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The hard part about charge characters isn't having charge in neutral. It's building charge during combos while inputting other moves. I feel like no one ever acknowledges this when addressing charge character difficulty

For all the training mode meters and information, i'm a little surprised they didn't include a "charge meter" like they did for the buffer/recovery frames of your character. The longer charge window of SF is definitely a little harder to get used than other games

A technique which is necessary for some Guile combos is inputting forward, then downbback + punch - this throws out an imperfect sonic boom but enables you to start charging a few frames earlier for links such as OD Boom > FlashKick

My problem with charge characters is I never know how long to hold a charge. That's why I think new players find them hard.

i think the problem a lot of people do have with charge characters is that they usually over rely on special moves and therefore feel compelled to "always be charging" with charge characters and that leaves them very predictable in their movement and in their playstyle, so they often don't walk forward or play footsies as well as they could be and tend to just walk forward a tiny bit and sit and charge and inch their way forward. but with that most people forget the fact charge characters tend to have really good normal moves for this reason, and also the other thing is charging during other moves like during a jump or during a dash or during an attack or combo. so my advice would be to spam charge specials in training mode to get a feel for the timing and then forget about them and just try to incorporate them during other moves, for example when you're blocking you're charging naturally and you can take that as an advantage to buffer it in with an attack. like don't just sit on a charge, take advantage of the fact that you get a charge from doing certain actions that you want to do but use them wisely and they are not always necessary. it was actually charge characters that made me have to learn how to use normals and footsies because it forced me to learn how to take advantage of normals and the neutral with just normal attacks, how to pressure with a plus on block attack, how to whiff punish, how to poke and how to punish and so on. honestly the game opens up significantly if you start to take into account everything else that exists in the game for you to take advantage of aside from special moves.

Your head’s hitbox is looking insane bro. Great tips btw lol. I’m interested in playing Honda and Dee Jay in this game but am having some trouble consistently pulling off some of the charge inputs, so I’m really happy to see someone trying to help out charge noobs like me!

There are a couple reasons charge characters are harder for newer players. 1. They don't have the habit of charging constantly yet so they have access to those moves less frequently as a result 2. They don't know the charge time for each move yet and so they can't execute them quickly and consistently (perfect charge inputs are hard) 3. It's hard to use charge moves during combos especially if they involve doing moves that you can't do while charging. So I play Chun and there's a combo I do where I have to hit a standing Mp into crouching MP into Spinning bird kick (SBK is an down-up charge move) and I have to start charging down while doing the standing Mp otherwise I won't have enough charge time for the SBK. 4. Charge moves take priority over other moves so if you have the charge and you intend to do another move, once the game detects the motion it will do the charge move. This happens when I try to walk forward and punch on Chun when I was charging back before. (regular characters don't have back forward inputs) 5. They simply take more time to execute as instead of relying on your own speed you're now required to hold down for at least 30 frames depending on the move. It's hard to learn and do all this while also fighting an opponent and dealing with their options if you're not already really comfortable with the game 6. The input type/ controller you're using may influence the difficulty, precision and speed in learning these characters depends on the individual and most people just don't get to try out different input types (especially console players)

I like how Guile looks, but him being a charge character, I didn't wanna try him. Because of your video, I'm finally going to try him. Thank you.

This is actually insanely helpful for someone who just picked up the game! Thank you for wording everything very simply haha I'm still learning, and hopefully this'll help my Chun-Li!

One of Blanka's trials is excellent for learning how to move and charge as well as how to charge buffer. You have to press forward+HP as a punish counter, it then wants you to catch the crumple state with an EX Blanka ball, so you have to start charging as soon as you press forward+HP to get the charge in time. You then go through the opponent but now it wants you to air Blanka ball back the other way to finish. To do it you have to press F+HP (start charging), EX Blanka Ball hold the forward direction from the EX ball and move to up+back to jump back, hit air MP then cancel into H air Blanka Ball back the direction you started. This is a completely viable punish in SF6 and if you can do it, congratulations, you know how to charge buffer.

Learning to Charge with Chun in this game was hard at first but Im definitely way better at it now. Still a ways to go but I can at least do my mini combos into spinning bird kick or throw fireball in neutral and anti air when baiting. She specifically has access to her charge moves out of some of her stance follow ups *without* charging which adds some variety to her combos and pressure

The trickiest thing for me when learning charge characters that no one mentions is how long holding the button "for a little bit" is. When I first started playing May back in Xrd I kept letting go early or letting go way too late. No one, not even the game, tells you how long to hold the button. Even now like 10 years on, its tricky for me because different games and characters have different charge timings and the movelist doesn't tell you.

another tip i'd like to throw in is making down back a part of your charge inputs. every time i do a charge move i always press down back afterwards just in case i need to do another one quickly. i don't even think about it it's just instinctual but it will help your gameplay alot.

