How To Create Depth In Your Mix Using 4-Stage Reverb

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@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 2 ай бұрын
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@eleuziz
@eleuziz Жыл бұрын
The A/B was noticeable. I’ve been struggling with understanding reverb for depth purposes. This is an incredible strategy
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and watching. This was definitely a game-changer for me too when I learned this in my own mixes.
@alex_ayers
@alex_ayers Жыл бұрын
I could tell a HUGE difference!! This was phenomenal ❤️
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you found it helpful. Let me know if there are any other topics you'd like me to cover. :)
@the300queens
@the300queens Жыл бұрын
Wow. Best video on depth with reverb.!! Ty🙏
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Also, thanks for watching.
@justinmolamusic
@justinmolamusic Жыл бұрын
This was such an amazing tip! Been struggling to understand this concept lately and you really cleared it up! Gonna try this in my current mix 😎 thanks man!
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
No problem! Glad I could help out and share something worth trying. Thanks for watching!
@itspetedee
@itspetedee 5 ай бұрын
This is an amazing tutorial - well done!
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@tommysuditomo8943
@tommysuditomo8943 Жыл бұрын
Your channel will grow! Nice stuff! Just hit the subscribe button and ready to dive in all your content!
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Hope that it's all helpful for you. Anything that you're interested in learning specifically?
@sfischer1001
@sfischer1001 2 ай бұрын
I had a bit of a hard time understanding this in your book, but this cleared it up. Your book was really helpful. Thanks
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate this feedback on the book! Glad it was helpful and I'll try firming up this section to make it more clear.
@tgalab
@tgalab Жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! Thanks
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it!
@princemaxwhoobayangbon1516
@princemaxwhoobayangbon1516 Жыл бұрын
Great Tip, thanks!
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
No problem! Glad you found it helpful.
@PatrickObiang
@PatrickObiang 10 ай бұрын
Awesome. Bravo!
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@andreiviievskyi2838
@andreiviievskyi2838 10 ай бұрын
fantastic! thanks a lot
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 10 ай бұрын
No problem! Thanks for watching.
@MexicanPancakes
@MexicanPancakes 10 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏻
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 10 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching. 🙂
@shertito7262
@shertito7262 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much bro 🙏
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
No problem! Hope you have fun with this technique. 👍
@matthewchavezm.b.s5503
@matthewchavezm.b.s5503 Жыл бұрын
Chris Lord Alge or CLA has a plugin called Epic that has 4 reverbs that send into 4 delays to get this depth as well. Thx for the video.
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kamalpalsingh9856
@kamalpalsingh9856 6 ай бұрын
Superb
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@nicolasnicolas3889
@nicolasnicolas3889 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna build m one of these! Awesome! 🥰
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad this was helpful for you.
@nicolasnicolas3889
@nicolasnicolas3889 Жыл бұрын
@@dinosaurdogstudio Cool, just to say I'm kinda new to this production lark but liking a bit of lofi I wondered how and if could make the ambience, say ocean or rain et al, sound like it was coming though a window or from the end of a corridor and that the music part of the track was playing in the room and closer, as I say I'm new to this but as an experiment just to see what you could do and come up with,, I was wondering how to create different spaces within the mix as per above and I found your video, I thought to say, thanks buddy! Have a fun day! ;D
@Darksagan
@Darksagan Жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
@constantinranis
@constantinranis Жыл бұрын
That's a very interesting technique! Would the effect be the same if you set one reverb channel but send different amount of signal on it from the various tracks ?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
No. This would not be the same effect. The "closeness" of each bus is determined by the settings of each reverb - the predelay, "distance" and early/late reflection balance.
@dek10157
@dek10157 Жыл бұрын
Amazing tip appreciate you sharing! What would the room reverb use here be for general use? Which instruments would be bussed to it/where in soundstage
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! The room reverb here is used for any element that needs some extra "reverb wash" sound. For example if you want your lead guitar to have some obvious reverb effect without making it too different from the normal song's soundscape. Mostly I use this reverb when I create additional effects like delays to add some smoothness to them and keep them from being too distracting.
@MrKwodsonikpunk
@MrKwodsonikpunk 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant f**ing tutorial mate, sorry for the expletive, but I really wanted to emphasise my gratitude.
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 6 ай бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate this.
@kendallmasterssank369
@kendallmasterssank369 6 ай бұрын
This is real amazing. Can you talk more about the 4th reverb, the room?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 6 ай бұрын
The room is just used for additional "effect". If you want something that has more verb, but doesn't impact the perceived "closeness" - then you send more signal to the room.
