...
@DanielD.mp3 3 жыл бұрын
great video and i love the record recommedations at the end! nice!
@stevekirkby6570 2 жыл бұрын
I learnt something new in music production today: It is essential to get a very funky head wobbling attitude happening. This makes the groove come alive. Without correct neck exercise the music lacks immediacy. Thanks :)
@thedeepblueskys Жыл бұрын
Running the individual outs to the mixer is the best advice ever for hardware. I’ve got great results in a Model Samples due to overdriving the individual tracks and in the box too. It’s a cheap way to get into this sound.
@triggerhappytube 3 жыл бұрын
very well done and a lot of useful content even for an advanced music producer! much appreciated, thx!!
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear. Thanks for the positive feedback
@fabriciomosoni 3 жыл бұрын
Kid A, Mezzanine and Aphex Twin´s Selected ambient works in the wall :)
@chrisgilkes1687 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children….essential album.
@fabriciomosoni 3 жыл бұрын
@@sheateeley1 mezzanine? 😑
@xopenx 2 жыл бұрын
also Yussef Kamaal - Black Focus
@Andy-Kach 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I've learned a lot! Also thanks for the music recommendations.
@F-Andre Жыл бұрын
ich liebe die Melodie typischer 90er Ambient Sound...Da werden Erinnerungen wach
@milosmilosmilos 3 жыл бұрын
Yussef Kamal on the wall, I already like this guy.
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
Ah I see, you are a man of culture as well!
@EARART 3 жыл бұрын
Kamal Williams?
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
@@EARART and Yussef Dayes
@videoweddings1 Жыл бұрын
talented boy- thanks for sharing lots of insider knowledge
@ChristopherOrth 2 жыл бұрын
This was just fantastic. Please do more vids like this!
@jayhu6075 2 жыл бұрын
I am very glad to find your channel. Learn a lot about different technik so as to use a drum rack with effect. So great is also the explanation . Hopefully more from this stuff. Many thanks.
@dumafuji 3 жыл бұрын
This was really good. Inspiring
@mikeguarino2981 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for that Jungle Jungle download tip!..... Keep making vids, love this channel!
@ThomannSynthesizers 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@habichiblah7534 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. Many thanks, from a grateful customer of yours!
@OnlyDaFunk4444 2 жыл бұрын
After this 1 I definitely gave a Sub👍🏾‼️ I Vibed with the 1 track(Hardware Funk) the most,,,, but overall, love how you express and explained all the nuances of both.
@kiosko33hz 3 жыл бұрын
Gente seria ! This is what demonstration is about. Great job!
@shivabreathes Жыл бұрын
This is very cool and very well put together.
@raven-jz6cv 2 жыл бұрын
Dawless one by far what you made has life! The other sounds are common 2021 copy paste releases.
@Flux_One 2 жыл бұрын
An absolutely brilliant video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
@ThomannSynthesizers 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@MeeBilt 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! 😮 That made my day! The first Jam was Wicked 😎
@karltraunmuller7048 3 жыл бұрын
Also: beautiful videography
@tehedx 3 жыл бұрын
Nice jam, nice breakdown. I like the use of an old 2nd hand mixer. As you state they usually go for cheap. Knobs, sliders and switches probably have noises, but that doesn't matter very much here.
@epigon1 3 жыл бұрын
Nice ideas. Will try this night 👌
@antoineguilbeault8025 2 жыл бұрын
the techno records/ sample packs you should know about is a very nice touch! 👌
@sinepilot 3 жыл бұрын
My head is bowed in respect to your skills and knowledge, Felix. Man, I have a long way to go to get to this level. *sigh* time to get off YT and back to practicing!
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
That‘s a lovely thing to hear. Glad you enjoy the videos. Best, Felix :)
@dimitripetrenko9734 Жыл бұрын
So Usefull, Bro. U making very Good Videos. Thank U a lot.)