It seems a little in the weeds but it’d be sick for in-game resources to share this info too Zangief’s full circle motions are a good example of something like this- the point of the full circle/ double full circle isn’t to do it raw- you’ll probably end up jumping. You need to land something with a pretty big recovery like a drive impact or punish counter heavy so you can buffer the inputs during your recovery. Earn the recovery frames so you can input your big damage moves :) Cool vid

This video came out at the perfect time. I wanted to play Dee Jay but was struggling with charge moves, hopefully this can switch up my mentality

Thanks so much as I've never been able to wrap my head around charge characters but now it finally makes sense

Love the content! Can you do a similar breakdown of characters who have unusual command grabs? For instance, Sub-Zero and Poison Ivy from Injustice 2 both have the same command grab of down, back, forward input. I've always had trouble with that and if you could make a video on that, I would be most grateful. Thanks again for the wonderful content.

Spaiming totaugeki really helped me to learn and appreciate charges. Having fun with Guile and Honda rn. Thanks, mr. Dolphin!

I love that you have a hitbox in your cam view

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I have always followed ABC, "Always Be Charging". Once you wire your brain to start the charge immediately after a move and optimal times to use this you can always be ready to use one. Any move that involves a back motion allows you to keep the charge. Think about your character and how to charge during or after a move as fast as possible. Hit a target combo, great as soon as the first hit lands start charging. For example jump in and as soon as you leave the ground hold down and back. Guile for example would be ready for a Boom or Flash Kick shortly after landing. If your jump in hits you are ready for a charge move combo after like crMp, crMP, Flash Kick or sMP, crMP, Sonic Boom. With practice the clock in your head just knows when charges are ready. I find it harder now to throw regular Sonic Booms as most are Perfect Booms from years of practice.

Bro really said 🔳

This video helped a lot my dude ty

thank you sm for this explanation, i was having a hard time understanding until now

Thanks a lot for the video I come from smash bros, playing SF for the very first time and i couldn't figure out how to charge directions like the tutorial haha

Thanks for the video, i understand the charge characters better now !

Good video I needed this as I'm playing Deejay and Guile.

Bro this mans is the goat for these vids

I mean this is the most positive way possible; you look like you're about to be the lead villain in a Die Hard film. Dig the beard keep that shit frfr

This was helpful for me. I was trying out chun li for the first time and i was struggling to do her Kikoken move.

Thank you so much for this LK!

Can you give an explanation on how to truly play a charge character including other fighting games in terms of positioning?

This was very helpful. And also helped me realize I genuinely hate playing this character type.

holy sht you saved my gameplay with chun-li THANK YOU!

You hit the nail on the head with me. I always liked chun, however I never played her because I am so afraid of her charge mechanics...

The hardest thing for me when it comes to charge characters is doing the forward or up input at basically the same time as the button input. I'm just really bad at it, and I'm probably not the only one: either I take too long between the charge and the button press, or I press one of the two buttons too soon. I don't have the same problem with command normals or fireballs/DP motions. I've been getting used to it recently by playing Chun Li, but since I hardly ever play charge characters, it's like learning to do fireball inputs all over again.

I think Guile is actually a good beginner character because charging back/down back means you are always blocking and just throw booms at distance, flash kick jump ins. Then you use his good normal tools to improve on that basic foundation.

After years of pain, Street fighter finally has simple control's.

Bruv thanks for this vid!!!!

Really nice tutorial! Lord knight, did you notice that the charge mechanics works different for street fighter 6 compared to sv 5? For example, when you're charging left or down, in prior street fighter games you could keep holding the charge and then tap right or up to do the special move WITHOUT letting go of the charge left/down [down back]. This seems to have been removed in sf 6??

Thank you I don't know why I didn't think of that now I can zone as guile without getting stuck in the corner

i think my issue stems from pad.. every time i try to get forward+button i end up grazing the up or down button and getting a jump or crouch and the fireball doesn’t count. i’ve been trying to play deejay and chun-li but the only way i’ve been able to get the input on pad is releasing the dpad for a fraction of a second and pressing forward really quick. which is sort’ve working slightly more often than just going from back to forward

I loved this video. It's hard to find information on this game that actually makes sense to a beginner. Even videos labeled "beginner guide" are way too advanced.

Do you have tips for Honda's lvl 2 lol? I have never had to do that input and I'm finding hard to do it fast? Or know some combos that I can use to land it consistently. Only thing I've gotten it from is by doing 2 OD slaps and finishing with the lvl 2.

As a French speaker I just wanna say nice pronunciation on the Manon specials. Ty for the video as well

As an ex cammy who really wanted to try out Honda this was really helpful

I just started playing e Honda on modern, I have a few combos down but charge inputs always are hard for me. Thx for the video

Are charge inputs easier with a stick? I feel like on controller im doing the input but it sometimes doesnt go off?

sometimes hold back diagonal down and then choses to hit up for fowards to they cant guess what I'm charging

I learned charge characters first as a kid. I thought it was easier than motion because of its simpler input 😅

I find the half circle is easier because its a strait line just following the curve of the joystick, you don't even need to look or count seconds. no accidental jumping.

LK good to see you putting out SF6 content. I know it's not your main game.