@jrubymusic
@jrubymusic Жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation of this technique! One question: would there be any negative consequences to using the stock logic reverbs for the front/mid/back and then a more premium IR reverb for the room?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
because this technique is so subtle - there isn't any downside in my book. Also, the logic pro stock verb is so flexible, I can get exactly what I want out of it than say the lustrous plates by slate digital - it doesn't have all the functionality that this does to really play with the reverb like I need to. I will use more "premium" reverbs for the obvious effects in the mix rather than on the front/mid/back busses. And it'll save you some processing power as well using a native plugin for your DAW on the main busses. All that said, I do generally use the "ultra" setting on the ChromaVerb to get the most from it.
@jrubymusic
@jrubymusic Жыл бұрын
@@dinosaurdogstudio Yea I noticed other verbs lack the detailed controls, plus this video provides the perfect settings for the desired effect. Good to know about the ultra setting, and thanks for the info!
@lilikura
@lilikura Ай бұрын
This is great! Thanks for sharing... Subscribed! Btw, do you use any EQ and/or Compression on the four Reverbs?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Ай бұрын
The second stage of the reverb plugin is an EQ, which I do use pretty heavily. I generally don't use compression, as it can be dangerous at times in this application, but go for it if you want to experiment!
@lilikura
@lilikura Ай бұрын
@@dinosaurdogstudio thanks for the reply. Appreciate it 😊
@wale.a
@wale.a Жыл бұрын
FX and Transitions, usually have reverb embodied in them, do you still bus them to the 4-Stage Reverb or do you do it to only the Instruments?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Great question. I will usually incorporate delays and other effects into the "room" reverb to blend them in the mix, unless I'm going for an obvious reverb sound, like an epic cathedral or something, then I'll just put 10% or so to the room and most to my reverb effect.
@amenaza1119
@amenaza1119 Жыл бұрын
Can you use different types of reverb? Or has to be the same reverb the whole mix?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
I use other types of reverbs in other areas of the mix. This should almost be inaudible, and I like using the same one because it provides some cohesiveness and makes everything sound more naturally "together" in the same space as if you're experiencing the song live. There are no hard and fast rules here though, so feel free to experiment.
@BrotherCalebMusic
@BrotherCalebMusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, man! I just Subbed - what is that song about? God Bless you! _Caleb
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Hey man, thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed the video! This is actually a cover song called "Springtime" originally performed by Chris Renzema. This version is not yet released, but should be in January or February in its final iteration.
@AforismiDAutoreAD
@AforismiDAutoreAD Жыл бұрын
In the others Reverb plugin, what would the "distance" parameter correspond to?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
"Distance" controls the early and late-reflection balance. Some reverbs don't let you adjust this directly (but really depends on the plugin). The 2 balances that are critical to making something sound close/far is "Direct sound" to "early reflection" and "Early Reflection" to "Late Reflection". The bigger the first is to the second, the closer it will feel, and vice-versa for making it feel far. (Hopefully this makes sense?)
@AforismiDAutoreAD
@AforismiDAutoreAD Жыл бұрын
@@dinosaurdogstudio I don't think to understand very well
@gerardfabisch
@gerardfabisch 10 ай бұрын
FabFilter Pro-R has a distance parameter for natural balance between the amount of early to late reflections
@erkamau9629
@erkamau9629 10 ай бұрын
Could it be better using total decay accordingly with the bpm value of the song ?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 10 ай бұрын
I always do this anyway. I usually use a 1/4 decay to start. That said, this reverb is so subtle, that it isn't really that critical to time the decay to the song.
@mikaelzakrisson5514
@mikaelzakrisson5514 2 ай бұрын
Hi! Sorry for being late to the party. Great info in this video! 👍I am wondering about the Distance knob. None of my reverbs have a Distance knob (mostly using Cubase stock reverbs). Do you know how to calculate the distance without a Distance knob?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 2 ай бұрын
It'll be the relative volume difference between the direct sound, early reflections and late reflections. Less difference= farther, less difference = closer.
@mikaelzakrisson5514
@mikaelzakrisson5514 2 ай бұрын
@@dinosaurdogstudio Thankyou for clearing that up, ! I'll try it out in my DAW!
@stevebodner3729
@stevebodner3729 5 ай бұрын
slick
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@sfischer1001
@sfischer1001 2 ай бұрын
Are you adjusting sends on any individual instruments with this method?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 2 ай бұрын
No, I do not. I will when I'm using reverb as an effect, but not for this depth exercise.