@osamabinsaucin929 2 жыл бұрын
This should have millions of views!!
@LaKai_derfels 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaalter niiice. Die erste live jam ist ja sooooo krank.
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
Danke, freut mich wenns dir gefallen hat
@jasonexecuted180 Жыл бұрын
Dis live jam is crazy. U goated!!
@savedbyasong4627 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Thanks!❤
@Cybercowboy_69 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. It would really help producers as well if you could come up with a video showcasing how these videos are shot, lit and edited. Beautiful as always!
@MrMarcLaflamme 3 жыл бұрын
Top performance Felix!
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Unifono2012 3 жыл бұрын
Really liked the second track. I need melodies in techno 🙃 The jam was nice too though
@akoolstik 3 жыл бұрын
great presentation. give that guy Felix a raise!
@yaroslavmagda788 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing tutorial!
@a1o1 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic - content and production quality on point
@Mandy-vp6nv 3 жыл бұрын
this is not classic detroit Techno
@buggedmusik 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, just discovered this channel 👌
@andrestahlhofen4353 2 жыл бұрын
Very much appreciated! 🙏 Subbed
@drydessert4198 3 жыл бұрын
Gute Anregungen. Danke auch für die Plattentips.
@rundtomrasmus 3 жыл бұрын
Really great video! You compiled almost all of the important aspects if you want to get into techno in half an hour - that's fucking impressive :D (I wrote almost only to be open for issues, I didn't think about, because I really think you covered almost all bases!) I have one question, though: Is there a reason, why you used the Max LFO to modulate analog instead of its internal lfo? The disclaimer about the video not being sponsored by soundtoys was beautiful
@marquezvanroeschen5340 2 жыл бұрын
Best jam I've seen for a long time. Most of the stuff I find on YT is just weak!
@paulburkhart2619 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, that was very informative! Didn't know that headphone trick. Also, I always skipped by Redux effect in Ableton coz I thought it was some sort of delay I didn't need. Facepalm.
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it can be really useful. Especially since they updated it for more precise controlles somewhere in Ableton 10 or 11. Also, glad you enjoyed the video
@lasseyoyo5653 2 жыл бұрын
very inspiring!
@ArcRunner 3 жыл бұрын
That headphone tip is excellent! TY
@albionpatterns3986 3 жыл бұрын
What tip?
@2112jonr 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, excellent advice.
@geompon6505 3 жыл бұрын
@ 23:50
@georgerivera7193 3 жыл бұрын
Great video always learn something, Thank you
@user-fs8jq7bn9j 4 ай бұрын
Cool!!!
@zerozeroisland 3 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! I’m currently in the middle of recording an EP, and this video just gave me a big shot of inspiration. …and maybe sold me a TR-8s. My finger is hovering over the “buy now” button ;)
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
Great hear you found inspiration in this 👍 Best, Felix
@zerozeroisland 3 жыл бұрын
I did! Haha and the Tr-8s arrived this week, I’ve been having a blast with it, thanks for the inspiration!
@offworldnetwork 3 жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@sierra22music 2 жыл бұрын
this is a teasure!
@wimreynders2781 2 жыл бұрын
thats fire!
@plasnes2055 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if theres a more affordable version or a similar synthesizer to the one you showed at 7:50? Anything with that kind of control on the pitches is what I'm looking for. Great video btw, it gave me a lot more inspiration when trying to make my own classic styled techno.
@selwaymusic 3 жыл бұрын
This is great.
@Skorpio___ 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Could you please tell us how is your hardware conection with the pc and the config with ableton!?
@yannbzh100 10 ай бұрын
Great tutorial! thank you I didn't know this technique to feel the bass and the kick with the headphones in my hand, I tried it doesn't work for me with my ATH M60X dj headphones, I'll have to invest in good studio headphones,
@mt.borracho911 Жыл бұрын
Excellent and very authentic performance. Token and non my favorites. Also Luke Hess’s deep labs from Detroit. What VCO did you use?
