How to Diagnose a Honda Rincon 650 / 680 ATV Oil Pump. Transmission slipping or shifting problem

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D RJ

D RJ

3 жыл бұрын

How to Diagnose Transmission Problems with Honda Rincon ATV. Transmission slipping, or not shifting
This is how to diagnose transmission issues with rincon atvs
This video involves looking at the torque converter and Oil Pump.
also applies to honda pioneer 700 and big red
Slipping , jerking.
Slipping when cold. slipping when warm

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@megasheepshagger
@megasheepshagger 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you sir.
@andrewshipp2739
@andrewshipp2739 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Thanks
@danielharris3864
@danielharris3864 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video it really helped mine is slipping when cold and fine when hot but having trouble finding the right o rings tried the link you posted a wile back but it won’t pull up anymore if you know where I can find them let me know thanks again
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 2 жыл бұрын
www.partzilla.com/catalog/honda/atv/2006/trx680fa-a-fourtrax-rincon/oil-pump
@littlecc7447
@littlecc7447 Жыл бұрын
Ive got a 07 rincon and its slipping in 3rd gear or thats what i think. I can throttle it and eventually hit top speed but it doesn't pull the same as 1st and 2nd. Do i have clutch problems? Another problem i have is when its cold weather it doesnt want to pull at all until it warms up but ive never taking the motor apart but this did start a while after i buried it in a water hole and had to drain the motor oil. Any advice on what to try or do would be nice. Thanks in advance!
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 8 ай бұрын
could be clutch issues. could just need new oil. replace with synthetic wet clutch motorcycle oil and fill to proper level. let it idle and warm up to operating level on level ground and fill to proper level
@RobertsBulgaria
@RobertsBulgaria 10 ай бұрын
You can also get transmission slipping if you overfill the oil level. I understand that this also requires stripping down the engine to clean the excess oil off the clutch?
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 8 ай бұрын
Not usually. just draining the oil to the proper level should be fine
@handymanrobroy5846
@handymanrobroy5846 9 ай бұрын
I need advise mine makes a knocking noise in drive but not in reverse and increases with speed also the bike is very slow only about 25mph and it struggles on steep inclines as if im in second
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 8 ай бұрын
could be cv axles popping that your hearing. bike is very slow issue could be a few things. is it a 650 or 680?
@ckieffner45
@ckieffner45 Жыл бұрын
Hey I have a 2006 680 rincon and it’s won’t move when sitting like it’s slipping, but if you give it a push it will take off, any ideas? Adjustments?
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired Жыл бұрын
sounds like it has a pressure issue. Whats the condition of the engine oil ? Is it low?
@landon6128
@landon6128 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I sent you another text
@mundogasrd1656
@mundogasrd1656 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a Honda Rincon 650 and sometimes it doesn't want to move forward, I accelerate and it doesn't move backwards or forwards, but sometimes it grips but it returns to the same thing as it will be
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 8 ай бұрын
i would start with a oil change with synthetic wetclutch oil. follow the manual to get the correct fill level
@TheSaskachewan1
@TheSaskachewan1 2 жыл бұрын
My 05 680 grinds when putting it in drive and grinds so bad that I can't get it into reverse. I'm trying to explore all options before stripping it down. It sounds like like if you are trying to jam a standard transmission in gear without using the clutch.
@heathabshire8929
@heathabshire8929 2 жыл бұрын
Try turning your idle down before you tear into it
@TheSaskachewan1
@TheSaskachewan1 2 жыл бұрын
@@heathabshire8929 kzfaq.info-GWfUzglt4Y?feature=share does this sound like a high idle? If so do you know how to adjust it?
@gatacajm
@gatacajm 2 жыл бұрын
Buy the correct puller for the torque converter instead of the possibility of damaging it. $40 insurance policy. I would also change the oil pump chain, low gear/reverse clutch friction discs/orings, and pressure relief while in that far
@chessecake383
@chessecake383 Жыл бұрын
Mine has trouble shifting when its hot and I have to let it idle down to shift it into drive
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired Жыл бұрын
does it go thru gear 1,2 and 3 ok?
@andrewd7795
@andrewd7795 Жыл бұрын
I have a pioneer 700 that has always slipped when cold. But now it has about 9,000 miles and it shifts fine when warm except when accelerating hard, then it refuses to upshift, it just bounces off the rev limiter. If I left off of the gas some it will upshift. Any ideas? Thanks
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired Жыл бұрын
Many times the rubber oring that goes around the oil pump was crushed during assemply of the front case from factory. That oring failure will cause erratic shifting when cold and sometimes when it gets fully warm because of the oil thinning out. . with 9000 miles I would replace o-rings and also the oil pump and chain guides and oil chain because im almost positive you have slack in the chain due to high miles. Since your going to do that Id do a camshaft replacement and piston and rings also.
@andrewd7795
@andrewd7795 Жыл бұрын
@@ElectronicsWired Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it.
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired Жыл бұрын
@@andrewd7795 doing the above maintenance will give you another 9000 miles im sure.
@Bikelifejr
@Bikelifejr Жыл бұрын
What does it mean when you put it in gear and hit the gas and it does not move
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired Жыл бұрын
Could be several things. What does the gear selector show? Is your linkage adjusted ? How much oil is in the engine ?? How old is the oil ? Do you hear it click when you shift ??
@adampowerhouski9191
@adampowerhouski9191 2 жыл бұрын
On my 2016 Honda Rubicon 500 oil chain fall off and engine is cooked. Only 1900km!!!
@dannycleaveland1070
@dannycleaveland1070 2 жыл бұрын