I know you are supposed to hold it but how do you get the second input to not mess up? Ugh this is really frustrating.

My issue is trying to do charge ults where I need to go back and forward several times. Doing this on dpad feels impossible in the middle of a fight.

How do you do two charge moves. For example MB sonic boom, into flash kick. Because of the timing it has to be quick, but I feel as soon as I do the MB sonicboom I go back to db, but the flash kick doesn't comeout 😢

as a Tekken bozo and now addicted to SF6 i didn't know that. Thank you

what about charge partitioning, you can charge, walk forward then still do headbutt , assuming you know how to break the charge timing up. Its a common thing to do in 3rd strike.

hey lordknight, what got you into playing ehonda?

Buffer while blocking, when possible. What made a Kat main pick the man with plan, E. Honda?

Thanks man. I'm having trouble.

Charge stuff feels so weird cause it seems like you have to hold it for so long that i wonder how to even use those moves in a combo granted im a complete beginner but charge characters are something i avoid like the plague cause i cannot wrap my head around the timing so quarter circles actually seems easier for me

I’m glad LK is showing his hurtboxes, that kind of info is hard to come by

I have a problem with big band in skullgirls, i cant do S.HK into Take The A Train HK

First experience with charging was super turbo which was an awful time. Charing took like 3 seconds and then the game would lag at random times and eat your input

My problems with charge characters is that the first one I ever tried playing was vatista and I've never touched them again since

imo everyone should try a charge character at least once the muscle memory they ingrain into your is generally useful on honestly all characters but it may also be the reason i dislike the down forward + button for command normals it just doesn't feel right lol

I just saw you in Wolfies lates video lmao❤

I use a ps pad, but to be honest ive been struggling with the Guile loops for very very long. Been trying to learn how to charge faster but ive given up. Im still a Guile main though

Mans had to flex his French real quick. I’m not mad 👏

Can you make a video on how to charge/store charge.

Charge is hard for me, i miss the input a lot and i don't mean that i don't charge long enough it's that i do the charge motion and press the button too late, there is no buffer. Motion inputs on the other hand have buffer and are so easy to do that i do them on accident.

The mere enigma that is “doing a charge move while moving forward”

weird. i used the down+back method in GGST, but I was trying it with Honda in SF6 and i couldnt get it to work

Bro got his irl hurt box toggled on. Punished LK

Are you recording on a security camera?

I already know because of the last time u made this vid when strive dropped

charge moves are easy, esp since i switched to leaverless...what i need now is the Perfect Partition...im losing games as deejay cause im hitting my first aircutter, but then am either too slow on the second one to keep the pressure or im just whiffing MP/HP cause im too fast and get jumped in on

That's what I usually do. But I always feel like I should memorize the timing. Let's say no back for 3 seconds.

Can you help people figure out the timing of combos in this game? I feel like this is the hardest fighting game to string together things. Stringing, buffering, timing, I feel like it’s all over the place

I had a fear of charge characters for a long time. Played the SF6 beta and it quickly went away lol

Lk got us squared up😂

Nice

I’m glad you didn’t bring up charge partitioning. Because charge partitioning can go fuck itself. Shoutout to the people who learn it though. The characters who utilize it the most are most likely the best characters in the game.

I always knew they’d keep LK boxed in the simulation 😔

Are there no games which give you a visual indicator of when a move is charged, like by having the character flash or have lightning crackle around them or something when a charge move is ready? Obviously this would give your opponent an advantage since they'd be able to see when you have charge too, but it could be a training mode option only or it could be something you could toggle in an options menu, so new players would be able to play with the visual aid at the cost of their opponent being able to see it too, and then when they get a feel for how long they need to charge they could turn it off to hide that information from the opponent.

E. Honda went from milquetoast to really cool in SFV to even cooler in SF6

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how many frames do you need to charge in sf6?

I can’t even do the back forwards special with guile I think I am mentally disabled and it’s making me not like the game because it won’t let me do these inputs

(Trying)Linking 46 mp(swift thrust)-46p(kikoken) immediately pissed me off i hate charge inputs

i genuinely feel like this isnt applicable for chun li in 6. i can do dee jay's charged moves with little issue but chun lis charged moves just do not come out

LK just casually pronouncing Manon's moves while i struggle over here

The reason I don't like charge characters is because it feels like you can't just use your specials on demand and they make me feel like I can't walk forward.

To new people, you literally have to charge at all times so you can just throw that special move if neeses. This also explains why most charge characters tend to be passive

Chun Lin looks fun to play but I feel like I’m gonna break my controller by doing a simple Kikoen 😂

E. Honda is an onee-san confirmed.

Charges in combos are easy. It's controlling space and having access to a charge in neutral that sucks for me. Like, if I'm fullscreen with May or Axl, do i start a charge or do i take some real estate back? At that point, it's like measuring your charge moves or normals vs your opponents options and i think thats too much thinking mid match for a typical player. With experience and match up knowledge, sure the choice will come faster and easier but someone playing a shoto doesn't even start with that mental stack since their fireball/DP feedback is instant.

Chargies rise up