@sfischer1001
@sfischer1001 2 ай бұрын
@@dinosaurdogstudio makes sense, thanks!
@bf2853
@bf2853 9 ай бұрын
how would you do the late/early reflections in valhalla vintageverb?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't use valhalla for this application - this is what I refer to as the "utility reverb" and I would use valhalla for more stylistic effects.
@bf2853
@bf2853 9 ай бұрын
@@dinosaurdogstudio my thing is the reverbs I use dont have both ER/LR knob and if they do it's just the early reflection knob they have. I mix in ableton so I'm not sure how this would translate to the native ableton reverb. What 3rd party reverb do you recommend then
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 9 ай бұрын
@@bf2853 Here are a couple options that would work with the way I show it in the video: - H-Reverb Hybrid Reverb (waves) - FabFilter Pro-R Reverb Plug-in (Use the "distance parameter - this adjusts the ER/LR balance") - Renaissance Reverb, also from waves (has a single fader for ER/LR balance, very similar to the logic pro stock reverb as in the video)
@bf2853
@bf2853 9 ай бұрын
@@dinosaurdogstudio thanks bro luckily I have 2 of these already, sorry for the questions but can you make a video detailing why and when to use a "utility reverbs" vs a "stylistic reverb" and how to differentiate between the 2? Sorry if it seems like I'm asking a lot
@zachpitt9249
@zachpitt9249 2 ай бұрын
How can i use delay with this technique?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 2 ай бұрын
I would use delay independent of this matrix. The matrix is purely designed to create depth, effects can be applied as normal outside of this. Unless I'm misunderstanding your question?
@beetledust97
@beetledust97 2 ай бұрын
Don't you have your early/late reflections reversed? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe objects further back in the room will have higher early reflections since they bounce off the wall sooner.
@beetledust97
@beetledust97 2 ай бұрын
I suppose the reflections are also dependent on the space you're in - long hallway will have more early reflections in a big space, than a large concert hall where it takes longer to reflect off the walls. But surely, if the question is how "close" something is, and you want to put a sound upfront, it's better to have late reflections - since the sound is further from the wall, right?
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 2 ай бұрын
@@beetledust97 refer to this video as I explain how this works: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNSBqZShvtyZnas.htmlsi=_XRZ4IJvVDlpwXzr
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Ай бұрын
Be careful to not confuse pre-delay (time between) and volume of the early reflections. You're right that the relative volume would be louder (but late reflections would also be louder) with objects that are farther away. The pre-delay is only time, which is correct (again, see the other comment for a full explanation)
@lk0707
@lk0707 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Btw. reverb buses should be eq'd further to get better separation.
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Excellent suggestion, thank you. These do have some EQ on them and damping which helps create additional separation, but feel free to have your own spin if you feel that's not enough.
@barr5173
@barr5173 Жыл бұрын
Well, you did make it sound more spacious, deeper and , interestingly, cleaner. But this song is kind of messy, in my noob opinion, I'd prefer to see how this works on few cleanly separated instruments, Steely Dan style. Oops, SD my fav band *blush*.
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! A lot of this material isn't the best - I'll admit. But it's really to show these techniques, not so much the material itself - although I can recognize that this can be distracting. I use this technique on almost all my mixes because it really does work on everything.
@ajlambe1340
@ajlambe1340 8 ай бұрын
Why work the speed of light at the beginning if you’re trying to show others your technique
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I assume people have some knowledge before I show the actual technique that is unique. This is equally showing people that this works as much as how to do the technique itself. It's a hard balance between not boring people and still helping people.
@BaxorUpGreat
@BaxorUpGreat 9 ай бұрын
𐰪𐰯𐰿𐱁😮
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@dr.vojislavhadzimilic3649
@dr.vojislavhadzimilic3649 10 ай бұрын
reverb on kick and bass NO!
@dinosaurdogstudio
@dinosaurdogstudio 10 ай бұрын
I agree - don't be adding a plate with a 3 second delay!! It's only early reflection reverb. It's basically inaudible in the mix. In a live setting (aka, real life) does reverb not attach to low-end instruments? It's natural for us to hear that reverb of the room. Even in a mix room, there is subtle reverb that is incredibly pleasing to the ear - yes, even on kick and bass.
@5ammy13
@5ammy13 5 ай бұрын
I concur. Having some reverb to glue the sounds is a great thing to do. Just Early Reflections to blend the sounds.
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