I write this before I watched the vid. I have a good one for you. New seals, new water pump, and I still have water, pouring into the oil. The temp light came on so I decided to find and fix. Thought gaskets at first. I have had the valve head off four times w/out replacing them so it seemed like a solid thought. Still ran thru, emptying the gallon of water onto the ground in seconds. So, water pump replacement time. $350.00 smackolaas later. Not the pump. The day after I noticed the problem. Water pump got stiff and the notched piece where it connected to the motor shaft where missing. I am not positive that Is the monkey wrench, I am thinking one of chunks of hardened steel got between the crank shaft and the case in an attempted escape. I have spent a week thinking of the best way to do the job put forth. Then I searched the answer, and here is where you come in my friend. And All I wanted to find is how to remove the front drive shaft. Do you hate crap built to break as much as this 62 year old does? Where I ride "south east Utah" if it breaks out there the returning of your shoes to the bed side may never happen again. On the good side, My rinny always brought me back. 8000 miles in the seat, over some of the nastiest and unforgiving trails in the world. and with luck many more. I think I might probably perhaps make a video. Wow, I must be bored. Time to watch...
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 2 жыл бұрын
If it's still getting water in oil. I would get a new head and gasket. Flush radiator. Flush oil hoses also . Flush oil a few times. Let it idle for 40 minutes to warm up the oil. Then drain.then repeat .
@dannycleaveland1070
@dannycleaveland1070 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectronicsWired I did replace the head, a intake valve stuck open as I pulled up to a stop after a 60 mile ride.It now has new gaskets."top end" I started the job this morning and here what I found. When I add water it leaks as a hose, however, when I removed the intake hose from the front of the head it was full of water. that whispers to me that Just one water port is affected and it is leaking directly into the oil pan.A friend is bring his cell phone snake camera and I am hoping I am wrong. Question: The new water pump was twice as hard to turn as the old one.Are they all made to be that stiff or did I get a lemon?
@dannycleaveland1070
@dannycleaveland1070 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectronicsWired And thanks for the words of advice. Not many would take the time. Kudos :)
@dannycleaveland1070
@dannycleaveland1070 2 жыл бұрын
It was a cracked valve head. I had a replacement, now I just need gas to see if it will start and run. :)
@boner69699269
@boner69699269 3 жыл бұрын
so I have a 2007 Rincon 680 it grinds in reverse fwd. no problem dealer says let it warms up should be fine but it doesn't grind when it is brought to the dealer
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 3 жыл бұрын
Grinding has nothing to do with letting it warm up. Warming up is allowing the oil which is also trans fluid to warm up. Either you linkage needs adjustment or it's not fully engaging into reverse which means your fork could be broken. Statt with linkage first
@boner69699269
@boner69699269 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElectronicsWired They have adjusted the linkage several differ times I have even shown them the video what it was doing but couldn't fig out could it be the oil they are using some off brand type in the past I used amsoil synthetic??
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 3 жыл бұрын
@@boner69699269 as long as its 10w 30 or 10w 40 wet clutch type oil it's fine. The grinding is a gear issue. Not a fluid pressure issue. Can you explain Is it grinding when you try to put it in gear? And once you shift and re shift it into gear then its fine.. or is it grinding when you drive??
@JohnLee-ng4lv
@JohnLee-ng4lv 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElectronicsWired so once I go fwd. then rev at times it will work just great other time I would have to shift it fast for it to work better it doesn't do it all the time unless its hot sometimes when cold
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired Жыл бұрын
@@JohnLee-ng4lv you might need to adjust your idle down some
@superb8024
@superb8024 8 ай бұрын
Could it have slipping problems if the oil level is too low?
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 8 ай бұрын
Yes it can. If it is too low then the oil pump is unable to produce enough pressure for the torque convertor
@superb8024
@superb8024 8 ай бұрын
@@ElectronicsWired thanks alot. Im thinking on buying one for 1500€, but it has 18k kilometers and 1k hours, I think thats alot. The owner has it from new and said the engine was never touched inside
@jasongodin7165
@jasongodin7165 3 күн бұрын
My friend has a 680 that will not ingage when starting up even in summer, Pump? I wanted to buy a new honda and a mechanic frig this id only buy the 500cc with gears fuck the full lock
@timothysarnecky491
@timothysarnecky491 2 жыл бұрын
anyone got a part number for these o rings
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 2 жыл бұрын
www.bikebandit.com/oem-parts/2003-honda-fourtrax-rincon-650-trx650fa-oil-pump/o/m151252sch322761
@masonries4139
@masonries4139 Жыл бұрын
And your also not supposed to use synthetic oil or else it will wreck the engine and cause the trans to slip because the oil is not the right viscosity so you have to use a mineral blend oil meant only for atvs or use honda atv oil because the oil oils the engine and transmission and clutches at the same time
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired Жыл бұрын
If you use a synthetic wet clutch oil its fine
@michaelclark277
@michaelclark277 Жыл бұрын
Mine won't shift at all .
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired Жыл бұрын
Are you referring to shifting from nuetral, reverse and drive. or it wont shift gear 1, 2, 3?
@freespirit9806
@freespirit9806 3 жыл бұрын
My transmission grinds
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 3 жыл бұрын
When is it grinding? when it goes into gear? when you accelerate?
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 3 жыл бұрын
did you figure out the grinding?
@freespirit9806
@freespirit9806 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElectronicsWired I sold it.
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 3 жыл бұрын
@@freespirit9806 lol. Even better.
@leonsmith5322
@leonsmith5322 2 жыл бұрын
05 Rincon making noises in front of the engine
@ElectronicsWired
@ElectronicsWired 2 жыл бұрын
describe the noises?
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