How To Edit Poems

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Hello, my name's Jen. I'm an award-winning poet and short story writer. My debut short story collection 'The Beginning of the World in the Middle of the Night' is published by Two Roads, and my children's books, 'Franklin's Flying Bookshop’ and ‘Franklin and Luna Go To The Moon’ are published by Thames and Hudson. I'm also the author of the Sunday Times bestselling 'Weird Things Customers Say in Bookshops' series, 'The Bookshop Book' and 'The Hungry Ghost Festival.'
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@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Evening, folks! I hope you find this interesting. xx PS I caught the 'one other' error, don't worry, I've changed that to 'one another.'

@nicoleisheretolearn 5 жыл бұрын

This is so insightful! Not just for writing/formatting poetry, but also for "reading between the lines" as it were haha. I don't at all feel confident in my reading of poetry and often feel like it's all just going over my head and I'm missing super obvious, important things so it was great to get a little narrated peek at this part of the process. I'm glad you decided to bring this conversation to KZfaq :) xx

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Nicole! xx

@josephpetrocelli3930 10 ай бұрын

Thank you Jen. I learned from your ramblings this evening. Thank you.

@KayAmpersand 5 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this, Jen. Thank you for sharing your process! I have already pre-ordered the book and very much looking forward to reading it.

@karendale9926 5 жыл бұрын

Yep! Your choices are spot on and helpful.

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Karen, I'm glad you enjoyed the video xx

@a.f.m.4134 Жыл бұрын

such a useful video, thank you for sharing a bit about your process Jen!

@quirkydee45 5 жыл бұрын

This is such a fascinating peek at your process. Thanks for sharing it.

@lindacarson5429 5 жыл бұрын

Really interesting insight. You are impressively decisive about the changes!

@rachelandersen4211 2 жыл бұрын

Totally loved this! Geeking out hard core! Thank you!

@doesitmatter13 5 жыл бұрын

great video! Looking forward to reading the whole book, loving it so far x

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you xx

@eddheathman9652 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing us this. This is such a treat!

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Edd, it was fun to talk about. xx

@natassa9297 5 жыл бұрын

This was so interesting to watch! I know you probably don't have time to do things like these, but I'd love another video where you go through old (unpublished) pieces of yours and edit them to show they would look if you'd written them now, since writers keep developing and styles change

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting idea! x

@paulwinchell6904 5 жыл бұрын

Intersting never actually thought about the negative space in a poetry collection. PS Katies proofs make me want the book even more. And your reading make me want the Girl Aquarium. Must pay rent first. Books are a wonderful addiction.

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Always fun to get her illustrations through. Hope you're having a good week, Paul. xx

@coal2k 5 жыл бұрын

So interesting, Jen, and great to get an insight into your process. Can't wait to read the collection in its entirety!

@aprilgarcia954 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I always enjoy watching editorial videos such as this because 1) I enjoy seeing if the author will make changes the way I would (like where you mentioned in the first poem a lot of people would be tempted to put the line break at "and" and I totally wouldn't have, and 2) in a video such as yours you give so much explanation as to why you create your breaks the way you do and the effects it creates. It's very helpful to have that inner monologue in my mind when I do my own editing.

@chasityd6168 5 жыл бұрын

I really loved this. I never would have given thought to the spacing and line breaks in poetry. But you're right that it does affect the tone and how the reader experiences the words. I feel like I learned a lot from this video. I am taking a poetry and drama class this semester at my college and I am very excited. I would love to see you do more like these! Thank you for the great video!

@rickhummel9317 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thanks Jen!

@michellewdcosta 5 жыл бұрын

Totally loved this. Thank you so much for this. Never realised the line breaks would change in the proofs. After spending days deciding on a line break! This happens!

@thevintagepoet 3 жыл бұрын

This is wonderful

@kathrynrossati-barron6351 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this! I'm currently waiting on proofs for my own poetry collection, so I imagine I'll soon be doing the same. It was interesting to listen to the reasoning behind your decisions, and in fact you broke the lines in the exact places I would have done. I love seeing behind the scenes videos about publishing and editing, and I'm very much looking forward to reading The Girl Aquarium (I've already pre-ordered it!).

@pepperminstix7 5 жыл бұрын

That was interesting! Looking forward to your book release! 👍

@MatthewSciarappa 5 жыл бұрын

I love love LOVED this. It made me want to write poetry myself. The world doesn’t need that content though, so will wait patiently for your collection 🙂

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Are you sure the world doesn't need it? I'm not so sure! x

@Larissa_KD 5 жыл бұрын

I keep forgetting that I pre-ordered it, and every time you mention it I get really happy that I did! 😄

@henryyhenryy 5 жыл бұрын

Editing poetry like this is the stuff I 👏🏻live 👏🏻for 👏🏻💕

@MaryAmongStories 5 жыл бұрын

this is amazing 😍

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

@karenbethstrovas9135 5 жыл бұрын

Good discussion. You mentioned the tiny pause that happens at the ends of lines even when there is no punctuation. I have talked to my students about this, calling it an "eye pause." We often can't help landing on these words with our eyes even when there's clear enjambment to propel us forward. Big choices you have made!