@the_fifth_wheel 3 жыл бұрын
The Wonderful Buchla randomness sounds amazing, your very lucky to have it
@peterlel7661 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to create those unquantized sequences inside ableton? maybe a max for live thing or something?
@mister2628 3 жыл бұрын
Came for some gear tips and ending up dancing LOL.
3 жыл бұрын
unglaublich gut!!
@klausgatu1504 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Can you make an tutorial about how to work with Akai mpc live 2 and Moog Sub 37 together?!?!?
@Volpearg 3 жыл бұрын
Really good tracks Felix! Great tutorial. One question: When you are referring to the slices of the sample, do you mean like chopping a breakbeat into, for example, a 3/16 loop, and in every slice apply some envelope of amplitude? Or like a fade of volume on the end?
@ThomannSynthesizers 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, I mean slicing a loop into various smaller parts, then sequencing these individual parts and adjusting the attack, decay, sustain, release on the playback sampler. Also try to avoid warping/timestreching unless it explicitly serves the aesthetic you are going for. A limitation from back in the day was that there weren't any nice timestretching algorhythms, so whenever you wanted to adjust the timing of something you would also adjust the pitch and vise versa. This is a crucial part of the oldschool sampling aesthetic and even up to this day, pitching without timestretching usually sounds better and more natural.
@mike_qbik 3 жыл бұрын
Solid.
@davidstar2362 2 жыл бұрын
I have a new brother !!! glad To meet you.!!
@r.g.pimpson7350 2 жыл бұрын
Felix is such a smart Host
@FuZZbaLLbee 3 жыл бұрын
Was missing the pads a bit in the hardware version.
@agua9362 Жыл бұрын
richtig leckeres Video - THX
@mybiggrin 3 ай бұрын
23:39 can anyone see where the tuning is on that sampler mode? I can't. Thanks for the record recs!
@thomasweiler5319 3 ай бұрын
How are you doing your sequencing? Just clicking notes into the piano roll? I find it very difficult to get a “sequencer” type sound out of the Ableton piano roll but you’ve really nailed it here.
@danieloberhoff1 3 жыл бұрын
somehow like the analog version a lot more, less teching, little gear, great sound, lots of intuition. especially the part where you pointed out that the melody you get from manually dialing in frequencies gives you "harmonies noone ever did before" in the whim of the moment, and you kinda sounded disappointed when having to move to the piano roll :O). and abusing the poor mackie preamps is just the thing I am looking for :O). keep on hammering :)
@AniMA-vz1gm Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where can I get similar lighting that he has. You can see it around 10:12 like the cold blue ish lighting
@michaels5166 2 жыл бұрын
An example of LEARN WHAT YOU HAVE and make music...period..
@troymcdonald5165 3 жыл бұрын
thankyou x
@tomasrybka 3 жыл бұрын
you can just use the stock saturator / drum buss for sound coloring instead of the VSTs
@alphanumeric1529 10 ай бұрын
Well, you definitely have a better grasp of techno than IDM, LOLZERS! Thanks!
@arjanpetersen 3 жыл бұрын
Nice ... Which notes do you use for melody?
@edthewave 3 жыл бұрын
Take notes - this WILL be on the test! 🧐
@bluepixeldoom 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I just stole something. Because this tutorial was gold.
@cfhklhog 3 жыл бұрын
What modular equipment did you use?
@siliconteens5637 2 жыл бұрын
I like the blend of Rob Hood Style over to Jeff Mills Style. Well done, mate!
@zg-mzga Жыл бұрын
couldn''t you overdrive the trs internally without the need for the mackie?
@binarysoul5978 2 жыл бұрын
Ace !
@burger659 4 ай бұрын
the arc angel album was made with Ableton live only !
@albionpatterns3986 3 жыл бұрын
Nice shorts dude
@landwirtschaft2116 2 жыл бұрын
What's the exact model of the headphones?
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