@dob1997 4 жыл бұрын

this was seriously useful and interesting thankyou!!

@jenvcampbell 4 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome! x

@poeticwanderings7599 5 жыл бұрын

Really loved this and I appreciate all your poetry videos. I feel like there aren't enough of them on youtube. This helped me think about my own poems and changes I can make. I can't wait to read your collection when it comes out. I'll have to pre-order. P.S. I got really excited when I guessed correctly that you would put the line break after 'vomit.' :)

@R.P.B1982 5 жыл бұрын

I loved your plant view.

@charmaineandrews5435 Жыл бұрын

Thank you🎉

@ornleifs 5 жыл бұрын

I'm more of a story person than a poem person but I found this so interesting. The details that goes into how to mold a text is something that one hardly ever thinks about but it's obvious that this is so important.

@MsMoem 5 жыл бұрын

An interesting look at formatting'! Thanks! :-)

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. xx

@MsMoem 5 жыл бұрын

@@jenvcampbell :-) xx

@marren573 5 жыл бұрын

"Like you can bottle karma and shower in in. Screw it." 😮 I am getting the Girl Aquarium, I am getting it....

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Hurray! xx

@marren573 5 жыл бұрын

@@jenvcampbell I pre-ordered. This will be my first book by you, after watching you for so long.

@spangled_soul 5 жыл бұрын

Hey, I am a new subscriber! There's some really interesting things to play with and think about here. I did however anticipate that this video would be more tutorial like and also more general (instead of it being focused on mostly line-breaks and spacing in poems). I myself wanted to learn more about reworking first drafts, concentrating more on the writing itself. I hope you do another poetry editing vid which incorporates that! Thanks

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Salma, this was just a behind the scenes video. If you want a more in depth look at poetry, take a look at my writing workshops www.jen-campbell.co.uk/writing-workshops

@stellieford6183 3 жыл бұрын

I have so many short books of poems I've been wanting to make a collection. Sadly I only found a few amateur enthusiasts on FB thank God I stumbled on your book (about bookshops) and you on KZfaq hope returns!

@sjsomersart4050 5 жыл бұрын

Hey lady - maybe a photoshop/digital arty person could organise your texts on page layouts to get the reading flow perfectly set out as it would be approached like a piece of graphic art instead? not sure if that helps but they will be used to sizing images etc, (excuse if that sounds really patronising & obvious) just is incase it hadn't been suggested before... if you find you're compromising how something reads in a way that hurts you too much to tolerate haha

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

No, thank you. This a process I am used to and publishing houses have their own digital teams who do the typesetting, who are very familiar with how this process works.

@artinthechurchmeraolive1098 Жыл бұрын

Subscribed 🎉

@PancakeTutu 5 жыл бұрын

Wow, I'm definitely preordering "The Girl Aquarium"! Each new video makes me more excited about it. And I also liked the "swimming" part in a new line. It seemed to make it visually float/swim between the lines, which added a nice touch. Just my two cents... ;) x

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's why I kept it there, like it/she is treading water :) x

@PancakeTutu 5 жыл бұрын

@@jenvcampbell Oops, you even said so in the video... I was so taken in by the poem that I missed hearing it 😳😂 (But that's a good sign, isn't it?)

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

It is :) and thank you. xx

@lizziepilates 5 жыл бұрын

It’s the “one other” instead of “one another” in the first poem that bothers me. Thanks for sharing! It’s great to hear how you think about editing.

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

I’ve caught that, too, don’t worry :)

@SunriseFireberry 5 жыл бұрын

Don't know much re poetry. However, utube now has poetrytube. What you think of that I'm not sure but maybe it'll boost my interest & savvy re that form of writing.

@erazered 5 жыл бұрын

Very interesting. It never occurred to me that Poems need to be edited for the printed page.

@jenvcampbell 5 жыл бұрын

Yup! I've seen collections do interesting things to combat this; some Faber books print longer poems landscape so that everything fits. xx

@michellewdcosta 5 жыл бұрын

@@jenvcampbell can you show us one example?

@tanjenaislam4635 Жыл бұрын

love you baby i am stuck with my poems and cant find the way!

@ShalomDove 5 жыл бұрын

“Rouge Lines” would be an excellent title for a poetry collection. Just saying 😜

@nole8146 4 жыл бұрын

This is probably the most generic and superficial question, but as someone who wants to write, is it worth it? Not just the money but just creating something and hoping for the best?

@stellieford6183 3 жыл бұрын

My wife always tells me the creative process is its own reward (she's not wrong) but having piles of 'finished work and not sure what to do with it or about e is also annoyingly frustrating. Yeah

@coolbro6969 Жыл бұрын

yes it is.